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« Reply #125 on: August 03, 2010, 11:01:59 PM »
This is just my personal opinion, but if Pinstar doesn't care enough to update the rules when the EPs come out, then we should not feel bad for making judgement calls.  I don't see why you couldn't use Martial Arts for Tiberium.

Also, the moodlet manager has always been allowed in the legacy.  If you earned the points for it, you should be allowed to have it.


I completely agree, Pam.  Back in Sims 2 Pinstar would update his rule-set with each new expansion, but I think he just doesn't have the time or motivation to do it anymore.

I use all things from the expansions in my Legacy without restraint.  I see no reason not to.

And honestly, I think that photographs and sculptures of your sims instead of paintings should be fine too, although I realize it isn't part of the rules.  I think that if Pinstar were still around he'd have ok'd it a long time ago.  I'm thinking that the photos would have to be the large portrait type, not just the starting portrait that you can do with zero skill level, in order to fit with the spirit of the challenge.

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« Reply #126 on: August 04, 2010, 02:22:13 AM »
Pam has said she made a graveyard for her legacy family, but I'm running into some questions about that for anyone who has dealt with this. What seemed simple on the face of it isn't as simple as I thought. I should mention that I have no experience with sims' death and ghosts. I'm guessing you want them off your lot so they're not underfoot all the time. When you make your graveyard, can it be adjacent to your legacy lot, or does it need to be separated from it? How do you keep other sims from using it for their families? Now that we have Ambitions, I'm not sure how to do this. I can place a new lot, but I have to designate it as community/graveyard or residential. How big does it need to be? Urns are fine with me. I thought I might use the fairy-themed items as a change from the usual gothic stuff.

I'm also finding it difficult to paint from the still-life ability. The only time a sim will stay put long enough to frame him is by plunking him into a chair watching tv. Are there other ways that make it easier?
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« Reply #127 on: August 04, 2010, 02:42:40 AM »
I'm also finding it difficult to paint from the still-life ability. The only time a sim will stay put long enough to frame him is by plunking him into a chair watching tv. Are there other ways that make it easier?

Try turning off free will temporarily. That may get him to stand still.

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« Reply #128 on: August 04, 2010, 03:57:25 AM »
For my private cemetary, I use existing lots.  For my Legacy family, I used the lot across the street in Sunset Valley that has the pond and bridge.  I go into Edit Town and decorate it the way I want and designate it as a cemetary.  Then when there's a death, I just place the tombstone where I want it to be.  It won't be an urn because they only appear when the grave is indoors.  As soon as you put it someplace outdoors, it turns into a tombstone.  The size of it depends on whether the LTW was achieved and how many happiness points they earned in life.  The rest of the town doesn't use the private cemetary at all.  Everyone else goes to the mausoleum in the regular cemetary like they always have.  Living townies do come to visit a private cemetary, though.  They hang out at the fountain or sit on a bench and read a book.

One thing to note: Be sure to get all of your decorating done before you place any graves because if you go into Edit Town to change it afterward, the graves will all bounce back into your Family Inventory and you'll have to place them again.

For the still life portrait, get the camera up close and angled toward the easel before you make the selection to paint.  Then when your Sim comes to the easel, he'll be in camera range and you can just use "C" to capture it.

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« Reply #129 on: August 04, 2010, 04:31:40 AM »
Thanks for the fantastic help!
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« Reply #130 on: August 04, 2010, 04:45:15 AM »
My pleasure.  :)
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« Reply #131 on: August 04, 2010, 06:42:55 AM »
What am I supposed to do with all these people in my sims house, i've never gotten that far into legacy?  :D

My founders grown daughter has a romantic interest but there's like seven people already crammed into the house.



