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Don't Put All Your Collectibles in One Basket
« on: April 24, 2017, 06:33:08 AM »
Don't Put All Your Collectibles in One Basket

Goal
Actually, you have 9 baskets for each of three households you will play — this is another rotational challenge. Each household may complete as many as 9 collections, and there may be overlap among the collections.

General Challenge Rules
The General Challenge Rules always apply. If applicable, exceptions will be noted below.

Specific Challenge Rules
  • Create 3 Young Adult Sims.
  • Options: Short Lifespan.
  • Options: Auto Age (played Sims) - Only Active Household .
  • Options: Auto Age (unplayed Sims) - unchecked.
  • No additions to households, and no moving after your 3 households are set up. Once your household is placed, move each of 2 Sims to separate lots or houses.
  • One lot trait at each household should be Private Dwelling.
  • All household income is strictly limited to selling collectibles.
  • If the game says that a collection is complete, then it's complete. You don't have to have elements that were added by expansions.
  • The Flea Market and its table are banned.
  • Play each household for 3 days at a time, switching between midnight and 2 a.m. Your 2nd household will start at midnight Wednesday, and your 3rd at midnight Saturday.
  • The May 25th patch added 2 days to the Short lifespan for YA and Adult. You'll need to play 7 3-day sessions for each of your Sims to get 20 days for each Sim.

Scoring
Your score is based on the total of household income of your 3 separate Sims times a multiplier, based on the number of complete collections your households have amassed. When you end the game, click on the diamond in the upper left corner of your Sim's personal inventory. That will bring up a list of collectibles and show how many complete collections you have. The multiplier is .1 per complete collection. Sell any collectibles that are left in your Sims' inventory to get your final household income.

Example: Sim A's household income was 32,000 simoleons and he had 2 complete collections; Sim B had 70,000 simoleons and 1 complete collection, and Sim C had 20,000 simoleons and no complete collections. 122,000 x 1.3 = 158,600.


Ch-Ch-Changes
The team does not want to edit and make changes to the ruleset once this event goes live, but we may have to. If an exploit is brought to our attention or we discover something else we reserve the right to ask affected players to redo their effort. Note: The bug which caused plants to increase in value appears to have been fixed. If you discover otherwise, please let us know.

Have Questions?
Please think hard before you ask in the challenge thread because it may be strategy. What you may consider an innocent question could cause another player to go — “oh, I did not think of doing that.” It’s always safer to PM everyone on the team (Metro, ratchie, MarianT, LenaLJ, and Trip) for clarifications. Thanks.

And the Winner is...
After this event has closed everyone is encouraged to discuss how they approached the event, but the winner especially is expected to do so in detail.

This Event is Now Closed

Player                                 Household A     Household B     Household C     Mult     Total
lesleyj42                            222,684240,055321,3562.602,038,647
GlazeyLady                            142,643196,582197,9563.601,933,852
LenaLJ                            201,455170,789162,8973.501,872,993
Isabelalabe                            157,467202,974237,5833.101,853,874
Ginj                            103,57094,79983,4152.40676,281
Eighty8Keys                            87,471107,637100,9911.90562,588
smastbrook                            117,016103,10468,6571.90548,676
Metropolis Man                            91,238106,42755,8921.50380,335
MarianT                            110,14237,45352,3131.90299,825
Windhavyn                            66,34246,79522,0331.70229,789
Whimsical Peanut                            52,14141,14455,6611.50223,419
sdhoey                            55,47039,58921,3101.80209,464
CynKuy                            57,01251,28649,4181.00157,716
coolsim9999999                            29,52432,45728,5031.0090,484
Pumpkinmelon                            25,67416,95623,9541.2079,900
MomOfMany                            25,99430,61716,7151.0073,326

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Re: Don't Put All Your Collectibles in One Basket
« Reply #1 on: April 24, 2017, 02:03:37 PM »
This challenge is also brilliantly planned.

I just....have terrible luck (or management skills?) with collections.  *shuffles away
Can't wait to start practicing for them both!



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Re: Don't Put All Your Collectibles in One Basket
« Reply #2 on: April 24, 2017, 04:01:10 PM »
I love this challenge idea, even though I really struggle with collections. I'm a little confused about the goal stating we can collect 9 different types of collectibles. I'm counting 13 plus two for expansion packs. Are some off limits, or am I misinterpreting something? To be honest, I don't think I need to worry about finishing more than 9.

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Re: Don't Put All Your Collectibles in One Basket
« Reply #3 on: April 24, 2017, 04:23:03 PM »
No collections are off limits. Not all players have all pack so we wanted to give everyone an equal chance. Also nine divided by three and there was a three theme going on lol.

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Re: Don't Put All Your Collectibles in One Basket
« Reply #4 on: April 24, 2017, 05:37:17 PM »
Just to be clear, we can collect any and all, but only 9 may be scored as complete across all three Sims? Or do I still have it wrong?

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Re: Don't Put All Your Collectibles in One Basket
« Reply #5 on: April 24, 2017, 05:46:15 PM »
About household rotation, do we divide Day 1 among our three sims, then play Sim #1 for Days 2, 3, and 4?
Or is how we choose to start rotating part of the strategy?

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Re: Don't Put All Your Collectibles in One Basket
« Reply #6 on: April 24, 2017, 06:00:28 PM »
About household rotation, do we divide Day 1 among our three sims, then play Sim #1 for Days 2, 3, and 4?
Or is how we choose to start rotating part of the strategy?

