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Re: Completing an Immortal Dynasty Hints and Tips (Not Questions)
« Reply #550 on: May 22, 2013, 09:23:02 PM »
oh, that's handy to know, thanks for sharing, Rosa. That contributed to me not going near the other instruments in my previous attempts at the 1 sim band and supermax instrument combo

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Re: Completing an Immortal Dynasty Hints and Tips (Not Questions)
« Reply #551 on: May 22, 2013, 11:49:30 PM »
For anyone who has Supernatural, I have a huge tip that I discovered in my ID, especially when trying to store items not needed: buy an alchemy cabinet early on.  It's like a WA chest that you don't have to travel for.  Though it can't store everything the chest can store, Sims won't randomly open it to get anything.  Also, books can be stored in it, which means you can place skill books inside that you don't want a Sim to read.  I never realized how crucial and dead useful an Alchemy cabinet was until now, but I love having one!

Also, if you plan to have Nectar-Making supermax, I thought of a handy way to keep track of the grapes count: only allow the Nectar-Maker heir to harvest/plant grapes.  Nothing else but grapes.  Make a separate garden for grapes that only the Nectar-Maker can access, and never let them harvest/garden anything but the grapes.  The gardening skill has a handy tracker for number of items planted and harvested.  So, if the nectar maker is never allowed to harvest anything but grapes, then there's no math involved when trying to remember the number of grapes they've harvested for the Vizard of Vine challenge.  And, grapes are accessible at level one of gardening.

As for learning skills, the Multitab can be a blessing and a curse.  One thing I have noticed is that Sims will randomly decided to listen to a tabcast if they have no tasks in que, which can be a nuisance if there are too many Sims to keep track of.  I have one Multitab in my game, and I constantly pull it into a closed off room to prevent my Sims from skilling up in something that another heir is supposed to supermax (like Writing and Logic, which are often tabcast selections for idle Sims).  Though it is an easy way to get through skills, keep in mind that the Sim with a Multitab has to be watched all the time.  I'm on gen 2 (my Founder is immortal) and gen 2 recently completed her LTW of Renaissance Sim using the Multitab, but after she finished level 10 of cooking (her other two skills were fishing and gardening with fishing as her Supermax), the multitab was removed from her inventory and placed in an enclosed room of the basement so that no one could use it.  On the bright side, the Multitab can be passed down from generation to generation for use, and all spares (spouses, extra children, and moved-in townies) can be given the Multitab for whatever you need.  A spare fisher?  Use the multitab.  Need a gardener until a later generation?  Multitab.  Another plus is that you can multitask and children can still listen to tabcasts while in school for select skills.  So, have them start a tabcast before they head to school and they'll skill up while in school.  Very handy tidbit!

I hope some of these help others with their IDs.  I've found them dead useful just by testing the waters.

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Re: Completing an Immortal Dynasty Hints and Tips (Not Questions)
« Reply #552 on: May 23, 2013, 08:06:29 PM »
Also, if you plan to have Nectar-Making supermax, I thought of a handy way to keep track of the grapes count: only allow the Nectar-Maker heir to harvest/plant grapes.  Nothing else but grapes.  Make a separate garden for grapes that only the Nectar-Maker can access, and never let them harvest/garden anything but the grapes.  The gardening skill has a handy tracker for number of items planted and harvested.  So, if the nectar maker is never allowed to harvest anything but grapes, then there's no math involved when trying to remember the number of grapes they've harvested for the Vizard of Vine challenge.  And, grapes are accessible at level one of gardening.


It would seem that using Common grapes available at home is not the best idea. See this post by Rica on the Immortal Dynasty thread for tips on SuperMaxing Nectar-Making.
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Re: Completing an Immortal Dynasty Hints and Tips (Not Questions)
« Reply #553 on: May 23, 2013, 08:31:18 PM »
Also remember that if a challenge doesn't register as complete.  You can't just say it's complete - you have to get permission first.  The challenge board team has to say it's ok to keep going without that darkened text. 

