Sunset Valley 2020

[Jaga Telesin]

>> It's finally here! Sunset Valley 2020 Version 2.0 <<

Be sure to visit our new website for Sunset Valley 2020 for more information and a gallery of screenshots.


Quick-Access Index:

• What is SV2020?
• What versions are available?
• SV2020 Map images
• Vanilla & Chocolate Features
• Download Links
• Install Instructions
• Playing Vanilla or Chocolate
• Contributor Credits
• Recommended Mods
• Frequently Asked Questions (FAQs) Updated Jan.2021
• Using SV2020 in Challenges
• Exclusive Sims in SV2020

Heavily inspired by Naga’s SV 7.0, MrsFlynn and I are happy to bring you a new pair of worlds for The Sims 3! We’ve made sure to include all the wonderful features from that full world (which is no longer available) in both versions of Sunset Valley 2020.


Designed for all Expansions
Like SV 7.0, Sunset Valley 2020 was designed for use with all Expansion Packs installed.  It has a broad amount of expansion content, and even some from various Stuff Packs.

World Routing Fixes
Both versions of Sunset Valley 2020 were constructed on the fixed Sunset Valley world that EllaCharmed did. That world was then fully cleaned, and all lots reconstructed by hand on top of it, which results in an extremely smooth running game.  Animals and sims roaming around the world (outside of lots) won't get stuck anymore due to her terrain and lot adjustments.

Lot Routing Fixed
The largest Sims 3 performance issue in the past has been with sim routing – they get stuck easily. That problem is virtually gone with SV2020: all lots on the world have been meticulously optimized for clean sim routing, to ensure that sims navigate smoothly and as few as possible get stuck. SV2020 has been tested on a laptop which is many years old, and runs extremely well.

A Smooth and Rich Game Experience!
Due to all the pathing fixes and optimized lots, you will find that many more sims “show up” to lots your sims visit, in addition to just generally being *everywhere* in the world. Sunset Valley 2020 is much more alive and populated, and is aimed at providing a fantastic Sims 3 experience.


Screenshots (click to expand)
             

Full screenshot albums are available on our dedicated website in the Gallery section!


Two Versions to Choose From
There are two versions of 2020 to use: Vanilla (bean), and (milk) Chocolate! Vanilla is aimed at a more traditional experience without supernatural sims (but watch for our Easter egg!). Chocolate has a population of 25% supernaturals and 75% regular human sims. Each is presented as a saved game (before choosing a starting family).

Click to expand, and then click the bottom right to see largest view.


SV 2020 Maps:

• SV2020 v2 Map - Normal Resolution (lossy JPG, 909 KB, resolution: 1920x1138)
• SV2020 v2 Map - High Resolution (lossless PNG, 12 MB, resolution:  4k)
• SV2020 v2 Map - Bird's Eye View (no icons/legend, lossless PNG, 12 MB, resolution:  4k)

Both Vanilla & Chocolate include:

• World routing fixes from EllaCharmed’s Sunset Valley map
• Optimized lots for streamlined performance and minimal or no stuck sims
• A large number of new sims from other worlds: Appaloosa Plains, Starlight Shores, Moonlight Falls, Bridgeport, and even some custom sims
• Arboretum, Consignment Store, Elixir Consignment store, Fire Station, Gypsy Wagon, Hall of Antiquity, Junkyard, Laundromat and a Salon
• All club types from Late Night, allowing night-time socialization and hotspots
• The ability to complete Mixology challenges for clubs & bars
• A Generations upgraded park, and a large Festival Grounds park for Seasons
• Equestrian Center & Horse Ranch
• Subways scattered around town to help mobility-challenged sims
• Pet parks for cats & dogs
• Showtime lots for aspiring sims
• A new pair of lots for players wanting to play a "Squatters" challenge (aptly named Squatter's Summit)
• A new Island Paradiso Resort (The Royal Paradise Hotel)
• A Fixer upper Resort called Ticky-Tacky-Tiki (Aka Hobart's Hideway) Revamped. - Routing issues resolved. Suitable for players to buy and upgrade early on.
• Mooring posts to purchase boats from, down at the beach by the Ticky-Tacky-Tiki
• Four Dive Spots from Island Paradiso can now be found in the bay
• A new 60x60 custom home on the hill, suitable for luxury living or a large family
• Most homes have cribs added for families with babies or new arrivals
• A new criminal hideout for those seeking a change of career
• All sims start as they would in a new game:  base skills and no unnatural aging

In addition to the above, each world has distinct differences for a unique experience:

SV2020 Vanilla:

• More sims populating the world – a large number of new faces!

