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Patient and Perpetrator
« on: December 19, 2016, 06:47:36 AM »
Patient and Perpetrator

Your two Sims have equally strong ambitions -- to succeed as a doctor and as a detective. One wants to diagnose and treat patients; the other wants to investigate crimes and imprison perpetrators.

Goal
Juggle your Sims' schedules so as to produce the largest household income, modified by points for patients treated and perpetrators jailed.

General Challenge Rules
The General Challenge Rules always apply. If applicable, exceptions will be noted below.

Specific Challenge Rules
  • Create two Young Adults (Alien or Human is fine).
  • You are allowed to use the Buydebug cheat for the sole purpose of purchasing a satellite to prevent abductions.
  • No adding to the household.
  • No moving allowed.
  • Can only make money from the Doctor and Detective careers, and selling any associated rewards with those two careers. If you purchase the Connections reward you cannot sell any rewards obtained at lvl 1-3. Also, remember not to sell furniture, etc.
  • This challenge ends when your Sims turn Elder. IMPORTANT: Remember to play your file on Short life span.

Scoring

Household Funds — When your Sim turns Elder, pause your game and note your Household Funds in the bottom left of the game.

P & P — Patients and Perpetrators. This is a multiplier for your Household Income. Everyone starts with a 1.00 P & P multiplier, and for every patient diagnosed and treated add .05 to your multiplier. For every perpetrator jailed add .10 to the multiplier. In the doctor career, interactions through the desk (House Calls, Assessing Collapsed Patient, etc.) do not count.

Total — Take your Household Income and multiply it by the P & P to get your Total.

Ch-Ch-Changes
The team does not want to edit and make changes to the ruleset once this event goes live, but we may have to. If an exploit is brought to our attention or we discover something else we reserve the right to ask affected players to redo their effort.

Have Questions?
Please think hard before you ask in the challenge thread because it may be strategy. What you may consider an innocent question could cause another player to go — “oh, I did not think of doing that.” It’s always safer to PM everyone on the team (Metro, ratchie, Nutella, LenaLJ, Trip, and MarianT) for clarifications. Thanks.

And the Winner is...
After this event has closed everyone is encouraged to discuss how they approached the event, but the winner especially is expected to do so in detail.

This Event is Now Closed

Player                                 Household Funds       P & P        Total
Minnie Mouse                            503626.80342462
thekatie0409                            484556.35307689
lesleyj42                            532435.05268877
Makenziegma                            508404.00204960
cyclonenic                            567033.60204130
ratchie                            573453.45197840
Syrcen                            520333.30171708
Annabec                            545083.10168664
Isabelalabe                            435533.75163323
SeraNita                            415273.55147420
Ginj                            459783.00137934
MissZoef                            408643.35136894
Metropolis Man                            378252.90109692
vancanuckfan86                            323623.30106794
Whimsical Peanut                            416902.2091718
MarianT                            416322.1087427
ShangoBunny                            298922.9086686
fluffyj00                            266153.2586498
Brisayshi                            203334.8586415
MomOfMany                            382192.2084081
Eighty8Keys                            340572.4583439
Noyo                            331442.3076231
SIMantics101                            264902.7572847
MysteryGem                            232922.6060559
CynKuy                            312351.9059347
Starsha                            241402.4057936
kirkbysims                            255542.7552543
sdhoey                            291911.8052543
JocyMc                            158022.0031604
wonderoona                            145951.6023352

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Re: Patient and Perpetrator
« Reply #1 on: December 19, 2016, 03:15:40 PM »
Is this also (like the party challenge) meant to be played on short lifespan or is this one normal lifespan?

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Re: Patient and Perpetrator
« Reply #2 on: December 19, 2016, 04:49:16 PM »
All the challenges this year will be on short lifespan unless the rules say otherwise.
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Re: Patient and Perpetrator
« Reply #3 on: December 19, 2016, 05:34:52 PM »
Have you taken into consideration the Detective career is severely messed up?  It often corrupts files.  Check with Crinricht's info for details.
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Re: Patient and Perpetrator
« Reply #4 on: December 19, 2016, 06:34:18 PM »
Have you taken into consideration the Detective career is severely messed up?  It often corrupts files.  Check with Crinricht's info for details.

