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Re: Rate the Sims 4
« Reply #50 on: September 25, 2014, 05:58:56 PM »
I've done the math again, and with 393 votes, the game still holds its score of 4.1

Thank you, Kosto. I have to say that we shouldn't have anything to worry about as far as Expansions. EA has described Sims 4 sales as strong through their affiliate program that I participate in. It is already clear to me that this one is outdoing The Sims Medieval, as traffic is much better for the game. That game got an Expansion, so I do not expect any issues and think the studio must be hard at work on patching this up and likely developing the first Expansion. Obviously, if it's selling 'strong' now, the holidays will really amp it up :)

Our site growth with The Sims 3 reflected the sales of the game. We saw a big bump in visitors around the Holidays of '09, and bigger bumps with World Adventures and the following Summer.

Traffic right now makes me feel like this is at least competitive with Sims 3 sales. I am thankful for that, as Forum traffic is down a bit due to this being a sort of between-times for the franchise. Not to worry though, as a lot of people will get the game as January approaches, and an Expansion will draw a lot of interest for those still on the fence.

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Re: Rate the Sims 4
« Reply #51 on: September 26, 2014, 12:18:49 AM »
I gave the game 4 stars.

A few days ago, I went in search of reviews to help me decide whether or not to purchase the game. I too ran across the horrible game reviews on amazon. I have been playing Sims since the original game and I've loved every new game. So I was very surprised. My wise husband suggested, I watch some let's plays on YouTube. I found one that looked good and after only a few minutes I wanted to get the game in spite of the missing features that had been listed by other posters.

I've been playing for a few days now and I can definitely see some of the negative aspects. I don't have a major issue with any one thing. I just find myself being frustrated with the gameplay. I don't feel like I can do what I want and more than once I've sat staring at the screen and saying "now what should I do...?". I just don't remember feeling this way with other base games.

In the past when I got the new game, I didn't look back. All I wanted to do was play the new one because it just seemed so much better. Since I bought Sims 4, I have been giving equal time to Sims 3. I'm not ready to move on.

I rated the first three stars because it is a pretty good game and I don't have major complaints. Even the changes I don't like make some sense. Some changes I didn't know I wanted but I love (like the timer on food so you know if it will be spoiled by the time your Sim makes his little way over to grab a plate). The fourth star is because I just love the Sims franchise so much and I really do think each expansion will improve upon the base game.

I'm sorry it's not the out-of-this-world experience I was hoping for. But I still feel like I'm getting my money's worth.



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Re: Rate the Sims 4
« Reply #52 on: September 26, 2014, 12:50:37 AM »
I really tried to like it.  I thought I had an open mind, I KNOW it's a whole new game and not to be compared with TS3.  I was bored with TS3 and really wanted this new game.  But I am having a very difficult time with this game, and find it a chore to play.  I just got the game three days ago, but normally I'd have been playing it 15 hours a day.  I haven't even loaded it since noon day before yesterday, because I simply do not want to play it.

I do like the multitasking.  But I don't like the neighborhoods, the loading screens, the flatness, and the extreme moodiness.  My sim pees too much.  He doesn't seem to be very good at making friends, although I have him flag down everyone that walks past, and then invite them over or call them every day.  His social is always low, because he won't stay on the phone with anyone long enough to get it up.  The navigation is very difficult to me, even though I have it set for the TS3 version.  I think CAS is terrible, the sims turn out ugly no matter what I do with them.  I miss the Create-a-Style, I love decorating the sims' houses, and don't seem able to do that any more.  I also don't find the building to be much better.  The alphabetized catalog with a search is an improvement, though.  I haven't had children yet (heaven knows, I can barely keep one sim's motives up, I don't know how I'd handle a multi-sim household) but it's going to be very disconcerting to watch an 8 year old leap out of the bassinet.  I don't find the available careers interesting, and they're hard to promote in.

I'm going to keep on trying to play it.   I didn't like TS3 at first, either (although I liked it better than I like this game).  But the whole thing seems to be like something the developers just cobbled together and rushed to get out onto store shelves, it's not well planned or well executed.

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Re: Rate the Sims 4
« Reply #53 on: September 27, 2014, 08:20:11 PM »
Well I rated it a four, because personally I'm having a lot of fun with the game.  Sure there are some areas that need improvement, but improvement will happen in time. Besides, was it my imagination, or did we have the same 'Drama' back when Sims 3 was released?

