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Re: Union Cove - The Forum's World
« Reply #300 on: January 02, 2012, 04:23:54 PM »
Hi, I have "classic" problem.
When I am trying to "save" or "save as"  SIMS 3, Error 12 will appear. I can only  save the game  once - three times (sometime). I guess that is memory problem,
(Low system memory) but what I tested it is not. I disabled Virtual Memory so program was force to use RAM. I had only 1,5 GB of RAM full 1,75 GB was free.
So no problem with full RAM.

I enabled Virtual memory and tryed different values, but without effect.
I set .exe file to use more than 2GB RAM, but without effect.
I also deleted Save Games,Cache ets. withou effect.

-In description "World was built on an average PC, 2.4GHz Intel Core2 Duo, 2GB RAM. It should be playable on the average PC."

So my HW should by ok. :)

-Can anybody tell why this Error 12 will appear and how to fix it? I can not play this neighborhood and some people can, so there have to
be solution. It is really disappointing that I cannot play this neighborhood or any big neighborhood.

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Re: Union Cove - The Forum's World
« Reply #301 on: January 02, 2012, 04:32:11 PM »
The only other EP I have is World Adventures, which is a huge one as far as I can tell, since it practically doubles the loading time for stuff. I'm currently on a new laptop and The Sims is pretty much the only thing I will download on here (with the purpose of playing). So, I'm pretty sure I have a lot of free space on here. When I checked Task Manager, it says 894 MB is free. I'm torn between uninstalling WA, because the family that I've been working on for quite some time has a lot of artifacts/nectars/photos, but UC looks amazing. Hm hm hm.

Check your video card.  If you are using an integrated card instead of an added on video card, that could be your problem.
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« Reply #302 on: January 02, 2012, 05:02:02 PM »
@Joria - I don't know if I did it correctly, but I checked to see if it was and did not see integrated anywhere (lol technologically challenged) so I assume not. It said video memory, so again, I assume it's a video card.

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« Reply #303 on: January 02, 2012, 05:11:08 PM »
@Joria - I don't know if I did it correctly, but I checked to see if it was and did not see integrated anywhere (lol technologically challenged) so I assume not. It said video memory, so again, I assume it's a video card.

If you have integrated video card, then you cannot see the card in your pc because is integrated card. :)

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« Reply #304 on: January 02, 2012, 05:21:48 PM »
Ah, I see. Then I guess I do, ha. Sad day. Could I still play Union Cove with that, if I were to uninstall World Adventures? I'll try it again after I do and what not. Thank you for the answers, I'll probably be done after this one. I can't wait to play in UC, if it's possible! :)

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« Reply #305 on: January 02, 2012, 06:23:09 PM »
Ah, I see. Then I guess I do, ha. Sad day. Could I still play Union Cove with that, if I were to uninstall World Adventures? I'll try it again after I do and what not. Thank you for the answers, I'll probably be done after this one. I can't wait to play in UC, if it's possible! :)

http://www.carls-sims-3-guide.com/unioncove/download.php

"If you do not have all expansion packs installed, download this saved file and extract it to your Documents\Electronic Arts\The Sims 3\Saves folder to load UC."

I guess you can play it without Word Adventures. But you will not have access to stuff from Word Adventures.

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« Reply #306 on: January 02, 2012, 07:37:50 PM »
No, I've gotten that all settled and I've saved that. I just uninstalled World Adventures and tried to get into Union Cove, but again its not loading. Ugh. I don't know if there is anything I can do beside trying it on my desktop, but I won't have much access to that. Does anybody have any solutions that might work? Even with just the base pack, it does not let me load the town :(



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Re: Union Cove - The Forum's World
« Reply #307 on: January 02, 2012, 09:32:28 PM »
My advice is much of a repetition.

1. Remove all MODS and 3rd Party Custom content.
2. Follow directions here http://www.carls-sims-3-guide.com/forum/index.php/topic,463.0.html
3. Try to reinstall.

If that fails:

Repeat Step 1.
2. Follow directions here http://www.carls-sims-3-guide.com/forum/index.php/topic,7507.0.html
Repeat step 3

If that fails:
Repeat step 1
2. Follow directions here http://www.carls-sims-3-guide.com/forum/index.php/topic,4886.0.html
3. Install Base Game and EPs in order ensuring you are fully patched
4. Lower all graphic settings to the lowest
5. Try re-installing the world before any store items or CC

Ensuring that you have updated drivers and basic computer maintenance is also key. If it has been 2 years since you last de-fragmentation and you are saying your game in running slow then well ya lol.

