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Re: The Sims 4 Immortal Dynasty Challenge
« Reply #400 on: November 26, 2014, 08:53:57 AM »
I understand the BFF rule as follows with this example: founder is friends with friend 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, and BFF 6. The second gen can be friends with 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, but BFF 7.

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Re: The Sims 4 Immortal Dynasty Challenge
« Reply #401 on: November 26, 2014, 09:04:38 AM »
I understand the BFF rule as follows with this example: founder is friends with friend 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, and BFF 6. The second gen can be friends with 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, but BFF 7.
That was my understanding of the rule as well.
I haven't played a family long enough yet to see if the town gets emptied out, we might need to discuss things with the Dynasty team if it becomes a real issue for all or most of us.



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Re: The Sims 4 Immortal Dynasty Challenge
« Reply #402 on: November 26, 2014, 09:33:20 AM »
I thought unique bff meant no 2 sims could have the same bff but the bff could still be the good friend of someone else.

Well, in my opinion it does not really make them unique anymore if a BFF of one heir is a Good Friend to another. It's a matter of semantics and I suppose if you want to get nit picky you're right. But, in my opinion any BFF is totally off the table for all other heirs. That was how it was intended to make things harder.

Team, if you are ok with that, then clarify the rule. I am ok with going with dethdukk's interpretation as well - I do not want to see Dynasties in mid stream to fail because of it.

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Re: The Sims 4 Immortal Dynasty Challenge
« Reply #403 on: November 26, 2014, 10:08:26 AM »
"Have six Good Friends not in the household at the time of eating Ambrosia for the first time. Other Heirs can share these Good Friends except one needs to be a unique B.F.F (ask to be Best Friends). "

I myself interpret it just like dethdukk, no 2 sims could have the same bff but the bff could still be good friends with someone else.  The confusing part was the line "other heirs can share these good friends" -- and in the beginning we have "have six good friends". 

For those that already started with their dynasty, let's just give them a pass and not fail them because of this BFF wording situation.  We need to reword that to reflect what Metropolis Man have in mind.  Any suggestion on how to reword that rule?

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Re: The Sims 4 Immortal Dynasty Challenge
« Reply #404 on: November 26, 2014, 10:18:59 AM »
How about going forward  from today, each heir needs 5 Good friends. (Can be shared) each heir needs 1 BFF (ask to be Best Friends) that is Unique to each heir, for a total of 6 Friends.

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« Reply #405 on: November 26, 2014, 10:22:21 AM »
Any suggestion on how to reword that rule?
How about:
Have 5 Good Friends that aren't part of your household at the time of eating ambrosia for the first time. Other heirs can share these Good Friends.
Have 1 unique BFF (ask to be Best Friends) not in the household at the time of eating ambrosia for the first time. The BFF must not have been a Good Friend of another Immortal nor any future Immortal.


I personally think separating the two parts would be clearest.

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« Reply #406 on: November 26, 2014, 10:25:35 AM »
How about:
Have 5 Good Friends that aren't part of your household at the time of eating ambrosia for the first time. Other heirs can share these Good Friends.
Have 1 unique BFF (ask to be Best Friends) not in the household at the time of eating ambrosia for the first time. The BFF must not have been a Good Friend of another Immortal nor any future Immortal.


I personally think separating the two parts would be clearest.

I both understand, and agree with this wording.
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Re: The Sims 4 Immortal Dynasty Challenge
« Reply #407 on: November 26, 2014, 10:46:54 AM »
Well when metropolis man made the rule, he wanted the numbers to match the requirements.  Like rule #1 -- have ONE career, rule #2 -- have TWO aspirations, rule #3 -- have THREE skills, etc etc.

Originally rule #6 was have 6 friends only, later he added the unique BFF on.  I'm sure he wants to stick with rule numbers matching the requirements. 

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Re: The Sims 4 Immortal Dynasty Challenge
« Reply #408 on: November 26, 2014, 11:12:44 AM »
What about:
6. Have six Good Friends not in the household at the time of eating Ambrosia for the first time. Other Heirs can share these Good Friends except one needs to be a unique B.F.F (ask to be Best Friends). This B.F.F cannot be a Good Friend or B.F.F to any other Heir.  Don’t worry if friendships deteriorate after Ambrosia has been eaten.

If people have made the mistake by now and they do not have the time to change friends, I would say they should be allowed to continue their attempt.

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« Reply #409 on: November 26, 2014, 11:50:58 AM »
Okay, the one extra sentence Lena suggested I think was a good one and I added it just now. Thank you, Lena.

And I agree that if you went on the assumption that the BFF COULD be a Good Friend of another heir and you do not have time to change things without messing up your Dynasty, fine. You get a free pass. But, now everyone is clear, so from this point on in anyone's Dynasty - please have all future heirs follow the new friends rule that any heir's BFF is totally off limits for other Heirs.

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Re: The Sims 4 Immortal Dynasty Challenge
« Reply #410 on: November 26, 2014, 12:42:23 PM »
I do wish the team would re-think the rule that good friends can't be members of the same household. I'm on generation 5 of another game, and for a while the only living sims in my town were members of my household. In that same game, my sim became the boyfriend of a sim who was not living in a house, and she was culled from the game the next day. I understand the desire to make things difficult, but I do think that when people get farther along in their dynasties, they will experience major problems with finding and keeping their good friends.


