(False) Reputation!

[Similar]

My female Sim was notified that her boyfriend was cheating on her, and his statistics now show a betrayal on his record.  But he wasn't!  He's under my control and I've had him sitting outside the bookstore reading a handiness manual all afternoon.  So the reputation record is just as phony as celebrity rumors?  Is there a way to reverse the false rep?  If not, I guess it's just one more thing to ignore, but how annoying.

[Esther1981]

The only thing I can think of is to use the "clean slate" lifetime reward, but it will probably get rid of all the relationship info. I haven't tried it yet.

[Pam]

I was surprised to find that Jared Frio was a Romantic Interest for my Sim.  I figured they snuck in some fllirting while I wasn't looking or something.  Then she got interested in Gunther Goth and asked him to break up with Cornelia.  That got her the naughty reputation.  When she had the option to confess cheating to Jared, I let her do it.  That got her the reputation of being a cheater!  She wasn't going steady with either of them and I don't think she did any more than flirt with Jared.  I actually think it's kind of funny because she's really mostly a spinster who never goes out and runs a Day Care (it's Indigo Dreamweaver, by the way).  Now here she is with such a bad reputation!  The game probably plays it very sensitively and it doesn't take much to be considered a cheater.

[RubyLovesSims]

I was surprised to find that Jared Frio was a Romantic Interest for my Sim.  I figured they snuck in some fllirting while I wasn't looking or something.  Then she got interested in Gunther Goth and asked him to break up with Cornelia.  That got her the naughty reputation.  When she had the option to confess cheating to Jared, I let her do it.  That got her the reputation of being a cheater!  She wasn't going steady with either of them and I don't think she did any more than flirt with Jared.  I actually think it's kind of funny because she's really mostly a spinster who never goes out and runs a Day Care (it's Indigo Dreamweaver, by the way).  Now here she is with such a bad reputation!  The game probably plays it very sensitively and it doesn't take much to be considered a cheater.

That sounds like something that happening in my game. Also, it counts a relationship if one of the members is dead!
 

[Carl]

I wonder how challenging the Heartbreaker lifetime wish is going to be thanks to this feature. It was pretty easy but time consuming before. It might get a bit harder as you keep breaking hearts, but maybe if you never actually cheat it won't penalize you. I'm curious of all the stages here and how they'll affect relationships. It sounds like it would be a lot to test.

[KimC]

I have a Sim I'm doing heartbreaker with right now, she had 3/10 before Generations. I went thru and made her best friends with the rest of her 'victims'. Now I just claimed number 4 before I left for work today. I'll let you know how it goes, right now she has no reputation.

I agree with Pam (I think that was who said it) though, it is a very sensitive system. Just one romantic interaction turns an outing into a date.

[MoMoll]

I'm curious if the other Sims somehow know if your Sim has kissed someone. My Sim went to France and had her first kiss (I figured as a young adult she never got to in High School). She returned home and called another Sim to invite out and he said "I don't feel like it right now".
Her reputation screen says 1 "active" romance.

[KimC]

I had two experiences with Reputation, my heartbreaker and another.  The heartbreaker had no problem at all getting her boyfriends.  Like I said before, I just made her friends with all of them before hand, that way i only took a few interactions to become romantic interest. I was sure to end the dates by saying goodbye, then went back to them to break up. After three breakups she got the Reputation of 'Exploring their Options', but never was accused of cheating and none of the new victims ever acting strangely.

The other experience I had was one of my Sims autonomously kissed his sister-in-law while his wife was at work. I realized it because it came up that he was 'Naughty'.  The wife came home, went about her business and never got mad, but the next Sim morning I had him perform 'ask to just be friends'. Since then the Naughty was removed and he hasn't had an issue with either of the two sisters.

[Esther1981]

Clean slate does get rid of all the old ones. If you are still in a relationship, do a couple flirty interactions with the bf/gf whatever and they will be listed as longest relationship.

[MoMoll]

Found out today that you can ask someone you meet "What do they say about me", and then they tell you if they've heard "Your Faithful", etc.
Thought it was funny, because the sim has "Commitment Issues" and when told he was "Faithful" he looked like he was going to be sick. Forgot to take apicture, so I'll have to see if it happens again.