Defrag is important, imagine take a 10x10x10 room and having 10 1x1x1 boxes and laying them on the floor you're not going to have space to move to add anything else but if you stack those boxes ten high along the back wall then you have only used 1/10 of the space. That's basically how a defrag works.

Ok if that doesn't work then I would take a long hard look at your computer specs. Ask here, well actually I would suggest a topic on the technical help board. Give the full specs of your computer and a good screenshot of the error message and I will attempt to help you (as will other techy minded members)

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Re: Union Cove - The Forum's World
« Reply #308 on: January 03, 2012, 12:56:24 AM »
-In description "World was built on an average PC, 2.4GHz Intel Core2 Duo, 2GB RAM. It should be playable on the average PC."

So my HW should by ok. :)

-Can anybody tell why this Error 12 will appear and how to fix it? I can not play this neighborhood and some people can, so there have to
be solution. It is really disappointing that I cannot play this neighborhood or any big neighborhood.

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My HW and mods:
Intel Core 2 Duo E8400 3,00 GHz
Nvidia GTX 260 896MB, Driver Version 285.58
4 GB RAM ( I have 32-Bit system so i can use 3,25 GB)
Windows XP  SP3 32-bit
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+UnionCove ( installed via Sim 3 launcher.)

Downloaded from:
http://www.carls-sims-3-guide.com/unioncove/

Hi Keyz, yes, my PC is having noted configuration. And I also get error12 but, I get it if I set my settings on higher to get some pictures and for being stubborn and not accepting my PC config is hardly managing this huge world. If I set them on low, pause the game before saving, use Save As often and clear cashe files regularly (every time before I start the game), and of course, delete .bad saves, I'm able to play and save without error. I was able to use just "Save" too and at the moment I have around 5 saved files og my dynasty file there, including 2 backup copies.
In world cashe files I noticed that Sim cashe is much bigger than object cashe, almost 6 times bigger, so maybe evicting few families would help handling the world easier.
And lastly, this configuration handled the world in CAW (which is using much more resources than regular game) but it is at the bottom of the configurations that can handle all EP's.
I'd also recommend to try playing without mods specially since your PC is having problems with memory and they are adding to the number of processes run in game, some more than others.
Beside that, use every tip you can find about error 12, including disabling background applications you don't need, authomatic updates etc - Last time I got the error 12 my antivirus was updating it's base. With low config we do have to deal with all of this if we want to play it, but it is worth the effort.

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« Reply #309 on: January 03, 2012, 04:01:31 AM »
While I have been using your excellent guide for the sims for years I've never thought to join your forum until now. The main reason for doing so is to tell you that I absolutely LOVE Union Cove.
I'm pretty much of a custom world junkie always looking for the bigger better world, but I think I have to hang up my land rover because I found the world I want to settle my sims down into. You guys did a remarkable job. The world is lush and green, the oceans endless, the mountains breathtaking. If only I were a sim I would become a castaway in U.C. ;D
I have an intel core i7 cpu 3.07 GHz with 12 GB of ram. Computer is 2 years old so my ATI radeon hd 4850 is getting kind of old but Its more than enough to run this big beautiful world. I have experienced no lag, no save problems of any kind and am sooo happy. Thank you all for the hard work to make us simmers happy.
There is only one little glitch that I noticed in the entire world. The grass on the left corner where the diner is situated bleeds heavily into the roadway depended on camera angle. But I can live with that.
Im so happy that Im not getting sims and horses and cats, etc. stuck on bridges. Thats a problem I've run into with the last 4 custom worlds I've downloaded.  :-\
Again kudos to all of you that had a hand in creating this world. Especially the homes. Ive never seen so many custom beautifully decorated homes in one world. Usually I have to go around fixing up all the houses but I was able to jump right into playing with my sim family!

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« Reply #310 on: January 03, 2012, 05:22:05 AM »
While I have been using your excellent guide for the sims for years I've never thought to join your forum until now. The main reason for doing so is to tell you that I absolutely LOVE Union Cove.
I'm pretty much of a custom world junkie always looking for the bigger better world, but I think I have to hang up my land rover because I found the world I want to settle my sims down into. You guys did a remarkable job. The world is lush and green, the oceans endless, the mountains breathtaking. If only I were a sim I would become a castaway in U.C. ;D
I have an intel core i7 cpu 3.07 GHz with 12 GB of ram. Computer is 2 years old so my ATI radeon hd 4850 is getting kind of old but Its more than enough to run this big beautiful world. I have experienced no lag, no save problems of any kind and am sooo happy. Thank you all for the hard work to make us simmers happy.
There is only one little glitch that I noticed in the entire world. The grass on the left corner where the diner is situated bleeds heavily into the roadway depended on camera angle. But I can live with that.
Im so happy that Im not getting sims and horses and cats, etc. stuck on bridges. Thats a problem I've run into with the last 4 custom worlds I've downloaded.  :-\
Again kudos to all of you that had a hand in creating this world. Especially the homes. Ive never seen so many custom beautifully decorated homes in one world. Usually I have to go around fixing up all the houses but I was able to jump right into playing with my sim family!

