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Re: The Consignment Shop in General and its Relation to Experience
« Reply #50 on: June 13, 2010, 10:38:49 PM »
I think you can sell stuff in your family inventory. How else would a Time Machine get there?

I wasn't asking if you could outright sell stuff from family inventory. I already know that one can do that. I was asking if anyone had any luck in consigning stolen items.

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Re: The Consignment Shop in General and its Relation to Experience
« Reply #51 on: June 14, 2010, 04:07:32 AM »
From what I've heard and from my own experience, money made from the consignment store doesn't count toward your job experience.  Try selling it from your Sim's inventory.  You won't get the extra that you get from consignment, but it will count toward your promotion.
That is not quite right, Pam. I have Don Lothario in the painter career. He is currently on level 5, and he has gained all his work experience for the 5 levels exclusively through selling his paintings at the Consignment Store. From what I have read around different forums so far it seems nobody has figured out yet in which situations consignment store sales count and when not.

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Re: The Consignment Shop in General and its Relation to Experience
« Reply #52 on: June 14, 2010, 04:53:15 AM »
It does seem to be a hit and miss situation. I am currently playing a married couple. She is an artist and he is an inventor. All her experience so far has come from selling her paintings at the consignment store (I can't remember what level she is though).  Her husband though, has to sell his inventions through the inventory because he gains no experience and the sale price does not add up if he sells through the store.
I wonder if it has something to do with having 2 sims using it. When sales don't count, what has been the status for most people? Was it a second sim who was trying to sell stuff or was it a solo sim who was the only one taking stuff there?
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Re: The Consignment Shop in General and its Relation to Experience
« Reply #53 on: June 14, 2010, 08:02:03 AM »
Solo sim for me. My first ever attempt to sell stuff was paintings, if I remember correctly, but no affect to self-employment.

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« Reply #54 on: June 14, 2010, 08:07:20 AM »
Solo sim for me. My first ever attempt to sell stuff was paintings, if I remember correctly, but no affect to self-employment.

OK, guess that puts an end to that theory.

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Re: The Consignment Shop in General and its Relation to Experience
« Reply #55 on: June 14, 2010, 08:31:13 AM »
From what I've heard and from my own experience, money made from the consignment store doesn't count toward your job experience.  Try selling it from your Sim's inventory.  You won't get the extra that you get from consignment, but it will count toward your promotion.

My artist sold all his painting through the consignment store and it did count towards promotion. Once I did notice it had not been added to the employment page, but I think that was like lag, because 5 minutes later is was.

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« Reply #56 on: June 17, 2010, 06:02:39 PM »
I've had sculptors and artists consign items and had them count toward the self-employment.

Now I started a new game, and my sim can bring paintings to the shop, and they show up in the list of items, but they won't sell. When I click on cancel consignments, all the paintings show up as having been there for five days even though I just put them in 20 minutes previous.

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Re: The Consignment Shop in General and its Relation to Experience
« Reply #57 on: June 17, 2010, 07:45:40 PM »
I've had sculptors and artists consign items and had them count toward the self-employment.

Now I started a new game, and my sim can bring paintings to the shop, and they show up in the list of items, but they won't sell. When I click on cancel consignments, all the paintings show up as having been there for five days even though I just put them in 20 minutes previous.

That's how many days they have left to sell, not how long they have been there.

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« Reply #58 on: June 18, 2010, 10:52:05 PM »
In doing some testing for the upcoming da Vinci All You Can Make Buffet I uncovered a very key fact — it would seem that it does not make a difference who sells the goods at the Consignment shops as far as how much money is made. I had about 10 sculptures in family inventory and had the sculptor run over to the shop 3 separate times. He had the Born Salesman trait as well as Suave Seller reward. The totals were 15.9k, 17.7, and 12k. I reran the test 3 times with the sculptor's wife and I gave her the Born Saleswoman trait as well as the reward and her totals were 13k, 17.6k, and 12.1k. So, overall she had a little less, but it would appear the range is essentially the same — 12k to almost 18k per day.

This is key info for the challenge because I had it in my mind (and I think other players did too) that the actual artist needed to make the sales. I even double checked to see if the sculptor's experience bar rose in his Sculpting career when the wife went to the shop, and it did. So, this is really good news for two reasons — the sculptor does not need the Born Salesman trait and you can fill the slot with something that would better benefit him, and there's a lot of time gained over a lengthy challenge if a utility Sim can shuttle the goods for the artist.

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« Reply #59 on: June 19, 2010, 01:24:02 PM »
More reading and testing to do, but our family [Firefighter/part-time Inventor and his wife Investigator] can't action the consignment store register [or Clerk] properly either.

This really is the buggiest expansion EA has ever produced [and we've been there through TS1 and TS2 and TS3 with all the expansions.  :o

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« Reply #60 on: June 19, 2010, 02:15:04 PM »
This really is the buggiest expansion EA has ever produced [and we've been there through TS1 and TS2 and TS3 with all the expansions.

I agree.  I've never had major bug problems with any other EP and I too have been playing since the beginning.

