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Long Loads: How to Shorten Them?
« on: September 30, 2010, 07:22:20 PM »
Does the number of items and patterns downloaded increase the load time of a particular saved game file? Or does that affect the game loading prior to the Main Menu?

With a generational legacy game, the loading of that save file (newly-named each save) appears to take longer, the more generations I've gotten to.

I'd like to have quicker loads, but don't want to delete a bunch of stuff if that's not going to make a significant impact. Is there some trick, like maybe saving and evicting the household and their house and then re-placing them on the lot that will compress the file size?

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Re: Long Loads: How to Shorten Them?
« Reply #1 on: September 30, 2010, 09:51:37 PM »
I feel right with you on this one. My Dynasty file takes absolutely forever to save back to the desktop — probably a full minute. And it takes a long time to open as well. Nothing can be done about it I'm guessing. There's just more information that needs to be processed as you get deeper and deeper into generations. Think about everything going on in the neighborhood too — more and more and more Sims are added. All of that needs to be somehow saved.



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Re: Long Loads: How to Shorten Them?
« Reply #2 on: September 30, 2010, 10:14:54 PM »
I thought I'd read that the file size compresses or cleans up by moving them out and back, but I'm afraid of interrupting opportunity chains, relationships, etc.
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Re: Long Loads: How to Shorten Them?
« Reply #3 on: October 01, 2010, 01:57:38 AM »
I thought I'd read that the file size compresses or cleans up by moving them out and back, but I'm afraid of interrupting opportunity chains, relationships, etc.

I don't know how true that is, but I wouldn't risk it on my Dynasty file.
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Re: Long Loads: How to Shorten Them?
« Reply #4 on: October 01, 2010, 02:06:41 AM »
I think it all depends on how big or long you have had a game, I can tell you that the Characters take forever.
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Re: Long Loads: How to Shorten Them?
« Reply #5 on: October 01, 2010, 07:08:09 AM »
I agree, my large game files and especially my dynasty, takes a long time to load and takes a while when I save it.  It took so long the other day to save, I almost paniced. lol
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Re: Long Loads: How to Shorten Them?
« Reply #6 on: October 02, 2010, 05:56:54 AM »
Just another bit of information for everyone...  the larger your game file, the more chance you're going to have the Error 12, 13, or 16 crashes, too.  I've started having them in my Dynasty file now.  I always start getting those errors in files that I've been playing for a long time.  They happen when you try to save and there's nothing to be done about it.  You just have to quit without saving and reload your game.  It's incredibly frustrating, let me tell you!  Be sure to save often so that when it does happen, you won't lose as much of your play time. 

It also seems like the game will crash to desktop more often as the files get bigger.  I've had to replay the last bits of my Dynasty game two, three, or even sometimes four times because of crashes or because the save didn't take. 

Even though we can't prevent these issues, better to know ahead of time that they are likely to happen and try to take precautions with extra saves!  :)
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Re: Long Loads: How to Shorten Them?
« Reply #7 on: October 02, 2010, 06:05:03 AM »
I had that happen last night.  Had played for quite some time and really had not saved it for a while.  I decided to save and left the room, when I came back, it was back to desktop and I lost a couple of sim days, which is not too bad, so just will have to remember to save more often and shut the computer down after a few hours of playing.  I had only been playing for 8 hours yesterday, gee, wonder why it shut down, lol. ;D

I decided to play another game for a while and it did not take that game long to load at all.
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Re: Long Loads: How to Shorten Them?
« Reply #8 on: October 02, 2010, 09:23:47 AM »
Does the number of items and patterns downloaded increase the load time of a particular saved game file? I'd like to have quicker loads, but don't want to delete a bunch of stuff if that's not going to make a significant impact.

Yes, my Dynasty takes longer and longer to load.  Going back to LlamaMama's post, would it help to delete some of the unnecessary stuff?  Does anyone know?
 
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Re: Long Loads: How to Shorten Them?
« Reply #9 on: October 02, 2010, 11:21:57 AM »
Yes, my Dynasty takes longer and longer to load.  Going back to LlamaMama's post, would it help to delete some of the unnecessary stuff?  Does anyone know?

I certainly would think so. The more objects on a lot, the more memory and resources it takes to draw all of those and it would certainly affect save/load times.

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Re: Long Loads: How to Shorten Them?
« Reply #10 on: October 02, 2010, 01:20:21 PM »
I'd like to remind people that every time you delete a bunch of stuff, or install a stuff pack or expansion, be sure you clean up your hard drive and defrag. I highly recommend Auslogics BoostSpeed software for superior Windows maintenance and optimization.
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Re: Long Loads: How to Shorten Them?
« Reply #11 on: October 02, 2010, 04:01:49 PM »
I'd like to remind people that every time you delete a bunch of stuff, or install a stuff pack or expansion, be sure you clean up your hard drive and defrag. I highly recommend Auslogics BoostSpeed software for superior Windows maintenance and optimization.