[SweetSimmies]

The system is like real sensitive when it comes to romantic actions. My sims violet got the reputation of faithful and i was like yay! But then i sent her into town and she ran into an ex-boyfriend and she flirted with him. >.> i lost that reputation. I was not pleased. But her husband is labeled a cheater so i guess her flirting isn't going to hurt anything. lol

[Katluvr]

This whole romantic reputation thing is just way too sensitive.  I sent my new dynasty founder to the consignment shop and then turned my attention momentarily to another sim...when I got back it turns out the little tart kissed Beau Andrews!!!  Really?  Beau Andrews?!  Even River McIrish would be better than Beau Andrews!  Now they are considered romantic interests even though they have no relationship bar whatsoever.  It sounds like she will end up with a ding to her reputation when she has a real romantic interest... Remind me to NEVER, EVER take the flirty trait again!

[MoMoll]

I agree with Katlover that it is too sensitive.
While selling her paintings at the consignment shop, her best friend's daughter came in. So while the daughter and mother are sitting on the couch in the shop, my sim goes over and sits in a chair to chat to the Mom. I see the daughter' face in my sim's activty line and think it's for an autograph, and when I go to delete it it says "cuddle". My sim gets home and is publically disgraced for having romance with her best friend's daughter! It even mentioned the girls name in the thing. "Disgraced for romance with Diedre Littler". So I check her stats and yes it shows she betrayed her husband. Had to exit without saving.

[xakzen]

This aspect of the expansion needs to be fixed. It makes no distinction between RI & GF/BF. I have a new actress I wanted to max out Celeb as fast as possible. I used quite a lot of flirting and even a kiss here in there to get fast relationships with every Celeb she could find, but she never went steady with any of them. She now has a terrible rep as a cheater. Who exactly has she cheated on? I can understand the RI relationship bars going down, but why would the townies care as long as these weren't exclusive relationships.  Can't a gal/guy just date a few folks in down without getting a rep?

On the more naughty side she did WH with a married cast member to max out that relationship for job performance (like no one's ever heard of the cast couch ;). This was after she already had a terrible rep (why not embrace it?). It all went down in the privacy of her apartment, but still it got out somehow cause a few days later someone mentioned that Littler had cheated on his wife. Had he confessed to her or is the description in the manual about being discreet impossible?

[MoMoll]

RI are like the beginning of BF/GF, so you need to be careful. I played a sim who had 4 RI, she got JUST to the WH part and ended the date. Then she met the man of her dreams (or I should say my manipulation).  So, she broke off with the others and had a reputation of "checking for the the right one" or something in that nature (forget the exact words).

Did your sim have any celebrity stars? If so, they are game to paparazzi, etc. You have to be more descreet with celecrity stars. If the person leaves your house at 6am strutting like a rooster, than someone is going to see. So, I feed them or entertain them until the the strut mode is gone (2 hours).

[xakzen]

Did your sim have any celebrity stars? If so, they are game to paparazzi, etc. You have to be more descreet with celecrity stars.

Yeah the strategy worked like a charm, she was at 4 starts in a little over a week. Maybe the problem was the townies do care because she is so famous and the guy she supposedly cheated on was a 5 star (Hammy). Maybe it is tabloid fodder, but she didn't get the publicly disgraced thingly.

If the person leaves your house at 6am strutting like a rooster, than someone is going to see. So, I feed them or entertain them until the the strut mode is gone (2 hours).

I guess I always assumed the strut was just a humorous animation for the moodlet rather than something other sims actually observed as direct evidence of infidelity.

[MoMoll]

Oh no, the strut is something the paparazzi see; my sim at celeb 5 WH'd with a vampire (Vladimir) and when she was leaving the Pap were in the lobby taking pictures of her strutting. Made the Headline news. She had to try and sue to get rid of the disgrace.

[Pam]

I'm reviving this thread because I just had an instance where my Sim came home, walked up to her husband and autonomously accused him of cheating.  She got a whopping -50 Betrayed moodlet for 5 days and she won't listen to an apology from him.  They are barely acquaintances now.  The thing is, he hasn't cheated.  He goes to work and comes home.  That's it.  He did have a romantic interest before marrying Skittles, but he hasn't seen or spoken to her.  Now suddenly his relationship bar with her is almost maxed out.  And she's got a boyfriend!  My best guess is that the game just generates this and throws it in randomly for no apparent reason. 

