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Re: The Sims 3 Immortal Dynasty Challenge
« Reply #950 on: September 29, 2010, 06:00:16 PM »
Very interesting question. It's okay with me. But, yeah, they'd literally have to be on the lot when your immortal was to eat Ambrosia the first time or they would vanish from the Relationships tab when leaving the lot, right? My ghost chops are not that great. Seems pretty risky to me.

I believe they do, but under the circumstances it's less risky than you'd think, given who the ghost in question is going to be.

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« Reply #951 on: September 29, 2010, 06:53:03 PM »
Yes, ghosts disappear from the relationship tab when they aren't haunting the lot.  So, like Metro said, your Sim would have to eat Ambrosia while the ghost is on the lot for it to count toward the Best Friend requirement.
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Re: The Sims 3 Immortal Dynasty Challenge
« Reply #952 on: September 29, 2010, 08:52:48 PM »
Story wise, I think that works for me. My founder's wife just pre-deceased him, she wasn't even an elder. On the plus side all her portraits just got more valuable, on the negative side I need need a new portrait painter ASAP.... Just to check, relatives / spouses do count for best friends? I've seen someone else list them in one of their stories and no one challenged it.

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« Reply #953 on: September 29, 2010, 09:37:53 PM »
@Aiwe:  How did she die?  Yes, spouses can count as a Best Friend.  Just be sure no other immortal in the household has them for a Best Friend.
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Re: The Sims 3 Immortal Dynasty Challenge
« Reply #954 on: September 30, 2010, 07:34:11 AM »
Burned to death sculpting, honest to goodness accident. I was only letting her sculpt metal to get the skill challenge that would increase the value of her sculptures, I've never actually had a sculptor set themselves on fire, I mean I knew it could happen, but I thought the chances were fairly slim if I kept an eye on her, and I WAS keeping an eye on her, I was even pausing the game when I went to deal with anyone not in visual range, but I wanted to tell Cence to banish a spirit, and like insects they don't show up unless you have the game un-paused for a second or so while the camera's in the right area. I went straight back to her, but she was already on fire, I sent her to extinguish herself in the shower, but even though she was right next to it she didn't make it before she turned to ash. I was pretty shell-shocked, saved and exited while Grim was still on the lot, not sure what I'm going to do without her actually.

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« Reply #955 on: September 30, 2010, 07:47:49 AM »
I haven't had anyone catch fire in my Dynasty yet.  I bought the fireproof homestead and now I wonder if that's keeping these tragic accidents from happening.
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Re: The Sims 3 Immortal Dynasty Challenge
« Reply #956 on: September 30, 2010, 09:06:19 AM »
I haven't had anyone catch fire in my Dynasty yet.  I bought the fireproof homestead and now I wonder if that's keeping these tragic accidents from happening.

I had three separate Sims of mine catch fire in my Dynasty although I have bought the fireproof homestead, but luckily I sent them to extinguish themselves in the shower and it worked.  I was really lucky, to be honest I cried all tree times. :'(  So sorry about your founder's wife  burned to death Aiwe. :(

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Re: The Sims 3 Immortal Dynasty Challenge
« Reply #957 on: September 30, 2010, 11:09:42 AM »
Woo! Quite the hullabaloo over the rules on this one!  I read through page 48 of the thread and then made my plan.

Conceptually, All Simortals will have the ability to be Athletic (They're Gods), Charismatic (They're Gods), Music (That's a gift from their mother, who is a Rock Goddess before she ascends), Cooking & Fishing (Bread and Fishes anyone?) and Photography (Look what we made, we're ... Oh you get the point) being all up for grabs for all in the Godly household.

First Simortal is the Mistress of Gardening
Second Simortal, Master of Painting
Third Immortal: Sculpting
Fourth Immortal: Handiness
Fifth Immortal: Martial Arts
Sixth Immortal: Nectar Making
Seventh Immortal: Inventing
Eighth Immortal: Writing

The only tricky part (other than the long, long play time) I foresee is watching people assisting with the Harvest, and gaining too much gardening skill, and making sure I stock up on Deathfish from the Godmother's first husband: a commercial fisherman.

