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« Reply #1875 on: June 02, 2016, 05:15:29 PM »
The changes to CAS are only accessible by the player. The game will not create any NPC's using this new functionality.
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« Reply #1876 on: June 02, 2016, 05:22:56 PM »
So it's possible to keep male only households living on if you have a pollinator? Assuming the team allows this feature =D
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« Reply #1877 on: June 02, 2016, 05:29:57 PM »
Can good friends also be ghosts? Or does it have to be a living person?

They have to be living; hence the strategy to delay this element until towards the point of ambrosia.  Otherwise you risk your friends dying, or sometimes being culled by the game (usually not until gen 6 onwards if the town gets over populated).

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« Reply #1878 on: June 02, 2016, 06:34:21 PM »
What I got from the new patch (besides unisex hairs and clothes, which are just that: "new" hairs and clothes):

- You can create a male sim who can get pregnant, or a female sim who can impregnate others. Or a sim who cannot reproduce at all.

- Any of the gender customization options beyond clothes and hair are accessible only from CAS or entering CAS through cheats.

- No sims will spawn with these new options. You'll only get born in-game and generated sims who are typical females and males.

- The reproductive options are the only ones that would have a real, tangible effect on the game. Stuff like feminine vs. masculine body shape, default clothing preference (that you can override just by setting your filters differently), and whether they stand up to pee or not is cosmetic at most.

Personal Opinion, Not an Official Ruling Yet: I don't care what options you give your founder, because I don't see a huge advantage that would arise from having a male founder who could get pregnant/a female founder who could impregnate. But you're stuck with the rest of your sims having the usual options, because as of right now, there is no dynasty-legal way to change them.

Oh, and creating a sim who can't reproduce at all is fine, but it does fail your dynasty before you even start. :P
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« Reply #1879 on: June 02, 2016, 06:37:20 PM »
Actually, most of the changes do not require the cheat at all.  Making your sim more feminine or sterile can be done as early as teen simply from the dresser.  You can also give them any type of minor body modification like bigger breasts, eyes or backside without the cheat, including tattoos as well.  You cannot however do the finer detail mode.
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Re: The Sims 4 Immortal Dynasty Challenge
« Reply #1880 on: June 02, 2016, 06:38:51 PM »
What I got from the new patch (besides unisex hairs and clothes, which are just that: "new" hairs and clothes):

- You can create a male sim who can get pregnant, or a female sim who can impregnate others. Or a sim who cannot reproduce at all.

- Any of the gender customization options beyond clothes and hair are accessible only from CAS or entering CAS through cheats.

- No sims will spawn with these new options. You'll only get born in-game and generated sims who are typical females and males.

- The reproductive options are the only ones that would have a real, tangible effect on the game. Stuff like feminine vs. masculine body shape, default clothing preference (that you can override just by setting your filters differently), and whether they stand up to pee or not is cosmetic at most.

Personal Opinion, Not an Official Ruling Yet: I don't care what options you give your founder, because I don't see a huge advantage that would arise from having a male founder who could get pregnant/a female founder who could impregnate. But you're stuck with the rest of your sims having the usual options, because as of right now, there is no dynasty-legal way to change them.

Oh, and creating a sim who can't reproduce at all is fine, but it does fail your dynasty before you even start. :P

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Re: The Sims 4 Immortal Dynasty Challenge
« Reply #1881 on: June 02, 2016, 06:46:56 PM »
Actually, most of the changes do not require the cheat at all.  Making your sim more feminine or sterile can be done as early as teen simply from the dresser.  You can also give them any type of minor body modification like bigger breasts, eyes or backside without the cheat, including tattoos as well.  You cannot however do the finer detail mode.

Really? They were locked when I tried it. :(

EDIT: Never mind. It works!

So...I guess it will be something to discuss. I think my main point still stands, though: under usual circumstances, I don't think sex changes and the new options give enough of a benefit to ban them. But now that I think about it, it might be used to get around a female growing to old to have children.

Eh. We'll probably have a fun discussion about it. ;)
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Re: The Sims 4 Immortal Dynasty Challenge
« Reply #1882 on: June 02, 2016, 06:54:04 PM »
Actually, most of the changes do not require the cheat at all.  Making your sim more feminine or sterile can be done as early as teen simply from the dresser.  You can also give them any type of minor body modification like bigger breasts, eyes or backside without the cheat, including tattoos as well.  You cannot however do the finer detail mode.