[RunAmokSims]

I'm reviving this thread because I just had an instance where my Sim came home, walked up to her husband and autonomously accused him of cheating.  She got a whopping -50 Betrayed moodlet for 5 days and she won't listen to an apology from him.  They are barely acquaintances now.  The thing is, he hasn't cheated.  He goes to work and comes home.  That's it.  He did have a romantic interest before marrying Skittles, but he hasn't seen or spoken to her.  Now suddenly his relationship bar with her is almost maxed out.  And she's got a boyfriend!  My best guess is that the game just generates this and throws it in randomly for no apparent reason.

Pam, that and similar relationship "issues" are happening in my game and it's starting to get irritating. Sims that have not been out of my sight are getting accused of cheating. I have one Sim who hasn't even flirted with anyone but his wife and is being accused. I've recently had a Sim with a deceased spouse who has a naughty reputation because she is now dating again and I'm getting that bright pink "had a child out of wedlock" message.  It's  like extreme right wing news coverage has come to my town.

[MoMoll]

Pam, that and similar relationship "issues" are happening in my game and it's starting to get irritating. Sims that have not been out of my sight are getting accused of cheating. I have one Sim who hasn't even flirted with anyone but his wife and is being accused. I've recently had a Sim with a deceased spouse who has a naughty reputation because she is now dating again and I'm getting that bright pink "had a child out of wedlock" message.  It's  like extreme right wing news coverage has come to my town.

When your sim started dating again after her spouse died, didn't you see the option "Ask .... to break up with ...."? When my sim's spouse died i moved another sim in for her to have a new husband. He asked her to break up with Matthew and she said yes. In her relationship her dead husband was still noted as being her fiance. She never got the naughty reputation because she broke up with her dead husband. It may have something to do with being eternally faithful.

[cathyknits]

...and I think the game also expects you to "ask to just be friends" any leftover Romantic Interests, or that counts as cheating, too. ("Emotional infidelity" counts, I guess?) In my Dynasty there were a couple spouses who got "cheater" reputations based on that. Meanwhile in another game I did have a townie spouse "just be friends" with a former romantic interest after I moved him in but before the couple got married, and he ended up Eternally Faithful after that.

[MoMoll]

I think the romance has increased with Pets. In my new game, Ruben Littler wanted to ask my sim to "Watch the stars". I cancelled before he could. However, later when she met Renee and went to talk to her the option was there for "Fight". So somehow Renee knew about it and my sim had to apologize to her to keep her as a friend.

Also in this new game, my sim had no male sim make advances and flirt with her until I moved a male sim into her house. Then 3 different guys were offering her flowers whenever she went out, and Matt Hamming who was avoiding her started calling her almost daily.

It does lead to some funny moments!

[beardeux]

I have a sim who I was working with and when I closed the game he had the eternally faithful moodlet.  Upon opening the game next time, this moodlet was gone.  So I checked the girlfriend, she still has hers, and I had my sim ask a couple townies "what people say about him" and they say he is eternally faithful.  How can a sim lose that icon.  I've checked all his friendships - no romantic interests other than the girlfriend.

Can I assume that when people talk about reputations like cheating etc, it would be an icon in the moodlet panel.  Because I've never seen any type of reputation for any characters, married or single, except the eternally faithful one.  I've broken off a couple relationships with the "let's be friends" option but they were only romantic interest that happened without my knowing while working at other sims homes.  So the red heart showed up in the friendship list but there wasn't anything in the moodlet panel.

[MoMoll]

The only moodlets I've seen are "faithful" and "eternally faithful" for reputations. There's also the "betrayed" one if your sim's partner was caught cheating.

[heatherliz2002]

I had a similar problem in my game.  Two married sims who have been completely faithful to each other- I control them both I'm 100% sure there has been no flirting or anything with any other sims.  The husband randomly decided to accuse the wife of cheating and basically destroyed their relationship.  I had to use the clean slate lifetime reward for the wife, and the moodlet manager for the husband, and then spend an entire day repairing/rebuilding their relationship.  It was a major annoyance!

[MoMoll]

EA has put the relationship thing too high. If they think about another sim, want to jam with them, etc. and the same sim is often in their thoughts, I think EA makes it turn into a wish for more. I've had numerous problems with relationships and my sim was completely faithful; but, her husband didn't think so.
On the other hand, I had a sim who flirted with everyone in town and her relationship with her hubby was eternally faithful. Go figure!

