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Re: The Sims 4 Immortal Dynasty Challenge
« Reply #1250 on: June 11, 2015, 11:53:55 AM »
I'm trying to complete my founder's party requirements and I have a question about hosts.  If I use two hosts will both get credit for a gold medal?  Not sure if this is posted in the right thread, so apologies if so.

If your founder is the one that needs the party requirement, your founder should be the one to throw the party, one host. 

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Re: The Sims 4 Immortal Dynasty Challenge
« Reply #1251 on: June 11, 2015, 12:03:47 PM »
Ruling question:

I have a cow plant.  I make one of my helpers eat the "cake" in order to get the essence.  Following that, the helper goes and eats the cake automatically while they still have the moodlet, before I can notice and stop them from doing so.  Does that fail my dynasty, or would that be considered accidental?

Yes, this is consider accidental death.  You are free to continue playing the challenge. 

Be careful, if this happens again in the same dynasty the team might not rule this accidental the second time.



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Re: The Sims 4 Immortal Dynasty Challenge
« Reply #1252 on: June 11, 2015, 12:06:35 PM »
Oof.  I just had my spare child go from 2 creative skill to 10 while she was building her Motor skill with keyboard commander. 

A search of the EA forums has mentions of this bug, but no known reason why it happens.  it apparently only happens when playing keyboard commander.  My heir didn't get the bug, because she already had max creativity before I started working on her motor skills.

Fortunately she's *not* my heir and she is in the Motor skill aspiration, so her creative suddenly maxxing out on her didn't add to her aspiration points.

You may need to rule that no kid plays it unless they have a maxxed creativity skill.  I need to know if I can keep going with this game, or roll back to a previous save.

Yes you can keep going with this game.

Team - should we add another rule in about the keyboard commader bug?  Or should we leave it and deal with bug individually (like have them use cheat to lower the creativity score)?

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« Reply #1253 on: June 11, 2015, 12:12:01 PM »
I'd rather the solution that doesn't involve cheating.
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Re: The Sims 4 Immortal Dynasty Challenge
« Reply #1254 on: June 11, 2015, 12:43:31 PM »
Team - should we add another rule in about the keyboard commader bug?  Or should we leave it and deal with bug individually (like have them use cheat to lower the creativity score)?

I'd rather the solution that doesn't involve cheating.

Agree with Trip. Let's ban a child playing that particular game unless they already have maxed Creativity.

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« Reply #1255 on: June 11, 2015, 12:44:29 PM »
Isn't playing that game necessary in order to do the rambunctious scamp aspiration?  They need to make a high score in a typing game.

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« Reply #1256 on: June 11, 2015, 12:53:46 PM »
Isn't playing that game necessary in order to do the rambunctious scamp aspiration?  They need to make a high score in a typing game.

Clay is correct.  From my experience with the bug however, it doesn't happen immediately, you should be able to get the high score without it going off.
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Re: The Sims 4 Immortal Dynasty Challenge
« Reply #1257 on: June 11, 2015, 01:53:39 PM »
Plus, I thought in the case of non-immortals, things like cow plant death, when not deliberate, and gaining aspirations others have maxed, didn't matter.  It only mattered if two heirs maxed out something like creativity and you wanted it for a unique aspiration.  So my helpers and spares, (non-immortals), can all share aspirations, skills, careers etc. without it ruining a dynasty.

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« Reply #1258 on: June 11, 2015, 02:09:10 PM »
Joria is right, that is why I say MissTrips can continue with her game.

For heirs though, its going to be a little tougher.  We cannot ban keyboard commander, yet the bug exist and we rather not use cheat to solve the problem.  May I suggest putting a line in the rule that warn players NOT to use keyboard commander to level motor skill (use monkey bar instead) and to save prior to playing keyboard commander for rambuctious aspiration?  If the bug goes off while the player is trying to finish the aspiration, we can always have them go back to the save and try again.  Thoughts?

