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Re: My Horse Ranch/Breeding Program
« Reply #125 on: October 25, 2011, 03:00:47 PM »
Joria ... thank you so very much!

1. My blog isn't informative concerning the game; it's nothing but a fanciful blog about a fictitious ranch -- the kind of thing I might do if I had a real horse ranch.

2. Thank you again. I'm afraid I have rambled more than a little.

3. I've been in love with horses -- all horses -- since I was a little snip.

4. With a preexisting family I don't know of a way you can go into CAS and create a new pet. It's possible to go into Edit Town and create a new family (with a pet), then merge that family with the other. In fact, I did that with my Sim's husband and his horse.

5. Not sure. I'd be guided by the animal's original name, if he had one.

6. You don't need anymore space than what is required for a box stall and enough additional room for the horse to move around to get in and out of the box stall. I should think a 5x5 area plus box stall would be sufficient for one horse.

7. See #6. You'll need that much for each horse/unicorn.

8. See # 6.

9. Horses will not enter through a pedestrian doorway -- they will only enter through the barn doors/passageways which require a second story.

10. I have built both open and enclosed barns (where stalls and stall doors are on the inside). I prefer the open style, where stalls are exposed on at least one side because the horses haven't as far to travel to be outside. Also, for woohoo'ing, horses need some maneuver room to get to the stall or they tend to block one another and the Try for Foal icon times out. Horses need exercise and they will gallop on their own if possible. A locked barn is probably too restrictive. The simplest solution is simply to put your stall outside, with no barn whatsoever.

11. I've built barns with and without foundations (see my example of a split-level barn in my first post in this thread). I prefer having my stalls at ground level, so it's easiest to not use foundations. Horses will not go up stairways. I'm currently designing a large veterinary facility that will have an area for small animals in the basement level, stalls and a surgical area on ground level for large animals, and an upstairs (2nd floor) for a laboratory and lounge space for the medical personnel. The lot will be designated as a hospital, where my current Sim's daughter will work.

12. I prefer terrain paint. In real life most stalls have dirt or composit flooring. Horse urine will rot wooden floors very quickly. Hard-surfaced substrates are iffy because horses can slip and fall in a confined surface and may not be able to get up. The reason horses seldom lie down to sleep is because their intestines twist easily and that spells death. Note that when they do get down to sleep, they're still in a somewhat upright position. There was a very famous Arabian stallion who got himself stuck on his back in a stall and he died overnight. Hard-surfaced stalls require a lot of bedding, usually wood shavings. Straw is NOT a good bedding material for horses because it is not as absorbant.

13. Yes, you need the twin pylons for racing. However, horses can max their racing skill while training on the advanced jump obstacles, it simply takes longer. As has been said previously, you can get away with one pair of pylons, or two, three, or four. An area with four pylons simply looks more natural when the horse is training.

14. Absolutely! I've tried to make my stallion, Scenic, like him. Instead of competing in advanced races for his Racehorse Champion component, I only entered him in international races. It took a bit longer, but I feel like he's a better horse for it (in my mind anyway  ;D )

Welcome to the fold, Joria. I am far and away having more fun with my Equestrian Sim than anything else I've ever done. Unlike all the others, my Sims and their ranch have taken on a life of their own ... and if you'll allow me to run full circle, that's part of what the blog is about.  

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Re: My Horse Ranch/Breeding Program
« Reply #126 on: October 25, 2011, 03:09:13 PM »
Any idea how long it takes from training ( Jumping/Racing ) for the horse to become fatigue? Im always plagued with the Pet Fatigue moodlet, sometimes it has a timer on the moodlet, which is about 6 hours and sometimes none, which means I don't know how long the moodlet lasts in which I will reload the game. Please help!

I can't answer that question competently. It depends on your horse's level of endurance and the quality of their sleep and possibly any moodlets that they begin exercise with. Once your horse achieves the 'Endurance Equine' component of the Racing skill, it will not get fatigued at all from training.



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Re: My Horse Ranch/Breeding Program
« Reply #127 on: October 25, 2011, 04:19:26 PM »
Couple things:
The gender of the horse is on the same tab as their age (it's a symbol.)