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Re: Rate the Sims 4
« Reply #54 on: September 28, 2014, 12:50:41 PM »
At the moment I'm over my initial hatred of the game but I'm finding it boring.  I will often choose to play something else, even spider solitaire often has more appeal to me than Sims4.  However, I've finally gotten my head wrapped around the fact that this is just the base game, and base games often aren't at their best at first, (although I did not find that true with Sims3 which was fabulous for me from the get go).  I stopped comparing Sims4 with S3 and that helped a lot to change my mind from "man, I wasted my money!", to "ok, let's give this a fair shot".  There are a lot of things in Sims4 I like, some things I struggle with, and some things I strongly dislike, and I'm not talking about the many, many bugs.  My mindset is, "oh, that's a bug, ok", and move on.  Bugs don't bug me.  I just find a way around or ignore the items or situations that cause them.  I do think S4 is buggier than S3 was initially but there are so many different mechanics that needed to be addressed it really is no wonder there are a lot of bugs.  I'm pretty technology challenged so I want a game that I can just go into and have fun and not have to "work" at.  Right now I am having to work at Sims4 rather than play Sims4 so it only got a 2 from me at the moment.  I'm perfectly willing to have my mind and vote changed on this and am hopeful I'll be able to change it as I play more and learn more.
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Re: Rate the Sims 4
« Reply #55 on: September 29, 2014, 07:51:04 AM »
I ranked it as a five star game because I am loving it. I know there are a lot to be fixed and I do miss toddlers, but, to me, it was worth the multitasking and new interactions. I have been playing the sims franchise since the begining and I hated TS3. To the point that I stoped playing and buying expansions after the first two. I also loved TS2 and one of the things that made me decide to give TS4 a chance was the many reviews that said it had a TS2 feeling. I agree with them in the sense that it is much more apealing to the way I play than TS3. I am a control freak and hated (hated) the story progression on TS3. The way it happens in TS4 (and it does) is way better.
I have a lot of wishes, though, not only for new features as for old characters. I loved the Brokes and the Pleasants and would like to see them again. I do like the Goths in TS4.

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Re: Rate the Sims 4
« Reply #56 on: September 29, 2014, 12:53:09 PM »
Hi i registered to vote. I want to explain my rating (even though it's 4 stars so no bad ratings at all)
The game shouldn't get 4 stars yet imo. The main reason I give the extra one is cause reading the main sims forum and seeing the ''Guru's'' really listen to players I have a feeling the annoying things (that are for me a minimum btw) will be solved.

I understand people miss todlers and pools but i hate the fase that i had to learn them walk and talk so for me it was the best cut out ever. And pools I mainly made to look at them in the garden.

What for me really made the Sims 4 is that I now can build my own cool houses. In Sims 3 they always looked like big boxes with a stupid roof cause I couldn't make them as cool as the community. Now my houses look like how I want them. Still nothing compared to the rest but for me it's okay. Saves me a lot of downloads.
Multitasking. The fact they take a book to the toilet or phone there makes me laugh so much.
I have a much better feeling about the Sims 4 then I had about the Sims 3.

Sorry for the long story but I saw that the Sims 4 needed some honest opinions so here it is.



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Re: Rate the Sims 4
« Reply #57 on: September 30, 2014, 01:59:26 AM »
I rated 4 stars because so far I am absolutely loving the game. I think all the animations are really good and always make me laugh, also there is still a lot to do. I really like the gallery because it is so easy to download my favorite houses and sims. I also really like CAS and think that its really easy to make nice sims, also i love, love, love build mode. I thought I would miss toddlers, but honestly I find it's easier especially when having multiples because you don't have to teach them to walk and talk. I really love the look of the game and so far it is running smoothly but occasionally there are a few glitches but nothing that cant be easily fixed with exiting and re-entering the game. I know a lot of people are disappointed with this but I am not one of them, and I cant wait for the expansions to come.

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Re: Rate the Sims 4
« Reply #58 on: September 30, 2014, 08:26:25 AM »
It's better then I expected, but I still gave it three stars, the gameplay and the CAS are excellent, but I miss the CASt, toddlers, pools, and other cut features. It's gonna be a long wait for the expansion packs but it'll be worth it! I really hit me hard when there were no cars, but I see potential in this game.

