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The Sims 4 Immortal Dynasty Challenge
« on: November 01, 2014, 06:05:26 AM »
The Sims 4 Immortal Dynasty Challenge



Goal
Through patience and hard work you come to discover the recipe for Ambrosia. Are you destined to keep this recipe a secret and never pass it down? Of course not. You are to create a Dynasty. But, know this — tasting Ambrosia and the power it offers is not for the weak. You and your descendants must earn the right to eat Ambrosia. Each of you must accomplish eight requirements. Your ultimate goal is to have eight blood-related Sims under one roof and to preserve their Dynasty forever with a valuable Family Museum. The road will be a hard one, but Ambrosia’s prize is — immortality.

Creating Your Founder
Before creating your new game file, you must patch up to the most current EA patch. You must also stay current on patches for the entirety of the file.

Choose New Game and create a single Young Adult. Gender, Aspiration, and Traits are all player choice (except Bodybuilder — this Aspiration is banned for all household members). Before you start your game you need to verify... CAS Story Mode is BANNED

Options
All Gameplay Options need to remain at default settings: Autonomy (Full); Lifespan (Normal); Fill Empty Homes (must be checked)
Seasons
Length of seasons is player's choice. No more than 1 holiday per week, 8 scheduled holidays per year, pop-ups allowed. Extreme weather is player's choice, but rain and snow must be allowed, and the effects on Sims must be allowed.
Whims
Show Whims MUST be enabled
Get Famous
Fame System: Players Choice

Lot Choice and Manage Worlds

Whichever world you end up choosing your choice is permanent — no moving after you set foot on your dynasty lot. Prebuilt houses or downloaded lots from someone else are not allowed. You must take care of all building and expansion yourself. Opting for the “no build/outdoors” route is also fine.  With the addition of Newcrest, you are allowed to place "MAXIS CREATED" buildings (commercial and residential) in your dynasty.  Go into the gallery, look under "My Library", the official maxis created buildings/houses will be in there.  You can also find more Maxis creation under "Community", with EA Account ID = Maxis.

The Landgraabs are such an important family in Sims history, so if you’d like to move them into another home before you begin playing, that’s fine. After you have bulldozed their lot and return to Live mode, go to Manage Worlds > Save and Manage Worlds, then go to the top right screen and select Household Management. Click the Unplayed Households tab and select the Landgraabs, then Move Household into a Lot and make your selection.  Any sims that were originally living on a dynasty lot may be placed elsewhere.

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All Immortal Dynasty players need to begin their game with $10,000.   If you have more or less than $10000 starting funds, use the money cheat to set the exact amount.

Press Command-Shift-C to open the cheat console
Type testingcheats on, then Return/Enter
Type Money 10000, then Return/Enter
Type testingcheats off, then Return/Enter
Press Command-Shift-C to close the cheat console

The Manage Worlds screen is off limits unless you need to evict ghosts from households or re-populate town (more rules below).
  • You are allowed to re-populate your town ONCE per dynasty.
  • Move in Sims can be a mixture of YA and/or children.  They can be EA created Sims and/or Sims created from scratch in CAS with a blank slate - no rewards/skills, etc.
  • You must have at least one bad trait (mean, evil, glutton, insane, lazy, slob, hates children, jealous, noncommittal, squeamish, and unflirty) for each created Sim.
  • If you are moving in Maxis/EA generated families, leave their traits alone.
  • You can move in a maximum of 20 Sims, household number does not matter.
  • Gallery Sims from other players are not allowed.

Mods, Cheats, and Custom/Premium Content   List of Approved Mods
Custom Content and Premium Content are fine and are to be used at your own risk. No mods or cheats are allowed with a few exceptions: lighting mods that change the look of the game are fine; Moveobjects is fine; some bugs may creep up that a mod could fix, but team permission is always necessary in these cases. 

ResetSim Firstname Lastname. You may only use this cheat in the event of a stuck Sim.
Moveobjects. You are allowed to use this cheat at your discretion.
Buydebug cheat (bb.showhiddenobjects) is banned.


Heirs Rules
  • The firstborn child through natural pregnancy of any generation is the targeted Immortal.
  • In the event a pregnancy results in twins or triplets, then the first named child is the next Immortal.
  • Heirs must result from natural pregnancies where both parents are living in the Dynasty house.
  • Children that result from your Sim having been abducted and impregnated are not allowed to become heir.  When the child is born, the player can choose to keep baby as spare household member (non-immortals) or choose to return alien baby to home world.
  • Your sim that has been abducted and impregnated are still eligible to produce an heir.
  • Spouses with children from previous relationships are still eligible to produce an heir.
  • Your 7th generation must be able to get pregnant. He/she will need to become pregnant without adding a spouse to the household to bring in the 8th and final immortal.

