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Re: The Sims 3 Immortal Dynasty Challenge
« Reply #350 on: August 29, 2010, 09:31:23 PM »
Well, I actually just found a good mod that adjusts the height of the camera when painting/photographing, and it allowed me to get a good shot of my toddler playing on the floor, so I suppose all is well.  I'm still interested to hear if anyone has any suggestions for better toddler photos, though. :)

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« Reply #351 on: August 29, 2010, 09:47:32 PM »
@Kiwala:  I'll let Metro have the final say on this, but it's part of the rules that no cheats or modifications are allowed.
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Re: The Sims 3 Immortal Dynasty Challenge
« Reply #352 on: August 29, 2010, 09:57:42 PM »
Well, I actually just found a good mod that adjusts the height of the camera when painting/photographing, and it allowed me to get a good shot of my toddler playing on the floor, so I suppose all is well.

I'm sorry but you cannot use any modifications at all.

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« Reply #353 on: August 29, 2010, 10:24:56 PM »
/facepalm oh, I feel silly.  That's the only thing I've got, and I only used it on the one photo, so it should be all right if I just redo the photo, right?  Sorry about that.  It just edits some tiny little xml thing (instead of being story progression or awesomemod or anything like that) so I guess it just slipped my mind.

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« Reply #354 on: August 29, 2010, 10:29:19 PM »
/facepalm oh, I feel silly.  That's the only thing I've got, and I only used it on the one photo, so it should be all right if I just redo the photo, right?  Sorry about that.  It just edits some tiny little xml thing (instead of being story progression or awesomemod or anything like that) so I guess it just slipped my mind.

You can keep the photo you already took. It's not a big deal, just don't have the mod installed the next time you play your Dynasty file.

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« Reply #355 on: August 29, 2010, 10:31:22 PM »
All right, thanks bunches! :)  I feel foolish.

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« Reply #356 on: August 29, 2010, 11:51:21 PM »
My founder had no trouble choosing 3 LTRs that no other immortals already have, but I've been thinking more about the LTRs as I don't want to wind up with no more unique LTRS for the later generations.  Looking at the list in the Guide prompts another question:  can our Immortals get a simbot as an LTR?  There doesn't appear to be anything about this in the rules.  The rules do say "•No Sim may ever be moved out of the household by any means."  Now, if that applies to simbots as well, we'd be in trouble as we wouldn't have room in the house for the 8th generation (I assume a simbot counts as a member of the household).  But then, if anyone is going to do Inventing as their SuperMax skill, they'll need to make a simbot and either release it or keep it.  So can we get a simbot and release it, or are we going to have to not have them at all, which would mean Inventing can't be a SuperMax skill?
 
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Re: The Sims 3 Immortal Dynasty Challenge
« Reply #357 on: August 30, 2010, 12:45:46 AM »
Ooo, that's a good question, Schipperke.  I originally planned to have an Inventor as my last Immortal (I changed it for a reason other than the SimBot thing, but still), and that would have run me into an issue for sure!  I imagine you could still Supermax Inventing AND have a SimBot without having to move it out if you do it with an early Immortal, since SimBots can die...though their ages seem to vary a lot, at least in my game.  I had one SimBot die very early and I had another that had a full age bar for a very very long time and didn't...so I guess I don't know.  SimBots are just odd, I guess.

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« Reply #358 on: August 30, 2010, 01:45:34 AM »
I thought we had written that Simbots must be released into the wild, but I don't see it in the rules.  Maybe I'm thinking of another challenge I've played recently.  Personally, I don't think I would keep a Simbot because that's just one more spot taken in the Dynasty house and we don't know how long Simbots live.  Definitely don't keep it in the 7th generation because it would prevent the 8th generation from being born.
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Re: The Sims 3 Immortal Dynasty Challenge
« Reply #359 on: August 30, 2010, 08:35:04 AM »
I know we are to let non-immortals die naturally, and not expedite death, but if, say, a fire occurs and a non-immortal (accidentally) burns to death, is that okay, or would it be a rule violation since it's not an old age death?  What about other accidental non-immortal deaths (meteor, maybe)?

