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Re: 2015 Challenge Tournament Overview
« Reply #50 on: January 19, 2015, 08:12:54 PM »
I didn't see anything in the rules about the gallery.  If in individual challenge doesn't specifically prevent it, can you move your Sim(s) to an empty lot, enter buy mode, open the gallery and download a new house/lot to play in?

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Re: 2015 Challenge Tournament Overview
« Reply #51 on: January 19, 2015, 08:45:59 PM »
I didn't see anything in the rules about the gallery.  If in individual challenge doesn't specifically prevent it, can you move your Sim(s) to an empty lot, enter buy mode, open the gallery and download a new house/lot to play in?

That to me sounds like a potential exploit - as in the house you download could be totally decked out. You just need to work with existing homes or build your own.



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Re: 2015 Challenge Tournament Overview
« Reply #52 on: January 19, 2015, 09:06:45 PM »
That to me sounds like a potential exploit - as in the house you download could be totally decked out. You just need to work with existing homes or build your own.

Ah, I wondered if it could be - I haven't done much with building or with the gallery.  I was playing around with Outdoor Retreat and came back from vacation and didn't want to build a house, so I went to the gallery and found that most of them I couldn't afford.  :)  So I wondered if it still would be the same cost as if you built it, but just easier for those of us who aren't great builders.  So, since it wasn't in the rules, I was hoping . . .  ;D

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Re: 2015 Challenge Tournament Overview
« Reply #53 on: January 22, 2015, 06:30:46 PM »
Some of the team members recently were talking about intentionally killing Sims. This was a hot topic back in the day with Sims 3. As of now the team has NOT banned this practice in the General Rules for Tournament Challenges. It is of course banned in the Sims 4 Immortal Dynasty. There may be specific challenges where we do not allow killing, so just be aware of that.

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« Reply #54 on: January 23, 2015, 05:28:52 AM »
Some of the team members recently were talking about intentionally killing Sims. This was a hot topic back in the day with Sims 3. As of now the team has NOT banned this practice in the General Rules for Tournament Challenges. It is of course banned in the Sims 4 Immortal Dynasty. There may be specific challenges where we do not allow killing, so just be aware of that.
I haven't tried this, so I have a couple of questions about it.  Would you be able to have the Sim rejoin the house after intentionally killing them?  Also, how would this affect the Sim's age, if and if you did not bring them back to life with ambrosia or the book of life?

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Re: 2015 Challenge Tournament Overview
« Reply #55 on: January 23, 2015, 05:41:05 AM »
I haven't tried this, so I have a couple of questions about it.  Would you be able to have the Sim rejoin the house after intentionally killing them?  Also, how would this affect the Sim's age, if and if you did not bring them back to life with ambrosia or the book of life?

Maybe other team members know more about the whole dynamic than me because I am in the same boat as you and have not even tried it. If there is a potential exploit here than we need to know about it.

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Re: 2015 Challenge Tournament Overview
« Reply #56 on: January 23, 2015, 08:14:21 AM »
On a lot of challenges, we state that no life extention methods allowed.  If killing sim and bringing them back alters their age (like prolong them), it would be consider life extention, which is against the rules. 



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Re: 2015 Challenge Tournament Overview
« Reply #57 on: February 13, 2015, 09:42:51 PM »
I had an issue with the jobs challenge that I asked about after the event was closed in the thread for that challenge. As of the time I'm posting this, it is still the most recent post in that thread, so I thought I'd ask it in here as well. It was an issue that involved my sims progression towards the next level of their career. It went like this ... the first day they advanced in it through the colours of the progress bar from left to right.

On their next day of work, their progress bar had dropped considerably from where they had been the previous day back to the start again. It didn't matter what mood they were in, whether or not they had completed their daily task or anything else. It just kept on returning to the start. On the day after that it returned to the start again and didn't move at all.

I took them out of their first careers and put them into other careers with the same result. Yes, I spent the entire time of their ya and a lifespans trying to get it not to do that ... each of the jobs I tried was having that same effect.

To me this seemed like that bug that most were suffering from and was supposedly solved by that patch that was put out mid way through this challenge. Anyway, I had told the downloader to download the patch to my game and it indicated that it was done. And I started this challenge AFTER that point. By the way, my sim from the first challenge of 2015 managed to get to level 3 or 4 of his career.