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Re: Rate the Sims 4
« Reply #59 on: October 01, 2014, 04:25:32 AM »
I gave it a solid 4 stars; I'm enjoying it quite a bit.

Reasons why it's not a 5-star game:

1. Achievements are save based rather than player based; if I want to start a new save to try something new I'll have to earn all the same badges all over again.
2. Unlockables are Sim based rather than save based or family based, meaning that when my chef Sim dies those counters she got will disappear and her kids won't be able to buy new ones unless they too go through the steps for the Chef career. That's going to feel pretty repetitive; if I get too frustrated with that I might just go ahead and install one of the mods that automatically unlocks everything, but I'll probably wait a few generations first.
3. Bugs are making game frustrating in some cases and unplayable in others.
4. I'm not a rotational player by habit; I'd rather concentrate on one family, maybe two or three at the most...but in order to get my Sim's children (now at three) to advance in their skills and careers I'm forced to play rotationally. A basic Story Progression that would allow Sims to advance their skills and career/aspiration progress on their own, but not necessarily match them up with anyone else (and a way to turn off aspects of SP for those who reallly don't want it) would be an awesome addition.


I'm looking forward to new towns/worlds and new venues -- I'm hoping for a dance club of some sort as well as an open restaurant. I really like the expanded interactions that Sims have with each other -- sometimes it feels like Sims 3 was more about the worlds than about the Sims, and with Sims 4 the emphasis is back where it belongs.

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Re: Rate the Sims 4
« Reply #60 on: October 02, 2014, 05:24:25 PM »
I've been trying really hard to like 4 as much as I liked 3 but I'm sad to say, it's just not happening. The most significant thing 4 has done for me is to make me appreciate anew how good a game 3 is.  After a few days of 4, I reloaded 3 to see if I was imagining things or if I truly liked 3 better.  To be fair, I started a completely fresh 3 game, from the ground up, beginning with Create A Sim.

For a fair comparison, I compared Vanilla 4 (which is all we have) to Vanilla 3.  My 3 has only Ambitions, World Adventures and Late Night.  Absolutely NO mods and NO CC.  Since I also have the Prima guide for 3, I can easily tell what features in my game are purely vanilla and which come from expansions.  For the last few weeks, I've been alternating between both games. 

In a nutshell, vanilla 3 is a heartier (and, in my opinion, better) game than vanilla 4.  While playing 4, I find myself frequently saying "I wish I could do xyz like I could in 3".  While playing 3, I rarely find myself wishing it had features from 4.

Things I really wish had been brought forward from 3 to 4:
  • Open world -- I abhor the loading screens.  Mine last at LEAST 45 seconds each and completely break immersion.  I don't want to leave the house because of them.
  • CASt -- I truly miss being able to make my own color/pattern schemes
  • Variety of furniture, clothes and accessories -- 4 is VERY limited (and the furniture is mostly plug-ugly)
  • Fireplaces with chimneys -- I can't stand the drop-in fireplaces.
  • Rabbit holes -- yep, I miss them.  Shops, restaurants (OH how I miss restaurants), City Hall, the movies...
  • Favorites -- although 3 should allowed favorites to play a bigger role in setting up moodlets
  • Bright lights -- 4 is just too dark
  • Socializing at work -- why socialize at work in 4 -- it doesn't make any difference
  • Setting a date, time and place for parties
  • Video game consoles -- what an odd thing to leave out!
  • Transportation -- I don't care if it's a personal car, but come on, taxis, buses, bikes... even skateboards, give me some sort of transportation
  • Swimming -- I don't need a pool in my backyard but let me swim in a community pool, at the gym, in a pond, river (ew) or lake, which brings me to...
  • Beaches -- where is the beach???
  • Firefighters, cops, burglars, maids, dishwashers, lawn/garden sprinklers
  • And, of course, proper babies and toddlers
Of course, there are things in 4 that I wish were in 3, such as:
  • Multi-tasking -- nice to increase fun and/or skilling while eating in front of the TV
  • Objectives -- I like having to meet objectives for a promotion, for example
  • Narrow upper cabinets -- upper cabinets should not extend out as far as base cabinets, and in 4, they don't
  • Round-edge cabinets
  • Phone is part of the UI now
  • Random outfits -- if I give my sim 3 sets of everyday clothes, s/he'll randomly choose what to wear for the day.  Nice!
  • Different foods/activities play a part in maintaining waistline (or not!  :o)
  • Keyboard shortcuts! -- so many time while playing 3, I've been hitting the letter "o" to bring up my needs panel...whoops
There are many more items for both lists but I think you get the idea. 