No, don't divide the first day up with your 3 Sims. It's your choice who you play first. Set up all 3 households first, then make a choice and play that Sim for three days.



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Re: Don't Put All Your Collectibles in One Basket
« Reply #7 on: April 24, 2017, 06:18:23 PM »
Thank you for the lightning-fast reply!

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Re: Don't Put All Your Collectibles in One Basket
« Reply #8 on: April 24, 2017, 06:31:53 PM »
@reggikko you have it correct. Collect what you wish but you may only count nine complete collections.

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Re: Don't Put All Your Collectibles in One Basket
« Reply #9 on: April 27, 2017, 11:00:41 AM »
I do have one question.  In gameplay do we age up played households or can we tick that off so that each household does have the full quota of their time, or do we have to tick age up played households, which only really gives them about 9 days? 

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Re: Don't Put All Your Collectibles in One Basket
« Reply #10 on: April 29, 2017, 12:53:54 PM »
In addition to turning off aging for unplayed houses (which I don't think has an impact on your file),  I'm thinking you also mean to choose age "only active household" - otherwise 2 of your sims are keep aging while you play the 3rd, as they are all considered "playable" the second you move them into the house together to start the challenge.

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Re: Don't Put All Your Collectibles in One Basket
« Reply #11 on: April 29, 2017, 10:25:59 PM »
@reggikko you have it correct. Collect what you wish but you may only count nine complete collections.

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I'm confused - do you choose 9 collections and all three households can collect any of those 9?  Or is each household limited to 9, but not necessarily the same 9 as the other households?  Also, if two households do complete the same collection, does that count for both households?

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Re: Don't Put All Your Collectibles in One Basket
« Reply #12 on: April 30, 2017, 10:58:03 AM »
@reggikko you have it correct. Collect what you wish but you may only count nine complete collections.

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I'm confused - do you choose 9 collections and all three households can collect any of those 9?  Or is each household limited to 9, but not necessarily the same 9 as the other households?  Also, if two households do complete the same collection, does that count for both households?

Off the top of my head I do not know the exact number of total collections in the game, but let's say it's 30. So, your Household A can only collect 9 out of 30 collections. Household B can also collect 9 out of the 30 available collections and there is crossover allowed -- i.e. both A and B could collect Fossils.

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Re: Don't Put All Your Collectibles in One Basket
« Reply #13 on: April 30, 2017, 12:01:07 PM »
So am I interpreting the scoring correctly in that each household can collect and sell items from any collection in order to increase their household funds, but when determining the multiplier, I can only count up to 9 complete collections per household. So if each household completed the maximum number of collections the multiplier would be 1 + (.9 x 3) = 3.7?

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« Reply #14 on: April 30, 2017, 12:45:18 PM »
So am I interpreting the scoring correctly in that each household can collect and sell items from any collection in order to increase their household funds, but when determining the multiplier, I can only count up to 9 complete collections per household. So if each household completed the maximum number of collections the multiplier would be 1 + (.9 x 3) = 3.7?

Each household is only allowed to collect 9 of the total different types of collectibles in the game. So, the income needed for each household would have to be based off of sales from whatever 9 types of collectibles you choose.

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Re: Don't Put All Your Collectibles in One Basket
« Reply #15 on: April 30, 2017, 12:58:10 PM »
So am I interpreting the scoring correctly in that each household can collect and sell items from any collection in order to increase their household funds, but when determining the multiplier, I can only count up to 9 complete collections per household. So if each household completed the maximum number of collections the multiplier would be 1 + (.9 x 3) = 3.7?

Each household is only allowed to collect 9 of the total different types of collectibles in the game. So, the income needed for each household would have to be based off of sales from whatever 9 types of collectibles you choose.

This is different to what Ratchie said to Reggikko up above?

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« Reply #16 on: April 30, 2017, 01:01:12 PM »
So am I interpreting the scoring correctly in that each household can collect and sell items from any collection in order to increase their household funds, but when determining the multiplier, I can only count up to 9 complete collections per household. So if each household completed the maximum number of collections the multiplier would be 1 + (.9 x 3) = 3.7?

Each household is only allowed to collect 9 of the total different types of collectibles in the game. So, the income needed for each household would have to be based off of sales from whatever 9 types of collectibles you choose.

This is different to what Ratchie said to Reggikko up above?

Then, she'll have to come in and have the final say since she wrote this rule set....I was interpreting from...


Goal
Actually, you have 3 baskets, one for each household. This is another rotational challenge, but your score is based on all 3 of your households. Each of your one-Sim households will be able to collect 9 different types of collectibles. Yes, there may be overlap among your households' collections.


It's the sentence that I bolded that might be confusing.

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Re: Don't Put All Your Collectibles in One Basket
« Reply #17 on: April 30, 2017, 02:56:56 PM »
@ratchie -- please clarify the above post. Thanks.

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« Reply #18 on: April 30, 2017, 03:13:19 PM »
Each household can collect whatever they want at the end of the challenge choose 9 unique complete collections per household and sell anything you don't need.
When replying to Reggikio I should have said 9 complete collections per household not just 9 complete collections.

Hope this makes sense.

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Re: Don't Put All Your Collectibles in One Basket
« Reply #19 on: April 30, 2017, 03:20:15 PM »
Here's the problem...for me at least...

Each household can collect whatever they want.

Then, from the intro Goal...

Each of your one-Sim households will be able to collect 9 different types of collectibles.

So, that kind of makes it sound like each household can only collect 9 different types. Maybe reword the intro?

