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Rate the Sims 4
« on: September 21, 2014, 04:59:25 PM »
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Taking a day off from guide-writing, I saw some threads ranting on The Sims 4 at the official Forum. In response, I've written an article about hatred in gaming particularly as it affects franchises. Ranking or reviewing games (or any other product) as a user is to help guide others who are considering purchasing it. Yet, non-owners vote on retailers' sites and review sites in order to attempt to discredit or protest against games like The Sims 4. This is a relatively new phenomenon that is affecting the gaming industry.

People who love the franchise put a negative mark on the new game, making it more likely to fail, and they do this out of a love for the past titles. This can skew results permanently. Look at the difference in my article between Amazon.com, a frequent target of this type of protest, and Best Buy - which has more game owners reviewing the title. Notice the crazy amount of 1-star votes that Diablo 3 received when they had server trouble the first few days after launch. Only research and the opinions of other owners can help you decide if a game is right for you.

I believe that only owners of games should vote or review them, because if they have not played them, they do not know how enjoyable a game truly is. There are pros and cons to the Sims 4. Therefore,

Please only vote if you own the game!

No ranting here - if you want to give it a low score, just do so. If you'd like to give a balanced opinion, that would be welcome. Rants will be deleted without notice.

Many people will skip my big article, but here's one of the main points:


Amazon.com users voting without owning the game



Best Buy users who own the title reviewing The Sims 4


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« Reply #1 on: September 21, 2014, 05:11:17 PM »
Once I got myself out of the mind set of comparing Sims 4 to Sims 3 and just looking at it as a total new and separate game I finding that I'm loving it more every time I play it. 
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« Reply #2 on: September 21, 2014, 05:17:01 PM »
I did the same thing. And I love it! And I do know that it can only get better

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« Reply #3 on: September 21, 2014, 05:19:54 PM »
You are right Grim, I was bad to compare the two games.  And once I quit doing that, then it was even more enjoyable.  Even with the "demon babies". lol 

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« Reply #4 on: September 21, 2014, 05:22:33 PM »
I'm doing my best to give it a fair chance. I keep reminding myself that this is a base game, and I really can't compare it to playing Sims 3 with all of the expansion packs. I'm bored already, though. My Sim met another Sim and they were wearing the exact same outfit, colors and all. I wish the neighborhoods were a little bigger - I would rather have had one large world with more empty lots than two small worlds. Not caring much for the screen loading, either - but the multi-tasking is awesome, and the word searchable catalog in Build/Buy is stellar. I really, really miss CASt, too. Hopefully I'll like it better the more I play.

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« Reply #5 on: September 21, 2014, 05:25:37 PM »
I totally agree with grimsoul . In my opinion , both game are very different and should be treated that way . I've been playing since I received my copy and I love . I love how our new sims interact with each other instead of just looking like robots . I have absolutely nothing negative to say about the Sims4 . I'm very anxious to get expansion , new worlds and stuff packs if this is the way they are still going to release things . Plus , can't wait for their store to open . I have no regets in purchasing this game .  :)
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« Reply #6 on: September 21, 2014, 05:26:32 PM »
I think it's a solid game with a lot of fun animations and some unpredictability which is good in a sims game. There are a lot of careers and aspirations to explore and managing a large household can be a challenge, which I think is good. Not everything should be easy in gaming ;)

The reason I don't think it's a 5 is that the "sky is the limit" feeling is missing for me. I think that the idea of making things un-lockable and giving sims and their watchers hoops to jump through to complete milestones, career advancement, unlocking objects and so on are great, but not true to a sandbox style game play. That does not mean I don't enjoy those aspects of the game, but the inability to both have things to achieve and to just play without caring about those things are what makes this a 4 rather than a 5 in my book.





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« Reply #7 on: September 21, 2014, 05:27:16 PM »
I did go with a 3 as I stated in my article - this is not meant to mean a 60% or a D, but rather that I feel it's about average. I have experienced enough bugs to frustrate me, but I have dug into gameplay mechanics a lot more than the average player.

However, I do know we'll get a big patch that will address a lot of the bugs I've experienced, if not all. I am certain they are not going to leave skills broken, so will change my vote to a 4 at that time. There are things missing, but also a better base for future expansions that we expect as Sims players. It is only going to get better, and I'm happy with the performance on my PC. No lag whatsoever.

I have allowed people to change their vote on this Poll, as with time we will see improvements and people may feel differently. Guests may also vote, which is not something we typically do. This is so that visitors to the Sims 4 Guide can have a chance to vote if they'd like to. It should not harm results since if they're visiting that site, they likely own the game :)

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« Reply #8 on: September 21, 2014, 05:28:54 PM »
I just don't like the game. It was a letdown for me. In a few years after more expansions come im sure I'll love it. But for now I agree with Saltpastillen, I'm really missing the sky's the limit feeling.

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« Reply #9 on: September 21, 2014, 05:48:59 PM »
I edited the first post to show what sort of influenced me to make this poll, so that people don't have to read my rant about ranting and bad votes. Amazon is one of my go-tos for shopping, but they seriously need to alter their practices at least when it comes to games. It's franchises that end up treated this way, along with single player games with online-only requirements that people want to protest.  >:(

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« Reply #10 on: September 21, 2014, 06:19:03 PM »
I never played into The Sims series before, so I don't know what people look into the series. But, as the 'commoner' for the series and a newcomer myself, I never expected one thing: I really enjoyed it myself, I love it and it’s so addictive. I thought that The Sims just likes a doll house, and I admit that I’m wrong, it’s more than that. 

There lot of things to offer. The Sims franchise was well known as virtual life simulation and when I try myself, there’s more than that. You can be a storyteller, you can hone your photography skill, you also can be an interior designer, architecture even The Sims could be a stress relief for some people, creating the life that they’re truly want and they couldn't achieve it in reality. 

I never look into people review seriously before I try it myself.  People maybe have a higher expectation for the series and people have disappointment through the past series. I think they should move on, because this is a brand new series even there’s element that they carry over in this new game. But, c'mon no one could really please anyone. No one is perfect either. I think if people don’t like it, at least say something for their improvements.

Making game is not easy either, especially for maintain a good brand image the long running series. I think this game is a good start and this game has lot of things to offer in the future. I bet there's something more because this is just a base game. I hear that if this game is not successful, there will be no The Sims 5. I think that’s not good news for me as I’m still curious into what The Sims 4 could offer. 

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« Reply #11 on: September 21, 2014, 07:03:58 PM »
While I do miss some of the features from The Sims 3, I am honestly enjoying The Sims 4 a lot more. TS3's base game was a bit dull for me and the TS4 base game just feels livelier and more "complete" in comparison. Of course there are some frustrating bugs that still need to be fixed and features I miss- that's why I only gave it 4 stars for now. But overall I'm satisfied with it.

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« Reply #12 on: September 21, 2014, 08:20:56 PM »
I wrote a review on Amazon, which has received a lot of down-votes, presumably by those set on hating the game, since I believe I was fairly thorough in my commentary. I'll happily say that I gave the game 5 stars, both here on Carl's and on Amazon.

As to what I like the most about this game, I appreciate that The Sims 4 presents a greater challenge than The Sims 3, and I believe that it is truer to the roots of the game (dating back to The Sims 2 and even the OG). Once again, this is a game and it is meant to be played with a challenge in mind, not mastered immediately so that we move on to the next great big thing. I feel as though The Sims 4 has given me enough to discover between now and the first expansion pack that I won't get bored between now and then, and I could never say that for TS3.

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« Reply #13 on: September 21, 2014, 08:30:36 PM »
I love this game. And I'm expecting better things to come with expansions packs and stuff. When I started playing it, I didn't have any expectations that it will be the same as TS3. I saw TS4 as a separate game and thus enjoyed it thoroughly! I have never been a builder in all other sims games. But in TS4, I surprised myself with the homes I could create with just the base game. I wait with bated breath for the next installments.

Although, I gave TS4 a rating of 4, as the loading time can sometimes be long especially when accessing the gallery or library. It might be due to the number of items in my library. Nonetheless, I'm more than satisfied with game. *Thumbs up!*

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« Reply #14 on: September 21, 2014, 08:38:10 PM »
I'm afraid that at this point, I can only consider Sims 4 average and gave it a 3 (though I figure 3.5 would be more accurate).  It is not a bad game by any stretch, but too many features were not included that many, including me, figure should have been in there from the start.  I admit I'm a bit biased having gone through all the iterations from Sims 1 onward, and if one looks at just the base game, there were solid improvements/offerings for each iteration.  I'm positive as patches are made, and expansions come out, my own personal score will go up as well. 

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« Reply #15 on: September 21, 2014, 09:56:18 PM »
I'm afraid that I'm not really enjoying the game. The gameplay improvement from the last game is good, though, but it's become more TS2-like and I miss open worlds from TS3, and there are some annoying bugs. I stopped playing the game while waiting for expansion packs coming out.

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« Reply #16 on: September 21, 2014, 10:50:05 PM »
I actually tried playing sims3 with no expansion pack, then sims4 afterwards just to get a feel.  I voted 3 stars average, but just like Bri 3.5 would be more accurate.  I believe a lot of people out there are comparing sims3 with 11 expansion packs to sims4 with no expansion pack, that is just not a fair comparison. 

I am definitely okay with not having open world if that makes my gameplay smoother.  Sims3 became so frustrating to play with the open world routing / lag issues, constant global resetsim was needed, cars piled up everyday in town, 100 proprietors piling up in the park, etc.  Sure, there is still routing issues in sims4 right now, but I feel that those routing issues can be fixed easily and will not escalate with the addition of expansion pack in the future.

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« Reply #17 on: September 21, 2014, 11:15:31 PM »
I've rated it as a 3 at this point as I'm struggling a bit with the controls, but I fully expect that I'll get more used to them as time goes on. I'm pleased I purchased it as I really do want to give it a fair go. Once I get more used to the controls, I'm sure my rating of it will go to a 4 and beyond.

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« Reply #18 on: September 21, 2014, 11:16:00 PM »
I saw a lot of the same kind of haters when The Elder Scrolls released the online game. Every forum you had to trudge through troll posts just to get to the interesting stuff.

Before playing, I'd have voted 2 or 3, but since playing, I've given it a 4.

