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Re: Take This Challenge...It's a Steal!
« Reply #45 on: September 30, 2018, 11:41:29 PM »
By the time he reached Adulthood, young Robin Hood's total household funds were $132,109.  The proceeds from his thefts will be donated to charity.

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Re: Take This Challenge...It's a Steal!
« Reply #46 on: October 01, 2018, 07:08:38 AM »
This event is now closed and everyone is free to discuss strategy. Well done to all 21 participants and a special tip of the "stolen" hat to the winner, GlazeyLady. :)



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Re: Take This Challenge...It's a Steal!
« Reply #47 on: October 01, 2018, 09:25:31 AM »
Congratulations, GlazeyLady 8).  It will be awesome to see your strategy, later!
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Re: Take This Challenge...It's a Steal!
« Reply #48 on: October 01, 2018, 09:38:57 AM »
Thank you @Metropolis Man and @coolsim9999999.  And congrats to everyone who completed the challenge.

Key parts of my strategy:
Add missing EA lots - Dust Bowl has a very expensive TV, Willow Museum of Fine Arts has a Suit of Armor and a couple of expensive paintings. Spa gives opportunity to learn wellness without buying anything - for teleporting at the Von Haunt Estate to get expensive paintings.

Join Good Timers to get Rally the Troops; create Klepto Club with Swipe Objects as a club activity - this gives you the ability to swipe any object during a club gathering, regardless of your mischief skill.

Switch around aspirations to get 2500 easy Satisfaction points -  Good Vampire and Master Vampire aspiration tasks (Search for information, Read Vampire Lore 1, Get to level 3 in Vampire Lore) provide most of these; Buy Shameless and Always Welcome.  Shameless prevents the negative impact of getting caught stealing - your sim can literally steal the computer another sim is using and have no negative impact.  Iím not sure if Always Welcome helps, but it seemed like a good idea.

Hang out at the Landgraabs and the spa (placed across the street from Springscape).  This was to encourage the game to move sims into Yuma Heights and Springscape.  I got this from Ricalynnís 2016 challenge strategy.  Iím not sure how much it helps - the game did move families into both of those houses, but sims were also moved into most of the other empty houses.

Let Belle wander autonomously between steals - when a club has Swipe Objects as a club activity and the club gathering is active, sims in the club will steal objects autonomously.  Iím not sure of the specifics of how this works, but based on what I saw, hereís what I think:
-  The autonomous steal action isnít triggered for any sim you are looking at or for any item you are looking at - I base this on the fact that I only saw sims stealing autonomously twice and both times I just happened to be moving around and caught them already in the act.
-  A sim can steal autonomously even with the cooldown in effect, and the duration of the cooldown does not increase.
-  A sim can autonomously steal an item they are not close to, and the item isnít necessarily gone after they steal it.  For example, while I was watching the silver Suit of Armor on the second floor of the Oasis Springs museum (to prevent other sims from stealing it) my sim was on the first floor and autonomously stole a gold Suit of Armor - I only knew it happened because I got the message for it.  There is no gold suit of armor on the first floor of that museum, so apparently they can steal something that is on the lot even if they arenít near it, and the one they steal might be a variation of the one thatís actually there.  She also got two Viva More of La Landcape paintings from the Villarealís, and they had different frame colors.  In this case, I didnít get a message that sheíd stolen it - I only knew when I took her back home and checked her household inventory.  I scrolled through the messages and there was only the one message about the painting.
- I didnít take her home to sell her items every time she stole, so I donít know exactly where the other extra items came from.   Most of items were the same as the expensive things I had her stealing, but she did end up with some chairs, 2 Blooming Beauty Wall Paintings, and a variety of decorative items that I didnít instruct her to steal.  I'm not sure but she may have also gotten one more computer than I had her steal.  Most of the time the items didnít say where they were stolen from (that includes the ones I told her to steal).  However, in a practice game (and this is how I initially discovered the autonomous stealing) she stole 2 Virtuoso Violins from the Goths - they both did indicate they were stolen from the Goths.
- After finishing the actual challenge, out of curiosity, I checked the household inventories of some of the Klepto Club members to see how much theyíd stolen.  (Membership changed throughout the game, but these members were each in the club for a period of time.) 
Mila Mulch stole 23 items worth $22,100
Mortimer and Bella Goth stole 13 items worth $9,715
Alice Spencer-Kim stole 29 items worth $9,820
Nancy Landgraab stole 26 items worth $11,985
Luna Villareal stole 20 items worth $8,745
Bjorn Bjergsen stole 23 items worth $18,720

Sorry this post isn't very easy to read - only have a few minutes before work.  I'll clean it up later.  ;)

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Re: Take This Challenge...It's a Steal!
« Reply #49 on: October 01, 2018, 10:52:24 AM »
Congratulations @GlazeyLady !

(Shameless would have helped that one time I checked the room, and missed the guy asleep in bed.  Always Welcome let me just hang out in random houses for hours while I stole their stuff, cooked their food, and slept in their beds.)

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Re: Take This Challenge...It's a Steal!
« Reply #50 on: October 01, 2018, 11:29:30 AM »
Congratulations to all.

