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Re: The Sims 4 Immortal Dynasty Challenge
« Reply #1800 on: April 13, 2016, 11:38:13 AM »
@ratchie My founder is blue and his two boys are blue. They can pollinate the blue gene outside the house (gen 2 after he has his heir, of course) and cloning means I can add any of those kids, namely the blue ones, into the house without their familial relations (my understanding is clones do not have any of the relationships or skills of their donor).

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Re: The Sims 4 Immortal Dynasty Challenge
« Reply #1801 on: April 13, 2016, 12:34:52 PM »
Oh I understand now. Personally I don't like the idea of being able to add children or anyone to the house without doing the work and using the ask to move in social. Of course its totally up to Metro and the ladies of the challenge team.

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Re: The Sims 4 Immortal Dynasty Challenge
« Reply #1802 on: April 13, 2016, 01:40:06 PM »
I've always assumed that the only way you could add to a dynasty household was by asking someone to move in, giving birth, or adopting a child. But I just looked at the rules, and there's nothing that says you can't clone. On the other hand, the general rules were written before GTW came out.

@dontmindme, I'd wait before doing this. Does the clone of a sim outside your household automatically become a member of your household? If so, I'd say no. But if you want to clone someone outside the household and then ask that sim to move in, I think that would be okay. Still, I'd wait until the other members of the team have weighed in.
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Re: The Sims 4 Immortal Dynasty Challenge
« Reply #1803 on: April 13, 2016, 01:52:31 PM »
@MarianT I haven't tried cloning in the game before so my knowledge is second-hand. That said, the guides I've seen say that clones are automatically added to the household. I figured it's probably stretching the rules a bit, that's why I wanted to know. My scientist isn't even at the level to create a cloning machine yet, let alone upgrade it (5-6 and 8, respectively), so waiting/rejecting isn't a huge deal over here.

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Re: The Sims 4 Immortal Dynasty Challenge
« Reply #1804 on: April 13, 2016, 07:20:01 PM »
Yeah, I am not particularly fond of adding to the Dynasty household without at least doing some type of invite. So, I am with Rachel on the cloning thing.

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Re: The Sims 4 Immortal Dynasty Challenge
« Reply #1805 on: April 14, 2016, 06:46:13 AM »
Has anyone noticed a change in the dynamics of relationships between dynasty households?  My elder founder Rose and her great-great-grandaughter Daisy have developed a romance and keep flirting and kissing spontaneously.  Also, the whole household has developed romantic feelings for my gen 6's spouse and keep getting sad and jealous whenever they are affectionate.   It's becoming a nightmare to control them and their raging emotions and hormones!!

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Re: The Sims 4 Immortal Dynasty Challenge
« Reply #1806 on: April 14, 2016, 09:22:03 AM »
RULES UPDATE:

Adding to the household using Sims 4 Gallery is banned.
has been changed to --
Sims can only be added to a household by being born, adopted, married, or asked to move in.

This means no using gallery and no using cloning machine. 

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Re: The Sims 4 Immortal Dynasty Challenge
« Reply #1807 on: April 14, 2016, 09:36:28 AM »
@tjtemple I have noticed my founder keeps flirting with her grandsons and great grandson in law. Its very disconcerting.

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Re: The Sims 4 Immortal Dynasty Challenge
« Reply #1808 on: April 14, 2016, 09:52:29 AM »
@tjtemple I have noticed my founder keeps flirting with her grandsons and great grandson in law. Its very disconcerting.

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Oh @ratchie isn't it awful  :o  I nearly fell off my chair when I found them kissing!  Is this a recent thing for your dynasty?  I've never had it on any of my other (failed) IDC attempts.

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Re: The Sims 4 Immortal Dynasty Challenge
« Reply #1809 on: April 14, 2016, 09:54:59 AM »
Has anyone noticed a change in the dynamics of relationships between dynasty households?  My elder founder Rose and her great-great-grandaughter Daisy have developed a romance and keep flirting and kissing spontaneously.  Also, the whole household has developed romantic feelings for my gen 6's spouse and keep getting sad and jealous whenever they are affectionate.   It's becoming a nightmare to control them and their raging emotions and hormones!!