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« Reply #19 on: September 22, 2014, 01:08:32 AM »
Well I am loving it.  It might help that I have had quite a long break from sims for the past couple of years so I am approaching Sims 4 without recent memories of Sims 3.  I am enjoying it for what it offers and not pining for what is different or missing.  To me, the point of a new game in a series is that it will offer new ways of doing old things.

I don't see the point in the vitriolic posts on other forums and I don't bother reading them.   In the end, it is a game and not a way of life.  Like it or leave it but don't bore me senseless with negativity. :P

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« Reply #20 on: September 22, 2014, 01:44:54 AM »
I had to give it a 2. I really don't enjoy it. I usually play for creating families. I feel like that is lacking. Where are the toddlers!? Maybe in an x-pack. not having a family tree bugs me. I just got the game yesterday, so maybe once I get use to it I'll like it better. I just don't care much for the "anime" look of the sims' avatar. I'm not sure what you call it. I feel like it was made for more of a console than a PC.

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« Reply #21 on: September 22, 2014, 02:29:40 AM »
I'm enjoying it more than I first did, but not loving it. A great game for me is one that I can't wait to play when I have free time, or stay up way later than I should because I want to keep playing. Haven't found that with this game. I've had free time today and I thought "Will I play Sims? Nahhhh, maybe later". I find that I spend too much time making all my sims needs met and with good emotions, and doing all the stuff they need for their careers. I HATE how when a sim goes somewhere, the sims left on the home lot have the "care for self" etc option. I think it stems from the fact that the console version was like that, and even if they did "care for self", you'd come home and all their needs would be in the red anyway.
I do love the new multitasking and how the sims seem to have more personality, and the funny and quirky things they do depending on their mood. I love the new build mode, even though I am struggling with some aspects of it. I love how I can move a whole house. Nothing worse than building in sims 3 and realizing you should have built further forward in the yard etc.

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« Reply #22 on: September 22, 2014, 02:31:01 AM »
Of all the Sims games, it's my favorite to play.

4 out of 5… there's some design mistakes (no way to edit tattoos in game? Wot?) but the performance and new gameplay still make it the best experience for me.

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« Reply #23 on: September 22, 2014, 02:42:30 AM »
I really like this game. I feel I can get into my Sims again. I am a Sims player since 2000. In Sims 2 I'd get so attached to them that when they died off I couldn't play for awhile. After all they felt like family.  In Sims 3 I'd  build , buy, and create new Sims more than playing the game itself. They can be a bore and so robotic. Now we have #4, and I'm excited. The interactions are great, and I feel a lot more great stuff is on the way. I gave this game a 4 rating, because of the new controls, and the game is a little sparse, but after all it's the base game.

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« Reply #24 on: September 22, 2014, 03:00:51 AM »
Good article Carl! I agree with many points you made. I will say that I feel like most gamers now a days could care less about ratings because we all know they are filled with biased opinions. The only people who really care about ratings aren't true gamers. We all have those titles we love but everyone hates and well that's just a normal gamer for you. With new games the killer is the hype and lack of information. Everything is speculative so then people are left to run with their imagination which only causes them to be left down.

I gave the Sims 4 a rating of 4. I based my opinion from the bugs that were present weren't things I think are due to lack of testing rather than normal bugs that aren't typically found. The base game has a good setup for future game play. I find the interactions very entertaining to watch. Load times are quick even with loading screens that I don't mind waiting (most the time with load screens I walk away and return). There are many options and paths I have still yet to explore and daily come up with an interaction or situation I haven't seen yet. I rarely give things a 5 rating but that is only because in my mind 5 is perfection and nothing is ever perfect :D

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« Reply #25 on: September 22, 2014, 03:35:19 AM »
I vacillated between giving a 4 and 5. Maybe I'm a glass half-full kind of guy, but I'm more impressed with what we can do than what we can't. And the bits that are missing don't affect the game mechanics. I really liked Sims 3, but Sims 4 is a better game in every way. It's better at giving you challenges, and at rewarding you for that. The strength of a Sims game shouldn't be measured solely in number of hairstyles, or whether you can apply a maple wood texture to an evening suit.
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« Reply #26 on: September 22, 2014, 03:59:03 AM »
I wonder how many people remember the reactions when the sims 3 first came out.  So many people were complaining that there wasn't as much content as the sims 2, not enough hair styles, not enough clothing choices, no magic etc etc.  It's like the same thing all over again.  Personally I think it's a great game, but those who are complaining should have a think back to when TS3 first came out.  We really shouldn't be comparing 4 with 3, but at least try and remember 3 without all the expansions.
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« Reply #27 on: September 22, 2014, 07:05:00 AM »
I gave it 5 stars because I really do love the game and think it will only get better with expansions.  I understand that it was necessary to go back to the loading screens and a small neighborhood, etc. in order to make the rendering of the game better.  We all remember how bad Sims 3 was for loading times, lagging, and just not running well.  The thing is, we can't have both a consistently smooth running game and the open world concept.  Not right now, anyway, and not with the computers that most of us own.  I'm totally ok with this.  If I miss something from Sims 3, I'll just go play Sims 3.  Sims 4 doesn't have to compete with Sims 3 for my affection.  I love them both.  I'm playing the new Carina Dreamweaver now and I adore her!  She is as cute as can be, and she's married and having children with Don Lothario.  What more could I want?  :D
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« Reply #28 on: September 22, 2014, 10:02:05 AM »
I'm glad I'm not the only one who watched the 1 star ratings pile up at Amazon. When I wrote my review I urged people to read reviews from verified purchase writers.  It bothered me to see so many rants from people who were obviously there to smear the game, not actually review it.


In your poll I gave the same rating as I did on Amazon.  Three stars.  I think it's probably because I was expecting a lot from these little digital people. Many, if not most, of the missing features didn't bother me and I was looking at the game as a new game not a sequel.

What does bother me is that I don't think the Sims themselves live up to the pre-game hype. For me building, CAS and all the other parts of the game come in second to the actual game play and the Sims.  I honestly don't think the Sims are remarkably smarter. Or for that matter, weirder. But like I said, maybe I was expecting too much.

The things I do like are build mode,CAS and the overall look of the game.

The things I don't like are Sims that don't seem to be actually smarter than TS3 Sims. For all the hype about emotions I find a glaring lack of them at times.

And.....I think there is less sandbox play available. There are a lot of goals to reach and the unlockable content bothers me.

It somehow feels unfinished to me. It's not the lack of content that will come later in EPs because I do think the base game did come with a lot.  It's little things like after a Sim dies there is just that urn, finished, done, over with. The lack of a town "feel" bothers me. It's not the loading screens and small towns but things like the lack of  bookstores and no grocery stores.

Overall it could be just me and the fact that I'm pretty disappointed with the actual Sim psyche.






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« Reply #29 on: September 22, 2014, 10:36:15 AM »
To be honest i was a little disappointed with it, as i was hoping for a step up in realistic graphics, from Sims 3. I already played sims 2 years ago and Sims 4 just screams Sims2. I don't want a version of a game i had already. I feel they compromised so much, to give us the multi task feature which  i really didn't care about . It seems there is not much to do in the game at all and i became bored quite quickly. Having said that the base game cc is beautiful and fashionable so i am having fun creating my own cc for it. If you would like to check out my cc  you can visit my blog :) margiessims.blogspot.ie

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« Reply #30 on: September 22, 2014, 11:30:13 AM »
I'm very much enjoying Sims 4.  Not that it doesn't have it's faults, but I'm finding something new each day - little things but they make it all so much richer.  The multitasking is really wonderful and I love seeing what all I can get them doing at once.  For those who are saying they're bored already, I'm wondering if they've really delved into all the aspirations.  If I have a couple that I'm playing and they have kids, then I'm usually working on 3-4 aspirations at once.  It's quite a challenge.  When you count the tasks for aspirations and for careers, there's a lot to accomplish.  I can't wait to see what they bring out in expansions to build on the base game which has a surprising amount of objects - particularly in the decorations.  I used to despair with paintings in EA basegame Sims 3, even with some expansion additions.  Sims 4 actually came out with a wide variety and what I'm able to make with painting is just astounding.  Throw some parties and see how you do on the medals.  I have a male friend who's playing sims 4 and decided to have his sim couple get married.  He picked the park but hadn't thought about the cake or the venue or anything.  Needless to say, he failed and they didn't even get married.  I told him to consider it a rehearsal dinner LOL.  And the next time, he'd be prepared (haven't talked to him yet to see how to second went).  The tasks make it more fun for me rather than just setting up pretty screenshots (btw, I posted my version of the Magnolia Blossom Park including a wedding 'room' - feel free to add it to your game if you're looking for a ready made venue - you'll need to remove two hedge fencing pieces to open it to the public.  I keep mine blocked off to keep regular park visitors from leaving it a mess! - search #dellena).  There seems to be a lot of thought in the interactions.  I noticed that people who live in my own neighbourhood offer new interactions like "Discuss current property values."  It's the little things that made it more real to me.  Like my couple sitting on the couch chatting and she's hungry, so I queue up to get a quick meal.  She keeps chatting to hubby while going in the kitchen, getting the yogurt, and then returning to the couch to keep chatting.  Just like my husband and I do all the time! LOL  It's all these little things.

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« Reply #31 on: September 22, 2014, 12:20:08 PM »
What irks me are the ones that try to compare 3 to 4 and you just can't do that.  That's like comparing Ford Pinto Wagon to a Ford Shelby Cobra.  Sure both cars can get you from point A but if you want to get their fast well then....I also like to know how many of these people who gripe how bad 4 is if they are the ones that started out when Sims 3 first released.  It took Sims 3 five years to get to where it is and I'll admit Maxis ended that series with a bang with the Future pack.  This game has been out for only a couple of weeks.  Sure it has bugs, and it loads to "dang" often, and if its not this then its the other thing.  Also, those who were expecting the game play to be just like 3 but with only a lot better graphics and smarter sims you'll even grow tired faster of the game.  It's like putting a Ford Pinto Wagon's engine under the hood of a Ford Shelby Cobra.  Sure it looks like a Cobra but its going to move like a Pinto.  I give this game 4 out of 5 myself cause of the bugs.  I actually like it a little better cause to me it seems like the needs are better in 4 than in 3.  Anyways, I can't wait to see what the first xpac going to be like.

There is one thing I find kinda annoying and that is when you go into changing a part of town and decide to build a new gym or bar or whatever that you still can't get access to everything and at least when doing commercial property they at least unlock for that.  But oh well.