This is so good to hear!  Oh, and Welcome to the forum!

I have to give you one heads up about things getting stuck somewhere.  Spiral stairs!  Spiral stairs are a nightmare if you have more than one Sim trying to use them.  I currently have SIX Sims all stamping their feet, waving their arms and cussin' because no one will back up so they all try to use the stairs at the same time and just get angry!  They have been at it for 3 Sim days so far.  So don't throw a party where there are spiral stairs!
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« Reply #311 on: January 03, 2012, 06:06:28 AM »
I'm a definite fan of having all the skill books all at the Blue Fire Cafe. My sim went there to check it out and gained a few levels in Gardening.  ;)
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« Reply #312 on: January 03, 2012, 06:35:00 AM »
This is so good to hear!  Oh, and Welcome to the forum!

I have to give you one heads up about things getting stuck somewhere.  Spiral stairs!  Spiral stairs are a nightmare if you have more than one Sim trying to use them.  I currently have SIX Sims all stamping their feet, waving their arms and cussin' because no one will back up so they all try to use the stairs at the same time and just get angry!  They have been at it for 3 Sim days so far.  So don't throw a party where there are spiral stairs!


Rofl I'll have to remember that although there is a spiral staircase in one of the clubs that my sim is using with no problem. Thanks for the warm welcome glad to be here  :)

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« Reply #313 on: January 03, 2012, 07:50:02 AM »
Nicely done

All of you have made a wonderful job

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« Reply #314 on: January 03, 2012, 08:28:47 AM »
It's nice to see positive reports from folks with beefy PCs. For others who are just downloading, I've updated the download page with some performance tips collected from this thread and the development board. Let me know of any big ones.

@KJSinclair: Good summary post linking some key tech articles. Thanks, I linked that on the page.

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« Reply #315 on: January 03, 2012, 11:25:33 AM »
I'm a definite fan of having all the skill books all at the Blue Fire Cafe. My sim went there to check it out and gained a few levels in Gardening.  ;)

There are? Lol, that was unplanned. I suppose it could be that I don't actually know which bookcase that is that has skill books in.  8)
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« Reply #316 on: January 03, 2012, 11:28:42 AM »
Can I just say, that the house Lilygirl's simself lives in, is so beautiful! The landscaping is just ingenious.

Thanks Gogo! I wanted to do something different than what I thought almost everyone else would do for the mega-rich section of town. So, I built a beautiful Colonial mansion and then figuratively dropped a meteor on it! Landscaping is definitely not my strongest point and this lot took too many hours to count, but I really like how it turned out. I actually had to go back and take out some 75% of the plants on the lot because the loading time was exhausting!
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« Reply #317 on: January 03, 2012, 01:26:36 PM »
I have solved this Error 12 for 32-bit systems.

It is memory problem so it is my mistake  >:(

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Problem: When i saw report from System Explorer i discovered that maximum RAM used in time was about 2.1GB RAM,  so more than 2GB.TS3W.exe can use more than 2GB, but  32-bit system is set tu use 2GB for system process and 2GB for applications. I guess that was the problem. 2GB RAM for applications was reach and that cause error code 12 in sims 3.

I added this "/3GB /USERVA=XXXX"  to boot.ini file and change the default settigs of RAM usage to XXXXMB for applications and rest  for system process .After this i tested SIMS 3 with virtual memory set to: 4989MB-4989MB without problem.I tested the SIMS 3 with virtual memory set to: off so RAM was used more and again withou problem.I both cases  maximum RAM used in time was mored than 2GB.
So i guess that Error 12 is solved for 32-bit systems if you have enough RAM.

Note:If you use incorrec value for /USERVA=XXXX , it may cause graphical anomalies in games.I used /USERVA=2800 and in some games i had graphical anomalies.You have to use value so that RAM which left for the system will be greater than RAM of your Graphic Card.
I have GTX 260 896MB and 4GB RAM.When i right click on My Computer, than left click on preferences i can see that i can use only 3,25GB.So i set /USERVA=2200. 3,25GB-2GB=1,25GB-200MB=1,05GB which is more than 896MB on my Graphic Card.I have 200MB more for applications and still have 1GB RAM for system.
This 200MB have eliminated Error 12 on my PC.