To add a horse to an existing family, go into CAS. Select a pre existing SIM, select the desired pet (in this case a horse, of course) then choose/edit your desired breed. After that merge the horse with your family (he or she will also add 15K to the household.)

And thank you, Mary, for your earlier feedback.

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Re: My Horse Ranch/Breeding Program
« Reply #128 on: October 25, 2011, 04:38:40 PM »
Bad news... I needed to uninstall/reinstall my games and so I will have to start my farm over.  Don't worry, I will still be using the same type of horses, etc. and the blog will still be the same...I just wanted you to know because the offspring could end up different.

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Re: My Horse Ranch/Breeding Program
« Reply #129 on: October 25, 2011, 05:51:00 PM »
Saracen Arabian Farm has Expanded Again

Saracen Arabian Farm's world-class trainers can now train in a state-of-the-art facility. Besides an international-level jumping course, the facility features a grandstand for clients, prospective clients, and visitors. Modern mens and womens restrooms are located under the grandstand. The facility also includes a 3-stall barn, party pavillion, and ample parking. The new property is located directly across the road from Saracen Arabian Farm's main facility and ranch house.


By marylcmarsh at 2011-10-25

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Technically, this is what I did:

1. Bulldozed and built up the lot to specifications for International training
2. Converted the property from Residential to Horse Ranch
3. Purchased the lot for 52K

Saracen Arabian Farms now comprises the following properties:

1. Original lot
2. Equestrian Center, which nets over 13K weekly
3. Appaloosa County Hunt Club, which nets over 5K weekly
4. Horse Farm expansion #1, which nets about 10K weekly
5. Horse Farm expansion #2, which nets about 10K weekly

Our next major expansion will include a 50x50 lot immediately adjacent to the International Training Facility. This will be our most energetic expansion, which will be an advanced veterinary hospital on three levels. The basement level will include complete medical facilities for small animals, the ground-floor level will be designated for large animals, and the upper level will include a laboratory and lounge for hospital personnel. This lot will be designated as a hospital. The hospital will serve all of Appaloosa County and outlying areas. We expect it to double our current revenue.

At present we are concentrating on taking Havivi (one of our broodmares) to the Jumping Star level. This is being done exclusively by Abbie's husband, Clint, who's working toward his Horseman's Profession mastery and completion of his Jockey LTW.


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Re: My Horse Ranch/Breeding Program
« Reply #130 on: October 25, 2011, 09:34:56 PM »
For some reason my horse won't gain any more racing skill. It's pretty much all the way on level 4 so almost to level 5.  The jumping skill is maxed out and even though I have racing poles and click train for racing with the horse, it won't go up. I also tried it with the rider which had riding skill level of 10 but it won't go up. you said you maxed both your skills out. Do I have to compete in a certain amount of races at the equestrian center? Please help. Thanks in advance!

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Re: My Horse Ranch/Breeding Program
« Reply #131 on: October 25, 2011, 11:17:59 PM »
There's another thread that answers this problem. If you have the Fountain of Youth or Spellbook on your lot, get rid of them.

I hope I got that right. I don't use custom or premium content; so, I wasn't paying that much attention to the thread.



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Re: My Horse Ranch/Breeding Program
« Reply #132 on: October 26, 2011, 06:44:42 AM »
The Fountain of Youth and magic book don't need to be on the lot to cause problems, they actually have to be removed from the game in the launcher if you are having this problem.  Also apparently the Uber toilet and the wind chimes.  I had the problem a few days ago and this fixed it, along with clearing out all of the caches.

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Re: My Horse Ranch/Breeding Program
« Reply #133 on: October 26, 2011, 10:19:01 AM »
Meet Caliope


By marylcmarsh at 2011-10-26

Caliope is Saracen Arabian Farm's landmark foal. She is the 30th foal born on the farm and she is Havivi's first foal since Havivi attained Jumping Star status. Caliope is also the daughter of Scenic, who is a Racing Champion and Jumping Star. Since both of Caliope's parents have achieved Champion status she is our most valuable foal to date.

Caliope will not be sold; instead, she will become the foundation mare on our next expansion lot.

In preparation for another kind of expansion, we have enlarged the main farmhouse by adding a second floor. The house now features four bedrooms, five baths, and a large multipurpose room where family members can pursue other interests. On the rear of the house there's also a huge second-story balcony where outdoor-loving family members can oversee farm happenings while relaxing.