And yes all testing ever done by several members always pointed to using non france grapes can lead to the challenge never working.  It has to be the french grapes.
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Re: Completing an Immortal Dynasty Hints and Tips (Not Questions)
« Reply #554 on: May 23, 2013, 11:52:58 PM »
It would seem that using Common grapes available at home is not the best idea. See this post by Rica on the Immortal Dynasty thread for tips on SuperMaxing Nectar-Making.

I bet mald1983 means renoit and cherimola blan grapes that are Champs Les Sims common variety, so can be planted and harvested at level 1 gardening.

There are two common, two uncommon and two rare kind of grapes but you can supermax with only one variety.

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Re: Completing an Immortal Dynasty Hints and Tips (Not Questions)
« Reply #555 on: May 25, 2013, 12:12:09 PM »
Not exactly a tip, but something curious I noticed while playing. Some of my townies have exceptionally long lives. My Gen 3 is now young adult and Illiana Langerak is STILL alive!!! Is this a common feature with broken story progression?
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Re: Completing an Immortal Dynasty Hints and Tips (Not Questions)
« Reply #556 on: May 25, 2013, 12:13:31 PM »
This is random and happened before and after babies stopped being born.   She's not a fairy or vamp right?

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Re: Completing an Immortal Dynasty Hints and Tips (Not Questions)
« Reply #557 on: May 25, 2013, 12:59:51 PM »
You also get far fewer opportunities if you skill up and max before Young Adult or in a travel location (this includes University).   This also goes for Multi Tab and Brain Enhancing use.

 Lucky for me, she already had her 6 opportunities. Now, come to think of it, my third heir is a teen and attempting to supermax writing while in China. Hmm... I might have to to rethink. I'll have her do all of her High School Opps. But I plan for her to career to be the rabbithole for writing, so she'll probably get some Opps there. (I can't remember what the career's actual name is... business, maybe?)
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Re: Completing an Immortal Dynasty Hints and Tips (Not Questions)
« Reply #558 on: May 25, 2013, 01:03:08 PM »
Journalism uses charisma and writing though if that's what you mean.  Business doesn't require a skill.  Yeah opps can be good from rabbit hole careers as long as it's not a combination one.


Just remember with the mods you're downloading that they can't be active in your dynasty or you lose HOF status.
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Re: Completing an Immortal Dynasty Hints and Tips (Not Questions)
« Reply #559 on: May 29, 2013, 05:25:52 PM »
With the release of Dragon Valley on May 30th, all players of the dynasty challenges are asked to refrain from using any of it's content until the challenge board team has had time to review what is being released. 

If you want to explore the new content, that is what a new game is for.   Dynasties are not allowed to be started in this world until after the go ahead is given.   That means don't start one saying "Oh they'll approve it of course.  I just won't post until they do."

Remember the challenge team is made up of people, too.   Two out of three have children of their own while the other one's job centers around children.  We have families and we would like to play some ourselves while still making sure you guys have all the information you need.   Just like with University Life, we will get back to everyone as soon as is possible with our three schedules.   This material is not banned infinitely.  Just for now.

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Re: Completing an Immortal Dynasty Hints and Tips (Not Questions)
« Reply #560 on: May 29, 2013, 08:45:38 PM »
Journalism uses charisma and writing though if that's what you mean.  Business doesn't require a skill.  Yeah opps can be good from rabbit hole careers as long as it's not a combination one.


Just remember with the mods you're downloading that they can't be active in your dynasty or you lose HOF status.
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Re: Completing an Immortal Dynasty Hints and Tips (Not Questions)
« Reply #561 on: May 29, 2013, 08:47:32 PM »
You would have to remove it from your game completely to keep HOF status.   It can't be installed at all.
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Re: Completing an Immortal Dynasty Hints and Tips (Not Questions)
« Reply #562 on: May 29, 2013, 09:18:18 PM »
(I don't use mods at all, so this is not for my benefit.)