I just wanted to add that currently I am just at gen 3 and in Oasis Springs the only sims in a house apart from my family are ghosts. So there are NO living sims in any of the houses. Seeing as ghosts don't die, I am assuming that this will remain like this until the end of the game. In Willow Creek I have two living households and only one ghost household.

Could you make a rule that ghosts in houses could be evicted using Household Management so that would give the game a chance to replace them with living sims?
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Re: The Sims 4 Immortal Dynasty Challenge
« Reply #411 on: November 26, 2014, 01:04:09 PM »
Okay, the one extra sentence Lena suggested I think was a good one and I added it just now. Thank you, Lena.

And I agree that if you went on the assumption that the BFF COULD be a Good Friend of another heir and you do not have time to change things without messing up your Dynasty, fine. You get a free pass. But, now everyone is clear, so from this point on in anyone's Dynasty - please have all future heirs follow the new friends rule that any heir's BFF is totally off limits for other Heirs.

Thanks, and Happy Thanksgiving everyone.

Thanks Metro for clearning that up (and the other forum members!) I really thought that only the BFF had to be unique in the sense that no other heir could have that one as BFF, didn't know the good friends of one heir couldn't be the the BFF of another. I'm at generation three now and the first two generations share one friend (good friend of the founder, BFF of the second gen heir). I will make sure this won't happen for the third generation, since I'm still working on that. Glad we can do it like this, because I wouldn't want to start over.

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Re: The Sims 4 Immortal Dynasty Challenge
« Reply #412 on: November 26, 2014, 01:57:28 PM »
I do wish the team would re-think the rule that good friends can't be members of the same household. I'm on generation 5 of another game, and for a while the only living sims in my town were members of my household.

Yes the team will discuss this. 

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« Reply #413 on: November 27, 2014, 01:07:21 PM »
I'm not sure if this is a glitch in my game or if the newest patch did something to my game, but I am unable to have an adult read to the two children in my household.  I've tried several things, including opening the bookshelf and clicking on the children's book from there, having them place it in the world and then click on it.  I even sold the shelf then bought a new one, hoping it would help.  I only bring this up because being unable to read makes it impossible to complete at least 2 aspirations right off the bat (Whiz Kid for children and Successful Lineage for adults).  Does anyone have any other solutions or suggestions?  I know my other games have allowed me to do it before.  Though I'm already worried my founder is going to fail, I still have time, but if I can't figure this out, I don't know what to do.  I'll probably have to restart :(

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« Reply #414 on: November 27, 2014, 01:19:18 PM »
I'm not sure if this is a glitch in my game or if the newest patch did something to my game, but I am unable to have an adult read to the two children in my household.  I've tried several things, including opening the bookshelf and clicking on the children's book from there, having them place it in the world and then click on it.  I even sold the shelf then bought a new one, hoping it would help.  I only bring this up because being unable to read makes it impossible to complete at least 2 aspirations right off the bat (Whiz Kid for children and Successful Lineage for adults).  Does anyone have any other solutions or suggestions?  I know my other games have allowed me to do it before.  Though I'm already worried my founder is going to fail, I still have time, but if I can't figure this out, I don't know what to do.  I'll probably have to restart :(

I have not heard about anyone having this problem though.
Have you tried to do reset sim on the sims in question?

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Re: The Sims 4 Immortal Dynasty Challenge
« Reply #415 on: November 27, 2014, 01:44:48 PM »
And if you've done that, have you exited the game and restarted?
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Re: The Sims 4 Immortal Dynasty Challenge
« Reply #416 on: November 28, 2014, 12:09:11 AM »
I have not heard about anyone having this problem though.
Have you tried to do reset sim on the sims in question?

It's all Sims in question.  It seems to be that the objects themselves are bugged/glitched.  I haven't figured out how to reset objects in Sims 4 yet, nor do I know if I'm allowed to do it for the challenge.  Do you think a global reset might help?

And if you've done that, have you exited the game and restarted?

I have exited the game and restarted and still doesn't allow it.  It's very strange and I've never had something quite like this pop up.

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« Reply #417 on: November 28, 2014, 12:57:47 AM »
I'm not sure if this is a glitch in my game or if the newest patch did something to my game, but I am unable to have an adult read to the two children in my household.  I've tried several things, including opening the bookshelf and clicking on the children's book from there, having them place it in the world and then click on it.  I even sold the shelf then bought a new one, hoping it would help.  I only bring this up because being unable to read makes it impossible to complete at least 2 aspirations right off the bat (Whiz Kid for children and Successful Lineage for adults).  Does anyone have any other solutions or suggestions?  I know my other games have allowed me to do it before.  Though I'm already worried my founder is going to fail, I still have time, but if I can't figure this out, I don't know what to do.  I'll probably have to restart :(


I had a lot of difficulty getting Abi to read to child Lily. Each time Abi (the adult) got stuck and just sat there sort of wobbling her head. In the end I put the children's book on the floor in front of the couch, had Abi sit on couch, had Child sit on couch, clicked on the book with Abi, Abi picked up the book sat on the couch... and was able to read to child.

