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« Reply #25 on: March 14, 2012, 12:15:44 AM »
I've got a question! Can you wish the same wish more than once? I'm thinking mainly of the "More Wishes" wish...

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« Reply #26 on: March 14, 2012, 12:23:21 AM »
Genies are occults, and a Sim can only have one occult status.  Thus, you'll never be able to have a vampire/genie.  They'll only ever be one or the other.

When I first started playing Sims 3 (shortly after Generations came out) I did manage to crossbreed a vampire with her IF, resulting in vampire children who could transform into IFs. I was using a few mods at the time, though, so that may have had something to do with it.



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« Reply #27 on: March 14, 2012, 12:33:54 AM »
When I first started playing Sims 3 (shortly after Generations came out) I did manage to crossbreed a vampire with her IF, resulting in vampire children who could transform into IFs. I was using a few mods at the time, though, so that may have had something to do with it.

That has to be it.  It would have to have been something with expanded traits.  Occult status is determined by a hidden trait that gives them all the abilities of the occult type, and there is only one slot for that.  Without such alteration, the game cannot assign one sim two occult statuses.  It's just not possible with how the game is originally coded.  That's why when a vampire sleeps in a Cursed Sarcophagus of the Kings it doesn't turn into a mummy.  Instead, one random trait is changed to "Evil." 

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« Reply #28 on: March 14, 2012, 01:10:00 AM »
That has to be it.  It would have to have been something with expanded traits.  Occult status is determined by a hidden trait that gives them all the abilities of the occult type, and there is only one slot for that.  Without such alteration, the game cannot assign one sim two occult statuses.  It's just not possible with how the game is originally coded.  That's why when a vampire sleeps in a Cursed Sarcophagus of the Kings it doesn't turn into a mummy.  Instead, one random trait is changed to "Evil."

One of my obviously vampire children just rolled a wish to make the house spotlessly sparkling (or whatever it is that Genies can do). He doesn't have any genie abilities, but most occult abilities don't show up until teen or YA.

I know it isn't possible to turn one type of occult into another (as in turning an IF into a vampire, or a vampire into a mummy), but I'm relatively certain that crossbreeding allows more than one occult status. I'm currently running a mod-free game, so it wouldn't be anything to do with that this time.

Edit: Okay, perhaps I spoke too soon. This sim seems to just be odd. He's still a vampire and can take plasma packs from the fridge, but his motive bars are all still green. He doesn't have any genie abilities, even though he rolled that wish to use one. Perhaps because I used testingcheats to age him up to YA? Exiting the game didn't change anything, nor did moving him to another house via edit town. He's got me stumped.

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« Reply #29 on: March 14, 2012, 03:57:59 AM »
I know it isn't possible to turn one type of occult into another (as in turning an IF into a vampire, or a vampire into a mummy), but I'm relatively certain that crossbreeding allows more than one occult status. I'm currently running a mod-free game, so it wouldn't be anything to do with that this time.

As I said, there is only a single slot to hold the hidden traits needed to have occult abilities.  Passing down two hidden traits to a single slot simply isn't possible without the use of a mod to expand the number of trait slots.  It's possible, I suppose, that they might have changed how occults work, but if this has happened I've never heard about it...and I'm absolutely certain that this is something I would have heard about.

Edit: Okay, perhaps I spoke too soon. This sim seems to just be odd. He's still a vampire and can take plasma packs from the fridge, but his motive bars are all still green. He doesn't have any genie abilities, even though he rolled that wish to use one. Perhaps because I used testingcheats to age him up to YA? Exiting the game didn't change anything, nor did moving him to another house via edit town. He's got me stumped.

The situation you describe is bizarre to be sure.

Now, I can see a Sim getting a wish that they can't actually complete...the game does weird things sometimes.  However, the fact that he can actually take plasma packs from the fridge suggests that he has the "Vampire" hidden trait.  That's one of the abilities that it gives.  Does he have any other Vampire only interactions?  I.E. Can he consume the plasma packs without becoming ill?  Can he hunt or drink plasma directly from other Sims?  Does he smolder in sunlight?

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« Reply #30 on: March 14, 2012, 06:33:49 AM »
Now, I can see a Sim getting a wish that they can't actually complete...the game does weird things sometimes.  However, the fact that he can actually take plasma packs from the fridge suggests that he has the "Vampire" hidden trait.  That's one of the abilities that it gives.  Does he have any other Vampire only interactions?  I.E. Can he consume the plasma packs without becoming ill?  Can he hunt or drink plasma directly from other Sims?  Does he smolder in sunlight?