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Re: Take This Challenge...It's a Steal!
« Reply #51 on: October 01, 2018, 12:27:09 PM »
You're welcome Glazeylady.  Great and detailed strategy!  I didn't realize that the Goths had two $15,000 violins 8).  I did get Cassandra's violin by playing the piano in that area, and she'd come up and play her violin, and then, leave it unattended.
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Re: Take This Challenge...It's a Steal!
« Reply #52 on: October 01, 2018, 06:51:00 PM »
You're welcome Glazeylady.  Great and detailed strategy!  I didn't realize that the Goths had two $15,000 violins 8).  I did get Cassandra's violin by playing the piano in that area, and she'd come up and play her violin, and then, leave it unattended.

The Goths don't have two violins - only one.  When my sim came home with two, both saying they were from the Goths, I started experimenting and trying to figure out how that happened.  There were multiple times, in practice and in the challenge game, when my sim "acquired" something on her own, and then was still able to steal it when I told her to - like when she got two Suits of Armor from the museum in Oasis Springs, even though there's really only one there. 

I'm really interested to know if anyone else had this happen - it only occurred for me when I let my sim wander unwatched, in an active club event with "Steal Objects" as a club activity.

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Re: Take This Challenge...It's a Steal!
« Reply #53 on: October 01, 2018, 06:53:55 PM »
You're welcome Glazeylady.  Great and detailed strategy!  I didn't realize that the Goths had two $15,000 violins 8).  I did get Cassandra's violin by playing the piano in that area, and she'd come up and play her violin, and then, leave it unattended.

The Goths don't have two violins - only one.  When my sim came home with two, both saying they were from the Goths, I started experimenting and trying to figure out how that happened.  There were multiple times, in practice and in the challenge game, when my sim "acquired" something on her own, and then was still able to steal it when I told her to - like when she got two Suits of Armor from the museum in Oasis Springs, even though there's really only one there. 

I'm really interested to know if anyone else had this happen - it only occurred for me when I let my sim wander unwatched, in an active club event with "Steal Objects" as a club activity.

Yeah, then it sounds as if the club activity has a chance of duping something you swipe. Wow. That is amazing. I had no clue.

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Re: Take This Challenge...It's a Steal!
« Reply #54 on: October 01, 2018, 09:05:42 PM »
You're welcome Glazeylady.  Great and detailed strategy!  I didn't realize that the Goths had two $15,000 violins 8).  I did get Cassandra's violin by playing the piano in that area, and she'd come up and play her violin, and then, leave it unattended.

The Goths don't have two violins - only one.  When my sim came home with two, both saying they were from the Goths, I started experimenting and trying to figure out how that happened.  There were multiple times, in practice and in the challenge game, when my sim "acquired" something on her own, and then was still able to steal it when I told her to - like when she got two Suits of Armor from the museum in Oasis Springs, even though there's really only one there. 

I'm really interested to know if anyone else had this happen - it only occurred for me when I let my sim wander unwatched, in an active club event with "Steal Objects" as a club activity.

Yeah, then it sounds as if the club activity has a chance of duping something you swipe. Wow. That is amazing. I had no clue.

I don't think it's duplicating what you steal, because often it was items that I didn't tell her to steal, so she only ended up with 1 of them in her inventory.  I think it just lets them swipe something as long as it's on the lot - for example, she swiped a chair from Springscape that was worth about $300.  I didn't tell her to swipe one of those, and she only had the one in her inventory.  It does seem to be limited to items that are actually on the lot though.

The weird thing is, there seems to be two different things going on:
1 - sometimes the item is a variation of the one on the lot (like the different frame colors and the different colors of the Suit of Armor) and the one on the lot is still there - the game recognizes it as happened but it didn't really happen - like when your sim gets a "phone call" from a sim, but that sim is actually on your lot and not on the phone or when you get a message that your sim swiped something, and the sim is at school (which isn't actually a lot and therefore has no items for stealing).
2 - sometimes the sim actually takes the item and it is gone (like the Blooming Beauty wall painting in the screenshot below).
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This is the kind of thing that really bugs me when I can't figure it out.  :D  It's times like this that I wish I could look in the code and see what's really going on.


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Re: Take This Challenge...It's a Steal!
« Reply #55 on: October 01, 2018, 09:14:15 PM »
I love your Sim's costume/outfit Glazeylady!  I thought the Goth's only had 1 violin.  Thanks for clarifying that.  Your explanation of that and picture with writing to explain stuff is really awesome 8).
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Re: Take This Challenge...It's a Steal!
« Reply #56 on: October 02, 2018, 04:05:26 AM »
Just like GlazeyLady I found that a club could help you get more steals, but uhh was I bad not to follow my sim around and not watch her ;)

Then I just tried to go to each household, and lot where I knew there where valuable items and swipe what I could.
I had no time for testing this challenge, so I am rather amazed about the high score I got.

Congrats on the win @GlazeyLady

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Re: Take This Challenge...It's a Steal!
« Reply #57 on: October 02, 2018, 09:34:39 PM »
Thanks @LenaLJ!
 
I prefer to think my sim appreciated the opportunity to wander unwatched, and rewarded me with extra stolen goodies!   ;)

 

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