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Re: The Sims 3 Immortal Dynasty Challenge
« Reply #275 on: August 28, 2010, 03:31:21 PM »
Oh, good.  Actually, I've always felt the rules were very clear on the SuperMax issue, but sometimes I get confused reading other posters' interpretations of the rules.  But I sure wish it was possible to have both Athletics and Martial Arts as SuperMaxes.  There are some skills I just don't want to take on for SuperMax because I'm not sure I'll be able to do all the skill challenges.  But I do feel quite confident about Athletics and Martial Arts.  Oh, well.  It shouldn't all be easy, right?  That's why this is a Challenge, I guess.
 
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« Reply #276 on: August 28, 2010, 03:56:56 PM »
So basically, you have to have a plan as to who will do what before you even get started, because it would be very easy to foul things up for future generations.  Ugh... this will be a major stretch for a fly-by-the-seat-of-my-pants gal like myself. 

I feel so conflicted now!  I really want to like this challenge, but it just seems like an awful lot of record keeping and preciseness.  I thought you were trying to make something simpler than the Legacy Challenge?  This seems to be interesting, but MUCH more challenging and spread-sheet demanding.  For the Legacy Challenge I keep maybe 1/2 page of notes.  For this challenge it seems like I'll need 1 page for EVERY sim I have.  Yikes! 

My mind has been whirring over this whole thing, but I'm starting to think that it's just gonna be too much for me.  Which is ok, I realize these challenges aren't for everyone.  I love a good challenge, but YIKES!

I will be watching people's stories with much interest.  But at this point I think I'm gonna sit back and watch rather than participate.

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« Reply #277 on: August 28, 2010, 04:45:11 PM »
Metro, what career is your martial artist going to max?
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Re: The Sims 3 Immortal Dynasty Challenge
« Reply #278 on: August 28, 2010, 04:46:58 PM »
Your prize is you no longer need to ask me any more SuperMax questions for the duration of your Dynasty!

Aw, you know how I love to ask questions - what kind of prize is that?  Please sir, can I have one more question?  Please?

With your scenario, if Gen 5's SuperMax skill is Athletics, and Gen 6 accidentally maxes Athletics while working on Martial Arts, we know that Gen 6 has to scramble and find another SuperMax skill.  But what about Gen 5?  Do they also have to find a new SuperMax skill, since SuperMax skills are defined as skills not maximized by any other immortals?  What if Gen 5 is already Elder and has eaten Ambrosia?  

This is definitely my last question.  Well, until next time.  :D
 
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Re: The Sims 3 Immortal Dynasty Challenge
« Reply #279 on: August 28, 2010, 04:56:34 PM »
He probably won't max Athletic while doing Martial Arts, unless he keeps doing Martial Arts after super maxing it.  I had a sim maxed in MA with all skill challenges done, except for the meditating one, and her athletic was around no more than 6 or 7.  And if your sim meditates, it raises MA, but not athletic.

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Re: The Sims 3 Immortal Dynasty Challenge
« Reply #280 on: August 28, 2010, 04:58:48 PM »
He probably won't max Athletic while doing Martial Arts, unless he keeps doing Martial Arts after super maxing it.  I had a sim maxed in MA with all skill challenges done, except for the meditating one, and her athletic was around no more than 6 or 7.  And if your sim meditates, it raises MA, but not athletic.
Oh, thank you for sharing that.  This is indeed good news.  I really, really want a Martial Artist.  I think, just to be sure, I'll do the Martial Artist before the Athlete so if necessary the later Immortal can pick something other than Athletics.
 
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Re: The Sims 3 Immortal Dynasty Challenge
« Reply #281 on: August 28, 2010, 05:00:15 PM »
I read all the pages late last night, and I'm sorry if I missed this or am doubling up a question, but after moving a spouse onto the dynasty lot, are we allowed to sell that spouse's possessions (if he/she has any in inventory)?  For example, I'm considering marrying Billy Caspian.  In a previous game of mine, he had a car in his inventory.  Would I be allowed to sell that to help with money early on?