In the first post in this thread, Metro says: You must always play your challenge file under the most current EA patch — this applies to before creating your file as well as the duration of the event.

I don't want to start on the next two challenges, only to discover that something has happened and I'm somehow not patched properly. I can get awful scores on my own, I don't need anything working against me that doesn't need to be working against me in these things. So, if someone could please help me out, I'd be ever so grateful.

Can someone tell me
1) How I go about ensuring my game is patched properly and up to date? Is there a number thing to look for like in Sims 3?
2) Whether the fact that I don't have that game pack would impact on the patch/what I'm experiencing in some way?

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Re: 2015 Challenge Tournament Overview
« Reply #58 on: February 14, 2015, 06:01:13 AM »
@Deklitch it does sound like a glitch or bug. I would try right clicking on the game in Origin and repairing the game. After I downloaded a few mods awhile back I was having some odd things happening with gardening and repairing the game along with clearing some cache files seemed to help. I also use AMD Gaming Evolved add on Raptr which really helps with the game's performance.

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Re: 2015 Challenge Tournament Overview
« Reply #59 on: February 14, 2015, 08:13:31 PM »
Given the frequency of the cooking bug, it might be a good idea to tell players in the Rules that they're allowed to use "repair game" (in the menu when you right-click on your game in Origin). This doesn't alter your game except to get rid of a bug that might have come with a patch.
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Re: 2015 Challenge Tournament Overview
« Reply #60 on: February 15, 2015, 04:28:55 AM »
When I encounter that bug I just restart my game. This seems to work every time so far.

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« Reply #61 on: February 15, 2015, 12:20:23 PM »
Although most are, there are some things not fixed by restarting the game.  Be careful when repairing you game, though.  It reset my achievements when I did it.  To me it was intuitive that repairing my game would be allowed.

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« Reply #62 on: February 15, 2015, 12:49:09 PM »
Although most are, there are some things not fixed by restarting the game.  Be careful when repairing you game, though.  It reset my achievements when I did it.  To me it was intuitive that repairing my game would be allowed.

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Re: 2015 Challenge Tournament Overview
« Reply #63 on: February 15, 2015, 10:15:01 PM »
I may be overstepping my bounds, but I was wondering if it would be possible to have a list of known bugs (mostly for things like the aspirations) and a fix that is challenge approved?  I know these things are supposed to be on a case by case basis but I have seen so many issues with the aspirations (whether completing before they are done or not completing when they are) that it seems it might be more efficient to make a list of the issues as well as approved solutions.  I apologize if I overstep anything, just thought I'd throw it out there to see what the team says.

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Re: 2015 Challenge Tournament Overview
« Reply #64 on: February 15, 2015, 11:51:37 PM »
Thanks all for your assistance and/or suggestions. I'll try those things to see if it makes a positive difference to my gameplay experience.

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Re: 2015 Challenge Tournament Overview
« Reply #65 on: February 16, 2015, 02:00:23 PM »
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I have a list of aspiration bugs on the baby boomer page, the premature completion bug.  As for those aspiration bug that won't complete even after you finish the requirement, we are just asking players to PM the team so we can approve it case by case basis, the fix for this issue is mostly using the aspiration milestone cheat.  Since it is a cheat, we like players to PM us instead of just randomly using it at will.  I am afraid if we put down "milestone cheat" approved, some players may abuse it (even if they miss something on the aspiration and did not complete it actually, all the while thinking they did).

Also EA changes the game a lot, sometimes aspiration bugs changes with the patch.  If EA comes out with a patch tomorrow, who knows what might change. 


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Re: 2015 Challenge Tournament Overview
« Reply #66 on: February 20, 2015, 09:30:52 AM »
My Sim had a whim to plant something while on a non-home lot. To my surprise, I was able to plant while in live mode. Would this be considered editing a non-home lot?  :-\
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Re: 2015 Challenge Tournament Overview
« Reply #67 on: March 24, 2015, 06:13:55 PM »
The team went back and forth and back and forth, so I finally decided to go with the simplest solution on a newly discovered potential exploit:

The Curator Aspiration - effective for March 26 events and later this Aspiration is banned due to a potential inventory exploit.