Do you have a household club? Do you have a sauna?
This happened with my dynasty several months ago--I set up the club activities to ban Social/Romance and Social/Kiss within the club.
Also note that that if your club has Social/Friendly and Hobbies/Spa Activities is a club activities, the game considers "Woohoo/Try for baby in the sauna" to be a "Friendly" activity.
After noticing that all the dynasty men had pink bars with and "Woohoo" whims for Gen3's husband, these steps nipped those romances in the bud.
Also locked up the sauna for everyone except the pollinator's mini-club.

I don't know why it's happening in your dynasty, tj, but the Friendly + Spa Activities + sauna combo is what triggered all the romancing in mine.

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Re: The Sims 4 Immortal Dynasty Challenge
« Reply #1810 on: April 14, 2016, 10:32:12 AM »
RULES UPDATE:

Adding to the household using Sims 4 Gallery is banned.
has been changed to --
Sims can only be added to a household by being born, adopted, married, or asked to move in.

This means no using gallery and no using cloning machine. 

NOTE:
Are there any other ways to add to household that we haven't covered?

What's the difference between doing this in Sims 4 that bans it this time when Sims 3 it was allowed.  Is it because of the age difference or because it can happen to people outside the household? TS3 it was a lifetime reward that was allowed and it made a child version of the household member.  Just trying to understand since I'm still semi new to cloning. 


2nd question - It's probably in the thread somewhere but I can't find it at the moment.   Alien pollination, babies from alien abduction can be returned to home world right?
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Re: The Sims 4 Immortal Dynasty Challenge
« Reply #1811 on: April 14, 2016, 10:52:16 AM »
Hi Rica-

The team just wants to up the difficulty.  Being able to add to household with one click is just a tad bit too easy.

For your second question, you can keep as household members or send back to home world, it is your choice. 

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Re: The Sims 4 Immortal Dynasty Challenge
« Reply #1812 on: April 14, 2016, 11:48:26 AM »
Thanks Nutella.  Just wondering - Thank you! and Thank you again for the quick responses :)
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Re: The Sims 4 Immortal Dynasty Challenge
« Reply #1813 on: April 14, 2016, 12:01:44 PM »
Yes @oshizu I think it's the friendly club activity that's triggered it. I'm going to ban romance and hope all the crushes wear off!

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Re: The Sims 4 Immortal Dynasty Challenge
« Reply #1814 on: April 14, 2016, 12:04:32 PM »
@Nutella

While I respect the decision made by the challenge team, I would like to say that cloning isn't just a click of a button. A member of the household has to join the scientist career, level that career to 8 (getting 14 breakthroughs, completing the tasks at work if joining, etc), go to work, find the materials to create the machine, take time out of work to create the machine, then upgrade the machine at work before you can start cloning sims. I understand the decision as after the initial steps necessary to get the machine it becomes too easy to do (though in my opinion it's like having an heir in Sims 3 who maxes science hanging around to clone X whenever they want), but it is a bit involved to get to that point. Thank you all for the quick verdict, it is much appreciated. :)

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Re: The Sims 4 Immortal Dynasty Challenge
« Reply #1815 on: April 14, 2016, 01:53:38 PM »
RULES UPDATE:

Adding to the household using Sims 4 Gallery is banned.
has been changed to --
Sims can only be added to a household by being born, adopted, married, or asked to move in.

This means no using gallery and no using cloning machine. 

NOTE:
Are there any other ways to add to household that we haven't covered?

What's the difference between doing this in Sims 4 that bans it this time when Sims 3 it was allowed.  Is it because of the age difference or because it can happen to people outside the household? TS3 it was a lifetime reward that was allowed and it made a child version of the household member.  Just trying to understand since I'm still semi new to cloning. 


2nd question - It's probably in the thread somewhere but I can't find it at the moment.   Alien pollination, babies from alien abduction can be returned to home world right?

Cloning in TS3, you cloned someone in the household; the TS4 version basically makes a copy of any sim in town and adds the townie to the household.

And yes, alien babies can be returned to the home world. You have to do it when they're infants, though. Too bad -- I'd have loved to see what an Artie/Pollinator 3 offspring looked like.
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Re: The Sims 4 Immortal Dynasty Challenge
« Reply #1816 on: April 14, 2016, 02:15:09 PM »
RULES UPDATE:

Adding to the household using Sims 4 Gallery is banned.
has been changed to --
Sims can only be added to a household by being born, adopted, married, or asked to move in.

This means no using gallery and no using cloning machine. 