The photo, below, shows a good depiction of the farm's current expanse, with the new International training area in the middle lower right. To the left is our promenade-style barn (a part of our first expansion), and in the upper left is our newly renovated farm house and the original barn. Fore and aft chimneys are for fireplaces in the main family room and upstairs master bedroom.


By marylcmarsh at 2011-10-26

The next photo, below, shows the rear of the farmhouse, where the second-floor balcony is clearly visible. A portion of the original barn can be seen in the lower right. Scenic and Havivi can be seen grazing in the breeding pen.


By marylcmarsh at 2011-10-26

Our next expansion will be the lot to the immediate left of the International training facility. It will include an all-in-one residence and barn, where living quarters are located upstairs.

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Re: My Horse Ranch/Breeding Program
« Reply #134 on: October 26, 2011, 11:48:48 AM »
I just have to say Mary, this thread is amazing. The thought you have put into all this made me start my own horse ranch. I left the aging on tho so it will take a little while longer to achieve what you have but, goals to shoot for. Keep up the amazing work and keep us updated.

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« Reply #135 on: October 26, 2011, 12:36:14 PM »
I just have to say Mary, this thread is amazing. The thought you have put into all this made me start my own horse ranch. I left the aging on tho so it will take a little while longer to achieve what you have but, goals to shoot for. Keep up the amazing work and keep us updated.

Ralinth ... thank you so very much!!! Welcome to the forum and good luck with your ranch.

I used to play with aging on, but I become quite invested in my Sims and it depresses me terribly when they die. My last Sim, with whom I'd worked all the way through Private Investigator, DNA Forensic Analysis, Leader of the Free World professions, and with whom I'd achieved all the Martial Arts components, died when she was struck by a comet. I had deathflower seeds, but I'd never planted them  :-\ Her house was a totally gorgeous George W. Marston House-inspired Craftsman 2-story bungalow. I was so torn over her death that I quit playing for over a month.

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« Reply #136 on: October 26, 2011, 12:52:06 PM »
I was so torn over her death that I quit playing for over a month.

Wow. That's heavy. Did it occur to you to just exit the game without saving?

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« Reply #137 on: October 26, 2011, 01:11:27 PM »
Wow. That's heavy. Did it occur to you to just exit the game without saving?

Yup, and I do save often. But dead is dead. There're no do overs in real life and I don't play the game that way either.

If you hadn't noticed, I try to play as realistic a game as possible. That's one reason my current farmhouse is located as is -- front and rear entrances far away from active areas to minimize dust infiltration into the house. There's even a mud room just off the rear entrance. My actual game play is the same--I don't use cheats (except for the initial capitalization of the farm) and I don't pursue unrealistic opportunities/challenges (I actually have opportunities turned off at present). It's another reason I eschew things like unicorns and don't invite rodents and other critters onto the farm. But that's just me.

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« Reply #138 on: October 26, 2011, 01:50:42 PM »
Well I think it's amazing how much you're achieving with your ranch and how much you're inspiring everyone else. I think you're an amazing person for sharing all this with us. I'm really looking forward to having a better go at ranch myself once I get my sim-handling skills up a bit better. I'm finding I'm bored with the normal jobs now though. So I'm off to find out if it's possible to get a job on a horse ranch or in the equestrian centre. I want my sim to spend time with horses on a daily basis while developing a bit and finding a mate, then starting a family. Then once i can handle that well enough I'm hoping I can move them into the ranch and play that out properly. Well that's my dream anyway. Small steps to get there.  No more trying to run and jump before I can walk.

One question: if you play with aging off, what cheat is it that ages them the next step when you do want it to happen? [if you'd rather not clutter this thread with it can you please message me?]  Ta

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« Reply #139 on: October 26, 2011, 04:33:14 PM »
Here's a question for you.... If you have gotten both the male and female horse to reach the Racing Champion and Jumping Star statuses, is the foal worth more than if just one parent has reached that point? Or, does each bonus only apply once?
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« Reply #140 on: October 26, 2011, 05:46:18 PM »
Hey Mary!  Thanks so much for bringing such inspiration to the forum in regards to horse ranching!

