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Offline TheGoat

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Are planters necessary?
« on: February 14, 2015, 05:32:20 PM »
I didn't realize until recently that you could plant seeds in the ground. Other than buying seed packets, do planters offer any advantage at all?

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Re: Are planters necessary?
« Reply #1 on: February 14, 2015, 11:30:45 PM »
Mainly for looks although the small planters can be placed on flooring.  So you can have a sort of greenhouse.  The large planters have to be placed on non-covered ground.  I've still managed to make an indoor greenhouse using the sunken room method so the ground is exposed for planting.  With the medium to tall walls, you can even accommodate trees.



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Re: Are planters necessary?
« Reply #2 on: April 08, 2015, 05:14:09 PM »
I didn't realize until recently that you could plant seeds in the ground. Other than buying seed packets, do planters offer any advantage at all?

For me it seems it takes less time to do gardening tasks because you have four plants very close together.  You also have fewer puddles on the ground.  Puddles make it so you can't put anything where they are so no added plants can be put on their spot.
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Re: Are planters necessary?
« Reply #3 on: April 08, 2015, 07:11:09 PM »
Also if your sim is too poor to buy a computer, you can order seeds from the planter itself.
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Re: Are planters necessary?
« Reply #4 on: April 08, 2015, 08:25:32 PM »
I've been wondering if the planters made on the woodworking table differ from the ones bought in Buy Mode.

The Buy Mode planters' description includes the line "+Gardening skill."  A handmade planter does not have this line.
Same goes for bought violins/guitar (+Fun) versus handmade violins/guitar (no +Fun description).
I guess the descriptions are just informational, since sims can still level their skills tending plants in handmade planters or playing handmade instruments (though I didn't check their fun meter yet).

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Re: Are planters necessary?
« Reply #5 on: June 16, 2015, 09:35:11 PM »
VERY belated answer, but if I understood the tuning files correctly:

- Pots and planters make plants spawn fruit faster. Might be as much as 50% faster.
- There should be no difference between purchased and crafted planters.

Didn't test it in game, though.

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Re: Are planters necessary?
« Reply #6 on: June 17, 2015, 12:03:12 AM »
Wow! That puts a whole different spiel to planters.
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Re: Are planters necessary?
« Reply #7 on: June 17, 2015, 01:11:14 AM »
VERY belated answer, but if I understood the tuning files correctly:

- Pots and planters make plants spawn fruit faster. Might be as much as 50% faster.
- There should be no difference between purchased and crafted planters.

Didn't test it in game, though.
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Re: Are planters necessary?
« Reply #8 on: June 17, 2015, 02:40:49 PM »
Wow, I so have to try this!

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« Reply #9 on: June 17, 2015, 02:58:39 PM »
This is a very good thing to know.  Thanks for coming and sharing that with us.

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Re: Are planters necessary?
« Reply #10 on: July 25, 2015, 09:17:53 AM »
VERY belated answer, but if I understood the tuning files correctly:

- Pots and planters make plants spawn fruit faster. Might be as much as 50% faster.
- There should be no difference between purchased and crafted planters.

Didn't test it in game, though.

This works I had a lemon tree not in a planter and it wasn't growing very fast I put it in a planter and it grew

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« Reply #11 on: August 20, 2015, 01:31:45 PM »
I just ran a test in which I determined whether planters and pots were helpful in having plants produce fruit faster.  I timed an apple tree's growth to adulthood, and from adulthood to first harvest, in planters, pots, and straight in the ground.  I found that the planters and pots didn't change the time of the plant to reach adulthood, and shaved off a very small amount of time (0.76%, or a little under half an hour) from adulthood until first harvest.

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« Reply #12 on: August 20, 2015, 05:05:30 PM »
Out of interest have you timed different plants or just the apple tree? I'm sure it seems as though the more bush like plants (herbs veggies etc) produce faster once fully grown and had a first harvest in a planter.
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Re: Are planters necessary?
« Reply #13 on: August 20, 2015, 05:12:17 PM »
@Playalot The only one I timed was the apple tree.  Does it also seem to you that the more bushy plants have a faster first harvest, or only the second harvest and later?  Have you noticed it with any bushy plants or type of bushy plant in particular?