As for 3 I was really getting extremely tired at the constant slow downs on my system.  How I had to constantly clean stuff out or back it up or even delete some of the stuff.  But to coin Stan Lee.....NUFF SAID!

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« Reply #32 on: September 22, 2014, 12:50:05 PM »
I went back and forth about this before I voted.  There are some areas that I would rate a 4 or 5.  I think it is an awesome game in itself.  I probably gave it a 3 because of the bugs, like Carl said.  That doesn't mean that the game is not good.  I love the emotions and the little things the sims do while talking or doing certain things.  I was also one of the people that really got kind of angry when they kept telling us what they were leaving out, but like other members have said about a new game is the only way to think about it.  It is impossible to compare sims3 and all EP's to sims4.  I was fortunate enough not to have a lot of the issues with sims3 as some people have had and to be honest, I have not had any of the issues with sims4 as others are having, now that being said, I will now, lol.  The only things that I have happen is the fork issue staying in the hand, but not very long and of course the plant glitch with the grafting.  All in all, it is a good game and I have not gave a review yet on Amazon, but I intend to.

Edit:  Spoke to soon.  Seems I started having vanishing sims, so if I was to rate it now, it would drop to a 2.  Oh well, back to sims3.
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Re: Rate the Sims 4
« Reply #33 on: September 22, 2014, 01:29:53 PM »
I gave The Sims 4 a 4 vote. The game feels like a breath of fresh air after The Sims 3 began bogging down from expansion after expansion and requiring ever more computing power to run the game with everything and the supporting "necessary" mods. While I like the open neighborhoods from The Sims 3, I didn't realize how much I missed the lot-focused gameplay from The Sims 1 and 2. To me, The Sims 4 strikes a good balance between completely open neighborhoods and lot-focused gameplay by offering focused micro-neighborhoods that are open for exploration.

I've had some pretty good experiences so far with the emotion system. I tend to play "goody-goody" Sims, so most have been experiencing Happy, Enthused, Energized, etc. However, they do experience Uncomfortable and Extremely Uncomfortable when I neglect their needs too much. I haven't really had any of them get too angry or embarrassed yet, though that may change for one of my Sims as he's currently trying to romance a cute red-headed townie, heh.

While I've had the game since launch, I haven't "played" much of the game yet. I tend to focus more on the building aspect of the game. Therefore, I haven't run into the skill bugs others have mentioned. On the other hand, I'm really enjoying the new building tools. I'm currently doing some remakes of houses from The Sims 3, including the Desert House. I do hope we'll get some more variety in lot sizes in the future, and also some more wall and floor styles. But I have to say I've been pretty impressed with how the house came out with the base game objects.

I've also dug into some of the technical aspects of the game in order to update some of my articles here, and this is where I have to ding the game a little for its crummy save and sharing system. Trying to back up saves isn't as easy as it could be, and neither is backing up houses, Sims, etc. to local archives. So, I do hope something will change in that respect. Also, the edge scrolling needs to be fixed. It's been so bad I pretty much switched it off.

One other thing missing is the normal UI for controlling the camera. I know there's some controls hidden in the Camera menu at the top, but there's no tilt controls, for example. Having a small circle with the controls in one of the corners would have been nice for people that aren't used to using the mouse for that. At least have it as option if you switch to The Sims 3 camera controls, for example.

As the game improves with patches and expansions, I expect I'll like it more. Right now, the Build mode is great, the actual Sims gameplay is good. An easy 4 for now and a potential for a 5 in the future depending on how they handle expansions and patches. :)

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« Reply #34 on: September 22, 2014, 02:07:55 PM »
Hey I'm a new to the forum and would like give my voice to the discussion.

I really enjoy the game. The things that I absolutely love such as the collectibles and building houses are fantastic and they keep me coming back to play the game.

The Create-A-Sim is a slight disappointment. Because of the lack of options in terms of colour I find myself limited in what I can make. The click-and-drag mechanics of creating a sim can be a little finicky and I would prefer to have sliders for any fine tuning, but the traits and aspirations system (I prefer it over the lifetime wishes) is really good.

The Building tools are absolutely to die for in my opinion. They're very intuitive and its now so easy to build a house as you cna move rooms together or the entire house. I can't count how many times in earlier games where I have misplaced my house and have to go back and adjust the entire house with furniture. I admit that there are some problems with the higher levels of a house, particularly with the third floor as the camera has a habit of sinking.

The game play as well is really enjoyable. I like the emotion system and whims are much improved over the wishes as I never have to decide on what wishes to go for. I also like the fact that the whims are more concurrent with the sim's emotion and actual skills and goals. I also like the unlocking mechanic and the career splits.

Some minor issues are with not being able to opt out of some skills (I'm talking about you charisma and comedy) and the numerous loading screens can be bothersome at times. Also the game suffers from memory leaks on higher qualities and I have noticed some errors (the music playing really loudly on start up and never stopping or the texture misplaces), but they're relatively minor.

I would like to point out that though The Sims 3 open world was really good I found my computer could rarely handle it even on the lowest settings whereas now with The Sims 4 my computer can actually play it, and play it well.

Overall I look forward to the new content as I inch closer and closer to the hundred hour mark.

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« Reply #35 on: September 22, 2014, 03:46:15 PM »
We have 184 votes at this moment, and that's a good sample size. Just to give an idea of how this is going, so far the game averages 4.1 from Sims fans and people who've bought the game. That is a huge difference when compared to the Amazon score, and likely a score it deserves. When we have more like 3-400 votes I'll run it again, but this was what I was hoping to see. It looks more like Best Buy's results than Amazon's eh?

I have read every single review people have shared here and like hearing what people appreciate about the game, and think the disappointments are rational. Omissions do not make an entire game bad, and some are happy with the new features when compared with what's been left out. Even when people don't like it, they're not flaming and we're avoiding the kind of negativity that plagues other Forums.

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« Reply #36 on: September 22, 2014, 03:50:59 PM »
I'd say somewhere between a 4 and 5, though I voted for five.

I'm really appreciating all of the new changes and the surprising amount of depth to the Sims that I did not see in previous games. I love the CAS, build/buy mode and the live mode so much, which I can say is a first to enjoy all 3 in one Sims games. I have noticed some bugs, but nothing major and certainly nothing (so far) that would discourage me from playing or put the game down in frustration. Loading screens are a bit so-so, but they're fine.

I may be a bit biased because I've been playing since the Sims 1, and I've also played a bunch of spin offs from the main series and have thoroughly enjoyed a wide variety of Sim gameplay. I love seeing the way the game evolves over time and such.

I'm glad you mentioned the whole review rating thing, especially in regards to Amazon. I know of too many games whose ratings have been destroyed because of a bad launch day, like Diablo 3, and just generally people not playing the game/only playing for 5 minutes or the like. It's so easy to focus on the negatives and so easy to diminish the positives.
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« Reply #37 on: September 22, 2014, 06:38:28 PM »
I gave a rating of 4 though for me it's really a 4.5. I really, really love the multi-tasking. In fact it still catches me out as times I'll be fast forwarding eating so they can go skill up watching cooking tv... to realize wait, they can do both, and chat! The bottom line for me is that it is fun. I appreciate all the little things in the game like -

The quarter placement on grid
Holding alt down for placement of pictures and wall items,
Having range hoods
Chopping/cooking actions the sims do
Kitchen counters and corner (auto placement off) shapes, wall cabinets, all the shapes/sizes
NanoCan Touchless Trash Can (love that!)
How the wall cabinets disappear when the walls are down for live mode, makes it easy to play in little kitchens
The blurb on the books (some are really funny)
How the foundation sticks out until you colour it
Sims making bed each day
When you visit a neighbour you don’t get kicked out at 3am etc

I could go on, but I won't. For me the game is a great start and I can't wait to see where it goes next. It is different enough from previous sims games to have changed my game play and that's great, I like changing things up and thinking about new ways of doing things.
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« Reply #38 on: September 22, 2014, 06:44:11 PM »
Sims 4 has both good and bad points. I love the new build mode, CAS, and emotion system. But, it is missing many parts that I loved in previous games such as toddlers, cars, pools, and create a style. I can understand that there must be some changes. I feel that a car system like the one in sims 2 (with the car pulling out of the driveway) and create a style from sims 2 (customize parts of an item from preselected styles) would both fit in well with this game. Another thing I have an issue with is the fact that this game is not as easy to pick up as previous games. I still can't figure the emotion system out. If the developers create expansion packs with the missing features I feel that this game can live up to its full potentential.
Overall I would rate this game at about 3.5 stars.

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« Reply #39 on: September 22, 2014, 08:19:23 PM »
I am loving Sims 4! I have been playing Sims since my old PS 2 days, after that, I knew if I got it on the computer it would be so much better, I've been a fan since then.  What I love about Sims 4 is that they seem more emotional than before. I created a family I've been playing for a week now, and every time he comes home he breathes a sigh of relief and finds his wife and children to hug them LOL, I think this is so sweet. Other little things I noticed were my Sims can eat and have their drink with the meal. I like that when my mom Sims are in labor they can move around and take care of their needs.  There are many more things I love, but they have already been mentioned, especially the trash can that recycles the food LOL. The only thing that annoyed me about Sims 4 is there aren't any dishwashers and I was having some problems with saving and exiting my game, where my saved game would completely disappear after I finished playing, other than that, I am hooked and I can't wait to see the future expansion packs.  ;D

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« Reply #40 on: September 23, 2014, 05:43:58 AM »
I rated ts4 4 stars.
When I first played the game, I was a little dissappointed. I'm used to having so many options in the sims, from careers to clothing to objects, and I took all those options for granted in the sims 3. Ofcourse I have to remember that this is just the base game (I played the other sims games with all the expansions and many downloads) and that all of those things I miss now will come in the future.

That being said: I love the sims 4! In my opinion ts4 is so much better than previous sims games. I'm amazed at how well everthing 'flows' in the game. In previous games I would fast forward time a lot but in ts4 everything just looks so great and my sims move so much more natural that I actually enjoy just watching my sims get out of bed!

An other feature I wish to applaud is multitasking! I hated how in previous sim games I would make my sims eat together as a family, and they would just eat and get on with other stuff afterwards. Now sims are animately talking to each other while at the dinner table, a great way to boost relationships on a daily basis. And just last night, my sim was reading a book and had to go to the toilet. But he didn't put the book away, no, he just took it with him and continued to read on the toilet! Great!

