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Re: The Sims 4 Immortal Dynasty Challenge
« Reply #2150 on: November 02, 2016, 12:37:16 AM »
Isn't there a lot size requirement for dynasty play?  If so, I doubt we'd be able to do a dynasty in San Misyumo.  The price for the apartments is pretty high for anything that might work for a dynasty, I think, and with the no moving rule how would you work it?  Going back in to check this out. 

EDITED:  Ok, you can't get the penthouse low enough in price by removing everything except the elevator, mail box and trash shute.  So that one would be out.  If you choose the Alto building you can bull doze the apartment but once you move in you are left with only $4,500 Simoleons in a big, empty, space.  By adjusting the cash with money cheats you can get up to the required $10,000.  I would say the space is closer to 40x30 than 50x50 but I'm not real good at gauging it since it is an unusual shape, more oblong than square.  I know it will take you some time to figure out if we can actually do a dynasty there without messing up all the rules but I sure would love to hear what the verdict is once you have the chance.  Thanks you guys.  You are the best.
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Re: The Sims 4 Immortal Dynasty Challenge
« Reply #2151 on: November 02, 2016, 03:12:03 PM »
The team will look into this, thanks for the info Joria.



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Re: The Sims 4 Immortal Dynasty Challenge
« Reply #2152 on: November 02, 2016, 09:11:49 PM »
The Landgraab building is "possible" but it takes work.  You cannot just bulldoze it, you have to go in and hammer everything or you lose the entire second floor.  It is plenty big enough for the purposes  but even totally hammered out there is a $25,000 deposit which is too much for a beginner Sim.  They could, of course, once they have landed on a cheap lot, just go and get either of the wealthiest families to move in, then move everyone into that building.  It's quite nice.  The devs did a great job decorating the apartments, even the cheapest ones.  I'm going to do a practice run doing just that.  Move in the rich guys and then move into the building with them.
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Re: The Sims 4 Immortal Dynasty Challenge
« Reply #2153 on: November 03, 2016, 08:50:12 AM »
Does installing an EP (such as city living) that comes with a new world, with new townies, and with a Dynasty already in progress count as 're-populating'? Half of me thinks it should, the other half thinks it shouldn't.
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« Reply #2154 on: November 03, 2016, 09:11:40 AM »
@Whirligig: I don't think so. It's certainly nice and kind of a boon to have a few new townies, but it's a different beast from repopulating your game. I'm actually gonna try to play through a little more of my dynasty before buying CL for that reason...but we'll see how long I last. :P
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Re: The Sims 4 Immortal Dynasty Challenge
« Reply #2155 on: November 05, 2016, 11:02:16 AM »
Does anyone know how to fix a grafting bug without starting the game over?  :( My sim takes a cutting from a plant, but when in her inventory it doesn't say what type of plant it's from. Then when she tries grafting it onto a plant there seems to be a glitch where she jumps back and nothing is grafted. I've restarted the game multiple times, cleared the cache, reset the sim and debugged the plants - none of which works.

I have successfully grafted many times in other games, but not the one I'm currently playing.

In searches, it looks like this was supposed to be fixed in a patch. Any suggestions? Is there a workaround so I don't have to start my Dynasty over?

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Re: The Sims 4 Immortal Dynasty Challenge
« Reply #2156 on: November 05, 2016, 12:37:51 PM »
Jen, that's been broken again since the last patch. As a workaround, harvest the plants you want to graft, plant them on your home lot and take the cuttings from there. Grafting from plants on your Sim's lot is working.