Lot Traits & Club Perks Rules
  • CHOOSE: Lot Traits OR Club Perks, can not have both.  No changes once you pick a route it must remain the same route for the entire dynasty.
  • Lot Traits Route -- Only one skill-boosting lot trait allowed, the other 2 spots can be empty or any non-skill boosting lot traits.  Once all the traits are chosen, they must remain the same for the rest of the dynasty.  You are still allowed to have clubs and form clubs, but not allowed to buy any club perks.  (Skill Boosting Lot Traits List)
  • Club Perks Route -- Only one adult skill-boosting club perk allowed, no limit on other perks.  You are not allowed to have any lot traits.  (Adult Skill Boosting Club Perks List)
  • You may opt to not choose either route, this means NO club perks and only allowed to have non-skill boosting lot traits.

General Rules and Restrictions
  • Exiting without saving to avoid a mistake or an unfortunate occurrence (i.e. burglar or fire) is considered cheating.
  • Non-Immortals can be adopted.
  • Non-Immortal household members (spouses, spare children, and other live-ins) are not tied to the same restrictions as immortals. They are free to choose any careers, skills, etc.
  • Sims can only be added to a household by being born, adopted, married, or asked to move in.
  • Vampires must be cured before they are asked to move in. No Sim in the household may be a vampire.
  • Elementals must be "Asked to Move In"
  • Gender changes: You're allowed to do any gender and/or gender customization change once during the teen or young adult stage.
  • You may edit community lots to add or rearrange objects such as microphones, easels, etc. You may also add on club hangouts. You still may not bulldoze community lots.
  • You may alter menus only in restaurants that you own.
  • Substitute cemeteries: Willow Creek (Magnolia Blossom Park), Oasis Springs (Desert Bloom Park), Windenburg (Hare Square), and your own retail lot.
  • No Sim can be moved out. All household members are to live a full and natural life and their eventual death can never be expedited (intentional killing).
  • Heirs with the Public Enemy Aspiration are the only household members allowed to "help" in the deaths of non household members.
  • Cloning Machine (Science Career): no cloning ambrosia or ingredients, and cloned collectables cannot be used as museum pieces.
  • No splitting the dynasty household.
  • School-aged Heirs cannot miss school.
  • Vacation: School-aged Heirs can travel, but they must not miss school while doing it.  Young adults and older have no restrictions.
  • If a non-Immortal dies accidentally (electric shock, fire, etc.) you are free to continue playing the challenge.
  • No aging anyone up early. Birthday cakes (or bassinets aging up for babies) can only be used on a Sim's actual birthday and only on members of your household.
  • Strangerville: Request for Life Extension is BANNED

Becoming Immortal and Ambrosia Requirements    Ambrosia Guide
Eating Ambrosia is the sole privilege for your Founder and Heirs who reach Elder stage and is the only allowed method of extending life for these special Sims. Household members cannot complete the Bodybuilder Aspiration, use Potions of Youth, Essence of Life (from cowplant), Book of Life (from writing skill), Plead with the Grim Reaper to save a dying sim or use any other interaction to demand a sim's life back, use Age-Away Serum, wish for Youthful Vigor from the wishing well, or any other methods of extending life.  Before eating Ambrosia for the first time your Founder and Heirs must complete the following eight requirements:

1. Max one career no other Heir has maxed.  (Qualified Careers List)
2. Complete two Adult Aspirations no other Heir has completed.
3. Max three Adult skills (photography and dancing do not qualify). These do not need to be unique.
4. Purchase four rewards not bought by other Heirs.
5. Get five gold medals for parties and dates — all five must be a different type. Qualifying types of events are:

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6. Have six Good Friends at the time of eating Ambrosia for the first time. Other Heirs can share these Good Friends except one needs to be a unique B.F.F (ask to be Best Friends). This B.F.F cannot be a Good Friend or B.F.F to any other Heir. Don’t worry if friendships deteriorate after Ambrosia has been eaten. Please make your best efforts to have your six Good Friends outside the household. This may be impossible later in your Dynasty if much of the town has died.
7. Each Heir needs to complete seven different Whims (but other heirs can complete the same Whims) and each Whim must be tied to a different emotion. For example “Hug Someone from being Happy,” “Do Push-Ups from being Energized, or “Take a Shower from being Tense.”
8. Contribute eight items** to your Immortal Dynasty Family Museum.  The museum must be placed on your dynasty lot.  Each Heir’s Dynasty Museum’s items need to be of a unique type, must be placeable, and either created or collected. So, for example, the Founder may contribute paintings, so Heir #1 would not be able to contribute paintings but may opt for Woodworking items. Also, items each Heir contributes do not need to be unique themselves — for example, Heir #3 contributes eight frogs to the museum. All eight could be the exact same type of frog— but no other Heirs could contribute frogs. It's really important to understand that each heir must put in all the work for their collection items. Qualifying items for the Museum include:

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Challenge Team member LenaLJ worked up a nice Sims 4 Immortal Dynasty Spreadsheet to keep everyone organized. Thank you, Lena.