But what i love most about ts4 is how easy and natural being social has become. It's so easy to start a conversation, and other sims can easily join the group. Socializing was something I didn't do much in previous sims games because it just took so much time and it just wasn't interesting to me. But with ts4 socializing has become one of my favorite things to do.

One thing I'm sad to say is no more in ts4: no more create a style. That's really too bad, I loved being able to completely personalize my clothes and furniture.

So if you can keep in mind that this is just the base game for now without the expansions many of us will be used to, you'll see that this is actually a far better game than previous sims games. At least, that's my opinion!

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« Reply #41 on: September 23, 2014, 08:05:30 AM »
I am really enjoying the game. Before it was released I read a lot of articles, most if not all of them were really negative. I also read reviews on amazon and a lot of them were negative too and left by people who had not even played the game. One comment was left because the person was annoyed that it wasn't available on xbox. To be honest it actually put me off buying it. I then had a think and release day came around. I thought to myself "what the heck, I'm going to bite the bullet and buy it" So I did. and since starting a legacy challenge and getting my head around the controls I am really loving the game. I believe it will get better but for me even without any expansion packs it's great. I just feel that it is so unfair that it has been given such a bad reputation already. I am planing on leaving a review on amazon. But I have become an addict pretty much overnight.

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« Reply #42 on: September 23, 2014, 08:48:53 AM »
After playing the Sims 4 101 hours (according to Origin), I'm giving  it a 5 -- more of a 4.5, but I decided to round up. I truly love this game, and am amazed at what the developers have accomplished. I really enjoy the depth in some areas -- the book titles, the variety of paintings, the cooking animations that your sim picks up as he gets better, the little adventures you get with the rocket ship. I love it that my sims can have different outfits to choose from, and that they pick them autonomously.

Some people are complaining that TS4 is too "goal-oriented," with its tasks for aspirations, careers, and skills, but I'm playing a challenge in which you can control only one person in a family, and am enjoying that. It's unlikely that anyone will complete an aspiration or reach the top of a career, but it's fun watching what the sims do on their own. The children hug each other spontaneously, the husband and wife flirt, and they're all picking up points in mischief and video-gaming skills.

The main question to ask about a game is whether it's fun. Unless the main thing you enjoy about the Sims is creating worlds, I think that TS4 offers plenty of opportunity for fun.

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« Reply #43 on: September 23, 2014, 12:29:49 PM »
Once I got myself out of the mind set of comparing Sims 4 to Sims 3 and just looking at it as a total new and separate game I finding that I'm loving it more every time I play it.

Exactly this!  I would actually rate it between a 4 and 5, but I had to pick one and, since I'm excited to see where it goes next, I chose 5. 

At first I was comparing TS4 to TS3, which already had several EPs and SPs available when I started playing in 2011.  I had to remind myself that I have never, ever played just a base sims game before.  Once I wrapped my head around that concept I fell in love with TS4.  It definitely takes some getting used to and there are some features of TS3 (primarily around camera control and user interface) that I prefer to what the developers put into TS4.  That being said, this is an amazing game.  The new build mode and CAS alone are worth the price of admission.  Yes, I wish there were more items to choose from and that I could recolor items easily, but despite these inconveniences it is pretty easy to build and decorate some amazing lots and rooms.  The more I play the game the more I appreciate just how loaded with features it really is for a base game.  And since we all know EA's business model is to add EPs and SPs in quick succession, I know this game is going to be amazing in another 6-18 months.

Carl, I read your entire article and it was incredibly well thought out, researched, and written.  It is a compelling reminder to all of us to consider the source of online reviews of any product, not just video games.  It is a good idea to actually read the reviews rather than just look at the summary information (e.g., # of stars, # of reviews) because you never know when a reviewer has a hidden agenda.  The internet allows anyone with a computer or smart phone to review just about anything - whether they own/use/play it or not.   It is up to us as consumer of products and information to consider everything we read critically and then make up our own minds.

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« Reply #44 on: September 23, 2014, 03:23:48 PM »
I love the new Sims, but hate the world. I could go on, but that about sums it up. So, for me it's a 3.

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« Reply #45 on: September 23, 2014, 03:32:27 PM »
I honestly didn't mind most of the stuff, but the new emotions system is kind of bothersome to me. I really miss the open world as well, that was half the fun of sims for me. And I still miss toddlers.

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« Reply #46 on: September 23, 2014, 07:50:08 PM »
I posted a review on Amazon and it said it helped one person in their experience with Amazon.  Not sure what that meant, as far as the sims4 goes, but, Carl's right, there are a lot of negative reviews on the game.
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« Reply #47 on: September 24, 2014, 10:38:10 AM »
I really like The Sims 4 because it's nearer to Sims 1 and I loved that game, I didn't at all like the Sims 3, too overwhelming for my liking, I wasn't too keen on Sims 2 either, I like to build and make Sims and this game lets me do that with ease, also moving Sims about from house/hood to house/hood is also very easy, like the Sims 1.... but with much better graphics, lovely...:)

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« Reply #48 on: September 24, 2014, 04:12:09 PM »
I posted a review on Amazon and it said it helped one person in their experience with Amazon.  Not sure what that meant, as far as the sims4 goes, but, Carl's right, there are a lot of negative reviews on the game.

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« Reply #49 on: September 25, 2014, 12:32:57 AM »
Carl.  Thank you for your fine article on negative reviews.  I gave the game a 4.  Obviously, there are going to be issues with a new release, but I think that a lot of the negative reviews are truly unwarranted.  User reviews can be a great way to get a general idea of how people are reacting to a new product.  However, it's always prudent to read between the lines.  It's usually pretty clear which reviews are relatively objective and the ones that are motivated by sour grapes.  I've been using Yelp for years and have become pretty good at telling one from the other.  I agree that unverified reviews should not be given any weight by distributors like Amazon.

I also agree with you about the negative effects of these ratings and I think it would be a shame to lose a storied franchise like The Sims due to unwarranted negative reviews.  If they can't sell the base game there is no way there will be expansion packs let alone The Sims 5.  Hopefully, word of mouth will overcome these initial reviews. 

I have had the game for about a week and although there are a few things I miss from The Sims 3, there are enough very cool new features to make me very hopeful.  I do miss the open world but I'm loving how fast it loads up.  I'm having a great deal of fun with the new build mode and CAS.  Some of the other posts on this thread have mentioned that when they put aside their love of Sims 3 and objectively compare the Sims 4 base game to the Sims 3 base game they come away with a very different, more positive opinion of this new product.

I, for one, would be very sorry to see the Sims ride off into the simulated sunset.  I'm hopeful that things will turn around once more people play the game and share their experiences with their friends.  After all, there was very little marketing for the original Sims game.  I heard about it from a friend as did most of my friends.

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« Reply #50 on: September 25, 2014, 05:58:56 PM »
I've done the math again, and with 393 votes, the game still holds its score of 4.1

Thank you, Kosto. I have to say that we shouldn't have anything to worry about as far as Expansions. EA has described Sims 4 sales as strong through their affiliate program that I participate in. It is already clear to me that this one is outdoing The Sims Medieval, as traffic is much better for the game. That game got an Expansion, so I do not expect any issues and think the studio must be hard at work on patching this up and likely developing the first Expansion. Obviously, if it's selling 'strong' now, the holidays will really amp it up :)

Our site growth with The Sims 3 reflected the sales of the game. We saw a big bump in visitors around the Holidays of '09, and bigger bumps with World Adventures and the following Summer.

Traffic right now makes me feel like this is at least competitive with Sims 3 sales. I am thankful for that, as Forum traffic is down a bit due to this being a sort of between-times for the franchise. Not to worry though, as a lot of people will get the game as January approaches, and an Expansion will draw a lot of interest for those still on the fence.

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« Reply #51 on: September 26, 2014, 12:18:49 AM »
I gave the game 4 stars.

A few days ago, I went in search of reviews to help me decide whether or not to purchase the game. I too ran across the horrible game reviews on amazon. I have been playing Sims since the original game and I've loved every new game. So I was very surprised. My wise husband suggested, I watch some let's plays on YouTube. I found one that looked good and after only a few minutes I wanted to get the game in spite of the missing features that had been listed by other posters.

I've been playing for a few days now and I can definitely see some of the negative aspects. I don't have a major issue with any one thing. I just find myself being frustrated with the gameplay. I don't feel like I can do what I want and more than once I've sat staring at the screen and saying "now what should I do...?". I just don't remember feeling this way with other base games.

In the past when I got the new game, I didn't look back. All I wanted to do was play the new one because it just seemed so much better. Since I bought Sims 4, I have been giving equal time to Sims 3. I'm not ready to move on.

I rated the first three stars because it is a pretty good game and I don't have major complaints. Even the changes I don't like make some sense. Some changes I didn't know I wanted but I love (like the timer on food so you know if it will be spoiled by the time your Sim makes his little way over to grab a plate). The fourth star is because I just love the Sims franchise so much and I really do think each expansion will improve upon the base game.

I'm sorry it's not the out-of-this-world experience I was hoping for. But I still feel like I'm getting my money's worth.

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« Reply #52 on: September 26, 2014, 12:50:37 AM »
I really tried to like it.  I thought I had an open mind, I KNOW it's a whole new game and not to be compared with TS3.  I was bored with TS3 and really wanted this new game.  But I am having a very difficult time with this game, and find it a chore to play.  I just got the game three days ago, but normally I'd have been playing it 15 hours a day.  I haven't even loaded it since noon day before yesterday, because I simply do not want to play it.

I do like the multitasking.  But I don't like the neighborhoods, the loading screens, the flatness, and the extreme moodiness.  My sim pees too much.  He doesn't seem to be very good at making friends, although I have him flag down everyone that walks past, and then invite them over or call them every day.  His social is always low, because he won't stay on the phone with anyone long enough to get it up.  The navigation is very difficult to me, even though I have it set for the TS3 version.  I think CAS is terrible, the sims turn out ugly no matter what I do with them.  I miss the Create-a-Style, I love decorating the sims' houses, and don't seem able to do that any more.  I also don't find the building to be much better.  The alphabetized catalog with a search is an improvement, though.  I haven't had children yet (heaven knows, I can barely keep one sim's motives up, I don't know how I'd handle a multi-sim household) but it's going to be very disconcerting to watch an 8 year old leap out of the bassinet.  I don't find the available careers interesting, and they're hard to promote in.

