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Re: Bees and honey
« Reply #25 on: September 23, 2012, 10:14:46 PM »
Despite the above info that I found in the game code, my bees seem to be producing worse and worse honey, despite cleaning and feeding at least twice a day. I'm wondering if there is some sort of glitch with the hives. Has anyone else noticed this? I'll be resetting the hive to see if it works or selling and replacing it.

I did notice that too, to the point that honey went from Perfect to Horrifying and Putrid.

Since I had enough honey and wax, I just sold the hives.

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« Reply #26 on: September 23, 2012, 10:31:04 PM »
My bees are making horrid honey :( I mean I have had all levels of bad.



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Re: Bees and honey
« Reply #27 on: September 24, 2012, 03:19:49 AM »
If someone isnt against cheating. Go into edit neighborhood and place a wished sized lot next to your own, change it to community lot and place hives there  ::) Sorry if it doesnt fit into here, but in my opinion it sort of does since that hives never give bad ones on public lots  ;D

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« Reply #28 on: September 24, 2012, 03:33:21 AM »
Despite the above info that I found in the game code, my bees seem to be producing worse and worse honey, despite cleaning and feeding at least twice a day. I'm wondering if there is some sort of glitch with the hives. Has anyone else noticed this? I'll be resetting the hive to see if it works or selling and replacing it.

I stuck with Smoke Hive, Harvest Honey, Clean Hive, Feed Bees once a day on each hive and it improved each day until I was getting at least one Perfect honey from each. If I leave it for longer it starts slipping, but at once a day I've had no problems.
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Re: Bees and honey
« Reply #29 on: September 24, 2012, 06:49:07 AM »
I find that smoking, cleaning, feeding and then harvesting works best for me. In 10 days my sim only got stung once, and they got perfect honey. Also, honey is really good for money. My sim family lives of it with only 3 hives.

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« Reply #30 on: September 24, 2012, 07:17:44 AM »
After buying a new hive, restarting the game and clearing caches, my hive started working as normal again. I had got it up to perfect before it started diving - so just a glitch I guess, but it wasn't just the one hive. I don't know where it stems from, but it's fixed for now. I'm up to the same amount of time again (about 2 weeks) so we'll see. I also like smoke, harvest, clean, feed. I think so long as you clean and feed them every 12 hours they'll continue to produce perfect honey.

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« Reply #31 on: September 24, 2012, 08:40:17 AM »
I had the same thing happen, but it happened almost immediately. I'll try clearing caches. In the meantime smoke -> (clean, feed) repeated for 3.5 hours -> harvest honey has gotten it from Horrifying and Putrid back up to Bad - that worked out to about 6 clean/feed cycles a day.
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Re: Bees and honey
« Reply #32 on: September 24, 2012, 01:48:59 PM »
I've never yet had bad honey. I smoke, harvest, smoke, clean, smoke feed. I have "great" honey.Only stung once.

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« Reply #33 on: September 24, 2012, 10:58:01 PM »
I find that smoking, cleaning, feeding and then harvesting works best for me. In 10 days my sim only got stung once, and they got perfect honey. Also, honey is really good for money. My sim family lives of it with only 3 hives.

Not that I have any perfect honey, but I'm curious how much your sims are making from the honey?

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« Reply #34 on: September 25, 2012, 02:49:58 AM »
Not that I have any perfect honey, but I'm curious how much your sims are making from the honey?

For nice honey, on the second day I was getting 10 bottles of honey each selling for around 34 simoleans. Then I got 6 Beeswax and they sold for around 50 simoleans and everyday the price goes up so after 4 days you get around 600 a day or more. At least thats what my games giving me. Peoples games seem to be quite different with all these glitches.

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« Reply #35 on: October 18, 2012, 08:28:32 PM »
In the lessons it says that smoking may keep the bees from stinging but it also makes them eat less(I think that is what it said) and therefore the honey won't be as good. I don't care if my sims
get stung, I never smoke the hive, and I get perfect honey as long as I feed and clean every day.

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« Reply #36 on: October 19, 2012, 10:25:45 AM »
Welcome to the forum, CountessCrazy! 

I haven't done a lot with beekeeping, and every time I have a Sim harvest honey, I always go through the whole routine of smoking, feeding and cleaning.  I don't know if it helps or not - sometimes my Sims get stung anyway.  I'd rather not let them get stung, as I don't like the negative moodlet, but so far I haven't found a surefire way to prevent it.
 
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« Reply #37 on: October 19, 2012, 11:41:43 AM »
Like someone said, if you neglect the hives and then try and harvest or clean, your sim will get stung.  It does take some patience to finally get it right.  I know my honey was foul most of the time.  When I started, I used, smoke, feed, clean.  In a few hours it had harvest, then I would harvest.  She would get stung, but I sent her back and she finished.  I kept up with that routine for two days and finally got nice honey.  I am with the rest of them though, I finally started to just buy it from the store, because if she neglected the hives for just one day, the honey would be bad. :)
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Re: Bees and honey
« Reply #38 on: October 22, 2012, 03:56:32 PM »
Despite the above info that I found in the game code, my bees seem to be producing worse and worse honey, despite cleaning and feeding at least twice a day. I'm wondering if there is some sort of glitch with the hives. Has anyone else noticed this? I'll be resetting the hive to see if it works or selling and replacing it.