Finishing Up and the Immortals’ Museum
After your Founder and the next seven generations have each contributed their eight items** to the Immortal Family Museum, you can add up the value of these 64 objects. You can call it your final “score” if you wish, but Dynasty challenges are not about competition or placing high in a world ranking — that role is filled by the Tournament Challenges. Dynasties are relaxed and everyone is encouraged to share strategy and tips throughout their journeys.

**Players can increase the value of their Immortal Family Museum by having an heir contribute Four additional museum items (for a total of 12 of a given type) if the heir maxes all five of their toddler's skills, completes a Childhood Aspiration, Completes Scouts and/or Drama Club and gets an A in school (as a Child and a Teen).

You are finished with the Sims 4 Immortal Dynasty Challenge when your Founder and the next seven generations have all finished their eight requirements for eating Ambrosia. Congratulations! The Sims 4 Dynasty Hall of Fame is eligible to all players who complete a Dynasty and follow Dynasty rules. As with the Tournament Challenges, we are all on the honor system here. The Challenge Team reserves the right to make inquiries and we can request to see a copy of your save file.

Hall of Fame Prize. All players who have made it into the Hall of Fame by the end of 2017 will be entered into a random drawing at the end of the year. One lucky player will be randomly chosen for a $50 Amazon gift card. It's the team's way of saying thank you to those who dedicate a serious investment of time to finish their dynasties. You don't have to write a story, but should be prepared to furnish a detailed account (see sample here) of your dynasty.


The team is always here to answer your questions, and we hope you have fun with the Sims 4 Immortal Dynasty Challenge. Good luck!
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Re: The Sims 4 Immortal Dynasty Challenge
« Reply #1 on: November 01, 2014, 06:05:37 AM »
The Sims 4 Immortal Dynasty Rule Changes

Updates from 2014-2016

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The ruleset is all updated as of Seasons

--November 13, 2018 -- Added Style Influencer to the "Career List"
--Novemebr 14, 2018 -- Added Whims must be Enabled in GamePlay Options
--November 15, 2018 -- Added "Name Your Own Career" is NOT a "Qualified Career"
--Novemebr 17, 2018 -- Added "Actor" to the "Qualified Career List"
--November 23, 2018 -- Added Floral Arrangement to the Museum list. (Must be Scented with Bluebells to prevent rot/decay)
--December 6, 2018 -- Added Fame System to Options
--December 6, 2018 -- Added All Fame Perks Allowed. Quirk Removal Potion: Limited to one time use only per sim. Celestial Crown is allowed.
--December 26,2016 -- Added Fan Meet and Greets to Qualified types of events for Gold Metals and New lots to the "Lot Choice and Manage Worlds"
--July 09,2019 -- Added Updated Spreadsheet to ruleset.

The ruleset is all updated as of Strangerville:

March: 08/2019 -- Added: Strangerville Mystery Aspiration, Mother Plant can be revived but Aspiration can only be completed by One Immortal Heir.
March: 08/2019 -- Added: Request for Life Extension is BANNED

March, 08/2019 -- Added New Lots to the "Lot Choice and Manage Worlds"
March, 08/2019 -- Added Added "Military" to the "Qualified Career List"

The ruleset is all updated as of Island Living:

June 20,2019 Part-Time Careers IS NOT A QUALIFIED CAREER
June 21,2019 Seashells and Buried Treasures have been added to "Qualified Musuem Items".
June 21,2019 Added "Conservationist" to the "Qualified Career List"
June 25, 2019 Added New Lot's the "Lot Choice and Manage Worlds"
July 17,2019   Added: Elementals: "Ask to Join Household" BANNED
August 15,2019   Added: Elementals can be added to household via using "Ask To Move In" ---- Updated General Rules and Restrictions for Elementals.

