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Re: The Sims 3 Immortal Dynasty Challenge
« Reply #925 on: September 28, 2010, 09:36:56 PM »
Bingo. NPCs age in bizarre ways sometimes.

Wow, that is really weird.  When you say they age in bizarre ways, does that mean her aging might continue to be erratic?  Is it possible she might get younger or wind up an elder before the 14 days that she now has to elderhood?  I think this is really odd, but am grateful that it will work in my favour in this case.  What if your sim married an adult, only to find they turned into an elder before they were supposed to?  What a minefield this is.  Is there any way to tell one of these strange sims before your sim commits to them?
 
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Re: The Sims 3 Immortal Dynasty Challenge
« Reply #926 on: September 28, 2010, 09:41:00 PM »
Can I join this challenge, and if yes then how I just joined so how would I join and can someone show me the ropes?

Chsharpe, welcome to the forum!  Of course you can join.  For this challenge, unlike the others, you don't need to sign up.  Just familiarize yourself with the rules on page one of this thread, and dive in.  You might like to check out the Stories section of the forum to see how other people have approached their Dynasties.  If you like, you can start a thread there about your own Dynasty, but you don't have to do that unless you want to.  Any questions, just ask.  And again, welcome.
 
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« Reply #927 on: September 28, 2010, 10:00:07 PM »
@Schipperke:

Yes, the NPC Sims are known to have messed up aging.  Paper deliverers and babysitters will be the worst because they actually age up ingame.  Maids and firefighters are already grown, so they shouldn't have that same issue.  Best thing is to avoid any who are NPC Sims.
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« Reply #928 on: September 28, 2010, 10:09:36 PM »
@Schipperke:

Yes, the NPC Sims are known to have messed up aging.  Paper deliverers and babysitters will be the worst because they actually age up ingame.  Maids and firefighters are already grown, so they shouldn't have that same issue.  Best thing is to avoid any who are NPC Sims.

Aren't all Sims who aren't one you made NPC Sims?  Or is there a difference between Sims who do services, like the maid, paper boy, etc. and your next door neighbor ?
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« Reply #929 on: September 28, 2010, 10:16:58 PM »
Aren't all Sims who aren't one you made NPC Sims?  Or is there a difference between Sims who do services, like the maid, paper boy, etc. and your next door neighbor ?

You took my question right out of my mouth, Joria. NPC means non-player character, which means any sim not created in CAS. I'm interested in which ones to watch out for.

I should mention, though, that I had a babysitter sim who turned out to be a wonderful contribution to a legacy family, with no troubles at all.
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« Reply #930 on: September 28, 2010, 10:24:18 PM »
Yes, NPC means Non-Playable Character.  However, there's a difference between an NPC and a townie (like your neighbor).  A townie can actually be played if you go into Edit Town and change households or choose to play an existing household at the start of a new game.  An NPC is one of the service industry Sims (maid, firefighter, babysitter, social worker, etc.) that doesn't have a household and cannot be played unless you bring that Sim into your household either by marriage or asking to move in.  So, here on this Forum, a townie is like Gunther Goth, Agnes Crumplebottom, Emma Hatch, etc. who actually do live in the town. 

I hope this is helpful.  :)
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Re: The Sims 3 Immortal Dynasty Challenge
« Reply #931 on: September 28, 2010, 10:29:36 PM »
Aren't all Sims who aren't one you made NPC Sims?  Or is there a difference between Sims who do services, like the maid, paper boy, etc. and your next door neighbor ?

Everyone has different definitions/standards and labels for these things. My own labels: all of the stock families in a town — the Goths, Landgraabs, Altos, etc — I call townies. Everyone else — firefighters, maids, pizza, police, etc — I call NPCs.



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« Reply #932 on: September 28, 2010, 10:49:20 PM »
We're trying to be consistent on this Forum with the way both Metro and I use the terms.  :)
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« Reply #933 on: September 28, 2010, 10:50:42 PM »
Everyone has different definitions/standards and labels for these things. My own labels: all of the stock families in a town — the Goths, Landgraabs, Altos, etc — I call townies. Everyone else — firefighters, maids, pizza, police, etc — I call NPCs.

When my sim meets another child at school - as in this instance - and the game progression has reached the point where I no longer know all the families in town, how can I tell if that child is an NPC and hence to be avoided because of possible aging abnormalities?
 
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« Reply #934 on: September 28, 2010, 10:57:15 PM »
When my sim meets another child at school - as in this instance - and the game progression has reached the point where I no longer know all the families in town, how can I tell if that child is an NPC and hence to be avoided because of possible aging abnormalities?

One good way is to read the newspaper daily.  It will tell you who moves to town, so you'll know the last names of the families.  You can also go to Map View and see if there's a house for your child's friend.  Many times, the game will just tell you in the relationship panel that the Sim is a babysitter or paper delivery boy/girl.  Also, watch for the paperboy/girl and note his/her name.  And if the child/teen has siblings in the same school, chances are that it's not an NPC, but a regular family in town.
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« Reply #935 on: September 28, 2010, 10:59:58 PM »
One good way is to read the newspaper daily.  It will tell you who moves to town, so you'll know the last names of the families. 