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« Reply #132 on: August 04, 2010, 07:49:10 AM »
Well you can kick them out, get them romantic interests then move them out, get them jobs, make them earn money. So basically anything you want with the spares.  :)
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Re: The Legacy Help, Tips, and Strategies Thread
« Reply #133 on: August 04, 2010, 08:28:12 AM »
If you're keeping track of the points, remember that when they leave the house, they won't be able to earn any more points.  Depending on how much money you have, you can buy a house for them or just kick them out and they'll take possession of an empty house without costing you anything.  A good way to get rid of spares is through marriage.  If the romantic interest is a Sim who lives there in town, you should get the option to move into that house after the wedding.  But if it's a maid or other NPC, it won't work because they don't have houses of their own.  I had a full house many times and sometimes just waited on death to take the oldest ones.
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« Reply #134 on: August 04, 2010, 02:36:25 PM »
I had a difficult enough time just finding someone for my heir to marry.  :D

Thankfully only two people in the house actually go to a job...but one of those is a firefighter.

My founder is really old so i'm hoping she'll find her way into the grave soon. She's gotten senile and started flirting with anyone that comes in the house if I don't keep track of her. I have no clue what triggered that because she has no traits for flirty, and she only started doing it when she hit elder.

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« Reply #135 on: August 04, 2010, 02:52:17 PM »
For the still life portrait, get the camera up close and angled toward the easel before you make the selection to paint.  Then when your Sim comes to the easel, he'll be in camera range and you can just use "C" to capture it.

I'm having trouble with the viewfinder. It starts out above the roof so I can't use it indoors.

Jestina, I know how you feel. Finding a mate for the heir and spare is such a chore, and sooo time consuming. In high school, I have them spend their days "Making New Friends" instead of working hard, hah! I've found some apparently young adults for my newly young adult to consider, but for all I know they're adult going on elder, and not a good breeding choice. I wish we had a way to know the age of potential mates!
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Re: The Legacy Help, Tips, and Strategies Thread
« Reply #136 on: August 04, 2010, 04:33:15 PM »
I wish we had a way to know the age of potential mates!

Agreed. My heir married a guy and he turned elder the next day. I think the "making new friends" in high school is a good way to do it because they age up at roughly the same time as your sim making good options. The other thing is though that you don't know their LTW either and if you're doing points then if they have the same one it won't count.

What am I supposed to do with all these people in my sims house, i've never gotten that far into legacy?  :D

What I'm trying to do is just work on completing their LTW as quickly as possible and get them out of the house so I get their points and get rid of them lol. For my first spare this was fairly easy because he ended up with the LTW to master painting and writing, and I had his painting skill almost maxed before he was a young adult, but I'm sure it will get more difficult when you have sims with LTW to max a career or something like that that you can't start working on before young adulthood.
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« Reply #137 on: August 04, 2010, 05:21:02 PM »
My founder married Miraj Alvi and he had Da Vinci LTW. Yeah, like he's going to accomplish that with a family and everything else.  :D

Ambitions careers are bleh in legacy. On the plus side, I guess the family has fire insurance now.

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« Reply #138 on: August 04, 2010, 05:59:04 PM »
I hit another sticky point. My first son just became young adult, and got his random trait. It then brought up 5 LTWs to choose from, none of them what I'd have chosen for him. There was no way to exit from that LTW Choice window, either. I might have wanted for him to be self-employed or be a writer. Am I missing some way to do that?
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« Reply #139 on: August 04, 2010, 07:01:38 PM »
When people do legacy stories or blogs, etc, do they post daily? I'm not sick of it or anything, just don't always have enough time or inspiration and I'm getting Ambitions in exactly one day -so I'm going to be testing that out (so excited!). Also, is it possible to just fill in the points earned throughout a legacy near the end of the latter generations without having to record every point you get as you go along? I mean, you'd probably have to remember about 20 lifetime wishes and check the family portraits and funds, but it still seems fairly easy to work out. What do most people do?
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« Reply #140 on: August 04, 2010, 07:09:54 PM »
I do mine when I feel like it or have played through several days, sometimes I get about two chapters a week, depends how often you play.  :)
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« Reply #141 on: August 04, 2010, 07:22:41 PM »
Ya sounds much better than treating it as a sort of responsibility, which would ruin the fun of it. Been reading the Character Legacy as a sort of reference to the format, etc of posts. Absolutely fantastic! Lol the Flintstones...
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« Reply #142 on: August 04, 2010, 07:32:30 PM »
I hit another sticky point. My first son just became young adult, and got his random trait. It then brought up 5 LTWs to choose from, none of them what I'd have chosen for him. There was no way to exit from that LTW Choice window, either. I might have wanted for him to be self-employed or be a writer. Am I missing some way to do that?

