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Re: The Sims 3 Immortal Dynasty Challenge
« Reply #1300 on: November 13, 2010, 09:22:54 AM »
I didn't see it in the rules but I think I saw it in this thread. They can't move in until they were married right?

Right. It is in the rules actually. The only household members allowed are immortals and their spouses and offspring and their spouses.

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Re: The Sims 3 Immortal Dynasty Challenge
« Reply #1301 on: November 13, 2010, 10:00:13 AM »
Right, right, right. Doh! And I think it was in a message that you also said it. Like I tell my son. 'How many times do I have tell you..."  ::)

So this time round I'm just gonna get right into finding a spouse. Hey can I marry, move in spouse so I can get my portrait done in time, then divorce them and kick them out when I find the one I really want to marry? He he.



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Re: The Sims 3 Immortal Dynasty Challenge
« Reply #1302 on: November 13, 2010, 10:34:33 AM »
Hey can I marry, move in spouse so I can get my portrait done in time, then divorce them and kick them out when I find the one I really want to marry? He he.

Nope. All spouses must live a full life and die without assistance from you. If your Founder's first spouse dies, then your he/she could remarry.

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Re: The Sims 3 Immortal Dynasty Challenge
« Reply #1303 on: November 13, 2010, 10:41:25 AM »
All spouses must live a full life in the house.
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Re: The Sims 3 Immortal Dynasty Challenge
« Reply #1304 on: November 13, 2010, 10:59:23 AM »
I figured as much. Just thought I would ask.  ;) I guess this will start off like my grandparents marriage. Except I hope to keep them in the same bedroom.

At first I was going to play out my Sim's last day. But I think I'm just going to let it go. I think I will post the story. Shouldn't let my photo shots go to waste right?

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Re: The Sims 3 Immortal Dynasty Challenge
« Reply #1305 on: November 13, 2010, 02:36:32 PM »
Do all of the Immortals apart from No7 have to have a spouse that lives in the household or can the (say father) not live with the family?
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Re: The Sims 3 Immortal Dynasty Challenge
« Reply #1306 on: November 13, 2010, 02:51:02 PM »
Do all of the Immortals apart from No7 have to have a spouse that lives in the household or can the (say father) not live with the family?

Pam's comment above is pretty clear. The only thing I'll add to it is that you obviously only need to be concerned about spouses living in the house while they're alive. That may seem painfully obvious, but I don't want players to feel they have to remarry and put another spouse back in the house as soon as a spouse dies.

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Re: The Sims 3 Immortal Dynasty Challenge
« Reply #1307 on: November 13, 2010, 03:49:38 PM »
It has to happen in this order:

1.  Get married.
2.  Move into the Dynasty house.
3.  Spouse dies with no interference.
4.  Widow may remarry or not, however the player wishes.

No exception or variance from these steps is allowed.
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« Reply #1308 on: November 13, 2010, 06:01:44 PM »
It has to happen in this order:

1.  Get married.
2.  Move into the Dynasty house.
3.  Spouse dies with no interference.
4.  Widow may remarry or not, however the player wishes.

No exception or variance from these steps is allowed.

Pam the rule actually states:
All offspring must result from natural pregnancies of Sims living in the Dynasty house.
Your first 6 immortals can be male or female and their spouses must live in the Dynasty house until their death

I might be missing something but It does not state any where in the rules on the first page that people have to get married first before they reproduce. Also it doesn't say that they have to get married at all it just says that spouses must live in the dynasty house till they die. Technically there is no rule that says immortals have to get married at all.

The reason I am querying this, is that I have an idea for a shotgun wedding in my dynasty. The immortal in question gets pregnant after a nectar induced one night stand then has to get married. I am guessing by the rules you posted about getting married first that would not be possible to do.