Really? They were locked when I tried it. :(
I tried it in three different files simply by going to the mirror, closet or dresser and choosing "change sim".  Also doesn't reset age like it used to either.
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Re: The Sims 4 Immortal Dynasty Challenge
« Reply #1883 on: June 02, 2016, 06:54:30 PM »
Given the very fast turnaround to questions on the Sims 4 ID thread, I had a question ... Would a team member be free to pop over to the Sims 3 Immortal Dynasty questions thread and answer my question there? Not quite everyone can play Sims 4, afterall! :)

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« Reply #1884 on: June 02, 2016, 06:59:41 PM »
The gender changes require no cheats. They are available through ordinary game play CAS.
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« Reply #1885 on: June 02, 2016, 07:00:52 PM »
So it's possible to keep male only households living on if you have a pollinator? Assuming the team allows this feature =D

I don't think is possible @Nettlejuice as the other males would need to have the 'can get pregnant' option chosen and so far I have not discovered a way to do this in-game with uncontrolled sims.
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« Reply #1886 on: June 02, 2016, 07:17:10 PM »
@Ricalynn @Playalot: See the edit to my post.

I shot a PM over to everyone else.

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« Reply #1887 on: June 02, 2016, 07:19:33 PM »
Sorry, missed your edit!  :)
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« Reply #1888 on: June 03, 2016, 09:48:48 AM »
@Playalot Ah well, maybe one day ^-^
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« Reply #1889 on: June 03, 2016, 11:55:11 PM »
@Trip thank you for that. :)

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Re: The Sims 4 Immortal Dynasty Challenge
« Reply #1890 on: June 04, 2016, 11:35:02 AM »
Hi, I'm having an issue with the successful lineage aspiration. The sim's teenage kid has reached the top of the teen gardener career, completed the Whiz Kid and Artistic Prodigy aspirations and maxed creativity and the mental skill as a child. The 'Have a child max a skill' req checked off normally after the 'Have a kid get an A in High School' fired (and it had to be that because I didn't have the kid max an adult skill until a few days after the A) but the other two reqs aren't firing. I even had the kid complete the Musical Genius aspiration right in front of the SL sim but no dice. Can I count the SL aspiration complete?

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« Reply #1891 on: June 04, 2016, 11:39:59 AM »
Rules Update:

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Gender changes: You are allowed one gender change during teen or YA on any of your sims.

You are allowed to gender change any of your sim in your household ONCE only, during teen or YA.
For your 7th generation female heir, you can use gender change (if born male) or the old-fashioned strawberry/pop music trick during pregnancy.

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« Reply #1892 on: June 04, 2016, 11:51:37 AM »
Thanks for the update team.

When you say change gender what specifically do you mean?  Change from male to female or the cosmetic change body type?

What about the other changes?  Change Sim allows you to do body modifications like adding tattoos and making chicken legs into non chicken legs?  Are these cosmetic changes allowed?

What about pregnancy abilities despite gender?  You don't have to change gender to have a baby just have one of the options checked.

If you move in a Sim who is an adult or an elder does this mean you can't change things for them if you want?  As well as Sims that might already be in a household?
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« Reply #1893 on: June 04, 2016, 12:02:41 PM »
My other question would be if we could change our sims during Adult as well (I prefer moving adults over YA). I would also like to know about the pregnancy limitations. Whether same-sex couples can produce dynasty heirs without needing a surrogate is important for me.

Thanks, Dynasty Team. I know it's got to be tough trying to parse out all of this new content, discuss its impacts, and make new rules so quickly. Thanks for doing a great job.

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« Reply #1894 on: June 04, 2016, 12:33:02 PM »
When you say change gender what specifically do you mean?  Change from male to female or the cosmetic change body type?
Change from male to female. 

What about the other changes?  Change Sim allows you to do body modifications like adding tattoos and making chicken legs into non chicken legs?  Are these cosmetic changes allowed?
Cosmetic changes doesn't affect gameplay, so there is no restriction.  If you do find cosmetic changes affect gameplay, please let the team know and we will revise the rules.

What about pregnancy abilities despite gender?  You don't have to change gender to have a baby just have one of the options checked.
No.  We are going with female pregnancy only.  Team will discuss this issue more and will update with any changes, but for now we are saying "no" to male pregnancy.

If you move in a Sim who is an adult or an elder does this mean you can't change things for them if you want?  As well as Sims that might already be in a household?
Correct for now.  Team is revisiting this issue regarding adult stage, will update soon.  Elder stage is a sure "no", we do not want an elder female being able to change to male and pollinate the town.

My other question would be if we could change our sims during Adult as well (I prefer moving adults over YA).
Team will revisit the adult changes, will update soon. 