I've started my own little ranch and I've got some pretty mixed horses.  My problem is that I can't seem to part with them as foals, so I wait until they grow up, and then train them, and THEN sometimes I sell them.  Of course, that takes quite a bit of time so I haven't had that many of them!  Have you done much of this?  And if you have, what's the difference in price between a foal and a trained horse?  When I wait until they're grown and trained they sell for between 10,000-18,000 per horse.  I guess I"m trying to find out if it's worth waiting or if it's better to just sell the foals?

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« Reply #141 on: October 26, 2011, 06:15:06 PM »
I'm lost! Hopelessly lost!  Head over heels in love and now am wondering what I can do next.  First of all my first thoughts were, "hmm, this is cool I'll get a horse or two, or three, or......".  Decided it would be a wild horse first for the challenge of actually making friends with one in hopes of getting a unicorn.  Got my horse.  Here she is, my darling Caro, (I'm going to re-name her Desdemona):





I have no idea what "breed" she is but she is absolutely beautiful and my bff.  I will never sell her.  I turned aging off because I cannot face the possibility of her dying.

Ok, that worked so my next thought was, "that was fun wonder if I can get the other really pretty horse?"  So I did.  Here is Pintura:  (name suggestions would be appreciated)





I noticed Pintura is very close to elder so decided ok, one nice ride off to the horse place and she gets sold.  Pintura thinks she can run like the wind.  She is also my best friend.  We got there and that's where I got lost.  I could NOT sell her!  I tried, honestly I tried.  But at the last minute I cancelled it and went home riding on my beautiful painted pony, crying my eyes out.

This does NOT bode well for business!  So, no horse ranch for me.  Instead, I am going to build a wildlife rescue facility with horses as my main focus but other breeds, as found, as well.  Our family is large enough and rich enough they can care for them all.  Here in Oregon we've had quite a few problems with people having too many animals they can't care for.  The picture of a horse with hooves so long they are growing up into her legs and she is unable to walk is heartbreaking.  (She's ok now.)  I am not rich, and I AM handicapped and too old, so in real life I can't take in mustangs, Chincoteague ponies or anything other than our small pets.  But in Sims I can!  So I'll probably call on you for help in organizing and remodeling my ranch to suite the needs of a large facility that will take in, love and care for, and hopefully be able to sell the wild horses roaming around AP.

Pintura and Caro are both very small.  Pintura seems a bit sturdier/stockier than Caro and has a much different shape to her beautiful face.  I have not changed them in CAS at all except I did make Caro's coat a shade blacker.  What is your closest guess as to their lineage?  Caro is fast and Pintura likes to jump.

By the way,  your spread is amazing.  You are quite a fabulous builder as well as a great breeder.
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Re: My Horse Ranch/Breeding Program
« Reply #142 on: October 26, 2011, 07:41:31 PM »
One question: if you play with aging off, what cheat is it that ages them the next step when you do want it to happen? [if you'd rather not clutter this thread with it can you please message me?]  Ta

Lesley ... 

1. Type SHIFT-CONTROL-C. this will get you into the console (screen darker, and a dark blue bar at the top)
2. Type testingcheatsenabled true, then ENTER
3. SHIFT-Left Click on the Sim you want to age up
4. Select Trigger Age Up

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« Reply #143 on: October 26, 2011, 07:44:29 PM »
Here's a question for you.... If you have gotten both the male and female horse to reach the Racing Champion and Jumping Star statuses, is the foal worth more than if just one parent has reached that point? Or, does each bonus only apply once?

I think so, but I'm not entirely sure. My foal who's parents are double champions won't be sold and I've you to breed the two horses back to one another. That said, I presume there will be a bonus.

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« Reply #144 on: October 26, 2011, 07:55:54 PM »
Joria ... Your horses are terrific. Even though I've never owned one, I do have a fondness for Painted Horses -- especially ones I've seen that have been bred back to Thoroughbreds and Arabians. They can be quite striking.

I'm also an animal lover. I've rescued any number of dogs. My favorite was an old Sheltie-Lab mix I snatched from a busy intersection. She lived only a few more years, but she was a terrific companion and terribly loyal.