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Re: The Sims 3 Immortal Dynasty Challenge
« Reply #1309 on: November 13, 2010, 06:07:32 PM »
I had always moved my sims in first too, before getting married and I read somewhere about getting married first, so I thought, shoot, I must have missed that.  I too read the rules from top to bottom and did not see that they had to get married first.  If that is the case, it is not a big deal.  At this moment I am not really doing a story.  I am like ratchie, maybe I am missing it, but I have read and reread it and cannot seem to locate where it states that.
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Re: The Sims 3 Immortal Dynasty Challenge
« Reply #1310 on: November 13, 2010, 06:50:04 PM »
Does the spouse have to be the father of the child. There are a lot of step families out there with men and women raising children that are not biologically theirs and doing a brilliant job of it.

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Re: The Sims 3 Immortal Dynasty Challenge
« Reply #1311 on: November 13, 2010, 07:22:00 PM »
Does the spouse have to be the father of the child. There are a lot of step families out there with men and women raising children that are not biologically theirs and doing a brilliant job of it.

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I do not doubt that, but we're trying to promote bloodline here. It just fits in with the whole theme of the DynastyŚcohesiveness, balance. If Joe Blow gets your Founder pregnant, but then Joe's brother is actually who ends up marrying your Founder and moving into the Dynasty house, it just doesn't jive with me. Where's the bloodline? Now you've only got half the bloodline in the house. Yeah, it happens all the time in real life, but this isn't real life.

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EDIT: I decided to delete my previous post because it kind of contradicted what I'm saying in this post. Bottom line is I really do support Pam's outlined 4 steps on the previous page and that's simply what players need to adhere to. It's about bloodline. You need that common bloodline in the house, as spouses.

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« Reply #1312 on: November 13, 2010, 09:59:54 PM »
Now with all the talk of spouses I wanted to ask, if my second generation immortal has a brother, is he allowed to get married and have the spouse move in with them? I know it would make things harder, but I want to do it if I can. It's not in the rules, so I expect it's not against the rules, but I'd rather be safe than sorry.

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Re: The Sims 3 Immortal Dynasty Challenge
« Reply #1313 on: November 13, 2010, 10:05:21 PM »
...if my second generation immortal has a brother is he allowed to get married and have the spouse move in with them? I no it would make things harder but I want to do it if I can it's not in the rules so I expect it's not against the rules but I'd rather be safe than sorry.

Yes, you could have a spare child get married and have the spouse move in.

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« Reply #1314 on: November 14, 2010, 03:52:34 AM »
I honestly don't understand all the confusion about spouses and marring into dynasty family. It seems clear to me that only Sims entering household can be done through marriage with immortal or immortal to be, and that heirs can be conceived only with spouse living in dynasty home.
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« Reply #1315 on: November 14, 2010, 04:41:50 AM »
I do not doubt that, but we're trying to promote bloodline here. It just fits in with the whole theme of the DynastyŚcohesiveness, balance. If Joe Blow gets your Founder pregnant, but then Joe's brother is actually who ends up marrying your Founder and moving into the Dynasty house, it just doesn't jive with me. Where's the bloodline? Now you've only got half the bloodline in the house. Yeah, it happens all the time in real life, but this isn't real life.

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EDIT: I decided to delete my previous post because it kind of contradicted what I'm saying in this post. Bottom line is I really do support Pam's outlined 4 steps on the previous page and that's simply what players need to adhere to. It's about bloodline. You need that common bloodline in the house, as spouses.

Yes but back to my point about Pam's rule about getting married first it is not actually an official rule if someone chose not to have their immortal get married it would not break any rules. I am a hundred percent behind the traditional values that you are promoting I am just saying that someone could read the rules on page one and infer from them that marriage is not necessarily a given.

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Re: The Sims 3 Immortal Dynasty Challenge
« Reply #1316 on: November 14, 2010, 05:13:58 AM »
Metro talked about it last night and he will address this issue when he comes online later today.
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« Reply #1317 on: November 14, 2010, 05:51:00 AM »
I do not doubt that, but we're trying to promote bloodline here. It just fits in with the whole theme of the DynastyŚcohesiveness, balance. If Joe Blow gets your Founder pregnant, but then Joe's brother is actually who ends up marrying your Founder and moving into the Dynasty house, it just doesn't jive with me. Where's the bloodline? Now you've only got half the bloodline in the house. Yeah, it happens all the time in real life, but this isn't real life.

