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Re: The Apocalypse Challenge Support Thread
« Reply #125 on: July 18, 2016, 04:58:23 AM »
In my wonderchild challenge that created my founder, I had to create and import a family with kids to do social butterfly as I could only find teens in the world.  As I can't do this (yet) in my AC challenge I decided to disable aging when I got a notification that one of the npc kids was having a birthday so I wouldn't have this problem.

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Re: The Apocalypse Challenge Support Thread
« Reply #126 on: July 18, 2016, 06:24:48 AM »
That makes a lot of sense really @HelenP it certainly makes it a lot less stressful and more fun to play when the rules around townies are a little freer than the ID rules.  :)
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Re: The Apocalypse Challenge Support Thread
« Reply #127 on: August 01, 2016, 09:48:10 AM »
Any suggestions please, on how to get gourmet cooking past level 6.  She has read the skill book the professorial sim wrote and is now bored of that. The discuss gourmet meals interaction has a time out and so can't be used often. So far only cleared management but will clear e-gamer soon, all other restrictions in place.  I've also already bought in the move in for her generation.  Have I made a huge mistake?

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Re: The Apocalypse Challenge Support Thread
« Reply #128 on: August 01, 2016, 04:50:32 PM »
@HelenP

I think I'd mentioned in an earlier post about the skill books. My Wonder-Child founder cleared the Chef career then joined the Author career in order to write skill books.
I'd found that the household members could never level past Level 6 with a sim-created skill book.
Anyone else in the household with Gourmet Cook skill can also "Discuss gourmet cooking" with your target sim, which will also slightly raise that skill.
But I don't know if you could raise it 2 more levels for maxing your Chef career.




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Re: The Apocalypse Challenge Support Thread
« Reply #129 on: August 02, 2016, 09:27:29 AM »
Thankfully she still has a while as she is only a teen.  I could get other household members to read the skill book so  there are more people for her to talk to.  I know you can raise cooking skill through a work interaction, can anyone remember if they can do the same with gourmet?

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Re: The Apocalypse Challenge Support Thread
« Reply #130 on: August 02, 2016, 03:18:45 PM »
This is what Pinstar wrote in a comment to his Apocalypse Challenge Rules about learning gourmet cooking:
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1. Start with a founder who already has an 8+ skill in gourmet cooking and have them lift the culinary restriction first.
2. Have a sim complete the Renaissance sim aspiration to pick up the perk that allows them to write skill books and write a gourmet cooking skill book.
3. Lift the author restriction first, allowing you to order books. Order gourmet cooking skill books and train up using them.

As we've learned, a sim-produced skill book can only take the reader to Level 6 (all my sims stopped at around 6.33%).
You might monitor how much your sim's Gourmet Cooking rises with each "Discuss gourmet cooking" social performed or received, so you can check if this would be a feasible strategy for reaching Level 8 by the time your now-teen sim reaches L9 of the Chef career.
If not, the other option would be to have that teen, when s/he's a young adult, clear either the Author or Oracle career instead.

Sorry I can't be more helpful...

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Re: The Apocalypse Challenge Support Thread
« Reply #131 on: August 03, 2016, 11:06:08 AM »
If she's still a teen and already at level 6 I think she'll be fine. The spilling social interactions generally remain powerful even at the higher levels, so just remember to do those as often as possible. If need be, I do believe she can level Gourmet Cooking at work. (It might not show up until the higher levels or until she maxes Cooking.)

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Re: The Apocalypse Challenge Support Thread
« Reply #132 on: August 03, 2016, 04:45:24 PM »
The skilling interaction seem to get between 1-5% at level 6, and I guess it will reduce as she goes up the levels.  It is also affected by the level of inspiredness. (Is that even a word?  :D).  She has maxed home cooking so I hope G cooking comes up as a work option early on otherwise I'll get bored of the 'discuss gourmet meal' interaction long before she does.

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Re: The Apocalypse Challenge Support Thread
« Reply #133 on: August 15, 2016, 12:26:11 AM »
Not sure if this has been asked before, but by placing the voidcritter battle station without lifting the e-sports gamer, have I just failed? The kids aren't using it to play, but are using it to train their voidcritters.. Thanks in advance!

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Re: The Apocalypse Challenge Support Thread
« Reply #134 on: August 20, 2016, 02:23:07 PM »
@KTK10
There's no official ruling on the VC battle station, as you know, since the AC rules haven't been updated since Get Together.
I would imagine that it should be treated like tablets and gaming gigs (under the eSports Gamer lock).
Pinstar has remarked that, if we make a mistake because of all the rules, just fix it and move on.
If I were you, I'd put away the battle station for now and continue playing (and your challenge isn't failed).

Others may interpret the battle station's categorization differently, though. So maybe wait for someone else to chime in?  @JudesSims @officialghosts @Caterina

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Re: The Apocalypse Challenge Support Thread
« Reply #135 on: August 20, 2016, 03:17:23 PM »
I would also categorize it under e-sport gaming. And, just put it away until later when it's cleared.

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Re: The Apocalypse Challenge Support Thread
« Reply #136 on: August 20, 2016, 03:26:07 PM »
I agree.

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Re: The Apocalypse Challenge Support Thread
« Reply #137 on: August 21, 2016, 02:02:13 AM »
Thank you so much guys! 😊

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Re: The Apocalypse Challenge Support Thread
« Reply #138 on: September 07, 2016, 12:34:40 PM »
This morning I had the thought that my Apocalypse Challenge actually ran on a false premise.

From the time my Gen2 firstborn cleared the Journalism career, I began using the bath soaks + incense as well as the thoughtful showers for career-related promotion boosts.
At the time, I'd just considered them different from those described under the Astronaut/Space Ranger restriction:
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You may not enable the mood auras on any mood aura objects.