[beardeux]

Hi all,  after I posted my message, I caught the girlfriend flirting with another sim and my guy talked to her and "she could see that he was insulted".  The option to kiss goodbye wasn't there.  Only goodbye.   She still has her eternally faithful moodlet.  His is still gone.  I thought it might come back, but not so far.  Strange she gets to keep hers.  I agree with you MoMoll - go figure...  I'm not very keen on how the relationship thing works. 

Another thing that really bothers me is when two sims sit on a bench (sex not withstanding) the cuddle icon at the top automatically comes up and I have to quickly click it off.  You really have to watch for that.  No more sitting on the bench.  A royal nuisance.
Bear

[ratchie]

In my tourist challenge game my Sim got the Cheater reputation followed by the manipulator reputaton then finally the casanova reputation.

Evidently having two woman as romantic interests means he is a cheater having six or seven equals a casanova. Such double standards  .

I have also had Sims accuse their other halves of cheating when they haven't but I guess that is true to life too.

Rachel

[Chuckles_82]

The wiki has a list of how the reputations progress. You need 7 romantic relationships to get the casanova reputation, which makes it easier to have romances. You only get the cheater reputation if you get caught, or if you confess. And that makes it harder to have romances.

Also, the 'betrayed' moodlet cancels out the effect of the LTR 'Master of Seduction'. Any flirty interactions you do will be met with negative reactions.

[smartburn]

Another thing that really bothers me is when two sims sit on a bench (sex not withstanding) the cuddle icon at the top automatically comes up and I have to quickly click it off.  You really have to watch for that.  No more sitting on the bench.  A royal nuisance.
Bear

Even cancelling the action doesn't always work! I had a happily married sim sitting on a bench when Alma Drill sat down and the action "Be cuddled with" appeared. They were best friends, nothing more. I got rid of the icon and I had my sim chat with her instead. My sim leaves to go meet her wife at the library, she starts reading there while her wife continues to work from home...next thing I know the wife drops everything in her queue and is "upset," my sim gets publicly disgraced and loses a couple of friends plus almost gets accused of cheating by the wife! I say almost because I exited without saving.

Honestly, I'm glad I exited because I had another sim recently who had a romantic interest that he never asked to be just friends, and about a week after he married my other sim, he was accused of cheating by the romantic interest - he and the romantic interest went from being best friends to slightly disliked as she considered him "unforgivably rude." The description cracked me up, but the loss in friendship did not - it would have been a huge pain if it had been his wife, and it could just as easily happened that way.

[sharpsiren]

I guess you both already know this but I'll say it anyway because I just had a problem: traits like flirty can get your sim in trouble right before your eyes! Even while controlling them. I've had it happen during conversations where I had a few socials like "chat" lined up. At one point Mortimer Goth almost had my sim kicked out of the house for behaving inappropriately with Cornelia. I couldn't figure out what happened, but I just went ahead and apologized to Gunther anyway (Mortimer had ratted my sim out to Gunther). All was well after that. I guess when they socialize at work this could also happen (?)

[sharpsiren]

@beardeux I just experienced a bench cuddling problem as well! In this case my sim was a gold digger so I went ahead and accepted the cuddle, and then old Landgraab freaked out on her and informed me he was married to Nancy.  He's the one who started cuddling before I even clicked the box to accept. I guess I'll be wary of benches now too.

[beardeux]

makes you wonder if all this romance is worth it...just like real life...

Anyway, I still don't have my eternally faithful moodlet back yet, don't know if it will come back.  Maybe he can earn it again.  Meanwhile, I'm keeping an eye on the girlfriend who has been flirting around yet keeps her EF moodlet.  I get perturbed when little things like this happen for seemingly no reason. 

It all comes of caring to much for these little friends of ours.
Bear

[MoMoll]

Another thing that really bothers me is when two sims sit on a bench (sex not withstanding) the cuddle icon at the top automatically comes up and I have to quickly click it off.  You really have to watch for that.  No more sitting on the bench.  A royal nuisance.
Bear

I had that happen sitting on the couch next to the teenage daughter of a friend. My female sim got a bad reputation for flirting with her friend's daughter, because I was watching her husband while he transacted business. They never touched each other; but, apparently the game acted like they did.