Basically, what I really would have liked is for 4 to be Sims 3, Remastered.  It is not.  The things that were added are not enough to make up for the things that aren't there.  That said, I'll still play 4.  I've already played enough to get my money's worth out of it, so I don't regret the purchase.  I just feel there was an opportunity to make 4 a stellar move forward, but it didn't happen.  Did I mention how much I hate the loading screens?

I voted 3 stars.




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Re: Rate the Sims 4
« Reply #61 on: October 02, 2014, 08:00:52 PM »
I agree with almost 100% of what SimPoseyYum said.  I'm still playing, hoping I won't be bored out of my skull for too much longer. I rated the game a 3. There are fabulous improvements - LOVE the searchable catalog; will be worth it's weight in gold when the catalog expands. I spent so much time in 3 trolling for specific objects that were in the oddest categories once I found them! I couldn't care less about toddlers (or babies, or teens, honestly). CAS is over-rated; all the Sims look alike because of the limited hair and clothing choices. I really, really, really miss CASt. One of my favorite parts of Sims 3 was creating my own patterns, and then experimenting with them in game. Yes, 3 is laggy and I understand that CASt and the color wheel in CAS made it sluggish....but it was so much more FUN! In 3, I spent as much, if not more, time playing "outside" of the actual game; building, creating Sims and new clothing with patterns. I miss that a lot. I don't like that you have to enter the game to get to the Gallery; it was great being able to scroll through all of the new Sims and lots outside of the game. I like the multi-tasking. That said, there's not much to DO in game. I'm heartily sick of fishing and digging and looking for frogs...yawn! What is with all those "Sim Trophies"?? They don't "do" anything amusing, like the gnomes did. And they ALL enhance "playfulness"...overkill, IMHO. I'm glad there's a new patch that adds some eye colors and other enhancements. I hope this doesn't sound too negative; I'm trying hard to be fair, but I'm disappointed with many of the things that were hyped to be such huge improvements (e.g.; CAS), and really are not.

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Re: Rate the Sims 4
« Reply #62 on: October 02, 2014, 08:14:25 PM »
@justme2, I don't know why you say that the unlockables that one sim got disappear when he or she dies. My legacy family (on Gen 3) is still using the computer that the founder obtained, and they've added some things from family inventory that were never used during his life. I'll have to check my family inventory, but I know if there's something you'll want later on but can't use right now, you can place it in your game and then put it back in family inventory and it will still be there after the sim has died.

Edit to add: I just checked my family inventory and things that I never put in my game are there as well even though the person who unlocked them has died. I won't be able to buy others, but I might be able to place them and use the eyedropper -- I haven't tried that.
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Re: Rate the Sims 4
« Reply #63 on: October 03, 2014, 11:10:00 PM »
First, Carl & Pam, thank you so much for your guides to The Sims. I only began in 2011 and would have been really lost without these guides. I also like how fast you make them. Watching this one grow has been a wonder. I am forever grateful for all of your work.

I gave The Sims 4 a 4.5 and I'll explain why. I've been playing the game since the day it came out, often six or more hours at a time. I feel very lucky that I have had not one glitches though I know others have. Oh, I do have one minor one, the puddles of water in the garden won't dry up. No biggie.

Some of my biggest complaints about The Sims 3 were fixed with The Sims 4. It used to drive me crazy that you would take your sim out to the "HotSpot" for the night and there would be one or two sims there. And no one would interact with you. That was so frustrating. I would go to the gym or any of the other beloved places in The Sims 3 and there would be one or two sims at the very most. My experience with The Sims 4 has been a joy in this aspect because when you go to the gym or to the club it seem every sim in town and several from Oasis Springs are there. I even have trouble getting my sims to have a date out because there are always several sims joining the table and taking over the conversation. Even when my sim was trying to find Sylvan Glade he had trouble completing the steps because people would just come up to talk to him. Bella Goth or Nancy Landgraab is always showing up at the house so I'm not sure what is happening for whoever can't make friends but my sim doesn't have enough time to keep up with all their friends. You know, after missing that in the last game, I didn't even mind.