NOTE:
Are there any other ways to add to household that we haven't covered?

What's the difference between doing this in Sims 4 that bans it this time when Sims 3 it was allowed.  Is it because of the age difference or because it can happen to people outside the household? TS3 it was a lifetime reward that was allowed and it made a child version of the household member.  Just trying to understand since I'm still semi new to cloning. 


2nd question - It's probably in the thread somewhere but I can't find it at the moment.   Alien pollination, babies from alien abduction can be returned to home world right?

Cloning in TS3, you cloned someone in the household; the TS4 version basically makes a copy of any sim in town and adds the townie to the household.

And yes, alien babies can be returned to the home world. You have to do it when they're infants, though. Too bad -- I'd have loved to see what an Artie/Pollinator 3 offspring looked like.

Emerging to ask...what makes this different from other methods of cloning in TS3? It's not particularly unlike cloning with the University Life science skill (where, once you unlocked the ability, you could easily clone almost any person inside or outside of the household you could get a sample from), but with more initial work involved (in my opinion). And we never questioned that in TS3 for any of the rulesets.

I held my tongue about it yesterday but the reasoning got a little shakier since then.
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Re: The Sims 4 Immortal Dynasty Challenge
« Reply #1817 on: April 14, 2016, 03:09:03 PM »
@MarianT In Sims 3, you can clone anyone from any household thanks to the University expansion's science skill. The primary difference from Sims 4 is that the clone in Sims 3 begins life as a baby or a child which the house has to raise, while the clone in Sims 4 begins life at the stage of their donor. Oh, and in Sims 3 you can store DNA samples for as long as you want and use them to make a clone whenever you feel like doing so. There are several unfinished Sims 3 ID's based around the idea of storing original townie DNA and using it later as spouses.

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Re: The Sims 4 Immortal Dynasty Challenge
« Reply #1818 on: April 14, 2016, 05:36:40 PM »
You are more likely to get a blue skinned child if your heir reproduces with a darker skinned Sim. The closer to the blue skin on the colour slider the better. If you get what I mean. My blue founder managed to get a random alien coloured heir though.
Have a blue founder so he can reproduce with townies later on and then you can bring the blue into generation five or six. Just try to ignore the fact that you will have a generation with the same person as their great great great grandfather and grandfather at one and the same time. After a couple of generations the game doesn't recognize cousins so that is always an option when it comes to get some blue townies.

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Re: The Sims 4 Immortal Dynasty Challenge
« Reply #1819 on: April 17, 2016, 04:55:43 AM »
I can't see anything about it on the rules but I just wanted to check, is it okay to use a computer to boost an immortal's work performance?

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« Reply #1820 on: April 17, 2016, 07:55:13 AM »
I can't see anything about it on the rules but I just wanted to check, is it okay to use a computer to boost an immortal's work performance?

Hacking work performance is fine.

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Re: The Sims 4 Immortal Dynasty Challenge
« Reply #1821 on: April 21, 2016, 02:39:10 PM »
The ability to edit lots - is that a done only before gameplay starts or is that a anytime during the game? 

Example:  I have a empty serum beaker in a very bad location at the Scientist building.  Can I use edit lot to remove it without asking permission  or do I need to have permission to do it since it's after game play started? 

Another reason I ask - I haven't been to Outdoor Retreat yet so none of the lots have been edited to add/rearrange anything and if I wanted to do just that could I or is it locked forever?

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« Reply #1822 on: April 21, 2016, 04:54:02 PM »
Removing the beaker is fine, you don't need permission.  However editing other lots depends on what and how much you want to edit, let the team know what you have in mind so we can talk about it.

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Re: The Sims 4 Immortal Dynasty Challenge
« Reply #1823 on: April 23, 2016, 08:16:22 AM »
I want to edit the club areas for the Spin Masters and what used to be the Avante Garde's club hangout, can I change things like the wallpaper, floors and add other items like a desk, TV? Am I able the extend the building or knock down walls so there is more space? The Avante Gardes have disbanded and I plan to create my own club either with my current heir or a future one.
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Re: The Sims 4 Immortal Dynasty Challenge
« Reply #1824 on: April 23, 2016, 10:54:50 AM »
Wallpapers -- Yes
Floors -- Yes
Add items like desk/TV -- Yes

Knocking down walls -- No
Extend building -- No