Creating Your Founder Updated:

July 29, 2019 ADDED: "CAS Story Mode BANNED"

Ruleset Updates for Realm of Magic"ROM":

September 12, 2019 ADDED: Rock Ridge Canyon to Lot List
September 12, 2019 ADDED: Spellcasters will be allowed to have a Familiar AFTER eating Ambrosia.
September 12, 2019 ADDED: Potions: Rejuvation, Immortality, Prompt Resurrection BANNED
September 12, 2019 ADDED: Spells: Necro Call, DeDeathify BANNED
September 13, 2019 ADDED: Magical Artifacts to List of Qualifying Museum Items
September 15, 2019 ADDED: The Vendor/Yardsale table is allowed
September 21, 2019 ADDED: To the FAQ Section about Angelfish and Deathflower

The Sims 4 Immortal Dynasty FAQ

What mods are allowed?
These mods have been approved by the challenge team.  If you want to use a mod but its not on this list, please contact the team for approval.
-- Any lightning mods to make indoor lights brighter.
-- Any mods that change background color in CAS screen.
-- Live Mode and Tab Mode Camera Mods - No Drift & Lower Level!
-- CAS Modifiers bugfix: Aging & Randomization
-- Smaller Censor / Mosaic
-- Daily Save Mod
-- More Columns + More Swatches (Broken as of Nov. 13th Patch)

What can I do with the graves of non-immortals?
-- 1. You can keep them on your lot and deal with the ghosts.
-- 2. You can place them in substitute cemeteries (list above).
-- 3. You can carry around the grave in inventory and essentially never deal with it at all.
-- 4. You can release spirit to netherworld and essentially removing the Sim from the game, their grave marker will vanish.

Can I use book of life to cure negative moodlets?  Can I use book of life for museum contribution?
-- Yes to both.  You cannot use book of life to extend life, but you can use book of life to cure negative moodlets and you can write book of life and contribute it to the museum for requirement.

Can I place prebuilt buildings or houses?
-- Yes and no.  Only official MAXIS created buildings (found in your library) can be placed in your dynasty.  Prebuilt buildings or houses created by the community is not allowed.

If I complete all the requirements before turning elder, can I eat Ambrosia?
-- No.  You must wait until elder stage before eating Ambrosia, even if you completed all the requirements.

Can I purchase Angelfish and Deathflowers for Ambrosia?
-- Yes and No ---- No, Angelfish must be caught via fishing by your sim. Yes Deathflower can be purchased but it must be planted as a seed and grown in the garden.



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Re: The Sims 4 Immortal Dynasty Challenge
« Reply #2 on: November 01, 2014, 08:11:44 AM »
Yay! It's Official!!!

*runs off to start game*

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Re: The Sims 4 Immortal Dynasty Challenge
« Reply #3 on: November 01, 2014, 09:46:14 AM »
yay! gonna start right away! :D good luck everyone!

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Re: The Sims 4 Immortal Dynasty Challenge
« Reply #4 on: November 01, 2014, 10:35:41 AM »
Ohh, I am torn! Should I continue with my legacy or start a dynasty that's the question....

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« Reply #5 on: November 01, 2014, 10:43:18 AM »
Ohh, I am torn! Should I continue with my legacy or start a dynasty that's the question....
Start a Dynasty!!!  ;D

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« Reply #6 on: November 01, 2014, 10:45:41 AM »
Ohh, I am torn! Should I continue with my legacy or start a dynasty that's the question....

I will do both :D



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Re: The Sims 4 Immortal Dynasty Challenge
« Reply #7 on: November 01, 2014, 10:48:23 AM »
I'm doing a combination for a bit of fun...  using all of the rules from the Dynasty challenge, but with the house rule that I have to use the trait generator from the legacy challenge.  Good luck everyone!
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« Reply #8 on: November 01, 2014, 10:51:03 AM »
  • School-aged Heirs cannot miss school.

I thought this got removed?  I do see the rule about needing the aspiration and the grade both for extra museum peices got added.
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Re: The Sims 4 Immortal Dynasty Challenge
« Reply #9 on: November 01, 2014, 11:00:13 AM »
Kids don't have to get an A if you don't want the extra museum pieces, but they still have to go to school everyday.

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« Reply #10 on: November 01, 2014, 11:47:33 AM »
Simfulicious is correct.

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« Reply #11 on: November 01, 2014, 01:39:02 PM »

"Prebuilt houses or downloaded lots from someone else are not allowed. You must take care of all building and expansion yourself."

To clarify: are rooms downloaded from the exchange, or the ones that come with the game, allowed to be used?