I also see that several of you have missed the post that Carl put in a BIG blue box about pools coming back in November. Not that my sims ever did more than tread water in them. Not sure why they are such a big deal except that they are pretty. And rabbitholes used to drive me crazy. You know, I used to take all of them and put them together in several basements on a 64x64 lot.

I also enjoy the Aspirations. My sims have completed several in the last month and gotten some pretty fine rewards for doing so. In The Sims 3 I would choose Jack of All Trades just to make the Lifetime Wish last longer though I didn't get a reward until it was done. Oh, and I can build a house now. I can actually build a pretty darn nice house now which is wonderful. And my mods will be in the game instead of imported, though I did use the ones from TwistedMexican which are actually pretty great. For anyone missing MOO, you just have to try his mod for this. It works perfect.

There are only a couple of things I don't like. The first is the oft mentioned camera movement. Not at all smooth and sometimes I find myself cussing at it. The other thing is how long they are gone to work, then have to come home and do their daily homework for work which gets longer as they progress. They barely have time to eat before they have to go to bed let alone take care of a garden. So their only fun is on their days off but if those are not together then they don't get to have fun together. Thank heaven one date can refill that romance line even when it is more than half empty. So there's a positive out of a bad one. It's a good game. I'm glad I wasn't around for the change from The Sims 2 to The Sims 3 if this is what went on.

P.S. Carl, thanks for the heads up about Amazon. I'm a reviewer over their and I get a lot of "Helpful" votes. I just went onto page for The Sims 4 and did a bold headline that said **BEWARE OF REVIEWS!! MOST OF THEM DON'T OWN THE GAME** I put it under every iteration of the game. Hope it helps.

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Re: Rate the Sims 4
« Reply #64 on: October 06, 2014, 04:38:05 PM »
Thanks for your effort to enlighten people about bad reviews on Amazon, natashaspy. The pools weren't announced until Oct 1, but they are indeed missing from the game right now. I am sure some of us will reevaluate it then, since I am allowing people to change their vote on this poll. I am also sure that the November patch that brings pools will also come with bugfixes, so we're all looking forward to that one.

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« Reply #65 on: October 07, 2014, 07:14:27 PM »
Hi,

Please remember that this is only my opinion!  I have to admit, I was a little disappointment.  I have been playing The Sims since it first came out.  Like others, I had to stop comparing The Sims 4 to the 3rd installment of the series.  The building capabilities are outstanding!!  The new interactions the sims have not only with each other, but also with objects is just great.  I love that they mimic so much of real life.  I also really appreciate the ability to have a conversation with more than one person!!

That said....

I am disappointed with what Maxis decided to release.  Once I started playing the game, I wish I would have waited for the prices to come down.  I feel like this is a revamp of the 1st generation of the came.  As the generations evolved, they always got better.  I feel as though this was a step back in terms of game play.  Yes, I know, I am contradicting myself.  There are certainly aspects of this new release that are much better.  However, now I am waiting to pay for features they could have already included.  I understand that Maxis is a business and that they need to make money.  But don't take me all the way back to the beginning just because you need a long line up of expansion packs.  I feel as though the first release in the next generation was a slap in the face and as of I were taken advantage of.

That said...

Yes, I will continue to play and purchase these games.  I am hopelessly addicted to and in love with these games.  I am a cancer patient, and these game help me to escape.  I just wish they would have released the game in a different way.  Yes I know, there are a lot of new players to welcome into the family.  HOWEVER, there are those of us who have been there from the beginning.  It would have been nice to have been thought of when they decided what they were going to include or remove.

If you have made it this far, thank you!!

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« Reply #66 on: October 08, 2014, 12:24:41 AM »
@alfiajamel  You may have missed recent announcements from EA regarding content to be released in patches between now and December for FREE.  This content will include pools and more careers.