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« Reply #360 on: August 30, 2010, 09:53:40 AM »
Looking at the list in the Guide prompts another question:  can our Immortals get a simbot as an LTR?  There doesn't appear to be anything about this in the rules.  The rules do say "•No Sim may ever be moved out of the household by any means."  Now, if that applies to simbots as well, we'd be in trouble as we wouldn't have room in the house for the 8th generation (I assume a simbot counts as a member of the household).  But then, if anyone is going to do Inventing as their SuperMax skill, they'll need to make a simbot and either release it or keep it.  So can we get a simbot and release it, or are we going to have to not have them at all, which would mean Inventing can't be a SuperMax skill?

Excellent question. And Pam, I thought we had covered SimBots too, but oh well. One more edit!  :D I'll clarify this and post my change right here.

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EDIT: Here's the edit added concerning SimBots:

  • SimBots may be obtained from a LTR or an Inventor can make them. However they must immediately be released into the wild.

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Re: The Sims 3 Immortal Dynasty Challenge
« Reply #361 on: August 30, 2010, 12:50:43 PM »
I know we are to let non-immortals die naturally, and not expedite death, but if, say, a fire occurs and a non-immortal (accidentally) burns to death, is that okay, or would it be a rule violation since it's not an old age death?  What about other accidental non-immortal deaths (meteor, maybe)?

So I can't kill off my spouses(after giving birth etc) to collect the different types of ghosts?
And do I have to start over because I don't have a painted portrait of my founder as an adult?
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« Reply #362 on: August 30, 2010, 12:55:04 PM »
And do I have to start over because I don't have a painted portrait of my founder as an adult?

Yes you do since you need a portrait of him As Young adult, adult and elder

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« Reply #363 on: August 30, 2010, 01:01:56 PM »
*Sigh* Here we go again..
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Re: The Sims 3 Immortal Dynasty Challenge
« Reply #364 on: August 30, 2010, 01:04:44 PM »
So I can't kill off my spouses(after giving birth etc) to collect the different types of ghosts?
And do I have to start over because I don't have a painted portrait of my founder as an adult?

No, you can't kill off spouses, they must stick around until their natural time.

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« Reply #365 on: August 30, 2010, 01:13:27 PM »
I just wanted to let everyone know that I appreciate others stepping in and filling in for me in my absence with rules clarifications. It saves me a great deal of time not having to answer every single little thing that comes up. So, my standard operating procedure in this is if no one has answered a question yet, then obviously I will do so. If someone interprets a rule incorrectly I will step in and give the correct answer. But, if someone answers another a player with the correct information, then there's no need for me to simply reply, "Yeah, what she said is right." :) Everyone just needs to assume that I read every post carefully, and I will jump in and correct someone if need be. Otherwise, you don't need to wait on me. If I'm not responding to a question, that means a) someone already gave out the correct answer, or b) I'm asleep.  ;D

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« Reply #366 on: August 30, 2010, 02:26:26 PM »
I recently came across what could be a a bit of a problem. My founders spouse, about 5/6 of adult life, was busy trying out handiness and fixing a TV when she got shocked an instantly
died. I nearly had heart failure I was so upset as I'd just spent ages leveling up her fishing and gardening for ingredients to give my founder to cook with. Anyway, she was then visited by Grim and he laughed or something and said he felt too sorry for her with her luck to take here away, and so she survived. I later realized that it was because of her Unlucky trait and felt ecstatic because she now had a full adult life ahead of her yet again!
My question is, won't people abuse this feature to keep founders and heirs/spouses alive fr longer? There aren't any restrictions on traits and it isn't too difficult to get a Sim to die in this way with the technophobe trait (to break stuff) and then fixing or even inventing.
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« Reply #367 on: August 30, 2010, 03:04:48 PM »
I recently came across what could be a a bit of a problem. My founders spouse, about 5/6 of adult life, was busy trying out handiness and fixing a TV when she got shocked an instantly
died. I nearly had heart failure I was so upset as I'd just spent ages leveling up her fishing and gardening for ingredients to give my founder to cook with. Anyway, she was then visited by Grim and he laughed or something and said he felt too sorry for her with her luck to take here away, and so she survived. I later realized that it was because of her Unlucky trait and felt ecstatic because she now had a full adult life ahead of her yet again!
My question is, won't people abuse this feature to keep founders and heirs/spouses alive fr longer? There aren't any restrictions on traits and it isn't too difficult to get a Sim to die in this way with the technophobe trait (to break stuff) and then fixing or even inventing.