If she wanted to do so, would it be acceptable to reinstall the mod while playing other non-Challenge games, and then when time to play the Immortal Dynasty, uninstall it (and then reinstall later for non-Challenge games)?

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Re: Completing an Immortal Dynasty Hints and Tips (Not Questions)
« Reply #563 on: May 29, 2013, 09:22:09 PM »
Yes you can do that as long as the challenge or dynasty file is never opened while the mod is in place.  That's why it's always recommended to do the factory reset option for challenge files.  I actually have one folder for dynasties, one folder for challenges without any store content installed and one folder with all the mods I love to use in it for my fun games.
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Re: Completing an Immortal Dynasty Hints and Tips (Not Questions)
« Reply #564 on: May 29, 2013, 09:40:02 PM »
After a half day of playing with them, I've come to very much dislike the playpen I got with Aurora Skies for use in immortal dynasties. I've found that adults in the household will randomly choose to take toddlers from their cot and put them in the playpen and that the toddlers will then choose to either play with the mirror (I presume in time, it'll increase charisma) or play with the abacus (I presume in time it'll increase logic - like the peg blocks do). There is also an option for the toddler in their walkers to "play in walker" which seems to also be increasing some kind of hidden skill (which I presume when they get older will increase the toddler's athletic skill).

Thankfully this has just been happening to the future-spouse-to-generation-two-toddler and not the generation-two-toddler, as I've been keeping him busy with his imaginary friend doll.

I also had a photographer train his camera on the pen and the walker, and it didn't seem to register as anything.

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Re: Completing an Immortal Dynasty Hints and Tips (Not Questions)
« Reply #565 on: May 29, 2013, 09:41:06 PM »
The walker is actually handiness.  You're right about the playpen though.  It's logic and charisma.
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Re: Completing an Immortal Dynasty Hints and Tips (Not Questions)
« Reply #566 on: May 31, 2013, 10:33:34 AM »
But I plan for her to career to be the rabbithole for writing, so she'll probably get some Opps there. (I can't remember what the career's actual name is... business, maybe?)

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Re: Completing an Immortal Dynasty Hints and Tips (Not Questions)
« Reply #567 on: June 01, 2013, 04:27:18 PM »
My second generation immortal's childhood fell during winter and each day proved to be declared a snow day. I really wanted to pick his childhood-teenage trait, and I decided I was going to have to pass up my plan to make a latter immortal supermax logic as a result and risk him gaining too much logic from being tutored. He had no logic points prior to being tutored, and as a child, he was tutored from a C level to an A level and gained no logic as a result of the home tutoring, so I was rather pleased with that outcome, and at this stage, logic is still a viable supermax, probably generation 3.

Also, I've set my seasons to 15 days each this time round. For my first winter, Snowflake Day has fallen on Saturday, which seems to simply mean I have an extra day for a snow day, which does impact school, but not fishing.

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Re: Completing an Immortal Dynasty Hints and Tips (Not Questions)
« Reply #568 on: June 01, 2013, 07:35:13 PM »
With the skilling glitch that came with patch 1.50, it can be harder than ever to keep your immortals from invalidating each other's supermaxes. The key to preventing the glitch is to save with everyone in a mood lower than Elated; i.e., their mood bars are not glowing. Here are some tips I've discovered that help lower mood:

  • The following elixirs are helpful: Flask of Angry Bees, Origin of the Tragic Clown, Potent Melancholy Serum, Ad Nauseam
  • The following potions from the Chemistry set (Generations) are helpful: Liquid Horror, Stink Juice, Bladder Flow
  • If the Sims is Teen or up, you can Zap them with the Moodlet Manager until their motives are low and they have bad moodlets
  • You can have them clean the bees without smoking the hive first, but you may have to do it over and over before it works. Flask of Angry Bees is much faster and can be purchased at the Elixir Consignment Shop or made by a relatively low-level alchemist.
  • Babies almost always have less than Elated by themselves unless you work hard to make it otherwise. Toddlers are harder because none of the above work on them (the same goes for pets) so try to plan your save for when they're already in a bad mood--hungry, tired, or have just wet themselves. Or all of the above.
  • I usually lock them all in one room while this is going on, otherwise they run off and fulfil their needs and I have to start over again. Watch parents to be sure they don't change the toddlers! In fact, it may be helpful to lock the toddlers in a different room.
  • Try to avoid doing this right before work or school. Try for evening instead, when they have the whole night to get their moods back up.

