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Do you cheat or not?

Yes, I always do it.
35 (11.4%)
Yes, I sometimes do it.
77 (25.2%)
It depends.
112 (36.6%)
No, I hardly ever do it.
59 (19.3%)
No, I NEVER cheat.
23 (7.5%)

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Re: Play Style: Cheats or no Cheats?
« Reply #225 on: March 26, 2012, 12:02:32 AM »
I have noticed I don't have to use the cheats as much. EA just keeps making it easier. With stuff like the motive mobile to raise your bars, The trees from Lunar Lakes with the fruit to raise skill levels. Put out a bunch of those and pig out on fruit. :D, The Genie to clean your house in one click.
Don't need cheats with items like that.  :P
It's not really cheating if it's in the game, right.  ;)

I don't like those rewards..to me they spoil gameplay.

But I plead the fifth: I DO CHEAT. I use testingcheatsebsbled true to quickly drag needs up, delete annoying, ugly default, SP generated sims/NPCs, and remove moodlets like the Disgraced one. I'm not a heavy cheater..like I was in previous sim games.


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Re: Play Style: Cheats or no Cheats?
« Reply #226 on: March 26, 2012, 08:42:52 PM »
@ Hosfac, yes I enjoyed it very much. I had been having a problem when after playing for 5-30 minutes of the game, I would get bored and quit. Without cheating, I can now play for more then 4 hours at one time and not even realize how much time has gone by until I look at the clock. It's like I just discovered the game!! ;D Yes I realize it sounds funny me saying I'm a cheater lol. Not in real life though.

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Thanks Louise, I noticed that! When I was just starting, I was putting fruit in the fridge and forgot to pause, and suddenly the camera moved. I looked up and he had the hungry moodlet and walked to the fridge to eat without me telling him too!!

@ Jeana, yeah he is very grumpy lol. You're not alone in cheating. I've only played one game the non-cheating way! So if you look at the hundreds of games I've cheated on, versus the one I haven't, I'm still a 99% cheater haha.

Hosfac is right. I never said I'd never cheat again. Plus if I play the Halliwell's anytime soon, I will definetely be cheating as there are too many of them right now. 6 sims and 4 animals, and I'm only used to handling 1 sim right now without cheats.

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I have used and abused the Motive Mobile hehe. I love that thing, but it also reminds me too much of needs static. I've also used buydebug to get him a chest and the hover bed, but it was only after he completed 2 of the skill challenges for gardening, kinda like the grim challenge Metro did 2 years ago.



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Re: Play Style: Cheats or no Cheats?
« Reply #227 on: March 26, 2012, 10:57:24 PM »
@ Hosfac, yes I enjoyed it very much. I had been having a problem when after playing for 5-30 minutes of the game, I would get bored and quit. Without cheating, I can now play for more then 4 hours at one time and not even realize how much time has gone by until I look at the clock. It's like I just discovered the game!! ;D

I bet.  You probably encountered so many things you never saw before that it almost would feel like a different game.  New challenges for you, enjoyment, and a renewed interest in the game...not seeing a down side here.  :P

I think it's awesome that you essentially found something new about the game that you liked.

Plus if I play the Halliwell's anytime soon, I will definetely be cheating as there are too many of them right now. 6 sims and 4 animals, and I'm only used to handling 1 sim right now without cheats.

Oh no...definitely start small and work your way up lol!  That many Sims, not even including the animals, is a serious balancing act and if you've been playing with static needs it would more than likely be a bit overwhelming.  Maybe try a couple in simple careers (like sports or business, careers that don't have a lot of skill metrics) next time and have a single nooboo, and try to raise it so you get to pick all of it's traits.  It's not all that difficult to accomplish, but would get you some experience with multiple Sims.