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Re: Don't Put All Your Collectibles in One Basket
« Reply #20 on: April 30, 2017, 03:33:55 PM »
Play each household for 3 days and switch at midnight.

For the first sim, do we switch at the third midnight (Tuesday) or do we play 3 full days and then switch at the next midnight (Wednesday)?

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« Reply #21 on: April 30, 2017, 03:51:23 PM »
Hey, Rachel - if you want to keep this rotational ...i.e. every 3 days you change, that's fine. But, I'm wondering - do we need to? I mean would it make things easier on everyone as far as simplicity if you just played household A until the aged up to Elder, then boom - that's when you switch to household B, and so on. I do not care either way, I'm just thinking of would it make things easier.

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« Reply #22 on: April 30, 2017, 04:06:07 PM »
If it makes life easier then players can play the three households concurrently.

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Re: Don't Put All Your Collectibles in One Basket
« Reply #23 on: April 30, 2017, 04:10:11 PM »
If it makes life easier then players can play the three households concurrently.

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Concurrently?  Or consecutively?

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« Reply #24 on: April 30, 2017, 04:12:02 PM »
If it makes life easier then players can play the three households concurrently.

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Concurrently?  Or consecutively?

Play one until that one is done. Then play another.

Okay - let me reword a few things in the words, ratchie.

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Re: Don't Put All Your Collectibles in One Basket
« Reply #25 on: April 30, 2017, 06:29:29 PM »
The only thing is that when you create all three sims at once and then separate them, the game will still consider all of them as playable, because they have been "played." Your rules only indicate to turn off aging for unplayable, which will not stop two of your three sims from aging.  You also need to have Age only active household turned on.  I mentioned this yesterday, but my post was missed.

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« Reply #26 on: April 30, 2017, 06:50:39 PM »
The only thing is that when you create all three sims at once and then separate them, the game will still consider all of them as playable, because they have been "played." Your rules only indicate to turn off aging for unplayable, which will not stop two of your three sims from aging.  You also need to have Age only active household turned on.  I mentioned this yesterday, but my post was missed.

It might be easier to understand the Gameplay settings with an image.
This is what @simfulicious means by selecting "Age only active household."  (Correct me if I'm wrong, simfulicious)


I'm sorry to see that the rules have changed to playing one sim at a time until their elder birthday.
3 days at a time would have been really hectic, I think, but a week at a time would be very manageable.
You wouldn't consider offering weekly rotations as an option, would you? (I'm fine with a negative reply. It just never hurts to ask...)

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Re: Don't Put All Your Collectibles in One Basket
« Reply #27 on: April 30, 2017, 06:55:14 PM »
Exactly what I mean, Oshizu.  Thank you.

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« Reply #28 on: April 30, 2017, 08:02:12 PM »
Just to clarify we can only sell collectibles from the 9 collections we are scoring for that household?

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Re: Don't Put All Your Collectibles in One Basket
« Reply #29 on: May 01, 2017, 08:08:06 AM »
Changes:

Play each household for 3 days at a time, switching between midnight and 2 a.m. Your 2nd household will start at midnight Wednesday, and your 3rd at midnight Saturday.

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« Reply #30 on: May 01, 2017, 08:11:02 AM »
Just to clarify we can only sell collectibles from the 9 collections we are scoring for that household?

Actually, you may sell any collectibles, but you may only count 9 complete collections from each household.
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Re: Don't Put All Your Collectibles in One Basket
« Reply #31 on: May 01, 2017, 08:29:38 AM »
Thank you so much, Marian, for clarifying. :)

If anyone else is still confused about something in the rule set - we still have one week before this goes live. So, post your concerns.

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Re: Don't Put All Your Collectibles in One Basket
« Reply #32 on: May 01, 2017, 11:12:07 AM »
The only thing is that when you create all three sims at once and then separate them, the game will still consider all of them as playable, because they have been "played." Your rules only indicate to turn off aging for unplayable, which will not stop two of your three sims from aging.  You also need to have Age only active household turned on.  I mentioned this yesterday, but my post was missed.

Thanks, what you said above is what I meant, I worded it incorrectly :)  We must tick 'age only active household'.  Got it.

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« Reply #33 on: May 01, 2017, 05:00:24 PM »
@crstasse I am not a member of the team, so they need to say whether or not this is what they want to be done, which I see they have done in the main rules...so yeah, that's what you need to do.

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« Reply #34 on: May 01, 2017, 06:23:35 PM »
@crstasse I am not a member of the team, so they need to say whether or not this is what they want to be done, which I see they have done in the main rules...so yeah, that's what you need to do.

Which brings up the point that right before the event goes live make sure to reread the rules. The event's rules seems to be changing more than others in the past. But, I do not think there will be any more changes.

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« Reply #35 on: May 01, 2017, 08:26:03 PM »
I just read the changes to the rules, and I will again before I start my scoring file when the event goes live.   

The changes seem like they will make the challenge even better --- I had a pretty good practice file (and I had a good time playing it), but now, I think things will go even better in my scoring file :).
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« Reply #36 on: May 02, 2017, 04:58:37 AM »
We really do appreciate everyone's patience with us with all the chopping and changing.

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« Reply #37 on: May 02, 2017, 11:02:47 AM »
Great challenge, defiantly will take part in this one!

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« Reply #38 on: May 02, 2017, 11:18:44 AM »
Great challenge, defiantly will take part in this one!