When he drinks plasma packs, he doesn't get the nauseous moodlet, but he does vomit some time later. He smolders in the sunlight, but can't hunt, and as far as I saw, he couldn't try to drink from another sim. He still had the option (albeit greyed out) to ask his father to turn him into a vampire. Seems like he got the downsides to being a vampire without much in the way of benefits. I didn't check his skilling speed; though, as toddlers, I know at least one of that set of triplets was learning xylophone at an alarming rate.

And I've occasionally seen him very briefly use the genie run animation (purple cloud) before his vampire run kicks in. It's like the game got confused with him!

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« Reply #31 on: March 14, 2012, 06:54:10 AM »
When he drinks plasma packs, he doesn't get the nauseous moodlet, but he does vomit some time later. He smolders in the sunlight, but can't hunt, and as far as I saw, he couldn't try to drink from another sim. He still had the option (albeit greyed out) to ask his father to turn him into a vampire. Seems like he got the downsides to being a vampire without much in the way of benefits. I didn't check his skilling speed; though, as toddlers, I know at least one of that set of triplets was learning xylophone at an alarming rate.

And I've occasionally seen him very briefly use the genie run animation (purple cloud) before his vampire run kicks in. It's like the game got confused with him!

Well, it seems you managed somehow to succesfully crossbreed two species.
I recall one situation around september last year where another person was able to do that: crossbreeding three creatures: a mummy with a immaginary friend which later died and came back as a Mummyfied Immaginary Friend Ghost, with all the benefits of all three.
The downside however is that when you move the sim to the bin and back into a family he looses two of his occult traits, random I thought.

Could you perhaps test this (without saving) to see what will happen to your crossbreed?



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« Reply #32 on: March 14, 2012, 01:48:26 PM »
Well, it seems you managed somehow to succesfully crossbreed two species.
I recall one situation around september last year where another person was able to do that: crossbreeding three creatures: a mummy with a immaginary friend which later died and came back as a Mummyfied Immaginary Friend Ghost, with all the benefits of all three.
The downside however is that when you move the sim to the bin and back into a family he looses two of his occult traits, random I thought.

Could you perhaps test this (without saving) to see what will happen to your crossbreed?

Both saving him to the library through Edit Town and saving him to the bin through a mirror fixed his "missing" vampire abilities. He can now hunt and skill quickly, and plasma doesn't make him sick. He does still occasionally genie float when he's idling, but no genie powers are available on him or the house. Also, his motive bars are still green, and when I created him in a new file from the sim bin, he had a normal lifespan until he stood out in the sun long enough to smolder. So, it looks like a superficial crossbreed.

Didn't mean to hijack the thread.  :-\

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« Reply #33 on: March 15, 2012, 07:17:21 AM »
Both saving him to the library through Edit Town and saving him to the bin through a mirror fixed his "missing" vampire abilities. He can now hunt and skill quickly, and plasma doesn't make him sick. He does still occasionally genie float when he's idling, but no genie powers are available on him or the house. Also, his motive bars are still green, and when I created him in a new file from the sim bin, he had a normal lifespan until he stood out in the sun long enough to smolder. So, it looks like a superficial crossbreed.

Didn't mean to hijack the thread.  :-\

Thank you for this testing. This is amazing.

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« Reply #34 on: March 15, 2012, 11:42:29 AM »
I've got a question! Can you wish the same wish more than once? I'm thinking mainly of the "More Wishes" wish...

The "More Wishes" wish gives you a single wish, which replaces the wish you expended wishing for more wishes.  So wishing it multiple times wouldn't do you any good; wish it 100 times, and you'd still end up with the number of wishes you started with. ;)

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« Reply #35 on: March 17, 2012, 05:30:17 PM »
I have two genies who had twins. The strange thing with these twins now grown up is that they are genies too but they also can burn things.
I cannot edit those twins in CAS.

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Re: Genie!
« Reply #36 on: March 17, 2012, 10:30:36 PM »
My genie just turned into a Young Adult, and suddenly her Lifetime Wish disappeared when she achieved it, instead of completing...so no points for me, and an empty box where it should be.

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« Reply #37 on: March 18, 2012, 07:05:57 AM »
My genie just turned into a Young Adult, and suddenly her Lifetime Wish disappeared when she achieved it, instead of completing...so no points for me, and an empty box where it should be.

I think there are multiple problems with LTW. I had a sim from who I couldnt change the LTW S well. I dont want to go offtopic here but it seems to be a Showtime thing.

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« Reply #38 on: March 18, 2012, 08:13:36 AM »
I play with my first genie. It is a lot of fun. I let her banish a sim I don't like and she go poof! I like the perfect food and that she can clean my sim and the whole house!

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« Reply #39 on: March 19, 2012, 03:46:08 PM »
My genie just turned into a Young Adult, and suddenly her Lifetime Wish disappeared when she achieved it, instead of completing...so no points for me, and an empty box where it should be.