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« Reply #67 on: October 09, 2014, 08:25:25 PM »
I changed my vote from 4 up to a 5. I thought about it for a while and based on my enjoyment TS4 is an easy 5. I could go into a long winded explanation why but basically it's all the many, many small things that I just love. All those sim interactions with each other, the facial expressions, the gestures and the way that emotions change all these. It's just a fantastic base game.
I know there are bugs etc, I'm playing around a lot of these in my generational game but, meh, <shrugs> makes no change to how much I am simply enjoying playing.
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« Reply #68 on: October 10, 2014, 07:59:27 PM »
I have also changed my vote. I'm starting to get into the game a lot more now and thanks to the recent patches that have been announced, I think it definitely deserves a 5.

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« Reply #69 on: October 10, 2014, 11:57:21 PM »
I pre-purchased Sims 4 the day they announced it LOL and yet I find myself going back to Sims 3. My main disappointment with TS4 is the lack of open-world play. Having a loading screen in-between each place in town is absolutely painful, it doesn't allow me to truly immserse myself in the character play.

Having said that, I do remember when TS3 was released, I didn't like it at all compared to TS2. It took a long time for me to adjust, and eventually I loved TS3. Hopefully this will be true of TS4 as well.

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« Reply #70 on: October 11, 2014, 07:11:11 PM »
I rated this game a 4. Just to give some perspective for this review, the only Sims games I have played before this were MySims on the DS when I was like seven, and, more recently, Sim City 4. So this really is my first main "Sims" game, and I've been really enjoying it. Because it's EA I was a bit hesitant to buy it (youtube lets plays put the original idea in my head), but with the help of a "consult the helix fossil" site (yes, I'm a pokemon fan. problem?) I made the decision to buy it. I waited about an hour for it to download, and, starting at like 9:30 at night, I played for what seemed like just a little while, until my mom came in and told me it was 2 in the morning. Out of a week of owning this game, I've played it 28 hours (by origin's count), and that's with 8 hours of my day being in high school with honors classes for five of them. It is really really addicting, and I really have enjoyed it. The only fault I have with this game are the load screens, kind of detracting from the openness of it. It makes it somewhat annoying when one of my sims wants to go work out at the gym and I don't want to wait through a load screen. It makes my sims basically stay in the house unless completely necessary, and I don't like that. It doesn't affect me too much, as the work I've put into getting my sims really high-paying jobs makes it trivial to buy a treadmill to exercise on. Overall, especially for people new to the series, I recommend it. It's lacking a little, but nothing that can't be fixed by the FREE content updates we're getting. And for the veterans of the series, take it as its own game, not a sequel in a series.

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« Reply #71 on: October 22, 2014, 12:32:00 PM »
I rated 5 stars for sims 4.  It is absolute an very good game and good looking, and every game has to start in the basics as we know, well if the basic is very good then games can only be better  :) really looking forward to development of this game. And yes sadly it is true, many people vote negative cause others say so. Well I find that if you do not own something and not have tested or tried it, then you should not Judge it. Thumb up for EA  :D

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Re: Rate the Sims 4
« Reply #72 on: October 24, 2014, 01:40:40 PM »
I ranked it a 4-star.  I haven't played any of the previous Sims games, so all the missing content wasn't really an issue for me.  I've enjoyed the game quite a bit, and have spent a lot of time exploring the different jobs and aspirations.  I really only have a couple (moderately minor) complaints. 

The time doesn't always go into super speed when you're sleeping/at a job.  I don't know if people have figured out how to fix this one yet...  for me, 90% of the time it was an issue with my radio.  I would go to work, realize my time wasnt speeding up, turn off my radio in the room I was in last, and bam it sped up.  Sometimes I would have to turn off the laser light show as well. 

Secondly, I don't like how easy it is to "force" a Sim into feeling the way you want them to.  I don't know how previous games worked, but the emotions system in Sims 4 needs to be a little harder.  It's extremely easy to avoid being in any bad mood, and its pretty easy to "lock" yourself into a "Very emotional" state.  All you need is the +10 environment picture (or a series of smaller environment items) to get to +3 happy, enough emotional paintings to get +3 emotion from that, and then another +2 from anywhere else.  Usually easily obtained by looking at an emotional painting and listening to the radio while you work.  Adding a laser light show like I mentioned earlier pretty much gives you a cheap (and permanent) +1 happy moodlet near it. 

