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Re: House Hunters Challenge: The Baker's Dozen
« Reply #50 on: February 16, 2018, 05:57:36 PM »
By apartments, I assume the team means those apartments that can be purchased and not the ones that the Sims rent. Is that correct?

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Re: House Hunters Challenge: The Baker's Dozen
« Reply #51 on: February 16, 2018, 06:40:15 PM »
By apartments, I assume the team means those apartments that can be purchased and not the ones that the Sims rent. Is that correct?

Well, I did a little test the other day and I know the Alto apartment had a lot value to score at the end. I can't remember what the procedure was at the beginning -- buy vs rent. Does anyone know if the rent apartments also have lot value?



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Re: House Hunters Challenge: The Baker's Dozen
« Reply #52 on: February 16, 2018, 06:59:59 PM »
A pretty big potential exploit was brought to the team's attention, so the following ban was just added:

  • The Vampire Lore skill is banned.

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Re: House Hunters Challenge: The Baker's Dozen
« Reply #53 on: February 16, 2018, 07:17:07 PM »
@Metropolitan
Regarding your question about apartments:
In San Myshuno, I believe there are just a few lots that can be purchased/sold outright.
The majority require a deposit + weekly rent. They are rentals; they can't be flipped.
That's my understanding, anyway.

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Re: House Hunters Challenge: The Baker's Dozen
« Reply #54 on: February 16, 2018, 09:11:17 PM »
Some of the apartments are penthouses which I think work just like houses (though I've never used the penthouses that I remember so am not 100% sure). Like oshizu says, the other apartments have a deposit and weekly rent as well as a price for furnishings should you choose to move into it furnished, but that price doesn't take into account walls, windows or anything else that can't be edited, only furnishings.

EDIT: Just loaded up my game to see how it worked with my sim who I recently moved into an unfurnished apartment, and despite being totally empty it still has a lot value so maybe I was wrong and it does take into account walls and windows and stuff?

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Re: House Hunters Challenge: The Baker's Dozen
« Reply #55 on: February 16, 2018, 09:54:23 PM »
It looks like for rented apartments, you would possibly add up the rent, deposit, and furnishings before moving in and that would give you the lot value. That seems to be the only way to determine if the value is greater than the previous lot.

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Re: House Hunters Challenge: The Baker's Dozen
« Reply #56 on: February 17, 2018, 04:28:48 AM »
I've done some more testing on apartments this morning.

I moved a sim into empty apartment 17 Culpepper House, Spice District with weekly rent $400, deposit $800 and furnishings $8,095 Lot Value was less than furnishings ($8,008). Left with $11,105 so you only pay deposit and furnishings to move in.

Then i motherloded to see a middle-valued apartment (starting funds $61,105) and moved to 920 Medina, Art District with weekly rent $1K, deposit $800 and furnishings $29,380. Firstly if i keep furniture then the money was $31,725 so the only thing charged was $29,380 (in effect you get your deposit back and then it goes into this new rental, much like real life). Lot value again was less than furnishings ($26,927).

I motherloded twice more ($131,725), keeping furniture, moved to 1010 Alto Apartments, Uptown with weekly rent $3500, deposit $15,500 and furnishings $100,215.
Again i got charged for deposit -$800 paid from last place and furniture only. Again Lot Value was less than furniture ($90, 360).

Therefore i think only "furniture" value should be considered in Apartments.

As an aside, i notice lot value goes down for apartments regardless of keeping/selling furniture which would make verifying "score" difficult, whereas if you "sell furniture" at move screen on a house, the house you have moved out of has a value the same as the Lot Value score so is easier to verify.

Maybe go back to no Apartments? Sorry folks, i think Apartments was added after i queried it yesterday. It seemed okay at the time but depends what the team thinks about the new information surrounding verification which i wasn't aware of until deep diving today.



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Re: House Hunters Challenge: The Baker's Dozen
« Reply #57 on: February 17, 2018, 05:43:39 AM »
I'd be fine with no apartments. Might make things simpler. Team -- voice your opinions. I am out of here for a couple days...going to visit my mom. Cheers, everyone.

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Re: House Hunters Challenge: The Baker's Dozen
« Reply #58 on: February 17, 2018, 09:42:01 AM »
No apartments sounds good to me, too.
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Re: House Hunters Challenge: The Baker's Dozen
« Reply #59 on: February 17, 2018, 10:36:12 AM »
No apartments for me

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Re: House Hunters Challenge: The Baker's Dozen
« Reply #60 on: February 17, 2018, 11:25:52 AM »
A quick question: When you say "apartments," you are referring to rented lots, right?

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Re: House Hunters Challenge: The Baker's Dozen
« Reply #61 on: February 17, 2018, 12:16:43 PM »
A quick question: When you say "apartments," you are referring to rented lots, right?

I think we're also referring to the apartments you can buy. Basically, the only thing eligible in San Myshuno would be the Salt House.
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Re: House Hunters Challenge: The Baker's Dozen
« Reply #62 on: February 17, 2018, 12:53:50 PM »
I think we're also referring to the apartments you can buy. Basically, the only thing eligible in San Myshuno would be the Salt House.

That's probably the best way to handle it to avoid any confusion.

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Re: House Hunters Challenge: The Baker's Dozen
« Reply #63 on: February 17, 2018, 03:57:03 PM »
Thank you, MarianT!