I can't imagine anyone wasting a trait slot for an immortal with Unlucky just in hopes of avoiding an "accident" because immortal's traits are locked and cannot be changed. As far as the spouse goes, Unlucky is still not going to prevent a death from old age, and that's how the vast majority of spouses will pass. And there is the specific rule that you cannot intentionally do anything to prolong the lives of spouses, so technically a player would be breaking the rules by choosing Unlucky for that specific purpose.

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« Reply #368 on: August 30, 2010, 03:08:09 PM »
The problem is, sorry I neglected to actually mention it lol except a small hint, that when they survive, their lifetimes are reset, that's why I said I was happy because she would live her adult life again.
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« Reply #369 on: August 30, 2010, 03:17:46 PM »
The problem is, sorry I neglected to actually mention it lol except a small hint, that when they survive, their lifetimes are reset, that's why I said I was happy because she would live her adult life again.

My position stands. If you're choosing a particular spouse because of the Unlucky trait knowing full well that he/she will reset their age upon an "accidental" death, you're breaking the rules and cannot continue. I do not need to specifically ban Unlucky because of the existing rule of not intentionally doing anything to prolong a spouse's life. If you have a clear conscious and were completely unaware of the connection between Unlucky and not dying from an accident, fine...you can continue.

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« Reply #370 on: August 30, 2010, 03:23:18 PM »
when they survive, their lifetimes are reset, that's why I said I was happy because she would live her adult life again.

I didn't know that!  In any case, as the household gets bigger and bigger, I suspect I'll be glad to see the non-Immortals move on to their appointment with the Reaper.
 
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« Reply #371 on: August 30, 2010, 04:03:57 PM »
Quoted from guide:

"Placing Paintings and Photographs May Help: While Sculptures your Sim creates can't be placed on your Venues' lots by any means I can tell. The reason for this is at the lot your Family Inventory is not visible, just the inventory of the lot you're on. Paintings and Photographs can be placed in your Sim's inventory, and they can place them on walls while not in Buy Mode. Simply visit the lot and hang them on the wall. The photo or painting's value will count toward the total you're trying to reach. Unfortunately, these do not appreciate in value once on a lot. They need to be in your inventory or home for that to work."

Won't that pose a small problem with the museum if you buy it?

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« Reply #372 on: August 30, 2010, 04:07:34 PM »
Won't that pose a small problem with the museum if you buy it?

Yeah, obviously if you're shooting for a "max value" strategy for your museum, then you clearly want the museum on your lot and not another lot that you have purchased elsewhere in the neighborhood.

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« Reply #373 on: August 30, 2010, 05:54:20 PM »
Okay, so accidental death for non-immortal spouse is all right then?  I was finally able to get my founder to immortal status last night, but I was worried it wouldn't count, as her husband had died from fire.  You see, Chizue (my founder) was frantically trying to get electronic objects to break to complete one of the handiness skill challenges (her supermax skill; and sadly I had no technophobe to break things for me), and so I performed an experiment on the tv (she had maxed the Science career), and it instantly burst into flames.  I started freaking out and frantically called the fire department...meanwhile the tv next to the tv (I was really trying to get stuff to break, lol) caught on fire too, and I was really worried it was going to get Chizue or Choukou (her daughter and second immortal to-be).  Luckily they both survived...but Chizue's elder spouse Billy (non-immortal) had become a pile of ashes without my noticing!  That's okay under the rules, right?  (Though I really was sad for poor Billy.)

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« Reply #374 on: August 30, 2010, 05:57:02 PM »
I would think that's ok for the rules, because you didn't stick him in the fire and watch him die...it was an accident.

 

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