I'm going to keep on trying to play it.   I didn't like TS3 at first, either (although I liked it better than I like this game).  But the whole thing seems to be like something the developers just cobbled together and rushed to get out onto store shelves, it's not well planned or well executed.

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« Reply #53 on: September 27, 2014, 08:20:11 PM »
Well I rated it a four, because personally I'm having a lot of fun with the game.  Sure there are some areas that need improvement, but improvement will happen in time. Besides, was it my imagination, or did we have the same 'Drama' back when Sims 3 was released?

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« Reply #54 on: September 28, 2014, 12:50:41 PM »
At the moment I'm over my initial hatred of the game but I'm finding it boring.  I will often choose to play something else, even spider solitaire often has more appeal to me than Sims4.  However, I've finally gotten my head wrapped around the fact that this is just the base game, and base games often aren't at their best at first, (although I did not find that true with Sims3 which was fabulous for me from the get go).  I stopped comparing Sims4 with S3 and that helped a lot to change my mind from "man, I wasted my money!", to "ok, let's give this a fair shot".  There are a lot of things in Sims4 I like, some things I struggle with, and some things I strongly dislike, and I'm not talking about the many, many bugs.  My mindset is, "oh, that's a bug, ok", and move on.  Bugs don't bug me.  I just find a way around or ignore the items or situations that cause them.  I do think S4 is buggier than S3 was initially but there are so many different mechanics that needed to be addressed it really is no wonder there are a lot of bugs.  I'm pretty technology challenged so I want a game that I can just go into and have fun and not have to "work" at.  Right now I am having to work at Sims4 rather than play Sims4 so it only got a 2 from me at the moment.  I'm perfectly willing to have my mind and vote changed on this and am hopeful I'll be able to change it as I play more and learn more.
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Re: Rate the Sims 4
« Reply #55 on: September 29, 2014, 07:51:04 AM »
I ranked it as a five star game because I am loving it. I know there are a lot to be fixed and I do miss toddlers, but, to me, it was worth the multitasking and new interactions. I have been playing the sims franchise since the begining and I hated TS3. To the point that I stoped playing and buying expansions after the first two. I also loved TS2 and one of the things that made me decide to give TS4 a chance was the many reviews that said it had a TS2 feeling. I agree with them in the sense that it is much more apealing to the way I play than TS3. I am a control freak and hated (hated) the story progression on TS3. The way it happens in TS4 (and it does) is way better.
I have a lot of wishes, though, not only for new features as for old characters. I loved the Brokes and the Pleasants and would like to see them again. I do like the Goths in TS4.

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Re: Rate the Sims 4
« Reply #56 on: September 29, 2014, 12:53:09 PM »
Hi i registered to vote. I want to explain my rating (even though it's 4 stars so no bad ratings at all)
The game shouldn't get 4 stars yet imo. The main reason I give the extra one is cause reading the main sims forum and seeing the ''Guru's'' really listen to players I have a feeling the annoying things (that are for me a minimum btw) will be solved.

I understand people miss todlers and pools but i hate the fase that i had to learn them walk and talk so for me it was the best cut out ever. And pools I mainly made to look at them in the garden.

What for me really made the Sims 4 is that I now can build my own cool houses. In Sims 3 they always looked like big boxes with a stupid roof cause I couldn't make them as cool as the community. Now my houses look like how I want them. Still nothing compared to the rest but for me it's okay. Saves me a lot of downloads.
Multitasking. The fact they take a book to the toilet or phone there makes me laugh so much.
I have a much better feeling about the Sims 4 then I had about the Sims 3.

Sorry for the long story but I saw that the Sims 4 needed some honest opinions so here it is.

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Re: Rate the Sims 4
« Reply #57 on: September 30, 2014, 01:59:26 AM »
I rated 4 stars because so far I am absolutely loving the game. I think all the animations are really good and always make me laugh, also there is still a lot to do. I really like the gallery because it is so easy to download my favorite houses and sims. I also really like CAS and think that its really easy to make nice sims, also i love, love, love build mode. I thought I would miss toddlers, but honestly I find it's easier especially when having multiples because you don't have to teach them to walk and talk. I really love the look of the game and so far it is running smoothly but occasionally there are a few glitches but nothing that cant be easily fixed with exiting and re-entering the game. I know a lot of people are disappointed with this but I am not one of them, and I cant wait for the expansions to come.

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« Reply #58 on: September 30, 2014, 08:26:25 AM »
It's better then I expected, but I still gave it three stars, the gameplay and the CAS are excellent, but I miss the CASt, toddlers, pools, and other cut features. It's gonna be a long wait for the expansion packs but it'll be worth it! I really hit me hard when there were no cars, but I see potential in this game.

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Re: Rate the Sims 4
« Reply #59 on: October 01, 2014, 04:25:32 AM »
I gave it a solid 4 stars; I'm enjoying it quite a bit.

Reasons why it's not a 5-star game:

1. Achievements are save based rather than player based; if I want to start a new save to try something new I'll have to earn all the same badges all over again.
2. Unlockables are Sim based rather than save based or family based, meaning that when my chef Sim dies those counters she got will disappear and her kids won't be able to buy new ones unless they too go through the steps for the Chef career. That's going to feel pretty repetitive; if I get too frustrated with that I might just go ahead and install one of the mods that automatically unlocks everything, but I'll probably wait a few generations first.
3. Bugs are making game frustrating in some cases and unplayable in others.
4. I'm not a rotational player by habit; I'd rather concentrate on one family, maybe two or three at the most...but in order to get my Sim's children (now at three) to advance in their skills and careers I'm forced to play rotationally. A basic Story Progression that would allow Sims to advance their skills and career/aspiration progress on their own, but not necessarily match them up with anyone else (and a way to turn off aspects of SP for those who reallly don't want it) would be an awesome addition.


I'm looking forward to new towns/worlds and new venues -- I'm hoping for a dance club of some sort as well as an open restaurant. I really like the expanded interactions that Sims have with each other -- sometimes it feels like Sims 3 was more about the worlds than about the Sims, and with Sims 4 the emphasis is back where it belongs.

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« Reply #60 on: October 02, 2014, 05:24:25 PM »
I've been trying really hard to like 4 as much as I liked 3 but I'm sad to say, it's just not happening. The most significant thing 4 has done for me is to make me appreciate anew how good a game 3 is.  After a few days of 4, I reloaded 3 to see if I was imagining things or if I truly liked 3 better.  To be fair, I started a completely fresh 3 game, from the ground up, beginning with Create A Sim.

For a fair comparison, I compared Vanilla 4 (which is all we have) to Vanilla 3.  My 3 has only Ambitions, World Adventures and Late Night.  Absolutely NO mods and NO CC.  Since I also have the Prima guide for 3, I can easily tell what features in my game are purely vanilla and which come from expansions.  For the last few weeks, I've been alternating between both games. 

In a nutshell, vanilla 3 is a heartier (and, in my opinion, better) game than vanilla 4.  While playing 4, I find myself frequently saying "I wish I could do xyz like I could in 3".  While playing 3, I rarely find myself wishing it had features from 4.

Things I really wish had been brought forward from 3 to 4:
  • Open world -- I abhor the loading screens.  Mine last at LEAST 45 seconds each and completely break immersion.  I don't want to leave the house because of them.
  • CASt -- I truly miss being able to make my own color/pattern schemes
  • Variety of furniture, clothes and accessories -- 4 is VERY limited (and the furniture is mostly plug-ugly)
  • Fireplaces with chimneys -- I can't stand the drop-in fireplaces.
  • Rabbit holes -- yep, I miss them.  Shops, restaurants (OH how I miss restaurants), City Hall, the movies...
  • Favorites -- although 3 should allowed favorites to play a bigger role in setting up moodlets
  • Bright lights -- 4 is just too dark
  • Socializing at work -- why socialize at work in 4 -- it doesn't make any difference
  • Setting a date, time and place for parties
  • Video game consoles -- what an odd thing to leave out!
  • Transportation -- I don't care if it's a personal car, but come on, taxis, buses, bikes... even skateboards, give me some sort of transportation
  • Swimming -- I don't need a pool in my backyard but let me swim in a community pool, at the gym, in a pond, river (ew) or lake, which brings me to...
  • Beaches -- where is the beach???
  • Firefighters, cops, burglars, maids, dishwashers, lawn/garden sprinklers
  • And, of course, proper babies and toddlers
Of course, there are things in 4 that I wish were in 3, such as:
  • Multi-tasking -- nice to increase fun and/or skilling while eating in front of the TV
  • Objectives -- I like having to meet objectives for a promotion, for example
  • Narrow upper cabinets -- upper cabinets should not extend out as far as base cabinets, and in 4, they don't
  • Round-edge cabinets
  • Phone is part of the UI now
  • Random outfits -- if I give my sim 3 sets of everyday clothes, s/he'll randomly choose what to wear for the day.  Nice!
  • Different foods/activities play a part in maintaining waistline (or not!  :o)
  • Keyboard shortcuts! -- so many time while playing 3, I've been hitting the letter "o" to bring up my needs panel...whoops
There are many more items for both lists but I think you get the idea. 

Basically, what I really would have liked is for 4 to be Sims 3, Remastered.  It is not.  The things that were added are not enough to make up for the things that aren't there.  That said, I'll still play 4.  I've already played enough to get my money's worth out of it, so I don't regret the purchase.  I just feel there was an opportunity to make 4 a stellar move forward, but it didn't happen.  Did I mention how much I hate the loading screens?

I voted 3 stars.




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Re: Rate the Sims 4
« Reply #61 on: October 02, 2014, 08:00:52 PM »
I agree with almost 100% of what SimPoseyYum said.  I'm still playing, hoping I won't be bored out of my skull for too much longer. I rated the game a 3. There are fabulous improvements - LOVE the searchable catalog; will be worth it's weight in gold when the catalog expands. I spent so much time in 3 trolling for specific objects that were in the oddest categories once I found them! I couldn't care less about toddlers (or babies, or teens, honestly). CAS is over-rated; all the Sims look alike because of the limited hair and clothing choices. I really, really, really miss CASt. One of my favorite parts of Sims 3 was creating my own patterns, and then experimenting with them in game. Yes, 3 is laggy and I understand that CASt and the color wheel in CAS made it sluggish....but it was so much more FUN! In 3, I spent as much, if not more, time playing "outside" of the actual game; building, creating Sims and new clothing with patterns. I miss that a lot. I don't like that you have to enter the game to get to the Gallery; it was great being able to scroll through all of the new Sims and lots outside of the game. I like the multi-tasking. That said, there's not much to DO in game. I'm heartily sick of fishing and digging and looking for frogs...yawn! What is with all those "Sim Trophies"?? They don't "do" anything amusing, like the gnomes did. And they ALL enhance "playfulness"...overkill, IMHO. I'm glad there's a new patch that adds some eye colors and other enhancements. I hope this doesn't sound too negative; I'm trying hard to be fair, but I'm disappointed with many of the things that were hyped to be such huge improvements (e.g.; CAS), and really are not.