SV2020 Chocolate:

• A balanced selection of supernatural sims to spice up the world (25% population)
• Similar to Vanilla, more (and different) sims have moved into town
• Several upgraded lots, and a brand new beachfront property

CC and Store Content free!

• No Custom Content (CC) or Store Content was used in either Vanilla or Chocolate!
• No spawners were modified, with the exception of two Robot Fish spawners to support the moved Science Facility.

Requirements:

• All Expansion Packs (EPs) were used in building the world, and are highly recommended for play.
  -- The community lots will show, but will not be functional if you don't have all expansions.
• EllaCharmed’s Fixed Sunset Valley .world file (download & install instructions below)
  Note:  SV2020 will not run properly without first installing this .world file!

SV2020 Version 2.0 Download Links

• SV2020 v2.0 - Vanilla (53 MB)
• SV2020 v2.0 - Chocolate (53 MB)
• EllaCharmed’s Fixed World file (required, 69 MB)

Additionally you can download directly from our website's World Downloads page.

   ✽ Need help extracting the save files? Read over this article here for our how-to.


Install Instructions
There are two parts to SV 2020’s installation: 1) The .world file, and 2) The SV2020 packages which are save games (Vanilla or Chocolate, or both if you want).

Step 1: Installing the World File (required):

• Click the Windows Start button, find the search box, type in Sunset Valley.world
• Look for "Sunset Valley.world" in the file results window, right-click it and then click "Open File Location"
• You should see “Sunset Valley.world” in the folder that opens.  Right-click it and choose "Rename", then rename it to “Sunset Valley.old”
• Extract the .world file from the Sunset_Valley.zip file you downloaded here, and copy it to the folder where you renamed the original Sunset Valley.world to .old
• When done correctly, your Worlds folder should look something like this:

  ✽ Your Worlds install path may be different, depending on how you have your game installed.

Step 2: Installing 2020’s Vanilla or Chocolate’s save files (required):

• After downloading the Vanilla or Chocolate Zip from this topic, extract the Zip to a folder
• Using a file manager, browse to your “Documents\Electronic Arts\The Sims 3\Saves” folder
• Copy the extracted folder to that Saves folder
• When done correctly, your Saves folder will have a new folder in it (for each SV 2020 version you install):

Playing Vanilla or Chocolate

• After installing the .world file and either the Vanilla or Chocolate save, launch The Sims 3 and wait for the main menu.
• There should be a new save-game icon in the load window for whichever version of SV2020 you installed.
• Playing SV2020 is as easy as loading that save, and when the town is viewable click on the button at the top labeled “Return to Game Setup”.  From there you can create or choose a household and begin playing!

Contributor Credits

• Jaga Telesin, for taking the time to put the save files together, cleaned up and fixed routing issues on the lots as well as various other things.
• MrsFlynn, for countless hours of creative work on sims, lots, inspiration, feedback, the new Myrtle Beach property and support help!
• Flynn Arrowstarr, for The Zen player home, many screenshots, and other contributions along the way.
• Naga, for providing inspiration & lots from the original Sunset Valley 7.0 (a base for SV 2020)
• EllaCharmed, for her fixed version of Sunset Valley
• Lynley1248, for the The Loess (4BD/4BA) house lot
• Ausette, for the Dance Club and the original Terra Cot 5br 3.5ba lot (modified & expanded by Jaga Telesin)
• Joria, for the Dive Bar and Sports Bar
• Jotape, for the original Royal Paradiso Hotel (heavily modified by Jaga Telesin)
• HappyASU09 for the Sunnyside Strand beach property
• Nallis for the Recurve Strand Beach Bar
• Danefaith for the improved Mirabello Plaza
• Renewed Central Park from Samoht04 & Naga
• Turjan for lot tweak ideas, tips, feedback and support help
• MrsGoodWrench - for tips, feedback and support help

   ✽ From MrsFlynn, for clarification purposes:

Jaga was the one the put the SV2020 save files together, along with the things mentioned above, and also has the master save files. Due to that I cannot and won't be making any changes to the save files or the lots. I also do not have access to upload them to the official SV2020 site.