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Re: The Sims 4 Immortal Dynasty Challenge
« Reply #1259 on: June 11, 2015, 02:34:53 PM »
I know that I am not a moderator, and my opinion really doesn't mean anything but in terms of my immortal dynasty I play sometimes, I wanted to add something to this leveling creative while playing keyboard commander debate.  In my opinion, it is easy enough to do every childhood aspiration in the span of being a child if the player chooses to.  Even if you did rambunctious scamp before artistic prodigy and ended up getting the creativity skill bug playing the game, what is really to gain here?  You would still have to do every step of the artistic prodigy aspiration, which pretty much levels creativity itself.  Maxing the skill alone does nothing for your sim, only if you complete the aspiration do you get the reward trait.  So, I don't see why it matters. 

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« Reply #1260 on: June 11, 2015, 05:58:52 PM »
It must be quite a random bug as I have never struck it. Which is quite rare for me as I seem to usually get them all! I make all my heirs do all 4 of the childhood aspirations and I have managed to get the high score without this bug happening every time. Mind you, I mostly do use the monkey bars for levelling motor skill and my kids only use the commander keyboard until the high score requirement has checked off.
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Re: The Sims 4 Immortal Dynasty Challenge
« Reply #1261 on: June 11, 2015, 06:26:36 PM »
My question is: this only affects Childhood aspirations.  Because there are only 4, there can't be any unique ones, so I'm not sure why this particular bug would be of such concern.  Maybe I'm missing some advantage, but I'm genuinely curious.  It is entirely possible I'm missing something XD

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« Reply #1262 on: June 11, 2015, 06:36:38 PM »
My question is: this only affects Childhood aspirations.  Because there are only 4, there can't be any unique ones, so I'm not sure why this particular bug would be of such concern.  Maybe I'm missing some advantage, but I'm genuinely curious.  It is entirely possible I'm missing something XD

The bug levels you from 0 to 10 creativity in the span of about 30 seconds.  While it's not an issue by dynasty rules, it does basically remove hours of skilling that would have to be done later.  I don't think this is a huge issue, as it's possible (and easy) to get all 4 aspirations done anyways, but depending on how focused on skilling you are, it could make the difference between completing or failing to finish the creative aspiration.
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Re: The Sims 4 Immortal Dynasty Challenge
« Reply #1263 on: June 11, 2015, 06:52:41 PM »
The bug levels you from 0 to 10 creativity in the span of about 30 seconds.  While it's not an issue by dynasty rules, it does basically remove hours of skilling that would have to be done later.  I don't think this is a huge issue, as it's possible (and easy) to get all 4 aspirations done anyways, but depending on how focused on skilling you are, it could make the difference between completing or failing to finish the creative aspiration.

Oh, I see.  I didn't realize it was that fast.  That is quite fast, though I would make the argument that I've never found leveling creativity to be difficult or that time consuming.  30 seconds is a bit much heh, but I would say leveling creativity is easily done in a sim day.  At least for me.

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Re: The Sims 4 Immortal Dynasty Challenge
« Reply #1264 on: June 11, 2015, 07:39:38 PM »
Joria is right, that is why I say MissTrips can continue with her game.

For heirs though, its going to be a little tougher.  We cannot ban keyboard commander, yet the bug exist and we rather not use cheat to solve the problem.  May I suggest putting a line in the rule that warn players NOT to use keyboard commander to level motor skill (use monkey bar instead) and to save prior to playing keyboard commander for rambuctious aspiration?  If the bug goes off while the player is trying to finish the aspiration, we can always have them go back to the save and try again.  Thoughts?

Sounds fair to me although I agree with the others in thinking it really doesn't matter that much no matter how fast you gain.  You still have to complete everything so it seems like it's no big deal.

On a different note, I played around with the new world a bit today.  It's lovely and has a nice dynasty size lot but you'd either have to make some rules about placing other houses/Sims there or make it a spot where you can only put in venues.  I put two really pretty cottages in and will populate with my Sims.  My understanding is it won't self populate if all you do is put in houses but my houses are currently empty so we'll see.
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Re: The Sims 4 Immortal Dynasty Challenge
« Reply #1265 on: June 11, 2015, 08:04:19 PM »
On a different note, I played around with the new world a bit today.  It's lovely and has a nice dynasty size lot but you'd either have to make some rules about placing other houses/Sims there or make it a spot where you can only put in venues.  I put two really pretty cottages in and will populate with my Sims.  My understanding is it won't self populate if all you do is put in houses but my houses are currently empty so we'll see.

