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Offline Isabelalabe

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Re: Having the Skills to Pay the Bills
« Reply #25 on: June 18, 2017, 08:34:41 AM »
To my understanding, both sims can gain any skills anytime they want but can only make money from the two designated skills (per sim). While training for the skills (not the money making ones), all items/produces can be created but not sold. Only items created with the money making skill in that specific billing cycle can be sold, right?  Regarding "If your Sims max their designated unique skills for earning money, your score multiplier goes up", do the said skills have to be maxed out DURING that specific billing cycle? Also, during moving, can the furniture be sold? 

Sorry, as I have mentioned before, I am a little slow.

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Re: Having the Skills to Pay the Bills
« Reply #26 on: June 18, 2017, 08:40:03 AM »
To my understanding, both sims can gain any skills anytime they want but can only make money from the two designated skills (per sim). While training for the skills (not the money making ones), all items/produces can be created but not sold. Only items created with the money making skill in that specific billing cycle can be sold, right?  Regarding "If your Sims max their designated unique skills for earning money, your score multiplier goes up", do the said skills have to be maxed out DURING that specific billing cycle? Also, during moving, can the furniture be sold? 

Sorry, as I have mentioned before, I am a little slow.

No apology necessary - this event is a bit more complicated than is typical, so it's good to get things ironed out now instead of a month from now. :)

The answer to every question with the exception of selling furniture is yes. You cannot sell furniture since that would be income gained from a non-skill source.



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Re: Having the Skills to Pay the Bills
« Reply #27 on: June 18, 2017, 08:42:39 AM »
That was amazingly fast. Thank you  :D

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Re: Having the Skills to Pay the Bills
« Reply #28 on: June 18, 2017, 01:17:44 PM »
What about furniture that is made at a woodworking table --- if that is one of the money making skills for one of the 2 Sims in the household?  May we sell ---  that and only that --- type of furniture?
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Re: Having the Skills to Pay the Bills
« Reply #29 on: June 18, 2017, 02:19:57 PM »
What about furniture that is made at a woodworking table --- if that is one of the money making skills for one of the 2 Sims in the household?  May we sell ---  that and only that --- type of furniture?

Yes -- furniture that your Sim makes can be sold.
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Re: Having the Skills to Pay the Bills
« Reply #30 on: June 19, 2017, 07:47:18 AM »
Haven't played challenges in awhile so a little confused on what is the goal? The score is reflective of the size of your bills? Is it, can you pay or how much you pay?

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Re: Having the Skills to Pay the Bills
« Reply #31 on: June 19, 2017, 08:15:03 AM »
Haven't played challenges in awhile so a little confused on what is the goal? The score is reflective of the size of your bills? Is it, can you pay or how much you pay?

Hi Ironic -- nice to see you again. :) Yeah, this event's rules are a bit more involved than is typical. Read through them carefully before you begin. Score is indeed based on the size of your bills, so you want big bills hehe. And if for some reason you would be unable to pay any bill (income for each billing cycle is limited to 2 different skills per Sim), then you'd need to stop and post your score.



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Re: Having the Skills to Pay the Bills
« Reply #32 on: June 19, 2017, 01:02:00 PM »
Hiie Metropolis Man, thanks, you too! :-D Thanks for the quick response. It is quite a bit different, but I like it!

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Re: Having the Skills to Pay the Bills
« Reply #33 on: June 20, 2017, 02:28:06 AM »
On the 5th Monday, after their 4th and last bill, sisters, Skill Bills and Jill Bills had the following:

Bill #1 §307
Bill #2 §296
Bill #3 §270
Bill #4 §1,428

So,

My four bills added up to §2,301
My two Sims maxed 6 of "their designated unique money making skills."
Therefore, my multiplier was 1.60.
So, my final score is §2,301 X 1.60 = §3,681 total

That was a very fun and unique challenge.  Thanks to the team, and to Rachel, for coming up with this challenge idea ;D

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Re: Having the Skills to Pay the Bills
« Reply #34 on: June 20, 2017, 06:26:21 AM »
Great job finishing first, coolsim -- given the event is now live I took the liberty of deleting one line of your post (your explanation of why your last bill was higher). ;) Hope you understand.

EDIT: Oh, one more thing...you were a decimal place off with your total...$2,301 X 1.60 = 3,681.

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Re: Having the Skills to Pay the Bills
« Reply #35 on: June 20, 2017, 04:53:02 PM »
An exploit was just brought to the team's attention (thank you, reggikko), so this rule needed to be added:

  • Both Sims must be on the home lot when bills arrive in the mail (Mondays at 5 a.m.).

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Re: Having the Skills to Pay the Bills
« Reply #36 on: June 20, 2017, 05:24:24 PM »
Hi Metro,

Edit: Thanks for mentioning that I was the first to finish.

I didn't mean to put any information in my post that shouldn't be there.  I'll just put the Sims' names and the math that got me to my total for the next challenge.  I totally understand why you deleted that part!

Oops...sometimes, decimals aren't my thing ???.  I tried to do the math correctly --- although, it would have been wicked cool if that had been my score...lol.

My Sims were both home when the last bill came in.

