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Re: Completing an Immortal Dynasty Hints and Tips
« Reply #50 on: September 07, 2012, 07:47:52 PM »
I am currently starting my immortal dynasty and find that the first thing you should do is find a spouse. If you do this the money he/she brings in greatly helps you start with your skills and he/she is able to start on photography/sculpting/painting pretty much the first day.

Actually - it doesn't have to be a spouse you bring in just as long as you bring someone in.  I brought in an entire family once for this purpose and then chose a spouse later. 
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Re: Completing an Immortal Dynasty Hints and Tips
« Reply #51 on: September 07, 2012, 08:32:12 PM »
I recommend that if you plan on bringing in Aggie, that your LTW be "Living in the Lap of Luxury" = Instant Fulfillment= Genie to make whomever you really want to be your spouse love you instantly.
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Re: Completing an Immortal Dynasty Hints and Tips
« Reply #52 on: September 08, 2012, 07:10:26 AM »
Regarding the genie lamp...if you wind up just blowing LTHP because you ran out of things to buy, the money thing can get really really out of hand.

Between professions, bringing in spouses, and those darn things, my family is currently sitting at over nine million simoleans. The only source of income at the moment are the money trees (which only bring a measly 40k for 100 bags), property/buildings, and generation 8's profession. And some of generation 7's, if I need to clear space.

I feel compelled to spend that money, and I...just...can't.

Also, if you need something to do later on in the generations, you can start working on collections. The bug collection is missing one bug from China, but I'm not risking 20 minute loading times just to go get it. Mounted fish collection is complete. Gem collection is in progress. Gnome collection is missing Troglodyte (but I got 2 Blingaboos). Metal collection is missing two, again I don't want to travel just to get them. Spirit collection is missing one, but I'm just lazy like that.

You'll hit ruts. This is inevitable. Just keep plugging away. It'll pass.

Oh, and final one. Don't be me and ramble late at night after a marathon session. :)

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Re: Completing an Immortal Dynasty Hints and Tips
« Reply #53 on: September 08, 2012, 07:42:52 AM »
A dog hunting can collect gems from WA locations, and they turn up at the consignment store. So you might still get those last few gems and metals. :)

Speaking of which - gems and metals from the consignment store or dug up by a dog can provide a nice supplementary income at the outset. Any gem might turn up - I've never seen Tiberium, but I've gotten Soulpeace from a dog hunting. And the gem cutting machine from Supernatural makes gem-cutting free. So yes, go for that heart-shaped blue topaz!
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Re: Completing an Immortal Dynasty Hints and Tips
« Reply #54 on: September 08, 2012, 11:19:11 AM »
One of the hardest parts of an immortal dynasty is surviving the boring repatititve skilling up parts. There is only so many hoursthat you can spend watching someobody running on a treadmill before you start to go slightly insane. Filling up a skill free childhood can be a chore too.
You can go from periods where nothing happens and you are praying for a birthday or a death to happen so that you can actually do something. It may seem strange but while the majority of people are really upset by the death of the founders spouse by the time it gets around to generation five you will probably be heaving a sigh of relief when a mortal finally givesup the ghost and passes on. This is where timing and planning comes in you have to think about when to bring in the next generation. I usually try and have a much older spouse especially for later generations love is all very good but generally a spouse is just for breeding purposes towards the end.

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Re: Completing an Immortal Dynasty Hints and Tips
« Reply #55 on: September 08, 2012, 12:29:10 PM »
Not that I have ever succeeded in finishing an Immortal Dynasty  ::) but I totally agree. In my most successful attempt (that actually failed because of the blue screen of death, not because of me failing it) I married my founder to Bennie Dean in Riverview, you know, that elder in the Grandpas Household. He comes with a nice level 6 in cooking and a couple of levels in gardening and fishing so you can just make him find some special seeds and plant them and catch a good couple of death fish before he dies and then gen 1 or 2 can take up gardening for him. You can just make the death fish breed or store a good amount of them and you don't have to worry too much about ambrosia then. The only problem then are the portraits. I solved it somehow, but I don't remember if I moved someone else in with the painting skill or if I just enslaved poor Bennie Dean until someone else took up painting later.

It's actually not necessary to make the founder marry an elder since there's plenty of time for the first spouse to die before the household is full, but I tend to get a little stressed when I have too many sims in the household so I basically want them to die quickly so I can have a little more peace, even if that means that the immortals will have to work a bit more.

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Re: Completing an Immortal Dynasty Hints and Tips
« Reply #56 on: September 08, 2012, 07:41:31 PM »
I'm still pretty early in my current dynasty (which will hopefully remain such assuming I did everything right when I reinstalled my game - I just got Pets and my copy of Supernatural arrives next week so it'll be awhile before I plug the saves back into the folder), but one thing I plan on doing with all of my immortals is keeping them employed in rabbit-holes, whether that means keeping their jobs or them taking up a part-time job. No retirement for these folks, unless it's from self-employment, and if that's the case it's hello bookstore/grocery/spa/etc. I get antsy handling more than 4 sims at a time, so this is one way I plan to keep them out of my hair as the family gets bigger.   