Exactly what I use: Auslogic BoostSpeed. Registry Cleanup, disk cleanup, disk defragmentation, it al leads to a perfect working system, softwarematically speaking of course.

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Re: Long Loads: How to Shorten Them?
« Reply #12 on: October 02, 2010, 07:15:08 PM »
I have played the same game file since I got The Sims 3, I have never had any error, and my game only crashed if it was because of a PC overheat.

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My game takes literally (and proved) 10 minutes to load from the main menu to the game, and 10-15 minutes to "save and quit".

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Re: Long Loads: How to Shorten Them?
« Reply #13 on: October 02, 2010, 08:49:17 PM »
I'd like to remind people that every time you delete a bunch of stuff, or install a stuff pack or expansion, be sure you clean up your hard drive and defrag. I highly recommend Auslogics BoostSpeed software for superior Windows maintenance and optimization.
Is this free? Will you ever have to pay for it? It usually takes about 5-10 minutes for the main menu to the in-game to load.

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Re: Long Loads: How to Shorten Them?
« Reply #14 on: October 02, 2010, 09:10:22 PM »
Is this free? Will you ever have to pay for it? It usually takes about 5-10 minutes for the main menu to the in-game to load.

You can get a 14 day free trial, but after that it's around US$50.00 to purchase it.  I'm giving serious thought to buying it.  From what I read on their site, it does a lot more than I'm able to do on my own.  It might be worth it.
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Re: Long Loads: How to Shorten Them?
« Reply #15 on: October 02, 2010, 10:24:44 PM »
I like Auslogics BoostSpeed so much that after 18 months, I've just paid again to upgrade, voluntarily. All the utilities are far better than the ones that come with Windows, and give you as much or as little control as you want.

Edit to add: I don't know for sure how much it helps, but I regularly clear out the screenshots and save folders. The screenshots can be copied into a folder that's not in the game folder, and same with all but the most recent saves. I have literally hundreds of TS3 save files elsewhere on my hard drive, but they don't bog down my game as they probably would if kept in the Saves file.
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Re: Long Loads: How to Shorten Them?
« Reply #16 on: October 02, 2010, 11:16:38 PM »
Edit to add: I don't know for sure how much it helps, but I regularly clear out the screenshots and save folders. The screenshots can be copied into a folder that's not in the game folder, and same with all but the most recent saves. I have literally hundreds of TS3 save files elsewhere on my hard drive, but they don't bog down my game as they probably would if kept in the Saves file.

I think this does help.  I keep my screenshots cleaned out, too, and save them on my hard drive.
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Re: Long Loads: How to Shorten Them?
« Reply #17 on: October 03, 2010, 04:27:12 PM »
Is this free? Will you ever have to pay for it? It usually takes about 5-10 minutes for the main menu to the in-game to load.

There is also a free version without timelimit use. Shall I PM you with detailed information?

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Re: Long Loads: How to Shorten Them?
« Reply #18 on: October 04, 2010, 07:51:39 AM »
There is also a free version without timelimit use. Shall I PM you with detailed information?
No, Thanks. I'm just using the method of deleting the DCBackup folder files to speed it up. But thank you though!

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Re: Long Loads: How to Shorten Them?
« Reply #19 on: October 04, 2010, 02:38:24 PM »
No, Thanks. I'm just using the method of deleting the DCBackup folder files to speed it up. But thank you though!

What do the DCBackup files do?
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Re: Long Loads: How to Shorten Them?
« Reply #20 on: October 04, 2010, 04:21:50 PM »
Rockinrobin posted a thread on the DCbackup files, have a look HERE.
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Re: Long Loads: How to Shorten Them?
« Reply #21 on: October 04, 2010, 05:01:41 PM »
That's good to know. Can we empty the Downloads folder?
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Re: Long Loads: How to Shorten Them?
« Reply #22 on: October 04, 2010, 05:39:16 PM »
That's good to know. Can we empty the Downloads folder?

Only if you want to lose all of your downloads from the store and whatnot.

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Re: Long Loads: How to Shorten Them?
« Reply #23 on: October 04, 2010, 05:53:59 PM »
Sounds obvious, right? I just thought maybe once installed, they didn't need to be saved there. Thanks for the info.
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« Reply #24 on: October 05, 2010, 11:56:03 AM »
Sounds obvious, right? I just thought maybe once installed, they didn't need to be saved there. Thanks for the info.

Naa, they must been saved somewhere. I thought first only in the savefiles with the according lots I've placed them on. But I was wrong.