I will help the best I can on support of the save files.


Updates

• Mar 27 2020 - v2.0 of Vanilla & Chocolate released.
• Jan 12 2020 - v1.1 of the Royal Paradise Hotel resort lot added for download (a replacement for the original lot)
• Jan 1 2020 - v1.0 of Vanilla & Chocolate released.

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Recommended Mods
(for enhanced performance, fixing bugs, and quality-of-life improvements)

• NRaas mods (highly recommended!):  ErrorTrap, MasterController, Mover, NoCD, Overwatch, Register, Relativity, Traffic, Retuner
• Elevator Faster Mod (fast version)
• No Route Fail Tantrum
• Opportunity Phone Call Fix
• Interaction On Sloped Terrain Enabler
• ‘No Stretch’ Children Can Series
• No More Crying Over Plants
• Island Paradise Rabbit Hole Rugs
• Autonomous Fun In The Sun
• Twoftmama’s Route Fixes (register on simsasylum.com to view/download)
• Shimrod’s Resort Revamp mod  (register on simsasylum.com to view/download)
• Shimrod’s Dive Cave Reset Fix mod  (register on simsasylum.com to view/download)
• MissyHissy's Job Centre - Get More Careers

Frequently Asked Questions (FAQs)

  ✽ Updated Jan.2021

Q: How do I unzip/extract the downloads for SV2020?

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A: See this article - Extracting the SV2020 Save Files to help unzip or extract the save files.

Or refer to:

This article for PC users

This article for Mac users

Q: I can't seem to find the right folder for the Sunset Valley.world file, where is it?

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A: If Windows Search isn't working for some reason, you can find the default install folder for The Sims 3 under these paths:

• C:\Program Files (x86)\Electronic Arts - for the Disc Version
• C:\Program Files (x86)\Origin Games - for the Origin Version

   ✽ The path for Mac users is a little different. Please see the question below, Can I use these worlds on a Mac? to find the .world file.

Q: Can I use these worlds on a Mac? ~ Yes!!

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A: Simply place the extracted save game into your Saves folder, and be sure to place the Sunset Valley.world file where your original was, after renaming the original one in that folder to .old.

Open Applications or the user Applications folder, which you can reach by clicking on Macintosh HD (or whatever you've renamed your hard disk) in a Finder window and selecting Users > your username > Applications.  From there, the file path is:

The Sims 3.app > Contents > Resources > The Sims 3.app > Contents > GameData > Shared > NonPackaged > Worlds

When you want to open an .app, right-click on it and select "Show Package Contents."

 – Reference Link:
[Mac] Unable to locate Sunset Valley.world file
https://answers.ea.com/t5/Technical-Issues-Mac/Mac-Unable-to-locate-Sunset-Valley-world-file/td-p/9887239

Q: I don’t see the SV2020 save game in the load menu, what do I do?

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A: Make sure that the unzipped world folder you downloaded is in your \Saves folder, is named the same as the download (without the .zip extension), and has files directly inside the folder (not in a sub-folder).

   ✽ Please refer to this article for help.

Q: I loaded the SV2020 save, but it doesn't seem to be working (or there is a lot of lag)

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A: Did you remember to download and install the "Sunset Valley.world" file too?  It is required for playing either Vanilla or Chocolate SV2020.  Instructions on how to install it are in the Installation Instructions above.

If the world file and save file have been correctly installed and there is still a lot of lag at the start of the game, please give it a few minutes for the game to catch up. The game maybe trying to finish setting up the save.

There are quite a few resource heavy lots added to the save files that may take a bit to setup. Like the Royal Paradise Hotel and the bar lots. These lots have a lot of bar objects that need to be staffed by service Sims.

If you continue to have lag, you may want to consider taking out the large hotel and some of the bars to see if that might help.

For Info: There is 23 Professional bar objects and 44 elevator pieces.

Q: Will using EllaCharmed's .world file (required for SV2020) harm my older Sunset Valley saves?

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A: Using an original Sunset Valley save game (started before installing EllaCharmed's .world file) is perfectly fine, but you may notice some visual artifacts with lot placement and roads.  If you are going to be switching between older SV saves and newer SV2020 saves, you may want to replace the .world files each time you change. 

However, starting a new SV game with EllaCharmed's world file is acceptable, and in fact why she created the world file.  It fixes routing issues all over, and should be the base .world used for all new SV and SV2020 games you play.