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Re: Completing an Immortal Dynasty Hints and Tips (Not Questions)
« Reply #569 on: June 02, 2013, 08:19:29 AM »
also, have one super-messy room that everyone can stand in when you save, maybe "weird science" a negative moodlet onto something, use the moodlet manager to zap everyone... but it's only a few weeks until the next patch...fingers crossed...
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Re: Completing an Immortal Dynasty Hints and Tips (Not Questions)
« Reply #570 on: June 15, 2013, 11:19:02 PM »
You also get far fewer opportunities if you skill up and max before Young Adult or in a travel location (this includes University).   This also goes for Multi Tab and Brain Enhancing use. 

Wish I had known this before. I'm trying to get some fishing related opportunities for my second gen immortal, but most of them involve going to China, and I don't want to risk any bugs/glitches (which I have a notorious history with for WA).

Does anyone have any tips on how to promote more opportunities? He's got a few gardening ones, but I don't want to do that since I was planning for the fourth immortal to supermax that skill.

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Re: Completing an Immortal Dynasty Hints and Tips (Not Questions)
« Reply #571 on: June 15, 2013, 11:34:01 PM »
I would say to keep actively using that skill, but then I remembered that my inventor from my last dynasty attempt maxed inventing as a child, still invented like heck throughout her young adult life, and never got a single inventing op anyways.

Is your sim in a rabbithole career in a non-combined rabbithole building? Or do you have Ambitions and no plans for a Private Investigator immortal? The latter is awesome when ops really aren't coming in, and the former is a pretty standard (if not as reliable) backup.

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Re: Completing an Immortal Dynasty Hints and Tips (Not Questions)
« Reply #572 on: June 15, 2013, 11:42:35 PM »
I would say to keep actively using that skill, but then I remembered that my inventor from my last dynasty attempt maxed inventing as a child, still invented like heck throughout her young adult life, and never got a single inventing op anyways.

Is your sim in a rabbithole career in a non-combined rabbithole building? Or do you have Ambitions and no plans for a Private Investigator immortal? The latter is awesome when ops really aren't coming in, and the former is a pretty standard (if not as reliable) backup.

I made my sim in the fishing career, as I figured I wouldn't have enough time to balance a rabbit-hole career plus the fishing challenge requirements. Urgh.

I may just have to work on other skills that I don't/can't use as supermax skills and just hope for the best. Will knowing more people help trigger more opportunities? Probably not...but, I figured I should ask.

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Re: Completing an Immortal Dynasty Hints and Tips (Not Questions)
« Reply #573 on: June 15, 2013, 11:45:47 PM »
You could race to have him reach the top of the fishing career promptly, then put him in a rabbithole career to get his ops (you don't need to worry about leveling up in the rabbithole career, just ops). That's what I do with my immortals, anyways.

I don't know if knowing more people affects it, but it's worth a shot. Using unreserved skills for backup ops is great too.

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« Reply #574 on: June 15, 2013, 11:58:29 PM »
You could race to have him reach the top of the fishing career promptly, then put him in a rabbithole career to get his ops (you don't need to worry about leveling up in the rabbithole career, just ops). That's what I do with my immortals, anyways.

I don't know if knowing more people affects it, but it's worth a shot. Using unreserved skills for backup ops is great too.

Problem is that fishing career requires a HUGE amount of money in order to get to the top (which I think the only way to really get there is by selling a lot of deathfish, which are limited as far as when you can get them), so idk if I'd have enough time by then. I'll definitely keep it in mind, though. For now, I'm just gonna focus on other skills and just hope for the best.