Also, to double-check, repeating traits among immortals is okay, right?  

Hrm, I guess I had more questions than I thought...also to double-check, is Collecting considered one of the maxable/supermaxable skills?  For some reason I've never really thought of it as a legitimate skill since it's not really associated with much, but I guess it shows up in the skill journal and has its own skill challenges (though no careers or opportunities or lifetime wishes with it, I don't think)... Thanks, Schipperke!  I forgot it doesn't have levels to increase, silly me.

Oh, and one more question (sorry): you say special opportunities are allowed...does this include Adventures?  I'm guessing not, since there are so many different adventures and this would seem to make the unique six per immortal a lot easier to accomplish, but the Sims Wiki states, "An Adventure is an Opportunity that a Sim can have on vacation with The Sims 3: World Adventures in Shang Simla, Al Simhara or Champs Les Sims." so I wasn't sure.  I'm assuming you mean special opportunities to just be town cookoffs or eating contests or chess tournaments or similar, but I thought I'd get some clarification. :)

And last but not least, I guess I may as well have you double-check my (rough) Dynasty plan: ;)
Immortal 1: Science career, Supermax Handiness
Immortal 2: Sculptor self-employed, Supermax Sculpting
Immortal 3: Painter (or possibly writer, as I plan for Illustrious Author ltw) self-employed, Supermax Painting
Immortal 4: Photographer self-employed, Supermax Photography
Immortal 5: Culinary career, Supermax Cooking
Immortal 6: Medical career, Supermax Logic
Immortal 7: Sports career, Supermax Martial Arts
Immortal 8: Music (Rock) career, Supermax Guitar

Leaving Fishing, Gardening, Writing, Charisma, Nectar-Making, Athletic, and Collecting skills available to be maxed (and skill challenges completed if I wish) for any immortal.  Have I got it right?

Sorry for the long post.  Thanks for your answers in advance :)

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Re: The Sims 3 Immortal Dynasty Challenge
« Reply #282 on: August 28, 2010, 05:07:20 PM »
He probably won't max Athletic while doing Martial Arts, unless he keeps doing Martial Arts after super maxing it.  I had a sim maxed in MA with all skill challenges done, except for the meditating one, and her athletic was around no more than 6 or 7.  And if your sim meditates, it raises MA, but not athletic.

Martial Arts is a fabulous skill to continue using past SuperMaxing. You get great wealth from breaking space rocks. That's why limiting athletics for a martial artists is pretty self-defeating.
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Re: The Sims 3 Immortal Dynasty Challenge
« Reply #283 on: August 28, 2010, 05:16:13 PM »
Hi Kilwala, and welcome to the Forum!  I'm going to answer some of your questions - the ones I'm confident about - and Metro or someone else can address the rest.

1.  You can sell anything.  If your founder's spouse arrives with a good car, lucky you!

2.  Collecting is a skill but cannot be a SuperMax skill because it does not have levels.  Since it cannot be a SuperMax skill, any of your Immortals can get into collecting.

3.  I am fairly sure the Opportunities refers to the ones you get in your home community, but would appreciate Metro's response to that.

4.  I think your proposed plan looks great!  Good luck, and be sure to let us know how things are going.

5.  Edit:  There is no restriction on what traits you give your Immortals or repeating traits.

Edited again:  I just became a HERO!  Woohoo!  Break out the champagne - ah, nectar!
 
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Re: The Sims 3 Immortal Dynasty Challenge
« Reply #284 on: August 28, 2010, 05:21:57 PM »
Ah, Llama, you make a good point!  I think I'd be okay with only one Immortal having MA though, as I plan to have all (or most of them, as many as I have time for before Ambrosia eating...of course I have all the time in the world after, haha) become authors and specialize in masterpieces for the big bucks.  I've had luck with that in past games :)

And Schipperke, I guess that is true about Collecting, the no levels :D  Shows you how often I actually mess with it in game, haha.  Thank you for your other answers, too :)

Thanks to both of you, and for the forum welcome.  I'm glad to be here, and I think this challenge will prove a lot of fun!

