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Tutorials: Landscaping Help Section
« on: August 09, 2010, 04:55:04 AM »

(This may not be the best example but I can change it later on)

I have had a few people ask about landscaping and where I get my inspiration from so I thought I would make a Thread to share some of this and for other people to share ideas and methods.

Some Tips Below:

Think about who lives in the house, how many people, careers, traits and style to design your outdoor space.

  • Use the space wisely
  • You don't need a lot of flowers/shrubs to make a garden look good
  • If you have a patio area start with that so you know what space you have left
  • Use decorations and flowers to make a homely garden
  • Terrain paints can be mixed for a good combo that looks realistic, a whole area of one texture may look odd

I tend to design my gardens around the sims who will use it, if there is a gardener I leave space for a garden, an Athlete maybe a pool or outdoor workout area, Hopeless Romantic maybe a Fire and a two person love seat. There are many combinations which can work together, you can create several sections in one garden, a Kids Area, Family area and quiet area.

If you have a view work with it, don't block it out with hundreds of trees, a few in the corner or by the house don't look bad but they make a lot of difference to the appeal of the house. A few flower beds round front don't hurt, a tree and shrubbery by the Carport.

Inspiration - The best place to get inspiration from is other peoples gardens/outdoor areas. See what they have done, what works well and what doesn't, just a walk around the town or village can give inspiration. TV programs on gardening and shows of landscaping help.

This is a show near where I live which I have been to - Malvern Spring Garden Show

Google Images is also very good at showing off gardens - Google Images Gardens
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Re: Landscaping - Help Section
« Reply #1 on: August 09, 2010, 05:25:04 AM »
Very nice thread, Samoht.  :)

Just a side note, I have a niece who is living in England for 3 years and she carries on about the gardens there.  She says they are just gorgeous everywhere.
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« Reply #2 on: August 09, 2010, 07:54:10 PM »
Yes, we are really lucky to have a lot of big posh houses with cool gardens in a fairly small area (compared to the States), and then they make programmes about them for the TV so we don't even have to travel to see them  ;D

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« Reply #3 on: August 10, 2010, 04:20:00 AM »
Out in the countryside you get the big gardens which can be quite nice and not over crowded but with ponds, flower beds, trees and loads of stuff. In the 'Suburbs' you see mainly see tiny gardens full of colourful flowers.  ;)

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Pam, could I post pictures of Different types of Gardens and Landscaping you can do in this thread or does it have to be in the Building showcase?
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« Reply #4 on: August 12, 2010, 07:58:59 AM »
@Samoht:  You can put some here for instructional purposes.  :)
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Re: Landscaping - Help Section
« Reply #5 on: August 12, 2010, 08:36:47 AM »
Thanks Pam, I will put them up tomorrow! I am cleaning the house today...  :-\ So one day left of Simming before Holiday.
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« Reply #6 on: August 12, 2010, 05:57:05 PM »
When I'm doing landscaping I think of a few things my art instructors taught me.  First, uneven numbers rather than even numbers.  Three trees together, or three points of interest, doesn't have to be trees, looks better than two or four.  I also think of the color wheel.  Do I want something that blends or stands out, colorwise, and in a garden green can almost be considered a neutral color.

Do I want something formal or carefree?  Do I want cottage eclectic, (I think of the fabulous cottage gardens in England when I "see this"), or am I looking for something like Hampton Court Park Gardens, which are lovely and very formal?  Do I want Versailles, or a tiny private spot?  Or how about some of the rooftop gardens you see in big cities, which can be very varied with flowers, potted trees and fruits and veggies tucked in with nice places to sit and admire.  Hmmm, I think I need to make a roof top garden.  Here we have the Portland Experimental Rose Gardens which are cheek by jowl with the Japanese Gardens.  So much to chose from!

I tend to use a lot of hydrangeas simply because the blue and white ones are cheap!  If I had my endless funds though I know I could go hog wild.

Something I would like to see addressed in this thread is the use of ornamental rocks.  I'm terrible at that!  I never know where to put them or how to arrange them properly and I've often seen where there is a gratuitous rock just kind of stuck somewhere it doesn't quite fit in.  I avoid using them because of this, so help would be good.
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« Reply #7 on: August 12, 2010, 07:28:34 PM »
I will post some pictures and some ideas tomorrow!  :) I have heard of the Odd Numbers idea as well! I tend to go with a natural look most of the time, maybe reflecting these 'Cottage Gardens' we Brits have!  :D
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« Reply #8 on: August 12, 2010, 07:44:26 PM »
This Garden Design is to show you don't need bright colours or flowers but green can work well, it has modern features but can work with older features just as well:


This Garden Design is the Typical back garden style, flowers, stone paths and the table and umbrella. This is more of a Couples home but could work as a family or party garden:



Those are just some of the types of Gardens you could make, feel free to share images of your gardens or outdoor spaces which work well or you need help or tips for improvement. Next update I will show how you can use Sculptures and Decorative Rocks to add to your garden without going overboard.  :)
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« Reply #9 on: August 12, 2010, 08:16:30 PM »
I couldn't sleep so I did it now!  ;)

Rocks can add a natural, environmental feel to the garden, they work better in piles and I don't normally fuss over them, using Moveobjects on is the best way to landscape full stop but with rocks it is perfect. You can make new rock shapes and pull them in closer to form a pile. Rock piles always need some shrubbery in my own opinion. Undergrowth growing in gaps or over the top seem natural and realistic, a pile in a corner can fill gaps and look good at the same time.