Q: I don't have this or that expansion pack, will the save files still work?

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A: We've tested the save files while disabling different expansions. The saves load and will play fine.

   – The community lots from any missing expansions will show up, but they will not be functional.

Showtime is somewhat required. For the stadium. Ambitions is suggested, as Brunton's Boxcar Diner is installed in the SV2020 saves.

If you don't have stadium. You will need to load up the original Sunset Valley and save a copy of the stadium to your library and place it into your SV2020 save file so it will be functional.  As the game does not replace the stadium automatically. 

If you don't have Ambitions installed, the diner will be replaced with Hogan's Deep-Fried Diner.

Need help with saving a lot? How To: Save a Lot to the Library

Q: Are all the original Sims from Sunset Valley present in these saves?

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A: No, some beloved families aren't in either versions of SV2020. We had to make some tough choices in that regard. We're sorry about that!!

Some of the families were removed to make room for families from the different expansion packs as well as some player made Sims.

  ✽ As a friendly reminder, If you find a favorite Sim or family are missing, load up an original Sunset Valley and save them to the library, then place them into your SV2020 save file.

Need help with saving a household? How To: Save a Household to the Library

Need help with saving a lot? How To: Save a Lot to the Library

Q: Can I move my existing families into SV2020?

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A: Yes, you can move your existing families by going into your current save and saving them to the library. You can do the same with their house and any community lots you want to move over.

Need help with saving a household? How To: Save a Household to the Library

Need help with saving a lot? How To: Save a Lot to the Library

Q: Can I remove existing families or homes to place my own?

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A: Yes!  SV2020’s worlds are just like any other world - you can move families, remove them entirely if you want, or even bulldoze their homes to make space for your own.  If you bulldoze community lots without moving them elsewhere, you may lose access to certain content from different Expansion Packs (like the ability to complete Bar challenges from Late Night).

Q: Is there room to add more community lots?

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A: If you would like to add more community lots, (extra schools, university, lots from the store, etc. ) you will need to bulldoze any existing houses or other community lots, as there are not very many empty lots in these save files, due to it being a small map.

Q: How do I save the lots from SV2020?
     I like some of the lots from SV2020 and want to add them to my new save file.

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A: You can do this by saving any lot to your library and then placing them in your new save file.

Need help with saving a lot? How To: Save a Lot to the Library

Please be aware that some of the lots' terrain has been edited and may not place correctly in your new save. The lot may need to be edited again.

If so, please see Crinrict's article linked below for help with that.

Imported house raises/lowers the terrain

To edit the terrain, you need to use this build cheat:

SetImportedTerrainOffset (value)

It's been recommended to try starting with a minus 2 ( -2 ) and go from there. Positive numbers raise the lot and negative numbers lower the lot.

Karrit's Tutorial - Fix Terrain Height of Placed Lot
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=19Z2A5EA8Xs

Q: SV2020 is missing some community lots? - Hogan’s Deep-Fried Diner, the original stadium and Old Pier Beach.

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A: Most of the community lots from the original Sunset Valley are still there, with exceptions of these lots:

 -- Hogan’s Deep-Fried Diner. It was removed and replaced with Brunton's Boxcar Diner - located behind the Supermarket in Mirabello Plaza.

 

 -- The original stadium was replaced with the one from Showtime, as it's not only a stadium, it's a big show venue.

 

 -- The lot formerly known as Old Pier Beach was renamed Sunset Beach and moved down the beach, just off of Sunnyside Blvd.

 

Q: Where's the Stadium? I don't have Showtime and there's no Stadium?

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A: If you do not have Showtime, the stadium won't function properly. You will need to load up the original Sunset Valley and save a copy of the original stadium to your library and place it into your SV2020 save file so that you can have a functional stadium.

 -- Due to replacing the stadium, you will need to have your Sim join the Sport Career again.

* The game does not replace the stadium automatically, if you do not have Showtime.

The Stadium from Showtime was added to the SV2020 saves as it's not only a stadium, it's a big show venue.

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Q: The seasonal festivals aren't being held at Central Park? Was the lot moved?

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A: Yes the lot was moved to Summer Hills Springs - 25 Summer Hill Court. Next Door to the Altos.

Festival Lot ~ Summer Hill Springs (Click images to see larger view)
 

Q: I can't find the Robo fish, Where have they been moved to?