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Re: Don't Put All Your Collectibles in One Basket
« Reply #39 on: May 06, 2017, 11:58:00 AM »
In my practice file, the game showed the splash in the middle of the screen for the completion of the fish and garden collections, and in the collection pane, the bar across the fish collection and the garden collection are colored yellow, like other completed collections.  But the fish and garden completed collections counter in the upper right is not being incremented for those because I haven't caught the fish from Granite Falls or acquired the plants from Sixam or Granite Falls. 

So my question is, when are the collections considered complete?  Is it when the game gives you the Completed Collection splash page and colors the bar yellow, or if you own the expansion packs are you required to also collect those items so the counter will increment?

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« Reply #40 on: May 06, 2017, 09:58:35 PM »
Okay. I think I've got it, but I want to make doubly sure before the challenge goes live. These collections do NOT have to be unique, correct?

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« Reply #41 on: May 07, 2017, 06:21:35 AM »
Okay. I think I've got it, but I want to make doubly sure before the challenge goes live. These collections do NOT have to be unique, correct?

Correct. There can be overlap with collections.

In my practice file, the game showed the splash in the middle of the screen for the completion of the fish and garden collections, and in the collection pane, the bar across the fish collection and the garden collection are colored yellow, like other completed collections.  But the fish and garden completed collections counter in the upper right is not being incremented for those because I haven't caught the fish from Granite Falls or acquired the plants from Sixam or Granite Falls. 

So my question is, when are the collections considered complete?  Is it when the game gives you the Completed Collection splash page and colors the bar yellow, or if you own the expansion packs are you required to also collect those items so the counter will increment?

It's when the game gives you the completed collection splash page and colors the bar yellow.

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« Reply #42 on: May 07, 2017, 09:02:47 AM »
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If the game says that a collection is complete, then it's complete. You don't have to have elements that were added by expansions.
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« Reply #43 on: May 09, 2017, 09:34:57 PM »
When my final Sim aged up to Elder, my households had garnered the following income via collecting:

Household A: §29,524

Household B: §32,457

Household C: §28,503

Combined Total for all 3 households:
§90,484

Full Collections: None --- so no multiplier
All 3 of my households almost got 1 collection apiece --- It was soooo close!

Final Total Score: §90,484
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« Reply #44 on: May 10, 2017, 04:12:26 AM »
Ohh coolsim9999999 you are always so fast :)

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« Reply #45 on: May 10, 2017, 05:51:03 AM »
Great job, coolsim :). Very speedy.

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« Reply #46 on: May 10, 2017, 07:48:36 AM »
Thanks Lena and Metro :)!  This was a great challenge, as always.
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Re: Don't Put All Your Collectibles in One Basket
« Reply #47 on: May 11, 2017, 09:40:28 AM »
I am sorry I am a bit slow and still have several questions.

-So I play 3 days each for the first two sims but get to play through the whole young adult and adult period of the last sim, right?
-Does the 'household income' mean the total money of the household or only the 'income' during that period?
-When I separate the household, is there any restriction to the lots they can move in? Only empty ones? So each sim will start with 20k in hands, correct?
-Am I allowed to garden? The income is limited to selling collectors, so income from gardening doesn't count but to finish the collection, am I allowed to garden for that?
-I assume that each sim cannot help the others by any means, right? No connections between them.

I am sorry for asking a lot of questions, some may seem nonsense but I want to join this challenge and play correctly by the rules. Thank you.

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« Reply #48 on: May 11, 2017, 09:53:40 AM »
I am sorry I am a bit slow and still have several questions.

-So I play 3 days each for the first two sims but get to play through the whole young adult and adult period of the last sim, right?
No, you'll play each household 3 days and then move on to the next.
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-Does the 'household income' mean the total money of the household or only the 'income' during that period?
Total.
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-When I separate the household, is there any restriction to the lots they can move in? Only empty ones? So each sim will start with 20k in hands, correct?
Your Sims can move anywhere they can afford. Keep in mind, though, that they won't be able to sell furniture, etc., as that would contribute to household income. And yes, each will start with 20K.
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-Am I allowed to garden? The income is limited to selling collectors, so income from gardening doesn't count but to finish the collection, am I allowed to garden for that?
You're allowed to garden and to sell what you grow. Fruits and vegetables are collectibles, so they count.
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-I assume that each sim cannot help the others by any means, right? No connections between them.
I'm not sure what you mean by "helping." Perhaps you should PM the team with specifics.
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Re: Don't Put All Your Collectibles in One Basket
« Reply #49 on: May 12, 2017, 01:23:51 PM »
Household A- 25,674
Household B- 16,956
Household C-23,954
Multipler- 1.2

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Re: Don't Put All Your Collectibles in One Basket
« Reply #50 on: May 15, 2017, 05:11:17 AM »
Olrik: §66,342 with 3 full collections
Lijien: §46,795 with 2 full collections

Sithe: §22,033 with 2 full collections

Combined Total for all 3 households:
§135,170

Multiplier: x 1.7

Grand Total: 229,789

That was so much fun! Thank you for this grand challenge.  ;D

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« Reply #51 on: May 15, 2017, 06:02:58 AM »
Windhavyn -- I deleted the actual names of your collections. No need for that yet. :)

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« Reply #52 on: May 15, 2017, 07:52:06 AM »
Oops! Thanks, thought I'd put all my data down in one go. XD

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« Reply #53 on: May 20, 2017, 10:59:17 AM »
I am sorry I am a bit slow and still have several questions.