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Re: The Sims 4 Immortal Dynasty Challenge
« Reply #2157 on: November 05, 2016, 03:43:56 PM »
Can you use the City Living expansion in the Dynasty? I would love to have one of my immortals get one of the new jobs and maybe open a restaurant in Sim Misyumo or something. Also, I love the new build/buy items :D

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Re: The Sims 4 Immortal Dynasty Challenge
« Reply #2158 on: November 05, 2016, 04:52:51 PM »
Can you use the City Living expansion in the Dynasty? I would love to have one of my immortals get one of the new jobs and maybe open a restaurant in Sim Misyumo or something. Also, I love the new build/buy items :D

Yes, you can use City Living. The only thing that hasn't been decided yet is whether there's a lot for the Immortal Dynasty there.
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Re: The Sims 4 Immortal Dynasty Challenge
« Reply #2159 on: November 06, 2016, 04:00:58 PM »
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Yes, you can use City Living. The only thing that hasn't been decided yet is whether there's a lot for the Immortal Dynasty there.

The truly only bulldozer able lot for dynasty is the Salt House in the Spice District.  Can't bull doze the Park because of no bull dozing venue lots rule and can't really bull doze apartments/lofts of any size comparable for a dynasty.  They need to be hammered out piece by piece.  Possible is the Landgraab building but then your Sim needs to have $5,000 a week rent.  Bull dozed, the Old Salt House costs $9,000 but is only a 30x30 lot.   Torendi Tower Penthouse is a 40x30 lot when hammered out and costs $37,850 which is unaffordable by a starter Sim and gave me a serious case of vertigo.  So you would have to make separate rules/exceptions to be able to do a HOF dynasty here.  Bull dozing the Park would be a crime and really take out a LOT of what you go to San M for. 

If bulldozing venues becomes allowed in San M, the Casbah Gallery is a 40x30 lot but for $30,000, again, not affordable.  The Stargazer Lounge is 40x30 but costs $44,465.  The gym is too small.  The Park can be bull dozed but the venue cannot be changed so it would remain a park.
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Re: The Sims 4 Immortal Dynasty Challenge
« Reply #2160 on: November 06, 2016, 04:48:28 PM »
Can you use the City Living expansion in the Dynasty? I would love to have one of my immortals get one of the new jobs and maybe open a restaurant in Sim Misyumo or something. Also, I love the new build/buy items :D

Yes, you can use City Living. The only thing that hasn't been decided yet is whether there's a lot for the Immortal Dynasty there.

Thank you just making sure, I was also a bit hasitant because someone suggested that it could be counting as a repopulation of your dynasty file.

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« Reply #2161 on: November 07, 2016, 10:59:28 AM »
I was looking into the new aspiration from City Living to see whether you can do it for your Dynasty, but you need to own an appartment for that. So you can't really do that right? Because you can't have more houses.

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Re: The Sims 4 Immortal Dynasty Challenge
« Reply #2162 on: November 07, 2016, 11:10:31 AM »
City Living is just not suitable for Immortal Dynasty starting lots.  Would it be a crime to not include "San Myshuno" as one of the starting lots for this dynasty?  I would like to hear player's opinion on this.  We could force a starting lot, but lots of cheats will have to be allowed, so kinda hesitate on moving forward with it.

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« Reply #2163 on: November 07, 2016, 11:43:54 AM »
I think it wouldn't be a bad idea not to include it. You can still go there and do a lot of things.

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Re: The Sims 4 Immortal Dynasty Challenge
« Reply #2164 on: November 07, 2016, 01:57:14 PM »
In my legacy, my sims go to the festivals. The Museums, gym etc are great. I haven't played the careers yet. But not starting a dynasty there is no problem for me.

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Re: The Sims 4 Immortal Dynasty Challenge
« Reply #2165 on: November 07, 2016, 02:28:14 PM »
I for one would love to start a dynasty there as it is a really interesting town.  The only real problem with San M is the lots.  If you've read my posts you can see there are two problems; the size and the cost.  Basically it boils down to one lot available, the Old Salt House, so the only thing you guys would have to do is allow a one time money cheat to buy it after it is bulldozed and allow for that size lot.  It is quite buildable, both up and down, and would be suitable for all the things you'd need for a dynasty.  You can step out of this lot right into the Spice Center, and do all the normal things including fishing off the pier close by without traveling.
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Re: The Sims 4 Immortal Dynasty Challenge
« Reply #2166 on: November 07, 2016, 05:55:07 PM »
I'm not playing an immortal dynasty at the moment, but I'm always following this thread and reading other simmers' stories.
Personally, I think the present Immortal Dynasty and City Living ask for different styles of gameplay.
Whereas in an Immortal Dynasty we start at one lot and gradually transform it into a multigenerational home, I've found most of the fun in City Living is starting out dirt-poor and gradually moving into nicer and nicer apartments as household funds increase.