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Re: House Hunters Challenge: The Baker's Dozen
« Reply #64 on: February 17, 2018, 07:20:58 PM »
All references to apartments are being scrapped from the rules. House purchases only. I suppose it makes sense given the challenge title. :)

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Re: House Hunters Challenge: The Baker's Dozen
« Reply #65 on: February 19, 2018, 11:17:13 AM »
When you're moving houses, since once you asses lot value nothing can change, do you move with the furniture? As I understand it, regardless if you move with furniture or sell it the lot stays the same, correct? So, would it matter if you sold the furniture after you assessed the lot value when moving as long as you're not emptying the house before selling?

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Re: House Hunters Challenge: The Baker's Dozen
« Reply #66 on: February 19, 2018, 11:55:38 AM »
When you're moving houses, since once you asses lot value nothing can change, do you move with the furniture? As I understand it, regardless if you move with furniture or sell it the lot stays the same, correct? So, would it matter if you sold the furniture after you assessed the lot value when moving as long as you're not emptying the house before selling?

This was a helpful related PM I received from cyclonenic the other day. I'll just paste it here...

Just thought that you might want to know that players will have to sell their furniture at the move screen to keep the lot value they get before moving- in effect they sell their furniture to the new owners. This may need some clarity.

As an example Crick Cabana Lot Value is 12442 immediately upon moving in. This stays at 12442 if you sell the furniture but goes down to 7822 if you keep the furniture (i.e the furniture moves with you).

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Re: House Hunters Challenge: The Baker's Dozen
« Reply #67 on: February 19, 2018, 11:51:55 PM »
Ah, gotcha. Yeah, it's been awhile since I had a sim move in game, but I remembered something like that. Thanks for the clarification Metro. And, cyclonenic   :D

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Re: House Hunters Challenge: The Baker's Dozen
« Reply #68 on: February 22, 2018, 12:24:28 PM »
I'm wearing my confused face at the minute, though I think I understood the rule set and then read the comments which didn't help! Think I may need a couple more read read-through's and practice runs. And I thought the toddler's would be difficult!

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Re: House Hunters Challenge: The Baker's Dozen
« Reply #69 on: February 22, 2018, 12:29:57 PM »
@december22 -- what is confusing you?

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Re: House Hunters Challenge: The Baker's Dozen
« Reply #70 on: February 22, 2018, 12:37:12 PM »
@Metropolis Man

I think it's because I'd read rules 3.0 but the comments related to rules 2.0 and 1.0 so it didn't make any sense.

I'll read through the rules as they are now a couple more times then if I'm still not getting it I'll let you know.

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Re: House Hunters Challenge: The Baker's Dozen
« Reply #71 on: February 23, 2018, 11:33:16 AM »
I just want to make sure I got everything right. Do I understand correctly that:
- After we start the game, we can go to Manage Worlds and evict all the families we want from their houses, then get back to playing our file?
- We can buy and sell whatever we want in each house, as long as we don't make any changes after checking the lot value right before moving out?
- We can transfer items in the family inventory from house to house?
- When we move, we always choose "Sell furniture" on the left, and "Furnished" on the right?
- We still can choose a house with "Vampire Lore" if we change it right after moving in?
Thanks in advance!

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Re: House Hunters Challenge: The Baker's Dozen
« Reply #72 on: February 23, 2018, 01:14:40 PM »
I just want to make sure I got everything right. Do I understand correctly that:
- After we start the game, we can go to Manage Worlds and evict all the families we want from their houses, then get back to playing our file?

No need to use Manage Worlds at the outset. If an occupied home is your choice at a worlds screen when it's time to make a selection, then just evict the family then.

- We can buy and sell whatever we want in each house, as long as we don't make any changes after checking the lot value right before moving out?

Correct.

- We can transfer items in the family inventory from house to house?

Yes.

- When we move, we always choose "Sell furniture" on the left, and "Furnished" on the right?

Yes.

- We still can choose a house with "Vampire Lore" if we change it right after moving in?

Vampire Lore is banned, so I am on the fence about this. What if you or someone else forget to change it? Let's let other team members weigh in.

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Re: House Hunters Challenge: The Baker's Dozen
« Reply #73 on: February 23, 2018, 02:21:05 PM »
There isn't a Vampire Lore lot trait. The traits (none of which affect skilling) are:

On A Dark Ley Line – The dark energy here has a impact on all nocturnal activities. You can expect babies conceived here to require extra care while teething.
Vampire Nexus – A dark void envelopes this lot in the upside down. Vampires are more likely to visit the area.
Registered Vampire Lair – The lot registers as a vampire lair. The League will send various gifts from time to time. Through the mail, no less. Even the immortals use the public mail service. Only available on home residences.

It's the Vampire Lore skill that's banned, isn't it?

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Re: House Hunters Challenge: The Baker's Dozen
« Reply #74 on: February 23, 2018, 02:32:11 PM »
There isn't a Vampire Lore lot trait. The traits (none of which affect skilling) are:

On A Dark Ley Line – The dark energy here has a impact on all nocturnal activities. You can expect babies conceived here to require extra care while teething.
Vampire Nexus – A dark void envelopes this lot in the upside down. Vampires are more likely to visit the area.
Registered Vampire Lair – The lot registers as a vampire lair. The League will send various gifts from time to time. Through the mail, no less. Even the immortals use the public mail service. Only available on home residences.

It's the Vampire Lore skill that's banned, isn't it?

Ok, ty, reggikko. Yeah, I confess, I am not very knowledgeable about lot traits. It's the skill that is banned due to a potential exploit someone brought to our attention.

 

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