Boris has been working hard at painting, just like dear old Dad.  I am unsure if we will get an Ice sculpture of the Founder in her Adult years, but I have *some* hopes that Dad will get there. It's not like his career matters.

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Edited after some thought, Logic is Optional for the gods, since I want them to be a contentious and rowdy bunch.







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Re: The Sims 3 Immortal Dynasty Challenge
« Reply #958 on: September 30, 2010, 11:22:26 AM »
I had three separate Sims of mine catch fire in my Dynasty although I have bought the fireproof homestead, but luckily I sent them to extinguish themselves in the shower and it worked.  I was really lucky, to be honest I cried all tree times. :'(  So sorry about your founder's wife  burned to death Aiwe. :(

I ending up crying last night as well, my partner thought I was being ridiculous, but I just felt I hadn't been looking after her well enough. It's taken me all day to get the courage to open the game save and carry on, but I just did and noticed that Grim is still there and playing chess. My founder is logic supermaxed, but he's still a fair distance away, I don't know if I can get him home and to the table in time to try and save Holly's soul, but he has the option... am I allowed to try?(I've saved and exited again while I wait for a rules clarification on this).

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« Reply #959 on: September 30, 2010, 11:39:48 AM »
I ending up crying last night as well, my partner thought I was being ridiculous, but I just felt I hadn't been looking after her well enough. It's taken me all day to get the courage to open the game save and carry on, but I just did and noticed that Grim is still there and playing chess. My founder is logic supermaxed, but he's still a fair distance away, I don't know if I can get him home and to the table in time to try and save Holly's soul, but he has the option... am I allowed to try?(I've saved and exited again while I wait for a rules clarification on this).

Nope. That falls under the umbrella of no life extending tricks at all. Just like you can't take Holly's remains to the Science Center for that Oh, My Ghost opportunity.

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« Reply #960 on: September 30, 2010, 01:12:41 PM »
Fair enough, I wasn't sure because it wasn't specifically mentioned in the first post (as it has been in some other challenge rule sets) and I was worried that NOT taking the action when I could might run afoul of the not expediting the deaths of mortals rule. On a similar topic is the unlucky trait restricted? I haven't seen anything that says so but now I'm not sure.

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« Reply #961 on: September 30, 2010, 01:17:53 PM »
On a similar topic is the unlucky trait restricted? I haven't seen anything that says so but now I'm not sure.

No traits are banned in this Dynasty Challenge. Unlucky saves a Sim from Grim only in the event of freak accidents — electrocution, etc. It's not a get out jail free card for simply dying of old age and that's exactly how your immortals' spouses need to pass on — old age — no other way. Intentionally setting up situations that result in an Unlucky Sim's death would be cheating.

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« Reply #962 on: September 30, 2010, 02:31:17 PM »
So you have to be careful about who helps out around the house because over time it's easy to reach 10 in a skill just by doing chores. Oh! And if they're all trying to make 6 best friends, you might have 8 immortals hovering at or near 10 in charisma, with no way to slow their progress!

In my earlier scenario I asked if this would be the case if Handy's special skill was handiness. Now, to be sure I'm getting this right, I'm asking if this would be the case even if Handy supermaxed gardening, plus he reached 10 in handiness:

"Drop that plunger and back away from the toilet! That's Handy's job and you're already a 9.".


Sorry for bringing up an old post by Pam, but yeah, I found this to be a very difficult challenge even though I use cheats to keep motives up! (Yes, I admit it and I don't care.) Charisma is my mainstay skill for finding spouses and friends, so I decided not to have Charisma be a SuperMaster skill in my dynasty so everyone can master it and get those best friends. I found the computer chat to help, but it takes so long so I just invite them over. My founder has made Sculpting his SuperMaster skill so we can get those ice Sim sculptures out of the way - no photos as we weren't able to get a camera in time for my founder's young adult photo, but I do ice Sims and this challenge is great since normal legacies won't work as the Ice Personality bonus doesn't carry over to a future Sim - all the dead Sim's ice Sims melt when he dies. :(