Even without living in San Myshuno, we can still enjoy the festivals and flea markets, as @MissZoef and @sdhoey already pointed out.
City Living offers much that makes a dynasty so much easier: the lot traits are OP, you can simply buy or find stuff that used to take sim-months to acquire (like the UFO plant).
I think it would be super amazing if the Challenge Team or @Joria (or both) would design a separate, smaller challenge that exploits all of City Living's new features, a challenge where the founder starts out in San Myshuno.
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« Reply #2167 on: November 07, 2016, 06:13:53 PM »
@oshizu Yeah I think it would ask for a different style of gameplay indeed. Also, the lot traits are VERY OP. I was almost shocked how quickly you can learn skills. When you don't feel like griding a skill for too long in your IDC it can be nice, but it makes it so much easier.

I would love to see a challenge designed for Sim Myschuno, maybe something for next year?

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Re: The Sims 4 Immortal Dynasty Challenge
« Reply #2168 on: November 07, 2016, 07:27:13 PM »
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Yes, you can use City Living. The only thing that hasn't been decided yet is whether there's a lot for the Immortal Dynasty there.

The truly only bulldozer able lot for dynasty is the Salt House in the Spice District.  Can't bull doze the Park because of no bull dozing venue lots rule and can't really bull doze apartments/lofts of any size comparable for a dynasty.  They need to be hammered out piece by piece.  Possible is the Landgraab building but then your Sim needs to have $5,000 a week rent.  Bull dozed, the Old Salt House costs $9,000 but is only a 30x30 lot.   Torendi Tower Penthouse is a 40x30 lot when hammered out and costs $37,850 which is unaffordable by a starter Sim and gave me a serious case of vertigo.  So you would have to make separate rules/exceptions to be able to do a HOF dynasty here.  Bull dozing the Park would be a crime and really take out a LOT of what you go to San M for. 

If bulldozing venues becomes allowed in San M, the Casbah Gallery is a 40x30 lot but for $30,000, again, not affordable.  The Stargazer Lounge is 40x30 but costs $44,465.  The gym is too small.  The Park can be bull dozed but the venue cannot be changed so it would remain a park.

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Re: The Sims 4 Immortal Dynasty Challenge
« Reply #2169 on: November 08, 2016, 01:32:43 PM »
Question:  what does OP mean?

I think what folks are not remembering in the discussion about IDC in San M is there is no reason you cannot play IDC STYLE.  It just would not be legal for the HOF.  So if someone wanted to do an IDC for purposes of writing a story, or even just for practice, they could.  It just wouldn't count challenge wise. 
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Re: The Sims 4 Immortal Dynasty Challenge
« Reply #2170 on: November 08, 2016, 01:48:46 PM »
Question:  what does OP mean?

Gamer term for overpowered.

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Re: The Sims 4 Immortal Dynasty Challenge
« Reply #2171 on: November 08, 2016, 03:13:24 PM »
We will have the final decision on the new city and lot traits later this evening or tomorrow morning. 

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« Reply #2172 on: November 08, 2016, 03:52:34 PM »
We will have the final decision on the new city and lot traits later this evening or tomorrow morning. 

I thought you can use the lot traits since you are allowed to use the EP. However, I can see why this is under consideration. As far as I experienced they are pretty OP.

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« Reply #2173 on: November 08, 2016, 08:06:42 PM »
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