I got the feeling something else might have an influence as well. Max Skills was very able to crack that quality up in no-tine at all.
Maybe some other skills are influencing this? I assume Alchemy in the first place. But maybe gardening or even cooking will play a role as well.

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« Reply #39 on: October 22, 2012, 04:31:31 PM »
My beekeeper has supermaxed Gardening, and gets really lousy honey. He does only have Alchemy at 2. Hrm.
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« Reply #40 on: October 23, 2012, 03:25:56 AM »
Ok, I think I found what the problem is. Despite smoking making the bees less likely to sting you, it makes them 15% less happy. I suspect that the glitch we're encountering is caused by that value possibly stacking. Either that or the cumulative 15% every 12 hours makes them less happy than being cleaned and fed. Therefore, I'd suggest not smoking the bees at all, but just cleaning and feeding them, if you want perfect honey and beeswax (and don't mind getting stung every now and then).

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« Reply #41 on: October 23, 2012, 05:03:14 AM »
Ok, I think I found what the problem is. Despite smoking making the bees less likely to sting you, it makes them 15% less happy. I suspect that the glitch we're encountering is caused by that value possibly stacking. Either that or the cumulative 15% every 12 hours makes them less happy than being cleaned and fed. Therefore, I'd suggest not smoking the bees at all, but just cleaning and feeding them, if you want perfect honey and beeswax (and don't mind getting stung every now and then).

Really? Because my sims smoke the bees constantly before doing the other things. And still the quality is perfect.

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« Reply #42 on: October 23, 2012, 04:49:27 PM »
Really? Because my sims smoke the bees constantly before doing the other things. And still the quality is perfect.

I agree, smoke them 2 or 3 times befoer trying anything and they don't sting and the honey is good.

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« Reply #43 on: October 23, 2012, 04:50:42 PM »
I agree, smoke them 2 or 3 times befoer trying anything and they don't sting and the honey is good.

Two or three times?  I've only ever done it once; maybe that's why my Sims often get stung.  I'll have to try doing it more than once.
 
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Re: Bees and honey
« Reply #44 on: November 02, 2012, 10:18:58 PM »
I noticed that the hives in the Arboretum are next to a fire fruit plant. Maybe, like in real life, quality of the honey has to do with the quality of the plants the bees have been pollinating. I'm going to move my hive next to my garden and see if that helps.

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« Reply #45 on: November 10, 2012, 08:58:38 PM »
Beeswax counts as a harvestable for the "Uncommonly Good" opportunity. I discovered this with a sim who nearly maxed out gardening with tabcasts and never touched a plant.

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« Reply #46 on: November 17, 2013, 11:53:23 PM »
Bees have a random chance of stinging no matter how happy they are or regardless of whether you smoke them.  Happy/clean bees will have a much lower chance of stinging.  Smoking the hive will reduce the chance of stinging even more.

Each bee hive has three happiness levels, Angry, Content, and Happy. The game keeps a hidden score of their mood in a range between 1 and 100. Anything below 30, and they're Angry. Between that and 65, they're Content. Above 65, and they're Happy. When you first buy and place the hive, the score starts at 50. Bees are made happy by cleaning the hive and feeding them. When the hive is both fed AND clean, it adds to the happiness score by 1.5 points per hour. If the hive is dirty, you lose 1.5 per hour, and the same 1.5 with being hungry, so that you'll lose 3 happiness per hour if bees are both hungry and dirty. Hunger and cleanliness both have their own 1-100 values. Hunger decays at 4 per hour, and cleanliness decays at 2 per hour.

The hive produces honey, which can eaten directly or be used in cooking and is an alchemy ingredient. The quality of the honey produced is based on the bees' happiness score:

    12.5 - Foul
    25 - Bad
    37.5 - Normal
    50 - Nice
    62.5 - Very Nice
    75 - Great
    82.5 - Excellent
    90 - Outstanding
    97 - Perfect

They produce one bottle of honey per 12 hours, and store up to 5 bottles' worth (or 2.5 days worth) at a time.

In short.  Feed and Clean your bees 2-3 times a day.  Collect honey once every couple of days, and like me you will never have your honey/beeswax quality drop below perfect/outstanding quality.  Just remember that the Hunger/cleanliness of the bees decays faster than it raises, so if you neglect them for even 1 day you will end up with foul/bad honey/beeswax again.

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« Reply #47 on: November 30, 2013, 08:04:26 PM »
I always do mine in the order smoke, harvest, feed, clean and as long as I do it at least once a day my honey goes up to and stays at perfect. I don't know if its a glitch or not but I am also able to harvest again as soon as I feed the bees. So as soon as I finish my order I  can immediately do it again and again until I feel like stopping! I can even cut out smoking and cleaning after the first time and just do harvest and then feed and the harvest again. I don't go longer than a few hours without smoking the box though. Hope this helps!

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« Reply #48 on: November 30, 2013, 08:06:20 PM »
I always get bad or horrible honey, I have a garden, I feed them and cleAn, and smoke! I don't know, it's a crazy life sometimes! ::) ::)

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« Reply #49 on: March 16, 2014, 10:06:14 PM »
Thanks for all the tips here. My Sims want to get a bee keeping box, and I have limited experience with the process.

One thing I did find when I tried it before was that if I had a butler (from Late Night), he would always be drawn to try to work with the bees, and end up getting swarmed and stung, but return and try again, in a continuous loop.

So if you have bees, don't get a butler. Or do, and let comedy ensue. :D
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