Pictures will be added tomorrow, I have to resize them in photobucket.  8)
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« Reply #10 on: August 13, 2010, 07:41:08 AM »
So lets say you have a border, you want some flowers, shrubbery and some trees, here is how I went in steps: I used moveobjects on to do this and adding some small flowers in gaps helps a lot in my opinion.


But if you wanted a Modern beach like feel with a tropical tree and shrubs with rocks you can do this.


Now I like to use Rock 'Piles' or heaps but they can look a tad bit odd on their own, nothing a few flowers and greenery can't fix, it also makes it seem more realistic.


This was a Island in a pool, just some flowers and that was it but there was space, if you don't want to over kill add some rocks to fill it in a bit.



One rock on it's own can look a bit lonely, even with some plant life so I normally use two or three different sizes. These are also two pictures of the same heap which were a heap of rocks with several flowers in the gaps, height and low plants work well in 'rockeries'



Hope this has helped you with using rocks as a decorative item.  :)
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« Reply #11 on: August 15, 2010, 03:47:43 PM »
Thank you! Thank you! Thank you!  It really has helped a lot.  Ummm, can you do a lovely English, cottage garden for me?  I miss seeing them.  Lots of lavender please.  (the herb, not the color)
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« Reply #12 on: August 21, 2010, 06:15:20 PM »
Sure, I will have a go!  :)
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« Reply #13 on: August 21, 2010, 07:07:47 PM »
@Samoht: I can't believe you're only 13! Is that for real? Do you hope to become an architect?

One problem I have with landscaping is trees blocking my view of the sims. Unfortunately that results in my placing trees around the margins of the lot.
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« Reply #14 on: August 21, 2010, 07:12:49 PM »
Well nearer 14 in about 14 days!  ;D I have thought of architecture but in Real Life there is maths...  :-X

That is something you have to think about, which view are you more likely to see in? I think I remember you saying you zoomed out to play so extra hard to landscape!  ;)
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« Reply #15 on: August 21, 2010, 07:17:27 PM »
Never let math keep you from your dreams. Math tutors are more plentiful than people with natural design talent.
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« Reply #16 on: August 21, 2010, 08:47:40 PM »
LlamaMama's right, Samhoht04, never let stinkin' "Math" keep you from your dreams.

Never let anything keep YOU from YOUR dreams. Your dreams belong to you, all the other stuff (like folks telling you, "You need to be really good at 'mathematics' to be an Architect."), are just folks telling you stuff.

An architect that does it for a living will tell you different. It's about vision, and working with clients. And then hoping it gets built!  :P

Like LlamaMama, I often don't really landscape a house my Sims are living in because it's hard to see my Sims for the trees. When you are landscaping, do you have Sims living in them Samhoht04, or are you in "Build Mode?"

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« Reply #17 on: August 21, 2010, 08:50:22 PM »
It depends whether I have a family in or not, I used Edit Town for the tutorials though.  :) (I am also quite good at maths!  ;)) If I have a family I personalize the landscape and garden for them.
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« Reply #18 on: August 21, 2010, 09:23:51 PM »
(I am also quite good at maths!  ;))

Well then, alrighty. My work here is done. ;)
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« Reply #19 on: August 22, 2010, 01:58:31 PM »
-Sorry no pictures in game yet-

Anyway lot's of people keep talking about the 'English Cottage Garden' being English I have absolutely no clue what this is!  :D
Over here it is just the way people garden and do the landscaping, there are two main types of 'English Gardens'

There is the:
 - Formal Manor Garden

or the:
 - Cottage Garden

There are two main differences between them, Formal is organized and structured with paths, hedges, topiaries and the likes but the Cottage Garden had often been about the mixture of plants, utilizing all areas of a Garden with colourful nice looking plants, hanging baskets, pots and flowers, you can get herbs and shrubs in borders there are often winding paths going through all the flowers and greenery.

Here are some pictures of Real Gardens in England.

Formal: (Hampton Court Palace Gardens)


Cottage: (A Cottage)
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« Reply #20 on: August 22, 2010, 03:39:23 PM »
I guess nobody knows why that's called an English garden. The same for the French garden...
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« Reply #21 on: August 24, 2010, 07:43:39 PM »
I guess it is mainly the Buildings the gardens are near which give a lot of the style. So the English Garden is either a posh Manor Home with huge gardens or a very small thatched cottage with bunches of flowers and small veggie plots.
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« Reply #22 on: August 24, 2010, 08:29:47 PM »
I will upload my photos of the English Gardens (Sims Style) tomorrow.  ;) Sorry about the wait!
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« Reply #23 on: August 25, 2010, 08:12:05 PM »
So here are my Sims 3 attempts... I wasn't quite sure what you meant by the 'English Garden' so I assumed these:

Formal:



Normal:



For the normal Garden I copied what most gardens are in England, Wild. Well that is what the owners will tell you!  :D



Anyone have any questions just post or if you want to share an opinion or your own Gardening style, or get some help with a space just say!  ;)
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« Reply #24 on: August 25, 2010, 08:17:30 PM »
I really like the 'wild' normal garden!  You are so talented!
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