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Re: Rate the Sims 4
« Reply #62 on: October 02, 2014, 08:14:25 PM »
@justme2, I don't know why you say that the unlockables that one sim got disappear when he or she dies. My legacy family (on Gen 3) is still using the computer that the founder obtained, and they've added some things from family inventory that were never used during his life. I'll have to check my family inventory, but I know if there's something you'll want later on but can't use right now, you can place it in your game and then put it back in family inventory and it will still be there after the sim has died.

Edit to add: I just checked my family inventory and things that I never put in my game are there as well even though the person who unlocked them has died. I won't be able to buy others, but I might be able to place them and use the eyedropper -- I haven't tried that.
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« Reply #63 on: October 03, 2014, 11:10:00 PM »
First, Carl & Pam, thank you so much for your guides to The Sims. I only began in 2011 and would have been really lost without these guides. I also like how fast you make them. Watching this one grow has been a wonder. I am forever grateful for all of your work.

I gave The Sims 4 a 4.5 and I'll explain why. I've been playing the game since the day it came out, often six or more hours at a time. I feel very lucky that I have had not one glitches though I know others have. Oh, I do have one minor one, the puddles of water in the garden won't dry up. No biggie.

Some of my biggest complaints about The Sims 3 were fixed with The Sims 4. It used to drive me crazy that you would take your sim out to the "HotSpot" for the night and there would be one or two sims there. And no one would interact with you. That was so frustrating. I would go to the gym or any of the other beloved places in The Sims 3 and there would be one or two sims at the very most. My experience with The Sims 4 has been a joy in this aspect because when you go to the gym or to the club it seem every sim in town and several from Oasis Springs are there. I even have trouble getting my sims to have a date out because there are always several sims joining the table and taking over the conversation. Even when my sim was trying to find Sylvan Glade he had trouble completing the steps because people would just come up to talk to him. Bella Goth or Nancy Landgraab is always showing up at the house so I'm not sure what is happening for whoever can't make friends but my sim doesn't have enough time to keep up with all their friends. You know, after missing that in the last game, I didn't even mind.

I also see that several of you have missed the post that Carl put in a BIG blue box about pools coming back in November. Not that my sims ever did more than tread water in them. Not sure why they are such a big deal except that they are pretty. And rabbitholes used to drive me crazy. You know, I used to take all of them and put them together in several basements on a 64x64 lot.

I also enjoy the Aspirations. My sims have completed several in the last month and gotten some pretty fine rewards for doing so. In The Sims 3 I would choose Jack of All Trades just to make the Lifetime Wish last longer though I didn't get a reward until it was done. Oh, and I can build a house now. I can actually build a pretty darn nice house now which is wonderful. And my mods will be in the game instead of imported, though I did use the ones from TwistedMexican which are actually pretty great. For anyone missing MOO, you just have to try his mod for this. It works perfect.

There are only a couple of things I don't like. The first is the oft mentioned camera movement. Not at all smooth and sometimes I find myself cussing at it. The other thing is how long they are gone to work, then have to come home and do their daily homework for work which gets longer as they progress. They barely have time to eat before they have to go to bed let alone take care of a garden. So their only fun is on their days off but if those are not together then they don't get to have fun together. Thank heaven one date can refill that romance line even when it is more than half empty. So there's a positive out of a bad one. It's a good game. I'm glad I wasn't around for the change from The Sims 2 to The Sims 3 if this is what went on.

P.S. Carl, thanks for the heads up about Amazon. I'm a reviewer over their and I get a lot of "Helpful" votes. I just went onto page for The Sims 4 and did a bold headline that said **BEWARE OF REVIEWS!! MOST OF THEM DON'T OWN THE GAME** I put it under every iteration of the game. Hope it helps.

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Re: Rate the Sims 4
« Reply #64 on: October 06, 2014, 04:38:05 PM »
Thanks for your effort to enlighten people about bad reviews on Amazon, natashaspy. The pools weren't announced until Oct 1, but they are indeed missing from the game right now. I am sure some of us will reevaluate it then, since I am allowing people to change their vote on this poll. I am also sure that the November patch that brings pools will also come with bugfixes, so we're all looking forward to that one.

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Re: Rate the Sims 4
« Reply #65 on: October 07, 2014, 07:14:27 PM »
Hi,

Please remember that this is only my opinion!  I have to admit, I was a little disappointment.  I have been playing The Sims since it first came out.  Like others, I had to stop comparing The Sims 4 to the 3rd installment of the series.  The building capabilities are outstanding!!  The new interactions the sims have not only with each other, but also with objects is just great.  I love that they mimic so much of real life.  I also really appreciate the ability to have a conversation with more than one person!!

That said....

I am disappointed with what Maxis decided to release.  Once I started playing the game, I wish I would have waited for the prices to come down.  I feel like this is a revamp of the 1st generation of the came.  As the generations evolved, they always got better.  I feel as though this was a step back in terms of game play.  Yes, I know, I am contradicting myself.  There are certainly aspects of this new release that are much better.  However, now I am waiting to pay for features they could have already included.  I understand that Maxis is a business and that they need to make money.  But don't take me all the way back to the beginning just because you need a long line up of expansion packs.  I feel as though the first release in the next generation was a slap in the face and as of I were taken advantage of.

That said...

Yes, I will continue to play and purchase these games.  I am hopelessly addicted to and in love with these games.  I am a cancer patient, and these game help me to escape.  I just wish they would have released the game in a different way.  Yes I know, there are a lot of new players to welcome into the family.  HOWEVER, there are those of us who have been there from the beginning.  It would have been nice to have been thought of when they decided what they were going to include or remove.

If you have made it this far, thank you!!

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« Reply #66 on: October 08, 2014, 12:24:41 AM »
@alfiajamel  You may have missed recent announcements from EA regarding content to be released in patches between now and December for FREE.  This content will include pools and more careers.

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« Reply #67 on: October 09, 2014, 08:25:25 PM »
I changed my vote from 4 up to a 5. I thought about it for a while and based on my enjoyment TS4 is an easy 5. I could go into a long winded explanation why but basically it's all the many, many small things that I just love. All those sim interactions with each other, the facial expressions, the gestures and the way that emotions change all these. It's just a fantastic base game.
I know there are bugs etc, I'm playing around a lot of these in my generational game but, meh, <shrugs> makes no change to how much I am simply enjoying playing.
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« Reply #68 on: October 10, 2014, 07:59:27 PM »
I have also changed my vote. I'm starting to get into the game a lot more now and thanks to the recent patches that have been announced, I think it definitely deserves a 5.

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« Reply #69 on: October 10, 2014, 11:57:21 PM »
I pre-purchased Sims 4 the day they announced it LOL and yet I find myself going back to Sims 3. My main disappointment with TS4 is the lack of open-world play. Having a loading screen in-between each place in town is absolutely painful, it doesn't allow me to truly immserse myself in the character play.

Having said that, I do remember when TS3 was released, I didn't like it at all compared to TS2. It took a long time for me to adjust, and eventually I loved TS3. Hopefully this will be true of TS4 as well.

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« Reply #70 on: October 11, 2014, 07:11:11 PM »
I rated this game a 4. Just to give some perspective for this review, the only Sims games I have played before this were MySims on the DS when I was like seven, and, more recently, Sim City 4. So this really is my first main "Sims" game, and I've been really enjoying it. Because it's EA I was a bit hesitant to buy it (youtube lets plays put the original idea in my head), but with the help of a "consult the helix fossil" site (yes, I'm a pokemon fan. problem?) I made the decision to buy it. I waited about an hour for it to download, and, starting at like 9:30 at night, I played for what seemed like just a little while, until my mom came in and told me it was 2 in the morning. Out of a week of owning this game, I've played it 28 hours (by origin's count), and that's with 8 hours of my day being in high school with honors classes for five of them. It is really really addicting, and I really have enjoyed it. The only fault I have with this game are the load screens, kind of detracting from the openness of it. It makes it somewhat annoying when one of my sims wants to go work out at the gym and I don't want to wait through a load screen. It makes my sims basically stay in the house unless completely necessary, and I don't like that. It doesn't affect me too much, as the work I've put into getting my sims really high-paying jobs makes it trivial to buy a treadmill to exercise on. Overall, especially for people new to the series, I recommend it. It's lacking a little, but nothing that can't be fixed by the FREE content updates we're getting. And for the veterans of the series, take it as its own game, not a sequel in a series.

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« Reply #71 on: October 22, 2014, 12:32:00 PM »
I rated 5 stars for sims 4.  It is absolute an very good game and good looking, and every game has to start in the basics as we know, well if the basic is very good then games can only be better  :) really looking forward to development of this game. And yes sadly it is true, many people vote negative cause others say so. Well I find that if you do not own something and not have tested or tried it, then you should not Judge it. Thumb up for EA  :D

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« Reply #72 on: October 24, 2014, 01:40:40 PM »
I ranked it a 4-star.  I haven't played any of the previous Sims games, so all the missing content wasn't really an issue for me.  I've enjoyed the game quite a bit, and have spent a lot of time exploring the different jobs and aspirations.  I really only have a couple (moderately minor) complaints. 

The time doesn't always go into super speed when you're sleeping/at a job.  I don't know if people have figured out how to fix this one yet...  for me, 90% of the time it was an issue with my radio.  I would go to work, realize my time wasnt speeding up, turn off my radio in the room I was in last, and bam it sped up.  Sometimes I would have to turn off the laser light show as well. 