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« Reply #12 on: November 01, 2014, 03:33:43 PM »
Rooms downloaded from the exchange -- Allowed
Rooms that come with the game -- Allowed

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« Reply #13 on: November 01, 2014, 03:57:39 PM »
I am definitely NOT a quitter!  So, despite the challenge of having to save more frequently than usual in order to not lose things with my constant crashes, Holly Thyme is going to build her dynasty!  It will probably take a gazillion more time to do this but I am nothing if not persistent, (read: stubborn), so wish me luck.
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Re: The Sims 4 Immortal Dynasty Challenge
« Reply #14 on: November 01, 2014, 05:07:56 PM »
Rooms downloaded from the exchange -- Allowed


As long as there is no potential for players to tweak rooms to the point where Dynasty players would have an unfair advantage by using someone's tricked out room I am okay with it

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« Reply #15 on: November 01, 2014, 06:45:53 PM »
I have a question now that I am playing the dynasty challenge. I have to make 5 culinair dishes at one event for my cooking aspiration. Now did I make 1/5 dishes at a wedding and after that I wasn't able to complete the rest. Now it says 1/5 dishes complete. I tried to do the rest at a dinner party (I assumed it would reset, but it didn't) and that did nothing. This is the last thing I have to do to complete that aspiration. Can I still complete this? Does anyone know this is a bug? If so, do I have to start another aspiration for my requirements to make ambrosia? (I'm pretty far already with the first generation). I hope it will be resolved.

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« Reply #16 on: November 01, 2014, 06:53:51 PM »
You did make sure they were Gourmet dishes right? Try and do salads - it takes the oven and stovetop out of the equation and they're much faster.

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« Reply #17 on: November 01, 2014, 07:00:19 PM »
Do we need to display the awards from the gold medal parties?

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« Reply #18 on: November 01, 2014, 07:06:31 PM »
You did make sure they were Gourmet dishes right? Try and do salads - it takes the oven and stovetop out of the equation and they're much faster.

I did, yeah. Might try it another time later on. Also: to get the gold medal for a party, does the hier have to plan the social event? or does the heir also need to be the one the party's for (like birthday parties)

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« Reply #19 on: November 01, 2014, 07:09:57 PM »
Do we need to display the awards from the gold medal parties?
No need, just keep track of the 5 different type of gold medals.

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« Reply #20 on: November 01, 2014, 08:04:41 PM »
I did, yeah. Might try it another time later on. Also: to get the gold medal for a party, does the hier have to plan the social event? or does the heir also need to be the one the party's for (like birthday parties)

MissZoef, i have had this kind of problem with some other aspiration that did stop counting, suddenly.
What i did to solve it for them was to choose another aspiration, as an example Angling Ace, and the save and close the game.
Start up your game and go into the file again, and switch back to your old aspiration, this has made them start counting again for me untill now.

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« Reply #21 on: November 01, 2014, 08:29:48 PM »
So, despite the challenge of having to save more frequently than usual in order to not lose things with my constant crashes, Holly Thyme is going to build her dynasty!  It will probably take a gazillion more time to do this but I am nothing if not persistent, (read: stubborn), so wish me luck.

@Joria, I've been experiencing incessant crashing, too! Do you have any idea what's causing it? I'm practically crying over it over here.  :(
I've been debugging, defragging, restarting, and following every guideline I can find on this site and others to try to stop it, but nothing seems to work.

And I've lost so much play time. It crashes at least 2 out of 3 times that I save, even if they're one right after the other.

(Sorry, this is off-topic for this discussion. I just want to make sure you see it.)

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Re: The Sims 4 Immortal Dynasty Challenge
« Reply #22 on: November 01, 2014, 08:37:15 PM »
  • School-aged Heirs cannot miss school.

What if they miss it by accident?

Also, I've NEVER played any game challenge like this before. If you really mean eight generations, then what do you do with the rest of the family? Kick them out to make room for more? Wait until they die?

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« Reply #23 on: November 01, 2014, 09:06:22 PM »
We are discussing the missing school situation, will let you know once we decide.
NO kicking anyone out of your dynasty house.  You just have to wait for the non-heirs / household members to die.

No Sim can be moved out. All household members are to live a full and natural life and their eventual death can never be expedited (intentional killing).

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« Reply #24 on: November 01, 2014, 09:45:40 PM »
We are discussing the missing school situation, will let you know once we decide.
NO kicking anyone out of your dynasty house.  You just have to wait for the non-heirs / household members to die.

No Sim can be moved out. All household members are to live a full and natural life and their eventual death can never be expedited (intentional killing).

So then, having more children would make it more difficult because you have to wait for them to die? Also, if you have a girl, can the father be a townie or someone not living with them?

 

anything