Just pick one and then save up for the change lifetime wish reward I guess.

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« Reply #143 on: August 04, 2010, 07:34:02 PM »
I hit another sticky point. My first son just became young adult, and got his random trait. It then brought up 5 LTWs to choose from, none of them what I'd have chosen for him. There was no way to exit from that LTW Choice window, either. I might have wanted for him to be self-employed or be a writer. Am I missing some way to do that?

Unfortunately its kinda like when you're creating a new sims and you get 5 LTW to choose from. It goes according to traits, so the 5 to choose from aren't going to be any different if you could close the window, it's based on traits. I'm pretty sure though you have to choose the LTW at the time of aging to young adult.
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« Reply #144 on: August 04, 2010, 07:42:35 PM »
But that's not true. In CAS you can "re-roll" the LTWs based upon your traits, without changing the traits. Often different LTWs come up.
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« Reply #145 on: August 04, 2010, 08:15:35 PM »
But that's not true. In CAS you can "re-roll" the LTWs based upon your traits, without changing the traits. Often different LTWs come up.

Oh, hehe, I didn't know that. :P oops
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« Reply #146 on: August 04, 2010, 08:49:41 PM »
Actually that's only partly true. You see, lifetime wishes are indeed based on the chosen traits for a Sim, but they are chosen in conjunction with which traits are connected to them. For example, the lifetime wish to have a certain values worth of stolen items requires the kleptomaniac trait (obviously), or else it would not be plausible and hence it will not show up in the reshuffle when you Create A Sim or use the Change Lifetime Wish reward. Some traits allow for several lifetime wishes and others only a few, using these variables the game gives a set number of wishes available to a sim. Those are the ones which your Sim can choose from.
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« Reply #147 on: August 04, 2010, 09:34:28 PM »
My point is that there are more than 5 LTWs for a given set of traits. Try this: go into CAS and view the new character's personality. Note the LTWs offered. Now exit the personality screen without choosing one. Open up the same personality screen and you will likely see 1-3 different LTWs offered compared to the first time.

Because it's advantageous not to repeat a given LTW within a legacy, or at least optimize a sim's choices, I thought there was a way to have more control over the LTW (at least to permit a parent to work at home). I'm stuck with a none-too-bright World Renowned Surgeon with Hates the Outdoors, Never-Nude, Friendly, Good Sense of Humor, and Family Oriented. Not Bookworm, Genius, Workaholic or other traits recommended for success in this LTW.

There are often other LTWs suggested before becoming Young Adult, but without knowing the final trait, it's hard to know if one of those early ones should be chosen. I figured the Legacy gurus know something I don't, which is why I posted my confusion here. Maybe in the future I'll just leave the Family Trait until last, so I will know the first four traits when early LTWs pop up as wishes.

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« Reply #148 on: August 04, 2010, 10:02:44 PM »
Well on the good side, at least the sim will be working indoors.  :D I'd suggest um...maybe training that sims charisma and then get the LTW change that cost 10,000. Then hopefully switch into business or politics.

But that's why you have lots of kids, so you can choose the one with the best traits to be heir and then boot everyone else out.

The heir in my current legacy is a virtuoso who wants to be a rockstar, but she hates art...which I thought was a little amusing.

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« Reply #149 on: August 04, 2010, 10:49:25 PM »
I think that there are a number of ways in which the legacy rules don't translate well to WA + Ambitions playstyle, and I may not be suited to strict legacy play under those circumstances. I think I'll keep the family legacy, but try to come up with a more adaptive rule-set for myself that better incorporates self-employment now that it's an option. Thanks for the help, and putting up with my angst.
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