I would also like to know about the pregnancy limitations. Whether same-sex couples can produce dynasty heirs without needing a surrogate is important for me.
No male pregnancy.  You can use cosmetic changes to make them appears to look like same sex, but the couples need to have babies the old fashioned way.  Woohoo, get pregnant for 3 trimeters, and pop out a baby.

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« Reply #1895 on: June 04, 2016, 12:37:51 PM »
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No male pregnancy.  You can use cosmetic changes to make them appears to look like same sex, but the couples need to have babies the old fashioned way.  Woohoo, get pregnant for 3 trimeters, and pop out a baby.

Male pregnancies are exactly the same as female pregnancies now. Elder males cannot get pregnant.  This adds no advantage.  Just so the team knows.

Edit to add:  And what's the difference between an elder male pollinating the town and a female doing it? It just seems like a restriction on who you can befriend.

And something to think about as you go along.  What if a spouse we wanted turned into an elder?  Yes that's always been a bummer in the game but the gamemakers just gave us the ability for a couple in love to have a baby despite that issue.  It wouldn't be a problem for an old man and a young woman but what about a younger male and elder female?  This means that the younger male can now carry the fruit of their love.   Does this offer an advantage to an heir?  No more than insuring that all heirs (except one) are male so that you can bring in the next generation in whatever life stage you want.

Also for the older crew (looking at you Metro ;) ) this means we can now have Arnold Schwarzenegger have Junior!
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« Reply #1896 on: June 04, 2016, 02:11:19 PM »
Also for the older crew (looking at you Metro ;) ) this means we can now have Arnold Schwarzenegger have Junior!

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« Reply #1897 on: June 04, 2016, 04:42:50 PM »
Can I make sure I have this straight?

One) You can make guys look feminine and vice versa.

Two) You can change household sims from one sex to the other once so long as they are within the proper age range, which right now is teen and YA.

Three) You cannot change a sim's pregnancy capabilities, however the change in sex will do so.

Four) If you want same-sex couples to have kids together and be legal within the dynasty, then you have to a) move in the spouse at the appropriate age, b) change the sex of the spouse so that they have the opposite equipment, so to speak, and c) change the sim's presentation to the original sex to try to retain the sim's original look and thus the same-sex status. I don't know, it seems way more complicated and unnecessary than simply changing how a sim reproduces.

I would like to point out that woohoo, three trimesters, and pop the kid out is exactly how the game has guys do it already via abduction. I mean, yeah, alien abductions get different moodlets but the mechanics are basically the same. The only thing that's changed is that now they can be impregnated by anyone with the 'impregnate sims' button checked if they themselves have the 'become pregnant' button on.

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« Reply #1898 on: June 04, 2016, 06:37:16 PM »
One) You can make guys look feminine and vice versa.
Correct.

Two) You can change household sims from one sex to the other once so long as they are within the proper age range, which right now is teen and YA.
Correct.  Team has decided that only teen & YA are allowed for gender changes, it's a "no" to adult and elder stage.

Three) You cannot change a sim's pregnancy capabilities, however the change in sex will do so.
Correct.

Four) If you want same-sex couples to have kids together and be legal within the dynasty, then you have to a) move in the spouse at the appropriate age, b) change the sex of the spouse so that they have the opposite equipment, so to speak, and c) change the sim's presentation to the original sex to try to retain the sim's original look and thus the same-sex status. I don't know, it seems way more complicated and unnecessary than simply changing how a sim reproduces. 
We do understand that it would be so much easier to just check mark the "yes pregnant" button, but we have our reasons and for now it's a "no" for male pregnancy in Immortal Dynasty.  Sure it is harder and more complicated, but what's a dynasty without some challenges, eh?

I would like to point out that woohoo, three trimesters, and pop the kid out is exactly how the game has guys do it already via abduction. I mean, yeah, alien abductions get different moodlets but the mechanics are basically the same. The only thing that's changed is that now they can be impregnated by anyone with the 'impregnate sims' button checked if they themselves have the 'become pregnant' button on.
Agree, mechanics are basically the same.  We like to keep aliens special, we love aliens and only aliens have the power to impregnate males.  ;D

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« Reply #1899 on: June 05, 2016, 08:10:07 AM »
Finally I'm ready to redecorate a club area, however when I enter buy mode locked career items are available for purchase (haven't got anyone in the business career yet so I know those aren't unlocked yet). So, my question is may I go ahead and use these items in the club room or wait until one of my own Sims has unlocked them first?

Second question, can spares marry without bringing their partner into the home and is that also legal for gen 7 female? (I think this may have been asked before, I'm not too sure and sorry if it has!)
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