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A: You can find the robo fish in two ponds. Up at the pond at Stoney Falls, 57 Waterfall Way. And Pinochle Pond (near the Equestrian Center and "Loft" houses), in the middle set of fish.

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Stoney Falls


Pinochle Pond

Q: Spawners in the SV2020 save files?

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I don't think Jaga added any specific spawners from any of the expansions.  The spawners from the original Sunset Valley are there, players can find plants, gems, rocks etc. Read more about it here

Q: Will my custom content work with SV2020?

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A: Yes!  Vanilla and Chocolate contain no Custom Content themselves, but you are free to add it in after starting a game using them.  Items will work as they normally do in any other saved game.

Q: What do I do if the game tells me some objects could not be loaded?

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A: If you get a message about the game not loading objects when starting the worlds (and are sure you have all EPs installed), you can safely ignore it.  We (and other creators) used some content from Stuff Packs, which the game will replace with regular items if they aren’t installed.

Q: Are the Travel Worlds still available with SV2020?

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A: Yes! China, Egypt, France, The Future, and so on can still be visited from either version of SV2020

Q: I don’t see any houseboats or World Adventure tombs, why?

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A: We’ve intentionally omitted houseboats from SV2020 due to the fact they typically generate more lag in the game than desired.  If you want to add docks for them, and then the houseboats, you are more than welcome to modify the worlds to suit your needs.  WA Tombs are best left to vacation worlds, and we didn't want to change SV to the point it looked like a WA world.

Q: Can I upgrade the Resort Towers in The Royal Paradise Hotel?

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A: Yes!  You can upgrade them exactly one time each.  If you upgrade them more, they will start to "poke through" the floors above them.  To get a larger resort capacity without doing that, you can use the Island Paradise Rabbit Hole Rugs mod, which allows you to simulate another Resort Tower in the form of a rug.  Simply drop one down on the floor by the existing towers, and upgrade it as much as you like.

Q: How can I improve performance for large Resort lots (like The Royal Paradise Hotel)? 

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A: Due to the streamlined performance of SV2020, you may find many more sims showing up at lots your sim visits.  With the IP expansion and sims choosing to lie out in the sun, this means more choices for things to do on Beach & Resort lots, and more sims doing them.  To improve Resort lot and Beach lot performance significantly, follow these short instructions:
 

• Download and extract/install NRaas Retuner to your Mods\Packages folder
• Start up the game, and load your save
• Go to Map view, then click on the Town Hall icon.  Choose NRaas -> Retuner
• From the menu that opens, click "Show Object Menu" to toggle it to True, then click the large Checkmark in the lower right.
• Zoom into any lot, and click on a patch of open ground.  Choose NRaas -> Retuner -> General, this will open a list.
• Find "Relax Here" in the list and click it.  A new menu will open.  Turn all items in the list from True to False by clicking on them, except User Directed. When done, click the large check mark to exit.
• This setting is saved when you save your game.  If you start a new game with either Vanilla or Chocolate, you will have to re-do this change.

You may also want to disable "Play in the sand" autonomous actions for NPC sims (other than children) using NRaas Retuner:

• Make sure Show Object Menu is turned on for Retuner (first set of steps in above list)
• Zoom into any lot, and click on a patch of open ground.  Choose NRaas -> Retuner -> General, this will open a list.
• Find "Play in Sand" and click it.  A new menu will open.  Find "Allow Age Species" and click it, and another menu will open.
• The only entry in the list you want set to 'True' is for 'Human Child'.  If any of the others are True, click them to toggle them to 'False'.  When done and the only entry with True is Human Child, click the large Check mark.

These changes to available sim interactions can significantly improve the game's performance on large Resort and Beach lots.

Q: Which Sims 3 version do I need to play it, 1.67 or 1.69?

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A: It doesn't matter which version (1.67 or 1.69) The SV2020 saves play fine on either one.

➡ Info: I found a stuck sim that NRaas had to reset!

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A: If you find a spot in the world or in a lot that came with SV2020 (either version) that still experiences problems, please let us know via a PM here and we’ll try to investigate.  If you’ve made changes to a lot a sim gets stuck on, we can’t guarantee that pathing and object placement will continue to be optimal on that lot.

➡ Info: Missing pet items in houses.

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We are aware there aren't any pet dishes/beds/toys in any of the houses that have pets. This has been noted, but please understand it may or may not be fixed. However, you may add those objects yourself by going into buy mode while on any residential lot.