-So I play 3 days each for the first two sims but get to play through the whole young adult and adult period of the last sim, right?
No, you'll play each household 3 days and then move on to the next.
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-Does the 'household income' mean the total money of the household or only the 'income' during that period?
Total.
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-When I separate the household, is there any restriction to the lots they can move in? Only empty ones? So each sim will start with 20k in hands, correct?
Your Sims can move anywhere they can afford. Keep in mind, though, that they won't be able to sell furniture, etc., as that would contribute to household income. And yes, each will start with 20K.
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-Am I allowed to garden? The income is limited to selling collectors, so income from gardening doesn't count but to finish the collection, am I allowed to garden for that?
You're allowed to garden and to sell what you grow. Fruits and vegetables are collectibles, so they count.
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-I assume that each sim cannot help the others by any means, right? No connections between them.
I'm not sure what you mean by "helping." Perhaps you should PM the team with specifics.
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Questions are fine -- and it's always possible that a question you're asking is one that someone else would ask, too.

Thank you so much. Your answers make so much sense I feel real stupid -_-.

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Re: Don't Put All Your Collectibles in One Basket
« Reply #54 on: May 21, 2017, 02:33:46 PM »
Household #1 §55,470 with 4 collections
Household #2 §39,589 with 3 collections
Household #3 §21,310 with 1 collection

Multiplier 1.8

Total for all 3 households:

§116,369 x 1.8 = §209,464


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« Reply #55 on: May 25, 2017, 02:27:57 PM »
Major rule change:

The May 25th patch added 2 days to the Short lifespan for YA and Adult. You'll need to play 6 3-day sessions and 1 2-day session for each of your Sims to get 20 days for each Sim.

If you have already completed this challenge, this doesn't apply to you. If 1 or 2 of your Sims have already become Elders, you'll need to adjust accordingly.
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Re: Don't Put All Your Collectibles in One Basket
« Reply #56 on: May 25, 2017, 03:21:52 PM »
Major rule change:

The May 25th patch added 2 days to the Short lifespan for YA and Adult. You'll need to play 6 3-day sessions and 1 2-day session for each of your Sims to get 20 days for each Sim.

If you have already completed this challenge, this doesn't apply to you. If 1 or 2 of your Sims have already become Elders, you'll need to adjust accordingly.

About this change...

Before the patch, your sim aged up to elder at 8 am on the fourth Sunday (21 sim days after start) assuming you play a single sim from CAS to elder. Translated to this challenge, shouldn't we have 7 three-day turns with each sim?

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« Reply #57 on: May 25, 2017, 06:20:48 PM »
As @lesleyj42 pointed out, the game does give you that extra day, so the rule was changed to:

The May 25th patch added 2 days to the Short lifespan for YA and Adult. You'll need to play 7 3-day sessions for each of your Sims to get 20 days for each Sim.
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« Reply #58 on: May 28, 2017, 06:27:09 PM »
This sounds like a lot of fun. I'll definitely join in :D

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Re: Don't Put All Your Collectibles in One Basket
« Reply #59 on: May 29, 2017, 11:58:41 PM »
The Collector Sisters finished up just in time for the release of the Parenthood game pack! YAY!!

Alinda's funds are $142,643 and she has 8 complete collections
Belinda's funds are $196,582 and she has 9 complete collections
Calinda's funds are $197,956 and she has 9 complete collections

Total Funds: $537,181
Total Collections: 26
Final Score: 537,181 * 3.6 = 1,933,852

Great challenge - I really had fun with this!

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« Reply #60 on: May 30, 2017, 05:38:26 AM »
What a fantastic score, GlazeyLady :) -- you really set the bar for the remainder of the event.

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« Reply #61 on: May 30, 2017, 10:44:15 AM »
What a fantastic score, GlazeyLady :) -- you really set the bar for the remainder of the event.
Thanks Metro! I really enjoyed this challenge. I've kinda been missing the longer challenges, with us now playing on short, so I enjoyed the 60 days of play in this one. I always start feeling like 20 days is not much time, and I'm always amazed at how much can be accomplished in that timeframe.

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Re: Don't Put All Your Collectibles in One Basket
« Reply #62 on: June 06, 2017, 09:24:20 PM »
Are we allowed to place restaurants?

Edited to ask: I am seeing a total of 22 different collections so I am sure people who have more expansions than I do have even more. So I am wondering if all the collections in the collections tab are fair game like the Magic beans or are some off limits?

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« Reply #63 on: June 07, 2017, 05:30:47 AM »
Are we allowed to place restaurants?

No. Check General Rules...you cannot edit non-home lots.

Edited to ask: I am seeing a total of 22 different collections so I am sure people who have more expansions than I do have even more. So I am wondering if all the collections in the collections tab are fair game like the Magic beans or are some off limits?


If it's in the tab, then go for it, but General Rules override everything, like the rule to not edit non home lots. So, be careful and make sure you understand the General Rules.

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« Reply #64 on: June 08, 2017, 05:16:14 PM »
Sim One made 57012 no complete collections.
Sim Two made 51286 no complete collections.
Sim Three made 49418 no complete collections.

Total:  57012+51286+49418 = 157716.
Multiplier 1.00

Grand Total 157716.
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« Reply #65 on: June 09, 2017, 08:46:57 AM »
Are we allowed to place restaurants?

No. Check General Rules...you cannot edit non-home lots.

Edited to ask: I am seeing a total of 22 different collections so I am sure people who have more expansions than I do have even more. So I am wondering if all the collections in the collections tab are fair game like the Magic beans or are some off limits?