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Re: Completing an Immortal Dynasty Hints and Tips
« Reply #57 on: September 08, 2012, 08:55:58 PM »
One thing I don't know if it was mentioned, if you plan on using a time machine extensively, travelling to the past gives the chance to have your rabbit-hole employment changed. However, if you are self-employed, it appears to not do so (or the chances are really really small).

Also, I personally don't recommend making cooking a Supermax, but I just get annoyed when my hungry sims go off and try to cook on their own. Then complain they can't. Then try it again.

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Re: Completing an Immortal Dynasty Hints and Tips
« Reply #58 on: September 09, 2012, 02:51:10 AM »
Isn't that what hiding the stoves is for? xD

I haven't started one yet but I was wondering something. Does the treadmill count as jogging or do you have to make your sim jog around the lot fifty billion times?

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Re: Completing an Immortal Dynasty Hints and Tips
« Reply #59 on: September 09, 2012, 03:32:23 AM »
I can't hide the stove. I start panicking, thinking I sold it. And fencing off the area (which is what I wound up doing) doesn't work. I'm mildly neurotic that way. (But, I can deal with it, this Dynasty is almost complete, and my next one won't have cooking as a Supermax.)

Treadmill does count as jogging. In order to complete the Athletic skill challenge, my Immortal spent 21 days in China with a treadmill and a weight machine, and a moodlet manager (and I just ran the game on speed level 3, as it wasn't that exciting).

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Re: Completing an Immortal Dynasty Hints and Tips
« Reply #60 on: September 09, 2012, 07:22:01 AM »
I can't hide the stove. I start panicking, thinking I sold it. And fencing off the area (which is what I wound up doing) doesn't work. I'm mildly neurotic that way. (But, I can deal with it, this Dynasty is almost complete, and my next one won't have cooking as a Supermax.)

Treadmill does count as jogging. In order to complete the Athletic skill challenge, my Immortal spent 21 days in China with a treadmill and a weight machine, and a moodlet manager (and I just ran the game on speed level 3, as it wasn't that exciting).

You could also do what someone suggested in a Dynasty that I read, make a little room and lock it so only your cooking sim can enter.

That's good, I was so not looking forward to having my sim run around outside, having to make them jog everywhere manually.

Why didn't you take another immortal and have them search for treasure while the other maxed the athletics?

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Re: Completing an Immortal Dynasty Hints and Tips
« Reply #61 on: September 09, 2012, 03:43:23 PM »
This is a great thread, it has loads of helpful tips and I'm very grateful to everybody has contributed so far. Although I do not have my first  immortal (although I'm well on the way), my tip is to plan, plan and then plan some more. Before I started my dynasty, I spent ages planning out everything - from the gen one spouse to careers and traits. Figuring out when the non-mortals are likely to die when has helped me to plan who is going to paint which portrait, plant what plant, etc...

The second piece of advice I have is to keep clear records of everything from traits to skills to shared versus unique LTRs. It is so easy to make a silly mistake and fail the dynasty. I nearly forgot to get gen twos toddler portrait, and only remembered on the day before her birthday ::)

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Re: Completing an Immortal Dynasty Hints and Tips
« Reply #62 on: September 10, 2012, 06:17:01 AM »
Back everything up!
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Re: Completing an Immortal Dynasty Hints and Tips
« Reply #63 on: September 10, 2012, 07:10:12 AM »
Definitely! I've gotten into the habit of saving every game day, as much as possible. In a game this long and intense, you absolutely will have some insurmountable bugs creep up... plus, I think frequent "save as" reduces the chance of getting Error 12 when you save.
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Re: Completing an Immortal Dynasty Hints and Tips
« Reply #64 on: September 10, 2012, 07:11:55 AM »
Don't leave any uneaten plates of ambrosia lying around.A ghost or a mortal could potentially eat it and ruin everything. Also remember to hit the pause button if you have to leave the computer at any point. When playing my first dynasty I had to jump up and deal with a diapper accident(my sons not my own  ;D) I forgot to press pause and a mortal ate ambrosia. Luckily for me Metro understood my plight and let me go back to an earlier save.

I always use save as as opposed to just save. My game tends to freeze during makeovers so I always save before a makeover just incase.This is also one of the reasons why I don't always give mortals makeovers unless I reallyhave to.