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« Reply #14 on: August 20, 2015, 05:30:40 PM »
I thought that once a plant has been harvested that if they are in a planter then the time between subsequent harvests seems reduced. But I've never tested it... just from game play and to be honest usually all the harvesting just gets annoying after a while as my sims inventories get so full between plants from GF and crystals...
The other thing that has just occurred to me... is that most of my gardeners recently have the green thumb reward trait. Umm.. so, yeah, might be getting the results from that and thinking it came from the planters/pots.  :-\
Now I'm all curious and this can only mean one thing... testing time! Now look what you've gone and started ClayMask!  ;)
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Re: Are planters necessary?
« Reply #15 on: August 20, 2015, 05:33:53 PM »
Super green thumb does cut the growing time and time until harvest in half for apple trees.  I'm really interested to hear what your planters and pots test result is.

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« Reply #16 on: August 20, 2015, 05:40:28 PM »
K then, I'll make a brand new sim up and see what happens. I'll post back later today as I'm not at my PC right now.

As a side issue, have you seen the wish to 'revive a dead plant'? One of my dynasty sims has that wish a lot and there is detail saying you can revive a dead plant using twigs.... which you get from harvesting. I'm assuming it's something that's coded in for a future but as of now uninstalled element of game play... perhaps this coding that DarkWalker saw re: planters etc is too.
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Re: Are planters necessary?
« Reply #17 on: August 20, 2015, 06:35:36 PM »
@Playalot I have seen that wish.  What I remembered it saying was that the twigs can be gotten from trimming bonsai trees. Or maybe it was a different component that was required for reviving a dead plant that was gotten from bonsai trees, I'm not sure.  Were there two types of components needed for that? I haven't tried trimming bonsai trees to produce components for plant revival.

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« Reply #18 on: August 20, 2015, 11:30:48 PM »
So this may have been updated, but last I checked you revive a dead plant simply by clicking on it and spending money...  easiest way to kill a plant is to take too many clippings from it.  I did it a few times.  If I remember correctly, it stays the same quality, you just have to spend 100 Simoleons to revive it.
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Re: Are planters necessary?
« Reply #19 on: August 21, 2015, 02:47:55 AM »
@ClayMask ... That's it! Bonsai tree... I knew it had something to do with gardening, just couldn't remember!  ::) There is a  small bundles of twigs when you use the bb.showhiddenobjects cheat but nothing to actually do with them yet re:game play. Although when sims play with a bonfire they often throw stones or the twig bundle into the flames.

@dethdukk, this is something different to that. So yeah, at the moment you revive a dead plant by just clicking on it if it's wild and like you say if it's a plant in your garden.
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Re: Are planters necessary?
« Reply #20 on: August 21, 2015, 11:05:34 PM »
@ClayMask  all my timings seem to be a bit different from the guide that Carl originally wrote so I'm going to spend a bit more time having a look at it all. I think I'll do a factory reset and take my current saves folder out (store it on the desk top) and start a new game from scratch so I can be sure it's not CC or a corrupt save or something that is mucking up on the timings. I'll eventually PM you with the results.  :)
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Re: Are planters necessary?
« Reply #21 on: August 22, 2015, 12:33:27 AM »
@Playalot My apple tree timing was different than his guide too.  I think the guide is either outdated, was done with super green thumb, or both.

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« Reply #22 on: August 22, 2015, 01:16:55 AM »
What quality of plants are you guys using?  It's possible that normal plants grow/produce slower than higher level plants.
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« Reply #23 on: August 22, 2015, 01:44:00 AM »
What quality of plants are you guys using?  It's possible that normal plants grow/produce slower than higher level plants.
Normal quality.  It's possible, but I've never heard of anything like that or noticed it.  I'll see what Carl says when he reads about my observation on growth times.

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« Reply #24 on: August 22, 2015, 02:18:28 AM »
Oh that's interesting ClayMask!  I'm using normal quality of plant too by the way as that would be the norm! lol  ;) I'll do some more on this tomorrow and see what happens.

@dethdukk, that would be quite cool if that was the case... not sure it works like that though. Trouble is EA keep tweaking and changing stuff without putting all the small details in the patch notes so things change and nobody notices it until ... well, someone stumbles across the change and thinks its a bit weird.   ::) (Did you like my very technical explanation? *snort*)
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