There's no way really determining 'breed' in Sim 3 Pets. The designation of Breed in CAS is for making limited conformation and coloring changes. That said, I've tried to develop a line of horses that closely resembled the Arabian breed standard -- small muzzle, dished face, long arching neck, flat rump, and large intelligent eyes. Also, Arabians should not have spots or excessively high white stockings or too much white on the face. Occasionally the game will give me a foal that doesn't  fit the standard and I adopt them out rather than selling. This isn't necessary, but in my pretend Sim world it's the appropriate thing to do. Yeah, yeah, yeah ... I'm silly, but I'm doing my best to play my ranch like the real deal.

Ranching is most definitely the best thing EA ever came up with. I'm having a blast.

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Re: My Horse Ranch/Breeding Program
« Reply #145 on: October 26, 2011, 08:00:04 PM »
One question: if you play with aging off, what cheat is it that ages them the next step when you do want it to happen? [if you'd rather not clutter this thread with it can you please message me?]  Ta
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« Reply #146 on: October 26, 2011, 08:02:10 PM »
I've started my own little ranch and I've got some pretty mixed horses.  My problem is that I can't seem to part with them as foals, so I wait until they grow up, and then train them, and THEN sometimes I sell them.  Of course, that takes quite a bit of time so I haven't had that many of them!  Have you done much of this?  And if you have, what's the difference in price between a foal and a trained horse?  When I wait until they're grown and trained they sell for between 10,000-18,000 per horse.  I guess I"m trying to find out if it's worth waiting or if it's better to just sell the foals?

Aria ... normally, I train my foals so they're level-10 in both jumping and racing before selling. This also gets them the FAST and AGILE traits (though most of my foals are born with these owing to their parents). I also work with the babies to get BFF status, which usually nets me the OBEDIENT trait. Horses with more positive traits sell for more.

Before my Sim was married, it was not cost effective to train both skills up to 10, but now I can have either Abbie or Clint running the jumps or race course while the other is tending to chores or at the Equestrian Center doing competitions.

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« Reply #147 on: October 26, 2011, 08:21:28 PM »
Saracen Arabian Farm has expanded yet again. Our newest facility is a dedicated breeding center. The three-stall barn is setup with corales adjacent to each stall. With the stallion in the middle corale, it's an easy task to put him with one of the mares on either side of him. With gates locked and human sims out of the way, the breeding process is much simpler.

The residence/barn is a modern take on a Cape Code-inspired Victorian, with Turret, bay window, and gables. The bottom floor is split-leveled, with three horse stalls, office, parlor, bathroom, laundry room, dining room, central staircase, and island kitchen. The 2nd floor has two bedrooms, two baths, and an exercise area. The first-floor office is in the turret; thus, while working on farm breeding records my Sim will still have a very good view of the horses.

The photo, below, shows the overall lot.


By marylcmarsh at 2011-10-26

The photo, below, shows the residence/barn from the front.


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The last photo shows a clearer view of the stall arrangement and how the breeding corales are configured.


By marylcmarsh at 2011-10-26

Saracen Arabian Farm currently owns the community lot as a horse ranch; however, when Abbie and Clint's daughter is old enough, she will move onto the lot and will manage all breeding operations. It is our intent to eventually move three of Scenic's female offspring to the facility as broodmares. We are in the process of acquiring a second Arabian stallion that will be trained and who will compete in racing and jumping. At the appropriate time, he will be moved to the breeding facility with the mares. This facility will provide the capability to carry on Scenic's bloodline.

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« Reply #148 on: October 26, 2011, 09:53:03 PM »
Ok, I think I'm still missing something.  You train your foals before they age up to adult??  How do you do that without being able to ride them?  Mine are all born with the untrained trait, and with no way to ride them I can't get rid of that until they age up?  Or is there some other way?  I do the reinforce option each time it comes up. 

Again, I am probably totally missing something.

And as far as skills go, the tab for skills doesn't show anything until they age up to adult, right?  But once they age up the skills appear, usually starting out pretty high if they're the "children" of highly skilled horses.


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« Reply #149 on: October 26, 2011, 10:06:54 PM »
You are correct. I have three broodmares that are perpetually pregnant. With room for only two foals at a time I'm compelled to trigger aging manually. I usually do this about the time one or the other of my Sims achieves BFF status with the foal. I understand this is something of a cheat, but the limitation of having only six horses per lot is unrealistic for any player interested in simulating a serious breeding operation.