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Re: Completing an Immortal Dynasty Hints and Tips
« Reply #65 on: September 10, 2012, 07:14:11 AM »
One thing I would recommend, (though this may have already been said) is to have the first heir born later in the game. That way, you can get skills and collecting done without having to worry about stinky diapers. Since you don't need to have an heir to eat ambrosia, you can wait a while to breed. In my Dynasty, my 2nd Generation was born only after the spouse had made un-melting ice sculptures, so that I could sculpt everybody in the Dynasty.

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Re: Completing an Immortal Dynasty Hints and Tips
« Reply #66 on: September 10, 2012, 09:06:06 AM »
I wouldn't panic about immortals accidentally maxing Cooking from occasionally cooking a meal instead of eating leftovers - I just finished supermaxing the skill for my current heir, mostly through cooking meals rather than studying the skill books. I think he hit level 10 in the skill somewhere around 60 meals, and I'd be astonished if any sim autonomously cooked that much. Charisma, though - if you leave it as a supermax (which I really, really wouldn't recommend), nobody else can ever get so much as a single point in it, because every social interaction they ever do, down to snuggling the nooboos, will increase the skill.

If you plan to have Handiness as a supermax, do it early, so that Handy Sim is there to make repairs and upgrade stuff...

One more thought: At the beginning of the game, check the consignment store frequently. Buying uncut gems worth more than about 40 simoleons and unsmelted metals worth more than about 60 simoleons will bring in some cash, and cameras will turn up from time to time. Even a photograph taken by someone with no skill using the cheapest camera can be hung on the wall for your founder's YA photo, and then you've got the whole game to let it appreciate.
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Re: Completing an Immortal Dynasty Hints and Tips
« Reply #67 on: September 12, 2012, 08:32:26 AM »
@Cathyknits, I used the tip last night about checking the consignment store to great effect.  I bought and then resold a load of books and gems and made a tidy profit.  I guess it's the Sims version of selling all your old rubbish on Ebay!
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Re: Completing an Immortal Dynasty Hints and Tips
« Reply #68 on: September 12, 2012, 03:43:08 PM »
Don't have triplets. :P

Anyway, there's a lot of good advice in this thread that will come in handy, I'm very appreciative. (Is there a thread like this for the Townie DecaDynasty Challenge?) Part-time professions are great if you need cash but also need a Sim to focus on sculpting or painting. You can sell the products of their creativity and get a consistent income!

With the new "Ask to Forsake Powers" interaction, vampires aren't so much of an issue either. :)
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Re: Completing an Immortal Dynasty Hints and Tips
« Reply #69 on: September 12, 2012, 06:26:50 PM »
Don't have triplets. :P

Anyway, there's a lot of good advice in this thread that will come in handy, I'm very appreciative. (Is there a thread like this for the Townie DecaDynasty Challenge?) Part-time professions are great if you need cash but also need a Sim to focus on sculpting or painting. You can sell the products of their creativity and get a consistent income!

With the new "Ask to Forsake Powers" interaction, vampires aren't so much of an issue either. :)

This is only true if you can get a vampire to actually do it without being under your control.   So far I've only been able to get it done while they were controlled by me.  All the others took offense and there was a break up.
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« Reply #70 on: September 12, 2012, 07:37:55 PM »
This is only true if you can get a vampire to actually do it without being under your control.   So far I've only been able to get it done while they were controlled by me.  All the others took offense and there was a break up.

Can't you toss a cure elixer at them to cure them of their supernaturalness?

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Re: Completing an Immortal Dynasty Hints and Tips
« Reply #71 on: September 12, 2012, 08:00:59 PM »
Can't you toss a cure elixer at them to cure them of their supernaturalness?

This is true because we didn't ban life state changing elixirs in the immortal dynasty.
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Re: Completing an Immortal Dynasty Hints and Tips
« Reply #72 on: September 12, 2012, 08:06:20 PM »
Part-time professions are great if you need cash but also need a Sim to focus on sculpting or painting. You can sell the products of their creativity and get a consistent income!

I wouldn't recommend a part-time job.  The money earned is very minimal and there's really no point to it.  It doesn't count as a career for the heir's requirements.  If you want to make money selling things your Sim makes, go ahead and just put her in that self-employed career. 
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« Reply #73 on: September 13, 2012, 12:56:58 AM »
This is true because we didn't ban life state changing elixirs in the immortal dynasty.

Exactly, and you don't have the hassle of trying to get them to give up their supernatural life state.

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Re: Completing an Immortal Dynasty Hints and Tips
« Reply #74 on: September 13, 2012, 07:09:21 AM »
I wouldn't recommend a part-time job.  The money earned is very minimal and there's really no point to it.  It doesn't count as a career for the heir's requirements.  If you want to make money selling things your Sim makes, go ahead and just put her in that self-employed career. 

I completely agree. Why work in a part time job if you can earn more money and gain skills in a self employment career. Also, if you don't like controlling multiple sims at once, you can get them spending heaps of time painting, fishing etc. and not have to worry about them.

 

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