Secondly, I don't like how easy it is to "force" a Sim into feeling the way you want them to.  I don't know how previous games worked, but the emotions system in Sims 4 needs to be a little harder.  It's extremely easy to avoid being in any bad mood, and its pretty easy to "lock" yourself into a "Very emotional" state.  All you need is the +10 environment picture (or a series of smaller environment items) to get to +3 happy, enough emotional paintings to get +3 emotion from that, and then another +2 from anywhere else.  Usually easily obtained by looking at an emotional painting and listening to the radio while you work.  Adding a laser light show like I mentioned earlier pretty much gives you a cheap (and permanent) +1 happy moodlet near it. 

To sum up that last one, it's extremely easy to get to and stay at a very emotional state.  Even when you're low on hygiene, or just got back from a rough day at work, or maybe you're just feeling naturally sad or angry...  you can step into a well decorated room and listen to some music and suddenly you're ready to grind out a book, or hack the National Security Agency. 

I think that negative emotions should in fact count as a negative to your current emotional state, so if you've got +5 inspired and +5 happy, being exhausted (-3) will still drop you into just Inspired (+7) instead of Very inspired.  Or something like that, so there's actually some incentive to working with your Sims emotions instead of just brute forcing them into the right one.

Outside of that, there's a couple of small issues, mostly minor glitches, like moodlets not properly updating when Sims change rooms. Or Sims refusing to clean up, saying they don't have a path (when they obviously do).  The fact that the Sims don't seem to build their own relationships, jobs, or anything else unless you're actively at a site with them is annoying, they should automatically advance their skills and job based on what aspiration they have while they are "offscreen".  For people like me, that play mostly in their house, it's annoying to stroll around town and find it exactly the same as it was 3 sim weeks ago.   A bunch more minor issues that I can't really think of off the top of my head. 

I think if I had played previous Sims games, my rating would probably be a 3 instead, as it IS an amazing game, and a looks like a great building board for future expansions and/or content.  But it still has a bunch of glitches/game-play that could be fixed or streamlined.  Given that they've already released new content, and announced that more free stuff is planned, I'd say I'm very happy with the game, and can only get happier.
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« Reply #73 on: October 24, 2014, 06:31:35 PM »
To See Results Without Voting, Click View Results Under the Poll

Taking a day off from guide-writing, I saw some threads ranting on The Sims 4 at the official Forum. In response, I've written an article about hatred in gaming particularly as it affects franchises. Ranking or reviewing games (or any other product) as a user is to help guide others who are considering purchasing it. Yet, non-owners vote on retailers' sites and review sites in order to attempt to discredit or protest against games like The Sims 4. This is a relatively new phenomenon that is affecting the gaming industry.

People who love the franchise put a negative mark on the new game, making it more likely to fail, and they do this out of a love for the past titles. This can skew results permanently. Look at the difference in my article between Amazon.com, a frequent target of this type of protest, and Best Buy - which has more game owners reviewing the title. Notice the crazy amount of 1-star votes that Diablo 3 received when they had server trouble the first few days after launch. Only research and the opinions of other owners can help you decide if a game is right for you.

I believe that only owners of games should vote or review them, because if they have not played them, they do not know how enjoyable a game truly is. There are pros and cons to the Sims 4. Therefore,

Please only vote if you own the game!

No ranting here - if you want to give it a low score, just do so. If you'd like to give a balanced opinion, that would be welcome. Rants will be deleted without notice.

Many people will skip my big article, but here's one of the main points:


Amazon.com users voting without owning the game



Best Buy users who own the title reviewing The Sims 4






I have noticed that a lot of people that do not own the game do this. After so much time and effort and money put into making a game, people mark it as 1 star even though they do not own the game. Now that is not right. People need to play the game and own it in order to make a decision. I have the game and have been using Carl's guide for a long time. Atleast since Sims 3. And Carl, fantastic job. Without you, I would not have been able to do what I enjoy doing with the Sims than what I have done. Great job. In regards to Sims 4, I like the upgrade. The graphics are incredible and a huge improvement. Just like from Sims to Sims 2. Huge improvement. I believe expansion packs will follow soon, just as a base game it introduces the 'Upgraded Sims' game. It's incredible. Just makes me wonder what Maxis has in store for Sims 5. Great job Carl and Maxis. Thank you.

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« Reply #74 on: October 25, 2014, 09:20:53 PM »
I played The Sims from the beginning and I bought most of the expansions packs. I didn't care much for some of them but in general I was quite happy with the game. The Sims 4 I pre-ordered from Amazon and I got in September. I installed it and I create my first Sim, I didn't like it much, clothes are really ugly and even wasting 3 hours I couldn't create a Sim I liked. When I tried to build the house things went worse.  I haven't played since.  I might have another try after the first expansion,but never before I was so disappointed by The Sims.
Even with the base game before I played hours and hours, this one leaves me cold and I just can't find the will to click on it.   

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« Reply #75 on: October 25, 2014, 09:36:48 PM »
I do think that some people who reviewed it on Amazon do have the game and didn't like it. There were many who didn't have the game but there were some that obviously did. So do remember that not all bad reviews were done by people who didn't play the game yet.

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Re: Rate the Sims 4
« Reply #76 on: October 27, 2014, 08:13:27 AM »
Well I have readed up all the reactions, but I still stick with my 5 star rating. As I said every single game out there has to start with the basics and it can only get better. Have a look at the sims 4 community gallery and see what people already have made and sharing from housing to families, it is very nice. 1 thing people need to remember is altrough expansions add alot of new stuff, the greatest secret of any sims game is that it becomes much better by the ideas and so from players. Even an basic can get wonderfull with many player made creations avaible. Yes expansions bringing more stuff and flavor with it to add more colour and so in it, but overall and general the Sim worlds are made from the creations of players, they fill the lots with houses and buildings all made by an player community or from their own creations, and yes EA is not fast, cause we know they got several other games in the making and so. Best is to stay patient and enjoy with the sims 4 has to offer even if it is only basics :)

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Re: Rate the Sims 4
« Reply #77 on: November 04, 2014, 08:45:15 PM »
I got the game a bit after launch: I believe it was just before the first patch that came out.  I've been playing it fairly steadily since.  I gave the game a solid 4 and would even go so far as to say 4.5.  Now, the gameplay itself is amazing.  Things like the multi-tasking system, the emotions are just fantastic.  I'm still getting used to the emotions, but I'm excited to see how it continues to evolve as things go on.  And being able to sit, watch TV with the family, all of them eating together just like I do at home with my family?  That's just so much fun!  It really kicks up the realism factor.  While the loading screens are a disappointment, I completely understand why they have to do that.  It makes sense and I do appreciate why they put them back in.  Unlocking content based on careers is actually a lot of fun.  For someone that plays challenges like Legacies and likes watching a family's progress from having nothing to a rich, successful family?  That is a really cool aspect.

As far as the things that are missing.  I do miss toddlers.  I don't mind the babies being just relegated to their little bassinet.  That's fine.  But it is decidedly odd to see them pop out as a fully fledged child.  It's a bit incongruous with how things have been set up as slightly more realistic with the multi-tasking and emotions.  But it's not game breaking, just odd to me.  Of course, pools will be coming shortly (if they haven't already.  I haven't updated or checked in the last few days due to NaNoWriMo), so that's a moot point.  The biggest thing that I really miss is some form of story progression.  I am NOT a rotational player at all.  As I said, I play challenges and the rules often state that you must play just one family.  So being able to go and make other households have babies is out of the questions.  They allow us to keep aging on for the other families.  Now, I am no programer, so please keep that in mind when I say this, but I would think (correct me if I am mistaken, please) that just adding sims to an existing family would be just as simple as adding whole new residents into the town (though I know that's one of the major bugs at the moment).  I am really hoping that whether in a patch or an EP they will do something like that.  Until they do, I think I will keep it as a 4, but I do love the game play, and I will continue to play it for a long time.

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Re: Rate the Sims 4
« Reply #78 on: January 02, 2015, 05:06:50 AM »
A friend gave me the game shortly after it came out, and I immediately hated it.  I played for most of two days and then didn't touch it again for two weeks.  Then I was thinking that since Kathy was so nice to give me the game, I owed it to her to try to like it.  Since then I have played upwards of 600 hours (I'm retired, I can do things like that), and I still don't like it.

First, the careers were very difficult, when coupled with the aspiration goals. In fact, I don't like all the goals at all, I like sandbox play.  But then with the upgrade that added pools, the goals were dumbed down.  For example, in the writer career, some of the requirements for promotion were things like "self publish four books" but now it's "read books".  Have you tried to get a sim to sit down and read a book?  Also, there is no time for such foolishness as reading, it takes forever to do the daily tasks.  Just eating can take forever, since the sim regularly puts its hands in its lap and sits there looking around and talking to the empty room between bites.  If they need to bathe or use the toilet, or if they have a garden to tend or if one of the plumbing, electronic items, or appliances breaks, and they don't have the money to replace it, there's more time lost.

The goals for children are horrible.  My sim kiddies have no chance to just be kids, they have to constantly be striving for goals as well.

I despise all the stalkers.  I've gotten to where I don't even let my sim make a friend, because that friend will be standing on her doorstep five or six times a day, for an hour or more.  Even if it's someone they like, such as a lover, nobody likes anybody that much.  My sim might woohoo with her boyfriend, then he leaves, and an hour later he's back.  Just standing there in front of the door.  I catch myself muttering curses.

I have to say the clothing is better, there are no silly puffy shirts that all my sim children seem to age up wearing.  I like being able to put on cosmetics for each type of clothing.  I like the multi-tasking.

I hate the loading screens.  I don't like how an 8 year old leaps out of the bassinet when you age up the baby.  I miss the cuteness of toddlers.  I don't like the teens being the same size as adults, though to give the devil its due, EA has now put labels on them when you mouse over, telling what age group they are, which saves my female full adult from the embarrassment of being a cougar. 

I do not find the building to be intuitive.  I do like being able to pick up the house and move it, but that's about it.  Mostly I hate it because in order to see what I'm doing, I have to pan out, and it's all miniature, most of it hidden by the control panel and the infernal prices that pop up every time you try to add something.  I lose count of how many times I have to redo porch steps, because the price tag hides the whole thing, and I am always putting them in the wrong place.

I have yet to figure out how to make a male sim that doesn't look like a goofball.  A goofball banker, to be specific.  Yes, I understand how to make them.  But they all seem to resemble Alec Baldwin to a great degree, and not in his good years.  I can make pretty girl sims, but they all look alike.  The hair is atrocious.  I like perhaps 3 female styles and none of the male styles.