Yes the team is discussing Newcrest.  Will update the dynasty rule once we decided what to do.

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Re: The Sims 4 Immortal Dynasty Challenge
« Reply #1266 on: June 11, 2015, 09:35:12 PM »
None of the lots are as large as the ones we already have.   :'(
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Re: The Sims 4 Immortal Dynasty Challenge
« Reply #1267 on: June 12, 2015, 08:19:47 PM »
I have been wondering if the Rewards also include potions. It would seem they do, but I just want to be sure.
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« Reply #1268 on: June 12, 2015, 08:47:40 PM »
@SFL They do. I think it would be nearly impossible to complete the rewards requirement without it.

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« Reply #1269 on: June 13, 2015, 03:20:19 AM »
@SFL They do. I think it would be nearly impossible to complete the rewards requirement without it.
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Re: The Sims 4 Immortal Dynasty Challenge
« Reply #1270 on: June 13, 2015, 12:23:25 PM »
I wanted to let everyone know about the new update that added in a new neighborhood to Sims 4, Newcrest. I'm sure the mods know about it - it's a full clean neighborhood with nobody living in a house there and no houses - it's just nothing but empty lots. I am starting an Unofficial Immortal Dynasty so I will be following rules and using Willow Creek, but what is the ruling about Newcrest? For the record, this is a 50x40 lot there but I'm guessing the mods want you to have a 50 square area lot so that lot is not allowed, but I will let the mods deal with it.

I might try something else there if I get motivated.
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Re: The Sims 4 Immortal Dynasty Challenge
« Reply #1271 on: June 13, 2015, 12:54:53 PM »
I wanted to let everyone know about the new update that added in a new neighborhood to Sims 4, Newcrest. I'm sure the mods know about it - it's a full clean neighborhood with nobody living in a house there and no houses - it's just nothing but empty lots. I am starting an Unofficial Immortal Dynasty so I will be following rules and using Willow Creek, but what is the ruling about Newcrest? For the record, this is a 50x40 lot there but I'm guessing the mods want you to have a 50 square area lot so that lot is not allowed, but I will let the mods deal with it.

I might try something else there if I get motivated.

I've already started a new file and am filling New Crest.  I have three builders from the "official" forum whose work I really enjoy and follow so New Crest 1 will be full of their builds.  I'll populate it mostly with my people.  New Crest 2 I'll redo all the worlds, leaving the original townies in the first two worlds and only repopulating New Crest itself but that time I want #carlsguide builds and Sims.  It's a really pretty world but so far Ken and Barbie Doll have not found a place to fish there.  I'd be interested to hear and see what you do there, so get motivated dude~~!  I don't see how the team can allow it for a dynasty, but I bet Metro will be able to come up with a fabulous challenge using that world.
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Re: The Sims 4 Immortal Dynasty Challenge
« Reply #1272 on: June 13, 2015, 12:56:26 PM »
We are just waiting on all the mods / team members to provide feedback on Newcrest.  We should have official ruling by end of next week.

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« Reply #1273 on: June 13, 2015, 01:15:52 PM »
We are just waiting on all the mods / team members to provide feedback on Newcrest.  We should have official ruling by end of next week.

Yeah, like Joria said not sure we can allow Newcrest given the existing restrictions of Manage World - we'd have to allow a bunch of concessions to use Manage World to make it Dynasty ready. Plus, there's no 50 X 50 lot, so there would be inconsistency with the other two Dynasty lots.

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« Reply #1274 on: June 13, 2015, 01:53:30 PM »
Yeah, like Joria said not sure we can allow Newcrest given the existing restrictions of Manage World - we'd have to allow a bunch of concessions to use Manage World to make it Dynasty ready. Plus, there's no 50 X 50 lot, so there would be inconsistency with the other two Dynasty lots.

So that's your cue to come up with an excellent other type of challenge.  Right?
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