If I tried anywhere else in the house Abi would just get stuck.  I tried with the book in Abi's inventory while she and child were sitting on the couch but ABi got up and walked to the table.... and glitched out.  etc

Hope this helps somehow... it does seem as though it is glitched out but luckily I was able to make it work by mucking around for quite some time.
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Re: The Sims 4 Immortal Dynasty Challenge
« Reply #418 on: November 28, 2014, 02:09:51 AM »

I had a lot of difficulty getting Abi to read to child Lily. Each time Abi (the adult) got stuck and just sat there sort of wobbling her head. In the end I put the children's book on the floor in front of the couch, had Abi sit on couch, had Child sit on couch, clicked on the book with Abi, Abi picked up the book sat on the couch... and was able to read to child.

If I tried anywhere else in the house Abi would just get stuck.  I tried with the book in Abi's inventory while she and child were sitting on the couch but ABi got up and walked to the table.... and glitched out.  etc

Hope this helps somehow... it does seem as though it is glitched out but luckily I was able to make it work by mucking around for quite some time.

But did the option to actually read to the child come up?  I'm not even getting the option to read to the child.  It just doesn't show up.  All that comes up is Read 'Such-and-such Book' or 'Put Away'.  My Bookworm Sim gets 'Analyze' as well, but the option to 'Read to...' isn't there at all.

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« Reply #419 on: November 28, 2014, 02:36:34 AM »
But did the option to actually read to the child come up?  I'm not even getting the option to read to the child.  It just doesn't show up.  All that comes up is Read 'Such-and-such Book' or 'Put Away'.  My Bookworm Sim gets 'Analyze' as well, but the option to 'Read to...' isn't there at all.

Have you made sure its a childrens book too? Because if not the option will not show up.

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« Reply #420 on: November 28, 2014, 02:08:28 PM »
Have you made sure its a childrens book too? Because if not the option will not show up.

Yup, tried all the children's books in fact XD to see if only one or two were glitched.  But they all seem to be :(  I even had one of the helpers write a children's book and that didn't even work.

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Re: The Sims 4 Immortal Dynasty Challenge
« Reply #421 on: November 28, 2014, 09:23:28 PM »
Hi, everyone! It bugged me that I lost the challenge because of a stupid ghost, so I decided to devise a method of displaying food while also making it ghost-proof. Many of you probably already know how to do this, but here it is.

I added a second floor to my museum. I built my doorless, windowed food display room in the middle of the second floor. Then I deleted a one square space completely around the food display room. AFAIK ghosts can't fly. The ghost has been out three times now. Each time I've had people on the same floor as the food to encourage him to wander over that way and visit. So far the food has not been eaten. Anyway, thought I would share for anyone else thinking about displaying food and keeping ghosts.

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« Reply #422 on: November 28, 2014, 11:55:26 PM »
After much fiddling (and cursing), I finally fixed things.  I had already tried replacing the shelf that I got the books from once.  But I got the same kind of shelf to replace it.  But I went in game tonight and actually decided that, as a last resort to try a different shelf.  I didn't expect it to work, but it seems to have!  So if anyone finds issues with this later on, there's the solution... at least, this time XD

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Re: The Sims 4 Immortal Dynasty Challenge
« Reply #423 on: November 29, 2014, 03:17:27 AM »
Hi, everyone! It bugged me that I lost the challenge because of a stupid ghost, so I decided to devise a method of displaying food while also making it ghost-proof. Many of you probably already know how to do this, but here it is.

I added a second floor to my museum. I built my doorless, windowed food display room in the middle of the second floor. Then I deleted a one square space completely around the food display room. AFAIK ghosts can't fly. The ghost has been out three times now. Each time I've had people on the same floor as the food to encourage him to wander over that way and visit. So far the food has not been eaten. Anyway, thought I would share for anyone else thinking about displaying food and keeping ghosts.

Does this still work when you travel? Because as we well know, travelling seems to allow sims to get into (or out of) all sorts of places that they ordinarily couldn't.

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Re: The Sims 4 Immortal Dynasty Challenge
« Reply #424 on: November 29, 2014, 04:46:37 AM »

I just wanted to add that currently I am just at gen 3 and in Oasis Springs the only sims in a house apart from my family are ghosts. So there are NO living sims in any of the houses. Seeing as ghosts don't die, I am assuming that this will remain like this until the end of the game. In Willow Creek I have two living households and only one ghost household.

Could you make a rule that ghosts in houses could be evicted using Household Management so that would give the game a chance to replace them with living sims?

I got the same problem, I am at gen 3 as well. Oasis Springs has no living households whatsoever and Willow creek has maybe one or two houses with living sims in it. But there are still a lot of random spawning sims around right? at least I think there are in my game. If you go to the park or something. That way you can still make enough friends I assume.
Nevertheless I think that it is a shame that there are no more living sims living in the towns. Oasis springs is a ghost town now :P