I like how fast the game loads.  This has been key to the amount of time I've played it.  Sometimes you just want to sim for an hour or so, so you don't feel like spending 10 minutes loading the game.  TS4 loads in less than a minute, and my computer is medium-range.

Mostly, I find that playing TS3 relaxes me, and playing TS4 makes me tense.  I have to constantly be working on goals, so there's no time to just sit back and watch the sims do their own thing.  I still think EA missed the boat on this one.

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Re: Rate the Sims 4
« Reply #79 on: January 19, 2015, 11:04:06 PM »
I feel this game is average. I bought the game about a week after it came out and was a bit iffy, since hearing many complaints. I decided to try it out myself to get my own understanding of it. Even though it is only a base game, it is lacking somewhat, compared to the other base games. The teenagers, young adults, adults, and elders all were the same height and looked very similar. (Prior to the patch telling their age when you hover over them.) Also, there were no toddlers, which most people are fine without, but I enjoyed the challenge. As well as no basements, cars, and terrain editing. How am I supposed to build my evil lairs now? There are also too many loading screens for my taste, in your little "district", you still have to go through a loading screen to go to your neighbour's house. I will also mention that my game crashed on my Alienware computer, and there are many glitches and bugs. I am ,however, impressed with the CAS and Build Mode (although lacking good colour choices). I also do like the landscaping of the background and there are Sims that come on the lot when you do. It is an average game, and I hope for some improvement. :-)

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Re: Rate the Sims 4
« Reply #80 on: March 15, 2015, 03:39:27 PM »
I edited the first post to show what sort of influenced me to make this poll, so that people don't have to read my rant about ranting and bad votes. Amazon is one of my go-tos for shopping, but they seriously need to alter their practices at least when it comes to games. It's franchises that end up treated this way, along with single player games with online-only requirements that people want to protest.  >:(

I totally agree with you Carl but unfortunately when it comes to online shopping it seems like most of it is a caveat emptor kind of thing.  Also, I've noticed that there are more negative reviews than positive reviews by customers.  As I'm sure you already know that most of the people will post something when they are angry.  I know I am guilty to doing that from time to time.  By seeing all that negativity on a lot of products I like I've been forcing myself more and more to put up a positive review in the hopes it will get bought more.  The internet is sometimes a very cold place but that's the people make it like that.  These companies set up forums to TRY to help future customers.  We as a CONSUMER should TRY to be as unobjective as possible when it comes to writing up a product.  We need to use some diplomacy and if the product is bad say so but don't insult the company or the person but if its good give praises but try to keep it from being wishy-washy.  That's the price of these forums, polls, and other online consumer senses.

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Re: Rate the Sims 4
« Reply #81 on: March 19, 2015, 01:03:45 PM »
I rated the game 2. I'm sorry but I really can't get into it. It's a chaos. What I miss more is the open world of The Sims 3. I recently tried to make an experiment. I created the same family in both sims 3 and 4. The sims 3 story went on well. There was deepness in the way the sims reacted. When they were sad they could go for a walk all alone, in the wild fields of Riverview. The story, in the Sims 4, was a total mess. The sims were sad, energized, inspired, angry and so on in a wild way. It was impossible even make two sims talking, becouse others were constantly getting in the way. Having a peaceful family meal is also out of question in sims 4. The sims don't even stay still. They walk around, change seats, talk, go to the computer, dance, they just never stop moving around, getting throught random emotions. What the heck, that was painful. What happens to me after some time I play with Sims 4, and for some time I mean not more than two hours, is that I get bored and stressed, in the same time. Stressed for the puddles in the bathroom, stressed by the teacher that call you becouse the child is only on B level, stressed for the abilities, that are so hard to level up after level 5. And the carrers? I's almost impossible to get to level 10 of carrer in a sim lifetime. And the people stalking your household, getting in and trolling the forum at your pc, messing around. I'm sorry, guys, I really can't understand how you can love this game if you have played the Sims 3.

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Re: Rate the Sims 4
« Reply #82 on: March 20, 2015, 04:09:11 PM »
 I played the Sims 3 for most of the years it was out, and I can say I don't prefer either over the other. You have to remember that 4 is in the early stages and it will get better, Sims 3 sucked at this stage in the game, but now it's amazing. Sims 4 is easy to play and it is lag free, which is a pleasant change from the constantly freezing Sims 3. I'm not saying your opinion is wrong or bad or anything, I'm just saying thats exactly what is is, an opinion. I think once people get out of comparing it to Sims 3, and they look at it objectively then they'll see that the game can be really good.

My rating is staying a 5, I'm very proud of EA on this one and I'm so happy to see where they're going with the expansion and I'm very excited to see where they bring it from here.

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Re: Rate the Sims 4
« Reply #83 on: March 21, 2015, 02:43:37 AM »
Before the game launch and for a few months after I did nothing but hate on #4 and even posted some of my "annoyed" thoughts online. I finally caved and bought the game at a deep discount the day after Christmas as I refused to pay more than $40 for a game that was so lacking. As those days were a little fuzzy looking back I do believe that I played for 48 hours straight without nodding off much. I was lucky as I came into the game after many of the new updates had already been implemented and more kept coming. Thinking back on #3, I have to say that #4 has a much better foundation to work from. The biggest downside to #3 was the enormous amount of bugs built into the game that made playing it for more than 30 minutes really frustrating. Save early and often was all that could be done to prevent huge losses to complex builds and story lines. EAxis has listened to the player community this time around and built a game that has excellent evolutionary power. The thing that impresses me the most is not necessarily the game itself but that fact that EA is not gouging the life out of their customers any longer. DLC so far is limited to game packs and expansions and gone are the days where adding simple aesthetic and small playable elements are sold bit by bit with simpoints. I love the Gallery and very impressed how the game has been created to accept mods and CC with ease. Instead of working in competition against modders, EAxis now realizes that working together will only make the game so much better. And! after all that the game plays 100x more smoothly with new elements added in almost monthly. This indicates to me the intentions of EAxis going forward and for that I give the game 5 stars.

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Re: Rate the Sims 4
« Reply #84 on: March 21, 2015, 04:44:58 AM »
Personally I think it's average. It's lacking some features that should be there from the beginning but I presume they'll add those in expansions. It also has a few bugs but to be fair so did the Sims 3. The neighbourhoods are a bit small for my tastes and I was really irritated by the loading screen at first but I'm more used to it now. I had to stop comparing the Sims 3 with all my expansions to the Sims 4 with no expansions and I enjoyed it a lot more but it definitely has room for improvement.

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Re: Rate the Sims 4
« Reply #85 on: June 27, 2015, 12:21:00 AM »
 Let me first start by stating that I absolutely hated Sims 3 for years and stopped playing for some time.  Then I read Carl's Sims 3 Guide and learned all the things I could do and I ended up loving.  Initially I am getting the same feeling about Sims 4.  Not having a lot of fun with it and it seems like more work than entertainment.  However, I'm planning to take some time and delve into Carl's Sims 4 Guide and see if it will change my mind yet again.  P.S. I am in no way related to Carl or Pam and this is not a Paid advertisement, I'm just stating a fact.

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Re: Rate the Sims 4
« Reply #86 on: August 02, 2015, 03:31:51 PM »
I am so confused to give a score. EA made a great job on the core of the game, the animation and interaction, the emotion system. If you feel overwhelmed you can just slow the aging and let your sims live and do what they like to do: it seems to me this side was well tested and the result is brilliant, i see a real progress especially if you stop running for skilling only.

So i spent some hundreds of hours with TS4 but soon i got limited enough to go back play my sims3.

In TS4 the most painful to me is to go out of your house, leaving the other members on their own. I can't even imagine sending 8 members in 8 different location at the same time, it s already a nightmare with only one.
I still prefer saving every 1 hour and restart my TS3 game after a day or so, but i am so at ease with my 120 sims and 60 or so customized houses in an open world, all aging. Took me some time to stop saving each new baby!

So i say play it, EA did a great job here with TS4 as long as you can accept to stay most of the time in your house. GTW give me the same satisfaction, i got a better working experience as a TS3 rabbithole but i run into the same problem, i am only managing 1 sim not my whole household at the same time.

I can wait TS5 or TS6 the next gen which will let us go outside again with ease. I hope.

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Re: Rate the Sims 4
« Reply #87 on: December 26, 2015, 04:07:26 PM »
I'm honestly so confused by this game. Even when I try and not compare it to Sims 3, I can't help but wonder why EA decided to get rid of so many amazing features that made Sims 3 so popular. Even just the new 'teleportation' and the fact that children age up from babies straight to children would put me off the game by themselves. I did like the new create-a-sim, although it was strange that you can no longer customise colours or clothes and instead have to choose from about 20 options. Also, I don't know if it was just my computer, but the game started to lag only an hour after I started playing for the first time! Overall, I'm very disappointed with this game. The only new feature I've noticed has been the emotions, which to be honest are an inconvenience. There are less traits to choose from and they have a less significant impact on your sims life, to the point that they barely make a difference at all. I've only been playing it a few hours and already I've given up and gone back to Sims 3.

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Re: Rate the Sims 4
« Reply #88 on: December 27, 2015, 08:09:12 AM »
Would have to check the first post to see whether the vote is still open (will do that after this) but whether it is or not is irrelevant as I totally adore this game and give it a 5 star rating! Do I have bugs? Yes, as anyone who's seen some of my posts will know, I have had quite a few, but none of them have broken my game the way some of the S3 bugs did *EA+Maxis please do not take this as a challenge lol* anyway, that was just my 10cents worth... Love this game and haven't played S3 since I got it!

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Re: Rate the Sims 4
« Reply #89 on: January 09, 2016, 01:42:45 PM »
I think it's just an ok game. I don't have nearly as much fun playing this game as I did Sims 3. I really miss the color wheel. I like decorating and find it hard to do in this game. It gets boring to me quickly and I run out of things for my sims to do very quickly. I'm not bashing the game, so, please don't take it that way.

I also don't like the loading screens and really miss the open worlds. Open worlds made it easier to play with a full household of sims. I could have sims at different venues doing different things at the same time. In Sims 4, I tend to only play with a few sims and I feel like I have to take them all off the home lot at the same time because the sims that aren't being played don't do anything or won't continue doing what you have left them doing. I know you can have them build skills or socialize, but, it's just not the same as having an open world where I can quickly switch from one sim to the other like I can in Sims 3.

 

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