I exploit the "Non-immortal" loophole shamelessly, my founder's wife has mastered Fishing and Cooking but she's very old now so her second-born daughter is going to master all the Ambrosia skills and make Ambrosia until her nephew, the 3rd immortal, is born and gets Cooking, his SuperMaster Skill, mastered. By the time the aunt dies, she'll have made enough Ambrosia to keep her dad and sis(2nd immortal) young elders for a long time.  ;D

My SuperMaster skill list is: Sculpting, Fishing, Cooking, Painting, and Gardening and then the last three are my choice By that time, we're set with five immortals doing the work.

What's more difficult is the making best friends(can't buy Observant, Never Dull and Attractive for every immortal), buying the properties and upgrading them(I just upgraded the founder's first property and haven't the money for the 2nd) and opportunities! Yikes! :(

EDIT: Sorry if I made a mistake - it wasn't Pam who did that post.

Anyways, I wanted to add that Surrounded by Family should NEVER be a LTW in your dynasty or it will never get granted; I made my found have that and regret it forever. I had to cheat and murder two of his sons because their sister would have becoe close to elder and sterile by the time their mom died and made room for the next spouse and a kid and I like to have two kids in each generation. That's me. When I finish this and do a more proper Dynasty, I will avoid that LTW and make the founder(female) have a LTW connected to their Super Master skill like everyone else does.  :'(
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« Reply #963 on: September 30, 2010, 05:52:21 PM »
What's more difficult is the making best friends(can't buy Observant, Never Dull and Attractive for every immortal), buying the properties and upgrading them(I just upgraded the founder's first property and haven't the money for the 2nd) and opportunities! Yikes! :(

I don't see why you can't buy those three lifetime rewards for every immortal.  There are plenty of them to guarantee you have the unique ones required for the challenge and still have some that all of the immortals can have.
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« Reply #964 on: October 01, 2010, 01:01:12 AM »
I agree with Pam. You can buy those rewards for everyone, as long as they have three unique ones. I have things like fast metabolism and no jealousy slotted in for unique rewards down the line. Not that I really want those for anyone, but it leaves the better ones free for all to take.

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« Reply #965 on: October 01, 2010, 02:17:20 AM »

Sorry for bringing up an old post by Pam, but yeah, I found this to be a very difficult challenge even though I use cheats to keep motives up! (Yes, I admit it and I don't care.)


With this confession all other rules about your immortal dynasty are optional too ;).


 ..all the dead Sim's ice Sims melt when he dies. :(

Can you please explane what you mean about this? Do you mean that ones sculptor dies his ice statues melt, or ones mortal dies ice statues of that mortal melt?


I exploit the "Non-immortal" loophole shamelessly, my founder's wife has mastered Fishing and Cooking but she's very old now so her second-born daughter is going to master all the Ambrosia skills and make Ambrosia until her nephew, the 3rd immortal, is born and gets Cooking, his SuperMaster Skill, mastered. By the time the aunt dies, she'll have made enough Ambrosia to keep her dad and sis(2nd immortal) young elders for a long time.  ;D



I thought I understand it right but this makes me confused again, specially since in official rules it seems not so clear, so please Pam and Metro, once and for all, clear this mess with supermax skill, at least for me ;D
I understand that supermax skill must be unique for immortal and that none (mortal or non-mortal) can't max it. That mean that if founders wife (mortal) master cooking, no immortal can choose cooking as supermax skill.  Or is this quoted example OK and only immortals can't max other immortals supermax skill.


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« Reply #966 on: October 01, 2010, 02:22:02 AM »
With this confession all other rules about your immortal dynasty are optional too ;).

Can you please explain what you mean about this? Do you mean that ones sculptor dies his ice statues melt, or ones mortal dies ice statues of that mortal melt?


I thought I understand it right but this makes me confused again, specially since in official rules it seems not so clear, so please Pam and Metro, once and for all, clear this mess with supermax skill, at least for me ;D
I understand that supermax skill must be unique for immortal and that none (mortal or non-mortal) can't max it. That mean that if founders wife (mortal) master cooking, no immortal can choose cooking as supermax skill.  Or is this quoted example OK and only immortals can't max other immortals supermax skill.