If it's in the tab, then go for it, but General Rules override everything, like the rule to not edit non home lots. So, be careful and make sure you understand the General Rules.

My error. The team already allowed another player to place a restaurant, so you have a green light.

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Re: Don't Put All Your Collectibles in One Basket
« Reply #66 on: June 11, 2017, 05:52:29 PM »
Household A =   87,471 with 2 complete collections
Household B = 107,637 with 3 complete collections
Household C = 100,991 with 4 complete collections

Total Funds: 296,099
Total Collections: 9

Total Score: 296,099 * 1.9 = 562,588

So fun! Learned a lot about collectibles.

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« Reply #67 on: June 14, 2017, 06:59:10 AM »
Only 4 days left for everyone to post scores -- you have until Sunday. It's a very tight race at the top of the world ranking. Are we going to have some shakeups after this event? We'll see. :) Good luck to everyone finishing up.

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Re: Don't Put All Your Collectibles in One Basket
« Reply #68 on: June 16, 2017, 10:08:30 PM »
Household A =  $117,016 with 2 complete collections
Household B = $103,104 with 3 complete collections
Household C = $68,657 with 4 complete collections

Total Funds: $288,777
Total Collections: 9

Total Score: $288,777 * 1.9 = $548,676

Thanks for the nice challenge concept. I had a lot of fun.


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« Reply #69 on: June 17, 2017, 07:14:12 AM »
Going to be tied up all weekend, so I needed to crank this sucker out over the last couple of days...

Household A - $91,238 with 1 complete collection
Household B - $106,427 with 2 complete collections
Household C - $55,892 with 2 complete collections

Total - $253,557. Multiplier = 1.5 = 380,335

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« Reply #70 on: June 17, 2017, 10:07:13 AM »
Well, that was fun..

Household A - $157,467 with 6 complete collection
Household B - $202,974 with 8 complete collections
Household C - $237,583 with 7 complete collections

Total - $598,024. Multiplier = 3.1 = 1,853,874.4

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« Reply #71 on: June 18, 2017, 02:18:43 PM »
Some awesome scores for this, but mine's not one of them:

Ima Hoarder -- 110,142, with 3 complete collections
Ura Hoarder -- 37,453, with 3 complete collections
Shisa Hoarder -- 52,313, with 3 complete collections

Total -- 199,908 x 1.9 = 299,825.2
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Re: Don't Put All Your Collectibles in One Basket
« Reply #72 on: June 18, 2017, 02:42:40 PM »
I have a problem, even though some collections like gardening or elements show that I have all 32/32 for gardening or 15/15 for elements they don't count as completed collecctions on the corner right. Why might this be?

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« Reply #73 on: June 18, 2017, 03:10:08 PM »
I have a problem, even though some collections like gardening or elements show that I have all 32/32 for gardening or 15/15 for elements they don't count as completed collecctions on the corner right. Why might this be?

Are you talking about the upper right hand corner? I've had that, too. If your Sim has gotten the notification that the collection is complete, that's good enough.
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« Reply #74 on: June 18, 2017, 03:28:34 PM »
Love your Sims' names, Marian. Lol.

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« Reply #75 on: June 18, 2017, 03:53:11 PM »
Household 1 201,455$ and 8 collections
Household 2 170,789$ and 8 collections
Household 3 162,897$ and 9 collections

Total Funds: 535,141$

Final Score: 535,141 * 3.5 = 1,872,993

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« Reply #76 on: June 18, 2017, 04:02:21 PM »
I have a problem, even though some collections like gardening or elements show that I have all 32/32 for gardening or 15/15 for elements they don't count as completed collecctions on the corner right. Why might this be?

Are you talking about the upper right hand corner? I've had that, too. If your Sim has gotten the notification that the collection is complete, that's good enough.

Yeah that one. They appear in yellow like the others but not in the upper right corner...

Anyway without those that don't appear in the corner I have :

Household #1 §52,141 with 1 collection
Household #2 §41,144 with 2 collections
Household #3 §55,661 with 2 collections

Multiplier 1.5

Total Funds: §148,946

Final Score: 148,946 * 1.5 = 223,419

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« Reply #77 on: June 18, 2017, 07:30:30 PM »
Household 1: §222,684 with 6 full collections
Household 2: §240,055 with 5 full collections
Household 3: §321,356 with 5 full collections

Multiplier: (16*0.10)+1= 2.6

Total for all 3 households:
§784,095*2.6= §2,038,647

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« Reply #78 on: June 18, 2017, 07:50:26 PM »
Best tournament challenge ever! Big shoutout to the team.  I love that we're playing on short lifespans and I love the relaxation of the rules that's given me a chance to explore some game content I haven't done much with. 

Bottom line:

Household A:  103570 + 4 completed collections =
103570 x 1.4 giving 182798

Household B:  94799 + 4 completed collections =
94799 X 1.4 giving 183718

Household C:  83415 + 6 completed collections =
133464

Total score:  676281

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« Reply #79 on: June 19, 2017, 12:55:55 AM »
I have a partial score I didn't even get halfway thru but my score is
25,994 with 0 collections
30,617 with 0 collections
16,715 with 0 collections

73,326

This challenge was a lot of fun! I may do it again or finish just for fun!

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« Reply #80 on: June 19, 2017, 06:01:32 AM »
This challenge is officially closed. I was looking through the results of all of this year's events and I did not see @lesleyj42 at the top of the pack in any of them, so I believe this event is her first win -- well done, lesleyj42! :)

Everyone is now free to share their strategy in how they tackled this event. Great job to all participants.