My problems with the consignment shop started when my sculptor unloaded an ice sim that was, for some reason, valued at $0.  I thought that was strange but didn't realize it could ruin my game.    :-\   At the same time, my inventor unloaded maybe around 50 widgets, which I also didn't realize could ruin my game.  So I'm not sure which did my game in, because nothing would sell afterwards.  After waiting a few days, I tried to remove all of my consigned items (the ice sculpture no longer had an image), but that didn't do any good.  I then tried to restart the game (completely, not just going to the main menu) but when I tried to load them up, there was some error message that told me I could try to load them up again but strange things might happen.  So I started playing a different game file -- oops!  Should have restarted the game.  When I went back to the main menu, the first game had reverted back to an earlier time, before the sculptor caught on fire and died, and before their Past offspring made his debut.  So I just deleted them and hoped that my next games wouldn't be as buggy.  And it hasn't but I've also tried not to use the consignment shop as much.

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« Reply #61 on: June 19, 2010, 02:44:42 PM »
I had an ice sculpture disappear on consignment (no picture). I assumed it had melted, and it didn't affect gameplay in any buggy way for me.
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Re: The Consignment Shop in General and its Relation to Experience
« Reply #62 on: June 19, 2010, 04:58:35 PM »
Well, I sure hope EA releases a patch soon. The da Vinci event starts in 3 weeks and given the way the rule set is now structured it's going to be to everyone's advantage to try and get the most money possible out of their Inventions, Paintings, and Sculptures.

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« Reply #63 on: June 20, 2010, 01:00:09 PM »
I don't know if anyone's mentioned this particular twist, but I think I should caution players who might try playing legacy or other challenges using the consignment shop for self-employed sales.

I started my very first Founder for a legacy and since she was an artist and gardener, she registered as a self-employed painter in Sunset Valley. Cornelia Goth was her consignment clerk and everything worked out well. Then I realized that a normal span would not be enough time for my style of playing, so I extended it to long span. My guess is that the town continued at normal span, because Cornelia retired and was replaced by a Langerak. Ever since he took the till, the shop has been bugged. I have the option to buy, but it vanishes until I remove consignments, then seems to work and let me consign new stuff. Unfortunately, my brilliant paintings don't sell anymore. I remove them and wait a day, put them back, no sales.

I could sell the work outright, but I've adapted my play to the higher sales. I clearly learned that townies live normal span, and now I understand why normal spans are the limit for legacies. I guess I'm trying to raise too many skills for the shorter life span for the founder.

I wonder if others have found that the retirement or change of clerk affects the consignment shop.
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« Reply #64 on: June 21, 2010, 12:43:03 AM »
Townies are supposed to age at the same rate as your Sims.  It might be that the consignment shop is so bugged that it's messing up other things, as well.  Legacies are played on normal life setting because it's more challenging to reach the milestones that give you points and allow the family line to continue.
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« Reply #65 on: June 21, 2010, 12:52:10 AM »
Thanks, that helps me understand. I guess Cordelia was adult to mature while my sim was young adult. By the way, I waited a few days, and put a few of the items back on consignment and they sold successfully. Now I'm afraid to try selling a dozen at a time in case that was the source of the problem.
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« Reply #66 on: June 21, 2010, 04:28:46 AM »
Yeah, Cornelia isn't far from elderhood when the game starts.  Her husband, Gunther, ages to elder within just a few days and I hate that because I love his adult look.  :)
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« Reply #67 on: June 21, 2010, 10:39:44 AM »
Yes in my brand new sunset valley game, I cannot interact with the consignment store whatsoever. Regardless of the type of item. :(

Rather annoying, hopefully it get's fixed soon.

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« Reply #68 on: June 21, 2010, 01:12:52 PM »
Yes in my brand new sunset valley game, I cannot interact with the consignment store whatsoever. Regardless of the type of item. :(

Rather annoying, hopefully it get's fixed soon.

From what I've read, it sometimes takes several game days before the consignment store is "seeded" with a clerk, etc. Let us know if it opens up soon.
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« Reply #69 on: June 21, 2010, 01:48:42 PM »
Well it's been a week game time. Clerk has been there the whole time, whenever I click on the register I get nothing.

Whenever I try to Buy items from the clerk, a few moments pass and then the action is cancelled. :(

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« Reply #70 on: June 21, 2010, 01:53:24 PM »
Well it's been a week game time. Clerk has been there the whole time, whenever I click on the register I get nothing.

Whenever I try to Buy items from the clerk, a few moments pass and then the action is cancelled. :(

You hadn't consigned anything before? Canceling usually works for fixing that for me. I haven't encountered a situation where I couldn't consign anything from the outset.

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« Reply #71 on: June 21, 2010, 02:37:00 PM »
Nope, I haven't been able to consign anything period. :(

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« Reply #72 on: June 21, 2010, 02:41:44 PM »
Cash registers had problems when World Adventures first came out. Deleting them and putting in a new one fixed it (with the buydebug testingcheat). I wonder if you save your game then try that it'll work.

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« Reply #73 on: June 21, 2010, 06:55:14 PM »
Today while I was playing the consignment store wasn't working...What I mean is I would click on the register and then pressed buy...The sim would talk to the consignment store guy but then when it was time for the buy and sell window to come up nothing would happen...So I decided to save and quit my game for awhile to see if it would work again...An hour later I came back to play the Sims again and it turns out I quit my game but never saved  :o oops! Good news was it went back 2 days before (sims time) so I tried the consignment store again and the same thing happened...Any ideas of what I could do?

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« Reply #74 on: June 21, 2010, 07:12:01 PM »
There is already a large thread about things like that. http://www.carls-sims-3-forum.com/index.php/topic,1165.0.html
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