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Re: Play Style: Cheats or no Cheats?
« Reply #228 on: March 26, 2012, 11:57:40 PM »
I bet.  You probably encountered so many things you never saw before that it almost would feel like a different game.  New challenges for you, enjoyment, and a renewed interest in the game...not seeing a down side here.  :P

I think it's awesome that you essentially found something new about the game that you liked.
I did!! I was constantly thinking, "I've never seen that before!" and my favorite "Whoa! When did they add that?!" It's awesome!! There is no downside at all!! Well, other than me not updating and playing my Dynasty. Whoops. Thank you, I do too!

Oh no...definitely start small and work your way up lol! 
I plan on it! Right now it's just Adolfo, and he's working on finding the young again potion so he can get married to Agnes and focus on her LTW before thinking about starting a family.

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Re: Play Style: Cheats or no Cheats?
« Reply #229 on: March 27, 2012, 11:30:08 AM »
Glad to hear you gave it a try Esther!  I for my part am giving the other side of the fence a try with static needs in the Clones challenge.  Interesting, but I don't think I could use that all the time.  Perhaps just leaving testing cheats enabled and occasionally bumping a meter into the green if I'm struggling.
I'd certainly recommend sticking to families of 4 or less sims if you are going to be playing without cheats for a bit.  It can get very hectic quickly trying to manage the needs of too many sims at once and if you are used to playing with cheats on it might put you off quickly.

The thing I love about Sims is that its a sandbox game that you could do whatever you liked with.  If you want to just mess about with cheats on to take the frustration out of the game, that's fine.  If you want to set yourself difficult challenges to get a sense of achievement, that's fine too.  I even know some people that play The Sims by creating sim versions of themselves and the people they dislike just to be able to go be mean to them because they can't in real life.  Its all good, as long as you are having fun!

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Re: Play Style: Cheats or no Cheats?
« Reply #230 on: March 27, 2012, 11:37:47 AM »
I have a bit of a love/hate relationship with cheats. I love the idea because it frustrates me whenever I'm trying to do something and my sims needs go red. But if I drag a needs bar up, I feel like I've cheated (probably because I have, haha). So if I'm playing a game, I basically only use resetsim and moveobjects on.

But I do use them all the time when testing things for my dynasty or when I want to find out how something works. And sometimes it's very difficult to resist the temptation to Edit in CAS the paparazzi who stands outside my DecaDynasty house wearing swimming trunks and a cowboy hat all day.

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Re: Play Style: Cheats or no Cheats?
« Reply #231 on: March 27, 2012, 02:18:01 PM »
I never use money or mood cheats, but I do use moveobjects, resetsim when necessary, and I change my sims' traits around quite often. I also use the ctrl+click to get rid of negative moodlets sometimes - again, not the ones related to specific motives, but things like hearbroken or the (incredibly annoying!) 'falsely accused' one. (When that happens, I do also drag back up the relationships that have been damaged by it).
But basically, nothing major - I've tried it a couple of times but I get bored quickly, and looking after a sim's mood is nowhere near as hard as it was in the sims 1 or 2.



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Re: Play Style: Cheats or no Cheats?
« Reply #232 on: March 27, 2012, 03:47:36 PM »
I started my Immortal Dynasty and I think I've recieved a pleasant surprise in realising that not cheating really isn't that hard! :D

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Re: Play Style: Cheats or no Cheats?
« Reply #233 on: March 27, 2012, 09:43:09 PM »
Thanks Wench! Me too! I know Fez!! At first it was hard and extremely frustrating as I was used to being able to max skills quickly. He didn't start out well, but thanks to Rica's encouraging PM's I decided I'd go until he died, which he never did!! Now he has alot of LTR's that help, so if I can do it, anyone can!  ;D

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Re: Play Style: Cheats or no Cheats?
« Reply #234 on: March 28, 2012, 12:00:25 AM »
Well I put it depends because there are times that I use "motherlode" and all those great cheats, but there are also times that all I use is resetSim, just if there is an emergency, and sometimes testingCheatsenabled. I prefer using no cheats because it's more of a challenge.