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« Reply #81 on: June 19, 2017, 10:49:18 AM »
Thanks, Metro, this is my first win. I had a lot of fun with this one. Here's how I did it. Please forgive my long-windedness...

Completed Collections:
Fish (3)
Frogs (3)
Gardening (3)
Geodes (3)
Space prints (3)
Fossils (1)

All three of the sims were:
Geek
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Loves outdoors

Upon initial setup, I put sims 2 and 3 on the two 15x20 lots in Newcrest. Sim 1 moved to the 30x40 lot in the same neighborhood (I planned to grow a large garden on his lot and needed the room). The two 15x20 lots (private dwelling only) were used as storage for things I couldn't sell (buy mode items caught while fishing, things crafted with the workbench, etc). The 30x40 lot (private dwelling, science lair, great soil) had a shower room, a spaceship, a telescope, workbenches, and a large garden.

I setup a club for my three sims with club activities of friendly socials and fishing. Rally troops was my first club perk followed by skill boosts for handiness and rocket science and focusing boosts.

In the first few rotations, the club would go to various places to fish, collect frogs, harvest plants, and dig for metals, fossils, crystals and MySims. Then go back to the 30x40 lot to plant at least one of each type of plant. I also got produce from starter seeds, attending the first Spice and Romance festivals, one space mission, grafting, and letting a pile of trash take root.

I wanted to get to Sixam for two things, the geode collection (usually takes only two trips) and the alien plants (quill and glow orb). Therefore, I had sim 2 max rocket science skill in order to upgrade the spaceship to travel there.

I know that the quill and glow orb plants are not required to complete the gardening collection, however, I used them as cash crops. Those two plants start at §20 when they are normal quality; at perfect quality, they are worth just over §100 a piece. Another deciding factor was how fast they grow (time between full harvests for those is about 2 sim days). I also grew dragon fruit (§16-80/each) as a cash crop, but their harvest cycle was a bit longer (about 3 sim days). In total, the garden had over 90 plants. To care for it, I used the "tend garden together" option regularly. I never had gardening as a club activity because the produce would be harvested early (less profitable) and those harvested by the two sims I wasn't controlling would very likely be lost (not profitable at all).

As for completing the fish collection I spent lots of time out at various locations to catch everything. Sim 3 maxed handiness to break open the path to the Forgotten Grotto. The most variety was caught in and around the Oasis Springs Park.

I got the vast majority of frogs from the 3 ponds (Willow Creek Park, Oasis Springs Park, and Sylvan Glade). The rest I bred strategically to collect. Once I had finished the collection, I continued to breed the most expensive frogs. This would add approx §2,000 per sim per rotation to household income.

As I made my way around the different neighborhoods, I dug all the rocks. Sim 1 managed to complete the fossil collection in time. I got close on some of the others but it wasn't in the cards.

The last several rotations were spent entirely on sim 1's lot so the garden could grow. To pass the time in between gardening duties, I collected space prints with the telescope. I found that you got more variety if every time you collected one, you cancel the interaction, go do something else, and then come back.

Thanks to the team for another fun challenge!

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« Reply #82 on: June 19, 2017, 11:09:59 AM »
Fantastic, detailed info, lesleyj42. Thank you very much. You cannot be too long-winded after an event is over. :)

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« Reply #83 on: June 19, 2017, 01:53:28 PM »
Congratulations on your first win @lesleyj42!

My strategy was similar to lesleyj42's except that I focused a little more on completing collections.  Based on the results of previous challenges like this, I figured focusing on money rather than maxing the number of collections might result in a higher score, but I just couldn't keep myself from trying to get 9 collections each.