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Re: Having the Skills to Pay the Bills
« Reply #37 on: June 20, 2017, 07:57:20 PM »
An exploit was just brought to the team's attention (thank you, reggikko), so this rule needed to be added:

  • Both Sims must be on the home lot when bills arrive in the mail (Mondays at 5 a.m.).
Err... what happens if both sims aren't on the home lot when bills arrive...? ??? *scurries off to start up TS4*

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Re: Having the Skills to Pay the Bills
« Reply #38 on: June 25, 2017, 11:40:17 AM »
I know it's rather late in the challenge, but I made up a spreadsheet to track my progress and figured you guys may want to utilize it for your own runs. Formatting is a bit wonky (it's not my forté) but it is calculating correctly from my tests. Link is here: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1l0YqEUm9Mt4jJuF8kgZHuBuSlon730q6FsN_-E6Nvc4/edit?usp=sharing

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Re: Having the Skills to Pay the Bills
« Reply #39 on: June 25, 2017, 01:30:29 PM »
@SeraNita - thank you very much for the spreadsheet. I will add it to the rules.

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Re: Having the Skills to Pay the Bills
« Reply #40 on: June 26, 2017, 12:54:25 PM »
IMPORTANT:

One thing I want to clarify given the team has had some questions on this...you CAN level up a money making skill ahead of time. In other words, say you want to sell paintings in the 3rd billing cycle. You can if you wish start painting in the 1st billing cycle (or 2nd). You would just not be able to sell any paintings until the 3rd billing cycle when painting was your designated money making skill.

I was reluctant to share this information because it is in the strategy ballpark, but it's important enough that it needed to be said -- some players may not have known that this was allowed.

So -- with this info if you have already gotten into the challenge and would have approached your scoring file differently, then feel free to restart.

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Re: Having the Skills to Pay the Bills
« Reply #41 on: June 27, 2017, 09:31:09 PM »
I removed the spreadsheet since someone reported the multiplier is doubling things. SeraNita hopefully you can fix it and give me a link again. Thanks.

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Re: Having the Skills to Pay the Bills
« Reply #42 on: June 28, 2017, 09:56:22 AM »
@Metropolis Man Could you please provide an example so I know where to look? I'm not having any issues at current.

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Re: Having the Skills to Pay the Bills
« Reply #43 on: June 28, 2017, 11:27:22 AM »
@Metropolis Man Could you please provide an example so I know where to look? I'm not having any issues at current.

Seranita in my test run the multiplier was 2.4 instead of 1.4. I can send you a pm will a pic in a few minutes when I get back to my computer

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Re: Having the Skills to Pay the Bills
« Reply #44 on: June 28, 2017, 11:35:20 AM »
@Metropolis Man Could you please provide an example so I know where to look? I'm not having any issues at current.

Seranita in my test run the multiplier was 2.4 instead of 1.4. I can send you a pm will a pic in a few minutes when I get back to my computer

Don't forget everyone starts with 1.00. Maybe that's the issue?

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Re: Having the Skills to Pay the Bills
« Reply #45 on: June 28, 2017, 11:38:07 AM »
@Metropolis Man Could you please provide an example so I know where to look? I'm not having any issues at current.

Seranita in my test run the multiplier was 2.4 instead of 1.4. I can send you a pm will a pic in a few minutes when I get back to my computer

Don't forget everyone starts with 1.00. Maybe that's the issue?

Let me double check that then metro. Like I said, I just got back from vacation so my mind is still in Florida some where.

EDIT: @Metropolis Man @SeraNita  My apologies. I need another vacation to recover. I forgot about the 1.00 multiplier to start out with. So glad I haven't started my official run yet.  :o Gonna go back to bed now. But first I'm gonna go stand in a corner. 


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Re: Having the Skills to Pay the Bills
« Reply #46 on: June 28, 2017, 12:00:31 PM »
@Metropolis Man Could you please provide an example so I know where to look? I'm not having any issues at current.

Seranita in my test run the multiplier was 2.4 instead of 1.4. I can send you a pm will a pic in a few minutes when I get back to my computer

Don't forget everyone starts with 1.00. Maybe that's the issue?

Let me double check that then metro. Like I said, I just got back from vacation so my mind is still in Florida some where.

EDIT: @Metropolis Man @SeraNita  My apologies. I need another vacation to recover. I forgot about the 1.00 multiplier to start out with. So glad I haven't started my official run yet.  :o Gonna go back to bed now. But first I'm gonna go stand in a corner. 



No worries. Better safe than sorry.

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Re: Having the Skills to Pay the Bills
« Reply #47 on: June 28, 2017, 12:18:41 PM »
Spreadsheet is here. I made a couple of optimizations while I was in there as well. As for the base multiplier of 1, it's so the decimals multiply correctly otherwise it'd be much like dividing your score, and none of us want that. :)

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Re: Having the Skills to Pay the Bills
« Reply #48 on: June 28, 2017, 01:04:57 PM »
Spreadsheet is here. I made a couple of optimizations while I was in there as well. As for the base multiplier of 1, it's so the decimals multiply correctly otherwise it'd be much like dividing your score, and none of us want that. :)

Thank you SeraNita, That works good. My brain likes. :) Like I said, I'm gonna go off and get some more sleep now.

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Re: Having the Skills to Pay the Bills
« Reply #49 on: June 29, 2017, 12:03:55 PM »
First time doing a challenge this year:

My brother and sister team got the following

Bill #1-520
Bill #2 - 656
Bill #3 - 999
Bill #4 - 1,335

My four bills added up to 3,510
My two Sims maxed 13 their money making skills.
Therefore, my multiplier was 2.30.
So, my final score is 3,510 X 2.30 = 8,073 total
I hope my math is correct!

That was so much fun! I can't wait to see what the winning strategy will be.

 

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