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« Reply #285 on: August 28, 2010, 05:41:38 PM »
I'll add my welcome, too Kilwala. I hope you'll share your dynasty story with us.
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« Reply #286 on: August 28, 2010, 06:02:54 PM »
Thank you! I'm definitely planning on sharing!  I don't think I'll be making a blog (as I'm currently doing the legacy challenge and taking loads and loads of screenshots for that), but I'll be happy to make update posts as I go.

I'll direct this to Pam/Metro-- should we abstain from posting screenshots in this thread?  Would external links be better? 

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« Reply #287 on: August 28, 2010, 06:27:32 PM »
I'll direct this to Pam/Metro-- should we abstain from posting screenshots in this thread?  Would external links be better? 

Update posts would be much better suited in a story in the Stories section. Many players have started them. Good luck! :)

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« Reply #288 on: August 28, 2010, 06:40:28 PM »
As to the opportunities for kids - mine got one to take a fish they caught to the science lab. 

Also, I have discovered that certain skills are super easy for other Sims to max out when you are off fishing, etc.  My Sim's spouse maxed cooking behind my back.  I never told him to cook or let him cook but he sure enough has maxed it out.  Now I realize that he isn't a problem but once we get a couple generations in the same house it is going to be almost impossible to keep them away from things like cooking.  I always made sure there were leftovers and he doesn't have a natural cook as a trait.  I am never going to be able to make ambrosia so I just may be starting over again.  How are you going to keep your other immortals from maxing out the skills that they shouldn't?  I am thinking it might be best to go with skills for immortals that aren't so likely that others might do when you aren't looking.

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« Reply #289 on: August 28, 2010, 06:45:59 PM »
Update posts would be much better suited in a story in the Stories section. Many players have started them. Good luck! :)

Ah, okay, that makes sense :D Thanks!

Just as a very brief update though, my first Immortal, Chizue, just married Billy Caspian (he was a consignment specialist in this game, and they got married right in the shop, lol), and sure enough, he had a Margaret Vaguester in his inventory!  So I'm on day one with a hefty 114,000+ to build a suitable starting dynasty house.  Billy also starts with 4 Painting.  Not bad, huh?

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« Reply #290 on: August 28, 2010, 07:04:25 PM »
Also, I have discovered that certain skills are super easy for other Sims to max out when you are off fishing, etc.  My Sim's spouse maxed cooking behind my back.  I never told him to cook or let him cook but he sure enough has maxed it out.   I am never going to be able to make ambrosia so I just may be starting over again.  How are you going to keep your other immortals from maxing out the skills that they shouldn't?  I am thinking it might be best to go with skills for immortals that aren't so likely that others might do when you aren't looking.

Telsey, I don't understand.  Why will you never be able to make ambrosia?  The natural cook trait has nothing to do with it, anyone with level 10 cooking and enough money can buy the recipe from the bookstore and learn it.

As for keeping them from learning other skills, yeah, I know what you mean.  My founder is a fisherman and I gave his daughter Loves the Outdoors, which was probably a mistake.  Every time I turn my back she's watching the Fishing channel on television!  No, no, watch the Kids channel!  :D
 
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« Reply #291 on: August 28, 2010, 07:51:53 PM »
 Schipperke My ambrosia problems are the funds for the recipe and getting the ingredients for it.  I have spent so much time with everything else that the fishing is lacking and also the 6 friends.  This is a very hard challenge.  It is very stressful.  You sort of have to be thinking all the time while you play.  I have no doubt I will be forced to start over but I am really good at getting a husband for her.  I had the husband work on painting so he could do portraits and I started off with him doing the gardening too but that didn't work out for long.  It is fun to fool with this challenge though and you really find out where your game weaknesses lie.


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« Reply #292 on: August 28, 2010, 08:01:28 PM »
Yeah, Telsey, there is really a lot to keep track of.  Fortunately we can start over as many times as we want, and you certainly won't be the first one to do that!  I look forward to hearing about your next Dynasty.
 