Looks like I better un-cancel the newspaper because at this point in my Dynasty there aren't many familiar names around town any more.  Thanks, Pam.
 
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« Reply #936 on: September 28, 2010, 11:04:40 PM »
Looks like I better un-cancel the newspaper because at this point in my Dynasty there aren't many familiar names around town any more.  Thanks, Pam.

Yeah, I stopped cancelling it once I realized how useful it is.  :)
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« Reply #937 on: September 28, 2010, 11:41:47 PM »
Few days ago I joined the Dynasty challenge after reading this topic entirely (I know, I'm a bit weird sometimes :D) After the first attempt where I bought a wrong lot and the second one where my save file was bugged I'm on my third dynasty attempt and this time everything runs smooth (toc toc toc...). My founder Keeya Naiser Amara married Christopher Steel.

I encountered a same "problem" as somebody (I don't remember exactly who ???) few pages ago. Keeya gave birth to twins. Fialka and Violette are adorable but I hope this is a last time that I have twins in my dynasty :) Maybe it has something to do with Keeya's family oriented trait?

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« Reply #938 on: September 28, 2010, 11:50:58 PM »
As follow-up to the discussion about npc's, yesterday my sim just married a babysitter she knew in high school. He became YA before she did, so the moment she became YA she invited him over, and used her wiles on him to marry her. I just now checked: she's just turned YA and he's 17 days from elder. But wow, he had such tempting traits! Only his LTW is impossible, Possession is 9/10 (Twinbrook), and he's got little time left. I've learned my lesson. She'd better get her traveling time in before he croaks!

And Pam thanks for explaining that it's not all babysitters or service sims, just the ones who don't live in the neighborhood. Now I'll know how to do a better background check ;D.
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« Reply #939 on: September 29, 2010, 09:27:08 AM »
I encountered a same "problem" as somebody (I don't remember exactly who ???) few pages ago. Keeya gave birth to twins. Fialka and Violette are adorable but I hope this is a last time that I have twins in my dynasty :) Maybe it has something to do with Keeya's family oriented trait?

Lenka, I was the one who posted about unwanted twins a few pages back.  And the twins' mother also had the family oriented trait.  I wonder if there's a pattern here.  Perhaps it would be best to avoid spouses with that trait, especially later in the game when twins could be a major problem.
 
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« Reply #940 on: September 29, 2010, 10:35:34 AM »
Lenka, I was the one who posted about unwanted twins a few pages back.  And the twins' mother also had the family oriented trait.  I wonder if there's a pattern here.  Perhaps it would be best to avoid spouses with that trait, especially later in the game when twins could be a major problem.

I find that highly unlikely. If there was any connection between the Family-Oriented trait and chance of twins/triplets, you would think there's some mention of that fact somewhere on the 'net. But, there's not. I'm not saying it doesn't exist. But, you'd think someone would have tested that theory out long ago. All I know is that Family-Oriented Sims skill their toddlers quicker and attend to their needs quicker. Aside from that — Pam probably knows more details — I really doubt FO has any impact on the chance of multiples.

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« Reply #941 on: September 29, 2010, 12:15:28 PM »
I'm not actually playing my Dynasty for scoring or anything, just for the fun, but I've come across a couple of questions that I can't find the answers to:

1) Once an immortal maxes out their career and reaches elder, can they retire? Or do they have to fill all ambrosia requirements before retiring? Or are they supposed to keep working forever?

2) What is the difference between a sim listed as a "Best Friend" and one listed as an "Old Friend"? Sometimes, it looks like the relationship bar is higher on some of the old friends than on some of the best friends - is it just a measure of how long they've been friends? I am terrible at the socializing part, so I am buying all my immortals the Long Distance Friend LTR, but I'm noticing that some Best Friends change to Old Friends anyway, so I don't *think* it's a decay.

3) Do you count "Best Friend" status when it's achieved, or do they have to have 6 unique best friends at the same time (say, if one of the best friends dies, do you have to start over with a new person)? Also - if another immortal becomes best friends with a sim already credited to a prior immortal, does that friend just not count for the younger sim or does that friend not count for either of them?

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« Reply #942 on: September 29, 2010, 12:20:41 PM »
I'm not actually playing my Dynasty for scoring or anything, just for the fun, but I've come across a couple of questions that I can't find the answers to:

1) Once an immortal maxes out their career and reaches elder, can they retire? Or do they have to fill all ambrosia requirements before retiring? Or are they supposed to keep working forever?

2) What is the difference between a sim listed as a "Best Friend" and one listed as an "Old Friend"? Sometimes, it looks like the relationship bar is higher on some of the old friends than on some of the best friends - is it just a measure of how long they've been friends? I am terrible at the socializing part, so I am buying all my immortals the Long Distance Friend LTR, but I'm noticing that some Best Friends change to Old Friends anyway, so I don't *think* it's a decay.