To sum up that last one, it's extremely easy to get to and stay at a very emotional state.  Even when you're low on hygiene, or just got back from a rough day at work, or maybe you're just feeling naturally sad or angry...  you can step into a well decorated room and listen to some music and suddenly you're ready to grind out a book, or hack the National Security Agency. 

I think that negative emotions should in fact count as a negative to your current emotional state, so if you've got +5 inspired and +5 happy, being exhausted (-3) will still drop you into just Inspired (+7) instead of Very inspired.  Or something like that, so there's actually some incentive to working with your Sims emotions instead of just brute forcing them into the right one.

Outside of that, there's a couple of small issues, mostly minor glitches, like moodlets not properly updating when Sims change rooms. Or Sims refusing to clean up, saying they don't have a path (when they obviously do).  The fact that the Sims don't seem to build their own relationships, jobs, or anything else unless you're actively at a site with them is annoying, they should automatically advance their skills and job based on what aspiration they have while they are "offscreen".  For people like me, that play mostly in their house, it's annoying to stroll around town and find it exactly the same as it was 3 sim weeks ago.   A bunch more minor issues that I can't really think of off the top of my head. 

I think if I had played previous Sims games, my rating would probably be a 3 instead, as it IS an amazing game, and a looks like a great building board for future expansions and/or content.  But it still has a bunch of glitches/game-play that could be fixed or streamlined.  Given that they've already released new content, and announced that more free stuff is planned, I'd say I'm very happy with the game, and can only get happier.
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Re: Rate the Sims 4
« Reply #73 on: October 24, 2014, 06:31:35 PM »
To See Results Without Voting, Click View Results Under the Poll

Taking a day off from guide-writing, I saw some threads ranting on The Sims 4 at the official Forum. In response, I've written an article about hatred in gaming particularly as it affects franchises. Ranking or reviewing games (or any other product) as a user is to help guide others who are considering purchasing it. Yet, non-owners vote on retailers' sites and review sites in order to attempt to discredit or protest against games like The Sims 4. This is a relatively new phenomenon that is affecting the gaming industry.

People who love the franchise put a negative mark on the new game, making it more likely to fail, and they do this out of a love for the past titles. This can skew results permanently. Look at the difference in my article between Amazon.com, a frequent target of this type of protest, and Best Buy - which has more game owners reviewing the title. Notice the crazy amount of 1-star votes that Diablo 3 received when they had server trouble the first few days after launch. Only research and the opinions of other owners can help you decide if a game is right for you.

I believe that only owners of games should vote or review them, because if they have not played them, they do not know how enjoyable a game truly is. There are pros and cons to the Sims 4. Therefore,

Please only vote if you own the game!

No ranting here - if you want to give it a low score, just do so. If you'd like to give a balanced opinion, that would be welcome. Rants will be deleted without notice.

Many people will skip my big article, but here's one of the main points:


Amazon.com users voting without owning the game



Best Buy users who own the title reviewing The Sims 4






I have noticed that a lot of people that do not own the game do this. After so much time and effort and money put into making a game, people mark it as 1 star even though they do not own the game. Now that is not right. People need to play the game and own it in order to make a decision. I have the game and have been using Carl's guide for a long time. Atleast since Sims 3. And Carl, fantastic job. Without you, I would not have been able to do what I enjoy doing with the Sims than what I have done. Great job. In regards to Sims 4, I like the upgrade. The graphics are incredible and a huge improvement. Just like from Sims to Sims 2. Huge improvement. I believe expansion packs will follow soon, just as a base game it introduces the 'Upgraded Sims' game. It's incredible. Just makes me wonder what Maxis has in store for Sims 5. Great job Carl and Maxis. Thank you.

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Re: Rate the Sims 4
« Reply #74 on: October 25, 2014, 09:20:53 PM »
I played The Sims from the beginning and I bought most of the expansions packs. I didn't care much for some of them but in general I was quite happy with the game. The Sims 4 I pre-ordered from Amazon and I got in September. I installed it and I create my first Sim, I didn't like it much, clothes are really ugly and even wasting 3 hours I couldn't create a Sim I liked. When I tried to build the house things went worse.  I haven't played since.  I might have another try after the first expansion,but never before I was so disappointed by The Sims.
Even with the base game before I played hours and hours, this one leaves me cold and I just can't find the will to click on it.