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Re: Play Style: Cheats or no Cheats?
« Reply #235 on: March 28, 2012, 01:20:15 AM »
I chose hardly ever. The only cheats I ever use are resetSim and in my most recent game I've had to use the shift-click into household one, ONLY because for some reason my sims can't propose to anyone. The relationship bar is FULL and there's never a propose option. It seems to be only on NPC's, like the babysitter.
I like the challenge of not cheating. Anyway, I was wondering what this "needs static" thing is that everyone keeps saying? Is that a mod? or is it a general term I've never heard of? I've been playing Sims since day one, so I'd be surprised if it were a term...

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Re: Play Style: Cheats or no Cheats?
« Reply #236 on: March 28, 2012, 01:52:22 AM »
Anyway, I was wondering what this "needs static" thing is that everyone keeps saying?

It's a testing cheat that keeps the needs of all Sims in the household at full.  You access it by entering "testingcheatsenabled true" into the command line and then shift+clicking on the mailbox.

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Re: Play Style: Cheats or no Cheats?
« Reply #237 on: March 28, 2012, 02:46:26 AM »
Tuesday - there is actually a workaround that doesn't require Buydebug to get omni cheats.  I think you can find it under the Skills forum.   You basically send your Sim to order omni seeds, cancel the action before they get to the mailbox.  They perform the action like they are at the mailbox and you get seeds the next day

This right here is why I should have joined the forum sooner.

I'm considering running an immortal dynasty (The Carringtons - a Dynasty Dynasty - partly because it's really easy to make an elder male Sim with a strong resemblance to John Forsythe and all you'd really have to do to keep it pretty much on track is have 'em leave their first wife and get remarried to Vita Alto.  I know, it's a stupid joke that hardly anybody around here will get but I'm the only person who has to think it's funny.) and that will involve even less "cheats" than I normally use.

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Re: Play Style: Cheats or no Cheats?
« Reply #238 on: March 28, 2012, 09:24:37 AM »
Oh i see!!! Not something I would ever use! :)

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Re: Play Style: Cheats or no Cheats?
« Reply #239 on: March 28, 2012, 10:51:05 AM »
I chose hardly ever. The only cheats I ever use are resetSim and in my most recent game I've had to use the shift-click into household one, ONLY because for some reason my sims can't propose to anyone. The relationship bar is FULL and there's never a propose option. It seems to be only on NPC's, like the babysitter.

Aren't babysitter's teenagers anyway?  You shouldn't be able to propose to them without using a mod of some sort. 

I get what you mean though.  I'm still not used to playing a game where you find you need to know all of the cheats just to fix things as they break!  If it wasn't so much fun I wouldn't bother  ;)

@Tuesday - The Carringtons made me smile too.  Might need to find some CC with huge huge shoulderpads!

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Re: Play Style: Cheats or no Cheats?
« Reply #240 on: March 28, 2012, 11:30:59 AM »
Obviously you can't propose to teens. What I mean is, a babysitter is considered an NPC, some people like to "collect" them, as in bring them into their family, after they become adults.
So far, there have been two Babysitters in my neighborhood that I haven't been able to propose to. My sim becomes their girlfriend, their relationship bar is completely full, ALL romantic options are
available EXCEPT "Propose marriage". It's becoming a pain, this was a downloaded neighborhood built specifically with legacies in mind but I'm wondering in there's an NPC bug of some sort.
Anyway that's off topic sorry! Because of the bug, I cheated in order to bring the NPC into the household, however they still can't get married.

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Re: Play Style: Cheats or no Cheats?
« Reply #241 on: April 01, 2012, 03:27:01 AM »
I've decided from now on that I'm only cheating in overstuffed households. I went back and played some of my antiquated save files today. My self-sims don't load properly without cheats now and I'm really scared that file is bugged, but I played an old file with testingcheats off and I had so much fun juggling it.