3) Do you count "Best Friend" status when it's achieved, or do they have to have 6 unique best friends at the same time (say, if one of the best friends dies, do you have to start over with a new person)? Also - if another immortal becomes best friends with a sim already credited to a prior immortal, does that friend just not count for the younger sim or does that friend not count for either of them?

1. I am not 100% certain of this answer, so will let someone that is answer it.
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3. I have this one.  They have to have 6 best friends before they can eat Ambrosia.  If one of their best friends dies before, then yes, you have to get another one.  Once a immortal has a best friend, say Holly Alto, no other possible immortal may count her as their best friend in order to eat Ambrosia.

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« Reply #943 on: September 29, 2010, 01:26:49 PM »
Wild correctly answered #3 for you, so I'll just hit #1 and #2:

1) Once an immortal maxes out their career and reaches elder, can they retire? Or do they have to fill all ambrosia requirements before retiring? Or are they supposed to keep working forever?

Yes, they can retire upon maxing a career. They do not need to work forever. It's simply the act of maxing a career that's the requirement to eat Ambrosia.

2) What is the difference between a sim listed as a "Best Friend" and one listed as an "Old Friend"? Sometimes, it looks like the relationship bar is higher on some of the old friends than on some of the best friends - is it just a measure of how long they've been friends? I am terrible at the socializing part, so I am buying all my immortals the Long Distance Friend LTR, but I'm noticing that some Best Friends change to Old Friends anyway, so I don't *think* it's a decay.

Look at your Relationships tab and you'll notice that friends are listed by friendship strength, left to right. So, if you've got Old Friends sandwiched right between Best Friends, you can be assured that the strength is high enough for your qualification. Even if an Old Friend is to right of a Best Friend, but to the left of a Good Friend, I'd say count it.

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« Reply #944 on: September 29, 2010, 02:52:33 PM »
Yes, they can retire upon maxing a career. They do not need to work forever. It's simply the act of maxing a career that's the requirement to eat Ambrosia.

Thanks for the clarification. My founder was SO OVER working pretty much the second she hit elder, so I let her retire, but then I was worried I did it wrong.


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« Reply #945 on: September 29, 2010, 03:16:55 PM »
Well, I end up with so many bugs and one actually ruin the game :( I didn't mind running around bug, standing while sleeping was annoying, refusing to use stairs was  ???, ice sculptures gone, all those plates and similar stuff stuck on hands, etc. but when they went to France and refuse to go home ??? I tried to use phone option to travel home, and they just go back to base camp. I waited for vacation to be over, I got the pop up, and nothing, time continue to count and I gave up whole day after vacation suppose to be over.

After this I decided to rest a little bit, but already have another dynasty idea in my mind. Anyway, I'll see about posting the story cause I feel really bad for not finishing it. I just can't believe how many bugs came up. I went through all adventures few times till now, and never had any problems with traveling, and now there is so many. When reading other people stories, I see it could get even worse. But I can't give up on WA, that is the best part of the game, at least for me.

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« Reply #946 on: September 29, 2010, 03:21:39 PM »
Sorry about all of your bugs, Anushka. :(  Good luck with your next Dynasty. You could use a smile so maybe check out the latest Man update I just made — apparent EA has indeed worked all all kinks in the game! ;)

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« Reply #947 on: September 29, 2010, 03:52:31 PM »
I did and remembered that my founder had the same wish weeks after getting married :D
Also, I couldn't buy anything from consignment shop last few sims week but I already had 2 cameras so that wasn't too big deal.
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« Reply #948 on: September 29, 2010, 05:35:50 PM »
Sorry if either of these has been asked before but.

1. Do Immortals that have already eaten their first lot of ambrosia have to maintain 6 unique friends, like do they have to get a new one each time one dies of old age before they're allowed to eat ambrosia again or is just a qualifying thing and if they end up as billy no mates later it doesn't matter?

2. Is a ghost an acceptable best friend? I mean if they're on the lot at the time and therefore actually visible in the relationship tab.

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« Reply #949 on: September 29, 2010, 05:40:14 PM »
1. Do Immortals that have already eaten their first lot of ambrosia have to maintain 6 unique friends, like do they have to get a new one each time one dies of old age before they're allowed to eat ambrosia again or is just a qualifying thing and if they end up as billy no mates later it doesn't matter?

Yes, it's only a one-time requirement for the first eating of Ambrosia.

2. Is a ghost an acceptable best friend? I mean if they're on the lot at the time and therefore actually visible in the relationship tab.

Very interesting question. It's okay with me. But, yeah, they'd literally have to be on the lot when your immortal was to eat Ambrosia the first time or they would vanish from the Relationships tab when leaving the lot, right? My ghost chops are not that great. Seems pretty risky to me.

 

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