General considerations:
  • I had a main lot where almost everything happened.  The garden was there for all three sims to collect from, the telescope, microscope, rocket ship, shower and bathtub were all on that lot, along with the main computer.  This was the only lot I paid bills on.  I purchased computers on the other lots just in time to request all the postcards at once, because in my practice games, if a sim requested postcards from somewhere other than their own lot, they didn’t come.
  • I started the Collector’s Club immediately, got the Rally the Troops perk first, and the sisters never had to sleep, use the toilet, or eat.  The only time they did eat was when they were somewhere that didn’t allow a club meeting (Sylvan Glade, Forgotten Grotto, or Sixam), and then they ate produce. I added skills boosts for fishing, gardening, rocketship, handiness, and logic, and the focus vibes, as points became available.
  • The key moneymakers were Gardening, Frog Breeding, and Microscope Prints (using fossil and crystal samples) so I focused on those collections early - especially gardening to get plants up to Perfect quality as soon as possible.
Collections:
I identified the collections I wanted to target based on several factors including how easy it is to get the items, how much certainty/chance is involved in completing the collection, whether the work to acquire could be done on a single lot (I wanted to keep everything on one lot as much as possible), how much $ value could be obtained, and whether there was any potential benefit or help for/from the non-played sims. 
  • Postcards - Easy, quick, certain - Just requires repeated computer interactions, none of which take much time. You always get a penpal from a town you don’t already have, and you always get a postcard when you request one.  The only variable was that occasionally writing a letter doesn’t result in the opportunity to request a postcard, so you have to write a letter again.  Sims can use any computer to find a penpal and write a letter, but in my practices, they never got the postcards in the mail unless they requested them from a computer on their home lot and stayed there until the mail came. So I had the sim I was playing do the “Find penpal” and “Write letter” interactions until all towns were available for “Request postcard” and then requested all the postcards, one after another, on their home lot, and stayed on the lot (or fished nearby) until the mail came with all the postcards being delivered at once.
  • Frogs - Pretty easy, devoting a day to catching frogs at a pond got most of them, and breeding got more.  I did this mostly at the pond in Sylvan Glade, which gave time for the plants there, especially the cherry tree, to grow.  Breeding is great because it takes no time - it can even be completed while the game is on pause.  I worked on completing this early in the game to give maximum money-making breeding; Once a sim completed the collection, and used a cheap frog to catch a wolf eel, I sold all the frogs except 2 Whirlyflowers, worth $160 each.  And I bred those repeatedly throughout the rest of the game.  Every breeding resulted in another $160 Whirlyflower, so I made a lot of money this way.
  • Gardening - Not difficult but takes a lot of time; the only element of chance was getting the UFO plant, but with enough space explorations, it’s pretty sure to get it eventually.  I only needed one, I just wanted it really early so I could plant it and then take cuttings to graft to high-quality fast-growing plants.  I used the “Water Together” interaction extensively, and added other sims to the club to help with this.  “Water Together” also causes sims not currently being played to spray for bugs and weed, so most of the gardening work was done by sims I wasn’t playing at the time.  That was important because I had a big garden, and it took a lot of time for the sim I was playing to harvest, evolve, and fertilize.  I planted a lot of basil, sage and parsley plants because they grow fast, and I grafted slower-growing and high-value plants to them.  I evolved and fertilized these as often as possible so as to get perfect Quill Fruits, Glow Orbs, UFO fruits, and DragonFruits as early as possible. This was a big source of income.
  • Fish - fairly easy, sometimes frustrating - one sim spent hours and hours trying to catch a Tilapia in the same place with the same bait used by another sim to catch about a dozen of them.  I made fishing a club activity and used “Fish Together” to get the non-played sims fishing.  Then I had the sim I was playing work on something else while the sims I was not playing continued to fish.  This resulted in them all having level 10 fishing skill when I started working on fishing with them, and that made completing the collection faster.  I used some of the rare fish for fertilizer, but always sold the sturgeons and anglerfish.  I bought the Handiness books and added Reading to the club activities - the handiness books were the only books on the lot, so the sims I wasn’t playing grew handiness that way.  Alinda’s was highest when I was ready to complete handiness, so I had her master it through upgrading the shower and tub to self-cleaning and then upgrading the microscope and telescope.  She then opened the mine so all three could access the Forgotten Grotto to catch the batfish.
  • Experimental Foods- easy, took about a day, results were certain.  I took all three to the restaurant, ordered different things for each.  I watched for food to be ready to be delivered.  Based on the timing I could usually tell when the order placed for pick-up was for my sim’s table, and at that point I used “Go Here Together” to get my sims away from the table.  When the food arrived, the sims weren’t there to “claim” it, and I was able to move it around.  I put the plates for the two sims I wasn’t playing in the kitchen on the counter, and then brought the sim I was playing back to take a picture of her food.  Once she did that, I moved it off the table (usually threw it away) and moved another plate in front of her and had her photograph it; repeat for the third plate.  I did have to watch the sims I wasn’t playing - occasionally they realized their food was gone and somehow knew where it was, so I’d have to move it again before they went to get it.  I also found that if I paused immediately after food was delivered to other tables I could sometimes grab the plate, put it in front of my sim, have her photograph it, and then put it back.  The sim I stole it from didn’t notice as long as I put it back. But if I didn’t put it back, they seemed to stay a long time waiting for their food, which meant the table didn’t turn and I didn’t get a chance to steal the next customer’s plate.  Stealing the plate isn’t always possible, and it has to be timed right.  If I couldn’t steal the plate, sometimes I could engage my sim in conversation with the other sim, and sometimes that releases the plate. Also, sometimes a sim will pick up a plate and walk around with it, and then set it down on a counter or the floor, and that might release it as well.
  • Microscope Prints - easy, somewhat time-consuming especially for the “Use” prints, but the fossil and crystal prints were good money-makers.  Once Belinda and Calinda had 9 complete collections, they spent their time analyzing fossils and crystals and selling the resulting prints.
  • Space Prints - easy, time-consuming, but the prints were decent money-makers.
  • Geodes - easy, not too time-consuming once the rocket was built (I had non-played sims help with the building).  It took 3-4 visits each to Sixam to complete the collection.
  • Space Rocks & Aliens -  The space rocks collection is attractive for its size, but there is a lot of chance to it.  The Alien collection also has a lot of chance, but the likelihood of getting them is increased because they can be acquired on Sixam as well as through space adventures.  So I looked at Space Rocks and Aliens as either/or - go for both and hope for one.  Alinda needed one more Space Rock or one more Alien to finish her ninth collection, but just couldn’t get it.  Belinda actually completed both of these and skipped Experimental Food.  Calinda got all the Space Rocks and only needed one more alien.

I think that covers everything I did.  I didn’t work on the other collections at all, except to gather a few fossils and crystals for the microscope prints.  I had about 10 of each - analyzing 20 samples took long enough to get past the cool-down, so as soon as the analysis was done the sim could collect more samples.


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Re: Don't Put All Your Collectibles in One Basket
« Reply #84 on: June 19, 2017, 02:47:36 PM »
Congratulations on winning this challenge lesleyj42!  Great, detailed strategy!

GlazeyLady --- Great job and great strategy, as well!
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