There's a few ways to edit lots:

  1. Via Edit Town
  2.With active Sim and testingcheatsenabled on, click on ground of lot you want to edit and select build or buy on this lot. Warning this will use your active household's money.
  3. If using mods Nraas Debugenabler build/buy on this lot.

➡ Info: Subway Issues

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It was reported that a few lots have a double map icon/name tag issue when looking at the map in Map View. We've looked into this and found it may be by design when the object or building is on a lot of it's own. For example, the Vault/Hall of Antiquity lot, and single subway lots.

I also wanted to mention that the single subway lots can be renamed via Edit Town mode. Left-click on the bench icon and Edit Details button, which is the pen/paper icon. After you've renamed the subway, you can mouse over either the subway icon or bench icon to see it's new name.

Read more here.

➡ Info: SV2020 and Katy Perry Sweet Treats.

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SV2020 does not have any Katy Perry Sweet Treats (KPST) lots or items installed, so not having that pack shouldn't affect either save file. The lot that looks like it has items from KPST is one from Showtime called Flying V's Coffeehouse. Read more about it here

✽ Issue: Performing in Central Park Issue and Fix

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The watch the show interaction cancels itself out, due to it needing 3 or 4 audience markers. This can be fixed by placing them via buydebug. You are looking for objects called Show Floor Benches or Tables. After it's fixed, save a copy of the lot to the library.

 – From Edit Town click on the lot - Build/Buy mode.

 – Press Shift-Ctrl-C all together, and type in Testingcheatsenabled on.

 – Press Shift-Ctrl-C again and type in buydebug on.

 – Buy mode > Sort by Function > Buydebug > Misc Objects - Filter content by Showtime.

 – Look for objects Show Floor for Benches or Tables.

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✽ Issue: Mad Broncos Bar (Can't Do Simfest) - Possible Fix

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The tables/chairs are too close together and may have too many show floor markers for the Simfest items to work properly.

Click images to see larger view (Before and After)
 

This lot will need to be edited to fix that. What's shown in the after photo is a shortened karaoke area and seating areas moved a bit to make more space between them. -- Testingcheatsenabled on and buydebug were used.

Trying to replace it with Mick's Master Karaoke Bar from the Community lots tab will have same problem. A couple of alternative ideas are to switch one of the other bars to a Live Show Venue bar, create your own, find one online or perhaps request one be built.

✽ Issue: Sims stuck under front porch - Hart House

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We aren't able to reproduce this specific issue/glitch. The best we can offer is some troubleshooting tips:

Resetting the lot, Resetting the Sim, Save lot to library, bulldoze current lot and replace with copy from the library. Move or replace items on the porch like the wall lights, planters, seating. Move door over to see if it happens again. If yes, try replacing the lot and/or exit the game and restart computer and game. Then try checking the lot again. 

There's a lot of factors that go into Sims and their routing paths.

Jaga did say he did test for routing issues and whatnot, but we cannot totally prevent all routing issues.

✽ Issue: Dive Lots (Floating Above Water Level/Get Flung Back from Dive Spot)

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All 4 dive lots do work as designed other than the buoys and Sims swimming above water.

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This seems to be an issue with dive lots that are added to any town or save file from the library. As is the case with the dive lots in SV2020, they were copied over from IP.

There are some suggested fixes, but aren't guaranteed to work. It's best to edit or build the dive lot in place in the specific town or save file you'll be playing in with some build cheats. Here are a few tutorial links that may help in editing and/or building a dive lot.

Re: Placing Dive Lots in Other Worlds
https://www.carls-sims-4-guide.com/forum/index.php?topic=16588.msg321562#msg321562

SimsVip - Creating Dive Lots
https://simsvip.com/sims-3-island-paradise-guide/creating-dive-lots/

Creating a SCUBA Diving Lot
https://leealeesims3.wordpress.com/2017/08/14/creating-a-scuba-diving-lot/

Karrritz Tutorial - Build a Dive Lot
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xQYREabahSE

Crinrict's article - Sim resets when exploring an underwater cave
https://sims3.crinrict.com/en/2013/06/sim-resets-when-exploring-a-underwater-cave.html 

See the spoiler in this post for more tutorial links on fixing terrain and building dive lots.

✽ Issue: Sunset Valley 2020 - Crashing My Game

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Please read this post if you're game is crashing while loading an SV2020 save file.