If you need more detail than what we are giving here, then PM the team. Otherwise, just never choose that Aspiration until a fix comes.

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Re: 2015 Challenge Tournament Overview
« Reply #68 on: March 25, 2015, 09:42:56 PM »
I’m really excited to find a website like this as well as a challenge tournament. I had been gone from the sims 2 and started up again play sims 4. I do have one question about the tournament. I'm not very bright at things like this. How do we do the score, do we figure out the score our selves and just leave a comment on the challenge.

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« Reply #69 on: March 25, 2015, 09:51:22 PM »
Welcome to our Forum, @AprilRose.  Yes, you figure out the score and leave a comment on the challenge post.  Every challenge is scored differently, and it will be posted on the challenge rules page individually.  If you are unsure of how to score your results, please PM the challenge team and we will help you out. 

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« Reply #70 on: March 25, 2015, 11:50:09 PM »
I know we can practice before a challenge starts, but can we do a practice run once the start date has passed, and then begin our scoring file a couple weeks in?
For example, can I start a practice file for Collecting tomorrow 3/26 and finish it in a week or two, and then start my actual scoring file in mid-April?
Also, can we do more than one practice run?

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« Reply #71 on: March 26, 2015, 05:43:06 AM »
I know we can practice before a challenge starts, but can we do a practice run once the start date has passed, and then begin our scoring file a couple weeks in?
For example, can I start a practice file for Collecting tomorrow 3/26 and finish it in a week or two, and then start my actual scoring file in mid-April?
Also, can we do more than one practice run?

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You can definitely do more than one practice run of any event, and as long as you submit your final score by the closing date you're fine.

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Re: 2015 Challenge Tournament Overview
« Reply #72 on: March 27, 2015, 06:10:53 AM »

The Curator Aspiration - effective for March 26 events and later this Aspiration is banned due to a potential inventory exploit.

The team has been quite busy as of late discussing this whole issue (and my thanks to Tixxis and ClayMask for joining in the discussion). Here's the bottom line: there is an exploit that exists involving moving things in and out of inventory. It has a big impact not only on the Curator Aspiration, but also the Outdoor Enthusiast Aspiration - both of these Aspirations have milestones containing "find x items" those kinds of things. So, what happens is let's say you have a crystal in your inventory - you left click the crystal, drag it a bit as if you were removing it and then place it back in. Bingo...the game now thinks you found another crystal.

So, this has a huge impact on the Aspirations because you can actually make progress on those various "find x items" milestones assuming you have one of the required items to begin with. This exploit also impacts Whims that fire regularly depending on a trait you may have or an Aspiration.

Here's what the team finally decided: The Tournament has always focused on honesty. You know you should not do these actions in the game. It's an exploit, and EA has it on their bug list. So, we have decided to remove the Aspiration ban from the General Rules - you are free to pursue it - just do it legit. Now everyone knows what's up, so just play nicely and steer clear of this exploit.

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Re: 2015 Challenge Tournament Overview
« Reply #73 on: March 27, 2015, 07:53:33 AM »
On the Curator Aspiration exploit, here's a question -- what if you've already found the items, but you did it at an earlier level? I'm thinking mainly of the requirement to get 15 insects in Outdoor Enthusiast. If you have 15 (or more) insects in your inventory, can you move them out and move them back in again? Or is it necessary to go to Granite Falls and catch another 15?
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Re: 2015 Challenge Tournament Overview
« Reply #74 on: March 27, 2015, 08:30:31 AM »
On the Curator Aspiration exploit, here's a question -- what if you've already found the items, but you did it at an earlier level? I'm thinking mainly of the requirement to get 15 insects in Outdoor Enthusiast. If you have 15 (or more) insects in your inventory, can you move them out and move them back in again? Or is it necessary to go to Granite Falls and catch another 15?

That's a tough one. Part of me say no because you'd be doing exactly what we're asking you not to do :). And then we'd have to make yet another exception and write it out. But, the other part of me says - why not? Your Sim did the work already and found those insects. Let's see what others say.

 

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