I do not know why this have to be exactly like this, but it works! I do not havy any graphical anomalies so far.

+ For less lags you should Turn off: Virtual memory and set DisablePagingExecutive=1
You can set DisablePagingExecutive in Windows Registry [HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SYSTEM\CurrentControlSet\Control\Session Manager\Memory Management] -> double clic on  DisablePagingExecutive  and set value to 1.
Restart PC and system will not use paging.

After restart check [HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SYSTEM\CurrentControlSet\Control\Session Manager\Memory Management]
LargeSystemCache.It should be set to 0. If not set it to 0. And restart.

This two things will provide less lags,swaps caused by HDD activity and paging from RAM when playing.I did quick test and it helped alot. :)

This is exact guide for windows xp -32 bit.If you have different system, you should check what this pararamets exacly does in your system and where they are located. What i check it is almost the same :)

And ofcourse you should have enought RAM for this tweak.

Source:
http://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/library/cc959492.aspx
http://technet.microsoft.com/cs-cz/library/cc784562(WS.10).aspx

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Some data:
I was testing on some of the largest lot in neiborhood.I guess it is the lot where live 2 SIMS and about 7 cats?!
Settings:


Test one:
Virtual memory set: 4989MB-4989MB
TS3W.exe about 1.5GB
Max RAM used about 2.1 GB

Test two:
Virtual memory set: off
TS3W.exe 1.7
Max RAM used about 2.2 GB

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My HW and mods:
Intel Core 2 Duo E8400 3,00 GHz
Nvidia GTX 260 896MB, Driver Version 285.58
4 GB RAM ( I have 32-Bit system so i can use 3,25 GB)
Windows XP  SP3 32-bit

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Source:
http://support.microsoft.com/kb/316739
http://blogs.technet.com/b/askperf/archive/2007/02/23/memory-management-101.aspx
http://blogs.technet.com/b/askperf/archive/2007/03/23/memory-management-demystifying-3gb.aspx

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« Reply #318 on: January 03, 2012, 01:40:37 PM »
Thank you Keyz, that is very detailed report! Just a little too detailed, as I had to remove the names of mods you mentioned. Please be more carefull in future as it is not allowed to name mods in this forum. Please read the forum rules for more information, link is in my signature.

About your test - it is great you find the solution! It means that those with more than 2 gb of RAM can change the settings in system and asign more than 2gb of  RAM to applications instead of limiting it on 2, and hopefully it would prevent the error 12.

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« Reply #319 on: January 03, 2012, 02:52:46 PM »
Thank you Keyz, that is very detailed report! Just a little too detailed, as I had to remove the names of mods you mentioned. Please be more carefull in future as it is not allowed to name mods in this forum. Please read the forum rules for more information, link is in my signature.

About your test - it is great you find the solution! It means that those with more than 2 gb of RAM can change the settings in system and asign more than 2gb of  RAM to applications instead of limiting it on 2, and hopefully it would prevent the error 12.
Sorry for mods names, i guess it might be important. If Error 12 is memory problem due low RAM it will help if you have 32-bit system.

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« Reply #320 on: January 03, 2012, 04:32:05 PM »
My computer keeps saying I don't have all the items for the saved game. I just put in Pets today and haven't tried again after trying 3 times before. I thought it was supposed to be compatible with even the base game?

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« Reply #321 on: January 03, 2012, 04:53:42 PM »
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« Reply #322 on: January 03, 2012, 05:05:42 PM »
There are? Lol, that was unplanned. I suppose it could be that I don't actually know which bookcase that is that has skill books in.  8)
The Book Corral and the one that has Glass have skill books at the library and you placed the glass one at the hangout and it had all the books! I was quite surprised!
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« Reply #323 on: January 03, 2012, 05:11:40 PM »
There are? Lol, that was unplanned. I suppose it could be that I don't actually know which bookcase that is that has skill books in.  8)

There are four bookshelves that have the skill books.
The Book Coral, The Sturdy Gurdy Bookshelf (came with Pets), The Tower of Much Knowledge (a store item) and the Penningway Bookshelf.

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« Reply #324 on: January 03, 2012, 10:11:16 PM »
I have to say once again. This is a great world. You guys did a bang up job. the houses are WOW!  ;D  I've had one of my sims going around meeting everyone. I love the names of the houses and stories are truly one of kind. One of my favorite places to visit is The Ratcliff Hall Country Club. It is wonderful. Thank you once again for your time and efforts you have put into this project.