I thought bath soaks, incense burners, and showers differed because they had no "enable/disable mood" switch. Now I'm wondering if that's just semantics.

Anyway, even if I'd played most of my Apocalypse Challenge under a rule violation, I still enjoyed the heck out of it. Not sure I would play it again, though. Maybe in the far future.
I'm thinking I should put a disclaimer somewhere in my story, though.

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Re: The Apocalypse Challenge Support Thread
« Reply #139 on: September 07, 2016, 07:12:52 PM »
So are you saying that taking a thoughtful shower or a brisk shower is using a mood item or whatever the wording is?  That's an interesting thought.

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Re: The Apocalypse Challenge Support Thread
« Reply #140 on: September 07, 2016, 09:47:27 PM »
So are you saying that taking a thoughtful shower or a brisk shower is using a mood item or whatever the wording is?  That's an interesting thought.

@Caterina
Thanks for replying. I don't know how baths/showers/incense burners fit because they aren't enabled/disabled.
I woke up this morning wondering if I should have restricted them under Astronaut/Space Ranger, though, so your opinion would also be appreciated. :)

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Re: The Apocalypse Challenge Support Thread
« Reply #141 on: September 07, 2016, 10:53:17 PM »
I think you could interpret it either way.  Technically, showers are not enabled/disabled so the rules would not exclude them.  However, I wonder if the intent is to not be able to benefit from mood changing or enhancing objects.

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Re: The Apocalypse Challenge Support Thread
« Reply #142 on: September 08, 2016, 12:26:17 PM »
Oshizu

I read it this way:  IF you must click on an object and you have the option to enable this object, then it is "forbidden" until you lift Astronaut/Space Ranger career. When you click on a shower there is no option to enable anything.

I do not think Pintar's intended we go through every minutes of this challenge with your Sims' needs in the red 75-90% of the time. I believe its meant  to be very difficult at the beginning, working our way to a normal life then a fantastic life for your Sims. To progress, along the way, there must be rewards to ease and improve your Sims life at home and at work. There are many restrictions (some straight forward, some vague) but there are also a lot of what you could called loopholes or read what's not restricted.

Also it is how hard you want to play this challenge. I personally decided to play this challenge with objects from the Base Game and Outdoor Retreat only. So Oshizu, I say, if I had a shower in the house, I would use all the options.


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Re: The Apocalypse Challenge Support Thread
« Reply #143 on: September 08, 2016, 01:13:52 PM »
I agree with Mack, and that's how I've been playing mine. I think thoughtful showers and baths with soaks are part of the reward for clearing the Journalist career.


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Re: The Apocalypse Challenge Support Thread
« Reply #144 on: September 11, 2016, 06:45:35 PM »
Collective wisdom needed please :D. Is there anything against using a book of life to resurrect a dead sim?  I can't find anything in Pinstars rules but I'm wondering if I've missed something. 

Background, Marcus Flex is level 8 bodybuilder but has just had his 1st notice from Grim.  If I bring him back, will he even have enough time to regain his lost promotions and max the career? Or should I count him as failed and move on?

Arrgh, so hard to decide what to do, please help.

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Re: The Apocalypse Challenge Support Thread
« Reply #145 on: September 11, 2016, 07:13:08 PM »
In my minimal experience, a revived sim may last one or two days longer.  I would count him as failed and move on.

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Re: The Apocalypse Challenge Support Thread
« Reply #146 on: September 11, 2016, 09:28:21 PM »
@HelenP

I found the following response by Pinstar to another simmer's inquiry about the Book of Life here: http://www.simslegacychallenge.com/sims-4-apocalypse-challenge-rules/
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There is nothing really locking down life-extending things in this challenge, mainly because you can only lift one restriction per sim, no matter how long they live.

So it seems okay to resurrect Marcus, although I had a non-Active sim who'd completed Bodybuilder who lived 20 days past his second notice.

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When previously bound to a living sim, a Book of Life can be used to summon that sim's ghost. Then, that ghost can be resurrected by reading his own Book of Life.
Hehe, I didn't actually know this before. I just went and read it on one of Carl's guides.

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Re: The Apocalypse Challenge Support Thread
« Reply #147 on: September 11, 2016, 09:54:07 PM »
@Caterina @Mack @FrancescaFiori

Thanks for sharing your thoughts on the bath soaks and showers issue.
I didn't want to leave my challenge as [Completed] if I'd somehow misinterpreted the rules for my own convenience.
Thanks for agreeing my read of the Space Ranger rule.  ;D

Eventually, I will add a section to one of the starting posts, explaining how I'd interpreted Pinstar's rules, like allowing meditation stools from the start but classifying massage tables and yoga mats under Bodybuilder.
Since the rules haven't been updated since forever, we have a lot of leeway in interpretation, but I just want to be clear.
So, thanks!

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Re: The Apocalypse Challenge Support Thread
« Reply #148 on: September 12, 2016, 01:12:24 AM »
I apologize.  I believe I have given wrong information.  I was answering the question based on resurrection by "pleading" not by resurrection by "the book of life".  I do not have answer for that.  It may depend on the method of returning to life after being a ghost.

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Re: The Apocalypse Challenge Support Thread
« Reply #149 on: September 12, 2016, 05:50:35 AM »
Thanks for all your replies, I think I will do a test in a separate file, kill him off and resurrect him to see how long he gets and where he re-enters the athlete career.  At least I won't break any rules if I do resurrect him.  Unfortunately his aspiration is friend of the world not bodybuilder so he doesn't have long-lived.

 

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