Did they achieve the LTW?  This often happens to me when a Sim completes one, but I get the points for it anyways.

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« Reply #40 on: March 19, 2012, 06:36:30 PM »
Today I give my genie plastic sugery! I'm glad about that because they kind of have generic features.


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« Reply #41 on: March 19, 2012, 06:57:12 PM »
Apparently the blue color isn't always over ruling when it comes to genetics. Never underestimate the power of the dark side as the pure black skin color of my Grim Reaper completely got inherited by his daughter.
She got all the genie tricks as well. The same as the light blue mood bars.

Jeez, I love genies. With their powers they make up for excellent house maids with their "poof and   dirt blows away", they summon the best spices out of thin air without a single cooking skill not traits and they can banish sims, perhaps even burglers to the other side of town. They can do all that while saving up two trait slots where otherwise Natural Cook and Brave must have been added, to get those abilities.

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« Reply #42 on: March 19, 2012, 08:37:50 PM »
I am still trying to figure out why the Genie's get the "burn something option".  Weird.  I too love the genie's. :)  I also tried mixing vampire and genie, genie over-rides.  Would be cool to at least get a blue vampire, lol.
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« Reply #43 on: March 20, 2012, 02:30:03 PM »
Jeez, I love genies. With their powers they make up for excellent house maids with their "poof and the dirt blows away", they summon the best spices out of thing air without a single cooking skill not traits and they can vanish sims, perhaps even butlers to the other side of town. They can do all that while saving up two traits slots where otherwise Natural Cook Brave must have been, to add those abilities.
Oh, I need to see that!  I guess I'll stop focusing on gigs and go make friends with a genie....  ;)



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« Reply #44 on: March 20, 2012, 05:24:32 PM »
If you banish a Sim, that Sim will appear somehere at a corner on your map. That explains why paparazzi keep coming back.
If you want to know the exact spot, just let the genie banish on of your own sims while that Sim got selected with the right mousebutton so the game will focus on it.

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« Reply #45 on: March 20, 2012, 09:08:46 PM »
I just wanted to add, that according to SimsVIP, there is a fourth way to get a genie.  When you give a legendary performance, there is a chance a fan will send you a magic lamp.    http://simsvip.com/?page_id=7472  The genie section is a little more than half way down.  Just wanted to point it out incase it needs to be added to the guide.

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« Reply #46 on: March 21, 2012, 02:27:31 AM »
I just wanted to add, that according to SimsVIP, there is a fourth way to get a genie.  When you give a legendary performance, there is a chance a fan will send you a magic lamp.    http://simsvip.com/?page_id=7472  The genie section is a little more than half way down.  Just wanted to point it out incase it needs to be added to the guide.

We're aware of this.  But until someone successfully does this here, we consider this information to be unconfirmed.

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« Reply #47 on: March 21, 2012, 03:00:30 PM »
I have a female genie gotten at the catacombs.  She has had two babies.  They both are human colored but have the blue lines for their needs.  The toddler just grew up to child and she has the power to clean the baby from another room.  I was bummed that they weren't blue though.  It is fun playing with the genie.  I just bought a lamp so I will be getting another one.  I am tired of toddler training but it is fun to see what they do.  My first one did absolutely nothing as far as play or learning skills.  When she had nothing to do she played with the stuffed toy in her inventory.  She NEVER touched another skill object or toy and I had them all over.  I wish I had deleted the stuffed toy from the inventory to see what she would have done.  I have NO idea where that stuffed toy came from as I never put it in the inventory.  She had it when she aged up from baby to toddler.  A family of genies sure would be fun. 

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« Reply #48 on: March 21, 2012, 09:36:50 PM »
I am tired of toddler training but it is fun to see what they do.  My first one did absolutely nothing as far as play or learning skills.  When she had nothing to do she played with the stuffed toy in her inventory.  She NEVER touched another skill object or toy and I had them all over.  I wish I had deleted the stuffed toy from the inventory to see what she would have done.  I have NO idea where that stuffed toy came from as I never put it in the inventory.  She had it when she aged up from baby to toddler.
Do you have Generations?  It sounds like your toddler had the Imaginary Friend Doll. 

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« Reply #49 on: March 22, 2012, 11:34:23 AM »
Oh yes I do have Generations. I had no idea there even was an imaginary doll.  LOL  I haven't played with the toddlers much this last year or so.  I bet that is it.  That is ALL she wants to do.  She plays with that and NOTHING else and sings and sings.  Its cute but now she is way behind.  I decided to just let her do her thing and see what happens.  Plus I've been trying to get genies so it was easy to ignore her and let her play.  She has the artistic trait so I expected her to do something!  The second genie baby is doing the same thing.  She is new to toddler though so maybe she will move on.  LOL