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« Reply #293 on: August 28, 2010, 08:02:05 PM »
Schipperke My ambrosia problems are the funds for the recipe and getting the ingredients for it.  I have spent so much time with everything else that the fishing is lacking and also the 6 friends.

My Founder will not learn fishing probably until a week or so before I think he'll eat Ambrosia. It's one of the last things I'm guessing he'll accomplish. But, fishing is one of the fastest skills you can max. It's entirely possible to max the skill in 3 days (or less) assuming you've got Steel Bladder and Hardly Hungry.

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« Reply #294 on: August 28, 2010, 08:05:46 PM »
Is there a way to lock a door to other Sims in the household? I don't know if this would work but couldn't you keep the skill objects that you plan on maxing in a room with a locked door and only certain Sims could access it. I don't know if that is possible but it is an idea otherwise when you leave the lot although it would be a pain but you could take away the skill objects and put them in the family inventory so that you don't have to worry about them maxing it while you are away or at least you could do that to the ones they are dangerously close to maxing but can't max! Again just ideas I have started my Dynasty yet so I don't have any idea what I will do but thought that might work.

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« Reply #295 on: August 28, 2010, 08:06:32 PM »
Aw, you know how I love to ask questions - what kind of prize is that?  Please sir, can I have one more question?  Please?

With your scenario, if Gen 5's SuperMax skill is Athletics, and Gen 6 accidentally maxes Athletics while working on Martial Arts, we know that Gen 6 has to scramble and find another SuperMax skill.  But what about Gen 5?  Do they also have to find a new SuperMax skill, since SuperMax skills are defined as skills not maximized by any other immortals?  What if Gen 5 is already Elder and has eaten Ambrosia?  

This is definitely my last question.  Well, until next time.  :D

Answer, please?  ;D
 
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« Reply #296 on: August 28, 2010, 08:09:03 PM »
Well, Metro you give me renewed hope.  Actually she has her fishing at level five or six.  There seems so much left to do with her yet and then her hubby maxing the cooking really threw me and I wished I hadn't tried the cooking for supermaxed skill.  Plus they are still living outside and I keep watching for meteors.  After TommyT's disaster I am nervous being out there for so long.  The Sims seem to like it though.  They have a restroom, that's it.  LOL

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« Reply #297 on: August 28, 2010, 08:57:16 PM »
Well, it appears I have encountered my first bug or glitch in this Challenge.  Generation 2 just became a teenager and I gave her the Savvy Sculptor trait, or at least I thought I did.  When I shut down the game just now, that trait wasn't there.  Her profile shows her as having only the 3 traits she had as a child.  Is there something I can do about this (something legal in this Challenge, obviously)?
 
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« Reply #298 on: August 28, 2010, 09:00:00 PM »
Answer, please?  ;D

Gen 5's SuperMax skill is Athletics. So, if Gen 5 eats the Ambrosia that SuperMax skill is locked to that immortal. If another immortal accidentally maxes Athletics later it's game over. It's harsh but it has to be that way. I'm glad you pointed out the danger in having Athletics and Martial Arts as two different SuperMax skills. I think I may go Inventor's career and Inventing/handiness to replace one of those.

Plus they are still living outside and I keep watching for meteors.  After TommyT's disaster I am nervous being out there for so long.

I'm quite confident that you'd have absolutely no more chance of dying from a meteor by living outside than living under a roof. And just the simple act of living outside cannot possibly spawn more meteors. It's just one of those weird random things.

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« Reply #299 on: August 28, 2010, 09:02:41 PM »
Gen 5's SuperMax skill is Athletics. So, if Gen 5 eats the Ambrosia that SuperMax skill is locked to that immortal. If another immortal accidentally maxes Athletics later it's game over. It's harsh but it has to be that way. I'm glad you pointed out the danger in having Athletics and Martial Arts as two different SuperMax skills. I think I may go Inventor's career and Inventing/handiness to replace one of those.

Thanks for clarifying this.  I think I will try Martial Arts first and hope that Immortal doesn't manage to maximize their Athletic.  If they do, it will just mean choosing a different skill for the later Immortal - I won't have lost the whole game like I would if I did Athletics first.
 
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