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Using Sunset Valley 2020 in Challenges

Players wanting to use Sunset Valley 2020 in Challenges (rulesets and objectives setup by other players) should contact that Challenge's creator and ask for permission to do so.  We also recommend that they have the Challenge creator contact us here via PM if they want to ask any questions about the world(s) proposed for their Challenge.

Sunset Valley 2020 (both Vanilla and Chocolate) were re-creations of an upgraded version of the original Sunset Valley (v7.0 by Naga) that use all Expansions, though items/lots from all expansions aren't placed in the world.

Additionally, SV2020 does not use any custom content or store content that the player doesn't expressly add themselves.

For those reasons, we believe SV2020 to be highly suitable for use in *most* Challenges presented to TS3 players today.  Contact your Challenge creator and suggest they approve it for use in their challenge, or have them contact us to ask questions so they can.
 
 

[Jaga Telesin]

Exclusive Sims in SV2020
There's a few new households added:

Meet the Exclusive Sims of SV2020

  ~ Vanilla Edition

  ~ Chocolate Edition



Jaga Telesin
3 Sun Song Ave

Glenn Lockwood
9 Sun Song Ave
Myrtle house created by MrsFlynn

Nathan James and Yasmine Ferrari
28 Sim Lane
An original SV house, but slightly remodeled by MrsFlynn.

Haskell Family - Brendan, Audry, Joel, Jeremy, Andi
17 Maywood Lane

The Sims above are also in the Chocolate edition, except the Haskell family are at 16 Maywood Lane (old Bunch family house) and Nathan and Yasmine (Vampire) are at 58 Water Lily Lane in the Stylz house created by MrsFlynn

Howie Easton (Fairy) and Sheena E.
91 Landgraab Ave. (Jamie Jolina's old house) - this family is only in the Chocolate edition.

[Jaga Telesin]

- contingency reservation for expansion -

[RainaElf]

thank you for this! just snagged a copy.

[Jaga Telesin]

You're welcome RainaElf.  Looking forward to hearing how you like it after playing.   

[Turjan]

I had a look at these two versions of Sunset Valley, and I really liked what I saw. It's nice to have a version of SV that doesn't stray too far from its original character. Well done! I haven't really played anything yet though. Here are just a few remarks and questions that came up when I looked at the town.

Regarding the FAQ, it actually makes a difference if you use the fixed version of the SV world file with an old save that used the original version. While the routing fixes won't affect the old save, the altered terrain will, which results in buried roads (for example the road to Pinochle Pond or that at the original Science Facility) or height differences between roads and lots with terrain steps. It's better to switch out the world file when loading an old savegame, although this is more an aesthetic issue than a real problem.

Also, the NRaas mod is called Retuner, not Returner.

When I had that quick look at the world, I noticed a couple of minor glitches.

The dive bar has some floating artifacts (only visible from below). These can be removed with the hammer tool in build/buy mode.


At least for me, Sunnyside Strand had lots of floating roofs without supports, one of them glitching into railings:


I noticed the fusion lounge was sitting too low. Was this done because of routing issues? Otherwise, I'll just remove it to the library and replace it.

Regarding the stadium, does this have extra functions compared to the original?

I found the resort hotel already somewhat laggy without people on my somewhat ancient machine. It's looking great though . I have IP, but have never played there. Is it possible to replace all the towers by rugs (not a request, but a question)?

Oh, and is there a list of which residents are new? I haven't really played all worlds I have yet, so I'm not sure about which are new - aside from your simself  .

Anyway, this is all minor stuff, and I really like what I see and am looking forward to playing in this world. This looks like a labor of love  . Thanks!

[Jaga Telesin]

Thanks for the feedback Turjan!  I'll make the minor text corrections, and note in the FAQ that EllaCharmed's assumption about the .world file not altering older saves not being entirely correct.


To answer the other items:

- The Dive bar was done by Joria originally, but I can get in and see about correcting the artifacts.  They shouldn't impair routing at all in the meantime.


- Sunnyside Strand was an add-on property done by HappyASU09, that I didn't take any further except to fix some objects and theme some chairs.  I'll take a deeper look at the architecture and see if it needs fixing or rebuilding.  Mainly it exists in the world for the player to purchase and decorate.