Just another quick question about the bloodline thing. Sorry I know I am being annoying. You say that you don't like the idea of only half the bloodline being in the house yet generation 7 is allowed to be a single mum. Wouldn't it make more sense for generation six to have twins that way both parents are in the house in order to raise the children.
Also your example of Joe gets your founder pregnant but his brother marries your founder meaning you only have half the bloodline in the house is not the best example of your point. Joe and his brother are brothers and share the same blood. It would be a different story if it was Joe's best friend who marries the founder.

Again I am sorry for being such a pain.

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« Reply #1318 on: November 14, 2010, 07:33:27 AM »
The limit for the household is 8 Sims, there would not be room in the household for a baby if Generation 7 married a male spouse in. So that would be the only exception I assume.
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« Reply #1319 on: November 14, 2010, 07:55:54 AM »
The limit for the household is 8 Sims, there would not be room in the household for a baby if Generation 7 married a male spouse in. So that would be the only exception I assume.

Yes I understand that but Metro stated that Sims have to get married in order to have both halves of the bloodline in the house but apparently it is alright to only have half the bloodline when it comes to generation eight.
All I am saying is that somethings are contradictary. If someone was to only read the rules on page one and not read any of the other replies in this thread they would assume that your Sims do not have to get married.
Again I totally agree with the promoting family values and traditions whereby two Sims meet get married and have a baby. I was just trying to point out how it reads when you look at the rules.
At this point though I don't know that I am even making sense to myself any more let alone to the rest of you.

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Re: The Sims 3 Immortal Dynasty Challenge
« Reply #1320 on: November 14, 2010, 08:05:11 AM »
Okay, folks. Listen up. This whole issue of "do my immortals have to be married?" and "do my spouses need to live in the house?" is starting to wear thin on me. Pam and I had a pow wow last night and it was decided that as long as players follow the explicit rules, then you're fine. Yes, there is no rule specifically stating that an immortal needs to be married. And yes, there's no rule specifically stating that spouses have to live in the house. I guess I'm just old-fashioned and assumed that players would make that leap as to what needed to be done. I'm sorry I wasn't more specific, guys. It's a little late to now to change a rule like that, so if someone wants to do it the old-fashioned way Ś you marry, then the spouse moves in, great. That was always my intent. If someone wants to change things up for variety, hey Ś go for it. As long as you follow the rules, I'm okay with it. 

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« Reply #1321 on: November 14, 2010, 08:24:43 AM »
Thank you I do apologize for being so irritating and tiresome. I would like to assure you that it will not happen again but I will most likely be irritating and tiresome again in the future  ;)
Now if someone could let me know how they keep their immortals entertained and stop them from gaining skill points in other areas I would be grateful.

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« Reply #1322 on: November 14, 2010, 08:45:33 AM »
Thanks for making this issue more clear, I was wondering if I just broke a rule or not.

I don't care about weddings so I might as well let them get married first but it's more important now after Late Night - with the rate my neighbourhood is turning into vampires I need to move in a spouse as soon as possible before they get turned and that might mean before the immortal becomes young adult if that is allowed.

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« Reply #1323 on: November 14, 2010, 09:17:08 AM »
I posted in technical board an issue with missing tags in map view. There is no tag for buildings, collectables, celebrities, opportunities, adventures nor ghosts (and I used to track all of them). More details are in that tread but here I plead Metro for green light to use previous save. (and wouldn't mind special effect from Sphinx but can do without it ;D).
As for spouses - spouse is by definition married partner, so there was no confusion for me, plus dynasty itself is conservative term (at least I associate it like that) so it was only natural to assume to have spouses married in. Now I got confused, it seems that only difference is that instead of "propose marriage/get married/try for baby" you can chose to go with "move in/try for baby". Not much of a variation.
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« Reply #1324 on: November 14, 2010, 09:20:33 AM »
I keep a computer and chess set in a locked room that only my logical Sim can get in to. I gave my other Sims the cheapest computer to play games and socialise on. It does not have the option to play chess on it.

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