Supermax skill is only unique for actual possible immortals.  Spouses and extra children can have whatever skills you want them to have.  So yes, the quoted example is correct.

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« Reply #967 on: October 01, 2010, 02:34:02 AM »
Thank you wildredchild, this makes it much easier than I thought! This means my mortal members can cook, fish and garden as much as they want and many other things too, this is great and less changeable than I understand. :D

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« Reply #968 on: October 01, 2010, 03:30:36 PM »
I am going to try for this one.
Never finished a legacy challenge with sims2
But I hope I will finish this Dynasty.

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« Reply #969 on: October 01, 2010, 04:18:04 PM »
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« Reply #970 on: October 02, 2010, 03:10:02 AM »
I guess we really are NOT supposed to be able to visit foreign lands with our dynasty, huh?  Ok, I know that's not a rule, it's just an aggravated observation based on how messed up my dynasty gets every darned time I try to visit a different country.  Fortunately I had saved before I left, which was a really good thing because this time the bug wouldn't even let me travel back home and ALL the people on my list of friends and relations were missing.  I really used to enjoy travel; not anymore.  I'm not just posting this so I can gripe about it, but to give a warning note to the new ones who are trying this challenge.  Be prepared to do without those fruits, recipes, and other goodies you can get while traveling, it's not worth the risk.
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Re: The Sims 3 Immortal Dynasty Challenge
« Reply #971 on: October 02, 2010, 05:41:57 AM »
Hi guys, this is my first post and I'm not really sure how to post and stuff, so we'll see if it makes it to the thread.  ;D
Anyway, I was thinking that maybe you could also allow the cheat PlaceFriezes on/off to the Dynasty Challenge because it's just a building cheat just like moveobjects on/off is. The cheat PlaceFriezes on/off allows you to add foundations above ground which doesn't really do anything gameplay-wise to the challenge other than making the lots more original.

Hope you consider this.  :)
I've been lurking around her for a little while and it seems that punctuation and spelling is very very important. I hope this post doesn't have many grammatical mistakes.


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« Reply #972 on: October 02, 2010, 05:51:28 AM »
Welcome to our Forum, Choccolatee!  Your post and grammar is fine, so please don't fret over it.  :)

I've never heard of the PlaceFriezes on/off cheat.  But if it's just a building thing built into the game, I don't see why it would be a problem if Metro agrees.  We just don't want any cheats that would make the gameplay of the Dynasty invalid. 

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Re: The Sims 3 Immortal Dynasty Challenge
« Reply #973 on: October 02, 2010, 06:00:54 AM »
Well, I do love spelling.  ;D

The PlaceFriezes on/off cheat was included with the Ambitions expansion pack, or the patch that came with it. I'm not really sure.
It only adds foundations above the foundation or flooring. I've seen many videos that feature a "foundation" roof and its really cool. Nothing harmful to the gameplay. Just decoration and stuff.

I might play this challenge in the summer holidays. Right now its the September/October holidays. I live in Australia, and go to school, so we have holidays in December to January (6 weeks), April (2 weeks), July (2 weeks), and September/October (2 weeks). I've already wasted an entire holiday week on lurking on these forums, Facebooking, and other Internet stuff. I really have to start my homework soon. So I'll probably start this challenge next holidays.  ;D

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« Reply #974 on: October 02, 2010, 06:11:48 AM »
Welcome to the forum Choccolatee.  If you start a dynasty, it is very addictive and you will find everything you need to know on this forum.

@Joria.  I have decided not to travel in this dynasty.  It is killing me, but I just can't take the risk.  I love my family tree and I believe that is the whole backbone of a dynasty or legacy.  I know it sounds silly, because you can keep track on paper, but the flirting was not setting right with me either, so call me old fashioned, but travelling for me this time is not an option.  If I was allowed to save it before vacation, leave, come back and see if anything happens, then restart if something gets glitched, I would do that, but I thought you could not do that in the dynasty.
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