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Re: Play Style: Cheats or no Cheats?
« Reply #242 on: April 01, 2012, 09:22:44 AM »
Well. I cheat or have cheated a lot. But i chalk it up to not being experienced enough yet. For the family in on right now I did use motherlode with them but the husband still works. This will mark the last time I use that cheat on a family I want to build up and live with. I'm weening off make all happy, but with 8 sims in one house it's very hard. Those are really the only ones I use but I'd like to learn more about the building cheats.

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Re: Play Style: Cheats or no Cheats?
« Reply #243 on: April 01, 2012, 10:22:12 PM »
The first two sims I created I didn't know about any of the cheats.  Then, when I learned of the motherlode, I have been using that for most of my sims, but that is all.  I don't like the starter homes and to build a home that I like, I need more than the 16,500 that is given. 
When I am trying to figure out what to do and what the heck is my sim doing and what did I do to cause that to happen so I won't do that again, it was just to frustrating to worry about such things as keeping the house clean and needing to buy books for skills, such as the fishing one.  The sim may not care if there are windows, but I can't really enjoy looking at a house that my artist or author is in when it is dark and dreary.  So, bigger rooms, LOTS of windows, plenty of trees, flowers and other plants.  Now, that is a home.  I don't buy the nice stuff, tv, and such as those are from when my sim earns them with her income, depending on her career.  An author gets a nice chair and good computer, but for the most part, the first one or the second best. 

That is the only one I know.

I don't think I will use any of the others, but time will tell as I learn more about how to play the game. 

For me, it is the enjoyment that counts, if the cheats help you to enjoy the game better, then go for them.  If using them would affect your enjoyment, then don't.  Isn't that the goal of any game, to be enjoyed while being played? 

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Re: Play Style: Cheats or no Cheats?
« Reply #244 on: April 05, 2012, 11:23:17 AM »
I use cheats, but only if my sims gets stuck or I have multiple sims with very low motives (my sims are useless without me and that's with free will on!)
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Re: Play Style: Cheats or no Cheats?
« Reply #245 on: April 11, 2012, 05:04:17 AM »
I use cheats too, sorry to say. testingcheatsenabled true is very common on my game.cant help it. and moveobjects on while building.

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Re: Play Style: Cheats or no Cheats?
« Reply #246 on: April 11, 2012, 06:48:10 AM »
Well. I cheat or have cheated a lot. But i chalk it up to not being experienced enough yet. For the family in on right now I did use motherlode with them but the husband still works. This will mark the last time I use that cheat on a family I want to build up and live with. I'm weening off make all happy, but with 8 sims in one house it's very hard. Those are really the only ones I use but I'd like to learn more about the building cheats.
Hey heller. I'd say if you'd like to learn more about building cheats, or building in general, check out the Building and Construction board (http://www.carls-sims-3-guide.com/forum/index.php/board,15.0.html) I know it's helped a lot of players (including me!).
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Re: Play Style: Cheats or no Cheats?
« Reply #247 on: May 23, 2012, 04:16:44 PM »
I don't cheat. I'm a very loyal person when it comes to relationships.
And so are my sims. :)

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Re: Play Style: Cheats or no Cheats?
« Reply #248 on: May 24, 2012, 10:43:06 AM »
I really don't like to cheat.  I think it just becomes a routine sort of boring thing if you cheat but that's just me.  I have used the freerealestate cheat though because sometimes I just want to play in a pretty house.  LOL  That does give you an advantage though since you get to start out with a bit of money instead of practically nothing.  I think its so great how you can play the game so many different ways and for those who hate the struggling part in the beginning you just don't have to do that. 

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Re: Play Style: Cheats or no Cheats?
« Reply #249 on: May 24, 2012, 12:55:17 PM »
I was a very big cheater, but sims medieval cure me lol! Now I see that it is much more fun if you don't cheat. I hardly ever cheat now. Wil only kaching if the repo man is on the way. :P