- I see sims visiting the Fusion Lounge in test games, so it should be functional for now.  The slight dip on it is simply how it flattened out.  We can re-visit the lot placement and see if it can't be leveled better.  It won't affect pathing from what I've seen.


- We have a new version of The Royal Paradise Hotel in the works for distribution with SV2020 v2.0 in the future, but I'm confident it's play-worthy now.  I've spent a ton of time tweaking it and implementing subtle changes, but there are also some big ones like basement pool windows with digital fish!  I'll see if I can't make an upload copy of it available in the next few days.  It is a much improved version with less overhead and better pathing, and should run better on older machines.  It's version will simply be labeled v1.1 and it will be a file you can place in your Library folder and directly place in the world after bulldozing the old lot.

And to answer your question about it directly:  yes, you can demolish the Spanish style towers in the lower level and replace them with resort rugs easily.  As long as there's at least one rug or one tower, the resort will function just like you want it to.  More rugs means more visitors and higher profit - don't forget to upgrade them and turn on premium services for guests!


- The Stadium was simply copied in from another EA-Maxis world, and should have comparable functionality to the original.  It stays true to Naga's SV 7.0 version in that regard.


- MrsFlynn and I tossed around the idea of listing all the residents in each town, but it's a lot of information and we really wanted to get the worlds out early this January.  It might be a good project for us to distribute with the SV 2020 2.0 worlds however - I'll talk with her again and see if it's something one of us wants to compile.


We're also working on a website to host the worlds, though this topic will continue to be the primary one for the worlds and supporting them.

Glad to hear you're enjoying what you see!   

[Turjan]

Thank you very much for the answers!

Don't worry about descriptions of all the residents. I recognize those from Bridgeport and from Moonlight Falls, and some of the other names seem vaguely familiar. I was mostly interested in who the completely new ones are.

I reseated the Fusion Lounge:

The offset is 0.45, to save you from some guesswork.

Regarding the Sunnyside Strand, the situation proved to be a bit more complicated. I can see the supports from far away, but they disappear in build mode. At least for me. Weird.

I'm looking forward to seeing your new Resort Hotel. That's good news .

Thanks again.

[Jaga Telesin]

Thanks Turjan.  I should have version 1.1 of the Resort up by tomorrow evening at the latest.  And I'll include the Fusion Lounge height fix in 2.0 to be released later.

I'll still check out Sunnyside Strand, just to see if I can tell how it was constructed and if there are any issues to fix.  Certainly the staircase intersection if nothing else.

If you'd like a little teaser on the Resort revamp, I did an album of some screenshots to share with MrsFlynn..   Enjoy!     https://imgur.com/a/R7phJIu

[Turjan]

Those images are looking very good.

Just a comment on your FAQ changes regarding the different SV worldfiles: I must have not been very clear. The switch to ellacharmed's world doesn't affect routing in old saves, just like you originally quoted. What it changes is some ground elevation data. The lots stay where you placed them originally, but if the world elevation data change, you get lots of small seams, and at some places, the ground will be slightly higher than the roads where one or two lots drag it up. Or, in other words, it just looks ugly. That's why I switch world files when I switch saves. That's easy enough, as you just have to rename the files.

[Jaga Telesin]

Ah right - those seams are what EllaCharmed fixed (among other things).  They show up in regular Sunset Valley games.  Sounds like the .world file changes it so they are visually apparent.  Good to know it doesn't affect routing, I'll edit to note it.

Going to toss The Royal Paradise Hotel v1.1 up in a little bit. 

[Jaga Telesin]

Added a download link tonight for v1.1 of the Royal Paradise Hotel (a resort lot in SV2020).  It is just under the regular SV2020 download links in the main topic.

v1.1 of the resort lot has improved pathing, better room structure on the Entertainment floor, a new pool-viewing room with digital fish windows, some fixes for original author mistakes, and should give overall better performance.

Here's a screenshot album for the Resort.  An older version is already in SV2020's worlds, which this version is meant to replace.

[Jaga Telesin]

As an addendum, MrsFlynn let me know the default TS3 install locations so that people would know where to start if search isn't working (unless they did a custom install path of course):

• C:\Program Files (x86)\Electronic Arts - for the Disc Version
• C:\Program Files (x86)\Origin Games - for the Origin Version

After finding your install location for TS3, you'd want to browse to the folder that holds the original Sunset Valley.world file, typically under:  \The Sims 3\GameData\Shared\NonPackaged\Worlds