@oshizu told us that she had problems with the Detective career in her legacy because it was a large multi-generational file, but she she tried the career in a new game, it was fine. It should be okay in a fairly short challenge (about 3 Sim weeks), but of course if people start having problems, they'll be able to start a new file.
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Re: Patient and Perpetrator
« Reply #5 on: December 20, 2016, 05:03:09 AM »
This should be an interesting challenge. I have played a detective sim zero times, even though I've had get to work since the day it came out  ::) . Going off to figure out the career now before I practice the two sims together  ;D

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Re: Patient and Perpetrator
« Reply #6 on: December 20, 2016, 05:57:00 AM »
This should be an interesting challenge. I have played a detective sim zero times, even though I've had get to work since the day it came out  ::) . Going off to figure out the career now before I practice the two sims together  ;D

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Re: Patient and Perpetrator
« Reply #7 on: December 20, 2016, 10:03:33 AM »
I wanted to draw players' attention to remember to not sell furniture since income is restricted in this one:

  • Can only make money from the Doctor and Detective careers, and selling any associated rewards with those two careers. So, remember not to sell furniture, etc.

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Re: Patient and Perpetrator
« Reply #8 on: December 24, 2016, 09:34:31 PM »
I assume there is no restriction on aspirations and trait?

I am new here and I just want to make sure I got it right, is aspiration rewards allowed? ALL of them?

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Re: Patient and Perpetrator
« Reply #9 on: December 25, 2016, 07:45:34 AM »
Welcome to the forum, @Isabelalabe! I just checked the General Challenge Rules, and yes, aspiration rewards are allowed this year. You can choose any traits you want, too.
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Re: Patient and Perpetrator
« Reply #10 on: December 25, 2016, 12:53:47 PM »
Welcome to the forum, Isabelalabe. Good luck in the 2017 Tournament season. :)

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Re: Patient and Perpetrator
« Reply #11 on: December 27, 2016, 07:21:07 AM »
Welcome to the forum, @Isabelalabe! I just checked the General Challenge Rules, and yes, aspiration rewards are allowed this year. You can choose any traits you want, too.
Welcome to the forum, Isabelalabe. Good luck in the 2017 Tournament season. :)

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Re: Patient and Perpetrator
« Reply #12 on: December 29, 2016, 12:30:46 PM »
I built a scoresheet in Excel for this challenge; here it is!

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Re: Patient and Perpetrator
« Reply #13 on: January 02, 2017, 10:01:47 AM »
I just added this --

  • No moving allowed.

...to prevent players from unknowingly gaining income from a move and disqualifying themselves.

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Re: Patient and Perpetrator
« Reply #14 on: January 03, 2017, 08:20:51 AM »
Sorry for another change :(, but due to the Connections reward bug the team needed to modify the following:

  • Can only make money from the Doctor and Detective careers, and selling any associated rewards with those two careers IF they were not obtained via the Connections reward. If you purchase the Connections reward you cannot sell any rewards obtained at lvl 1-3. Also, remember not to sell furniture, etc.

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Re: Patient and Perpetrator
« Reply #15 on: January 03, 2017, 07:32:58 PM »
I just ran into a bug in which the arrested suspect is declared innocent after being fully interrogated and has to be released. A person who later fits the profile turns out to be the police chief and can't be interrogated. I discussed this with others on the Challenge team, and we decided that anyone who gets this can start over. I plan to keep playing on, which is also an option.
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Re: Patient and Perpetrator
« Reply #16 on: January 04, 2017, 02:16:33 AM »
Hi, do we start out in a EA/Maxis Pre-built house, like one of the ones that come with the game or do we build our own? Are we allowed to download a house from the gallery? Also, what are our starting funds?  :(

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Re: Patient and Perpetrator
« Reply #17 on: January 04, 2017, 04:05:02 AM »
I just ran into a bug in which the arrested suspect is declared innocent after being fully interrogated and has to be released. A person who later fits the profile turns out to be the police chief and can't be interrogated. I discussed this with others on the Challenge team, and we decided that anyone who gets this can start over. I plan to keep playing on, which is also an option.

Oh dear, I thought they had fixed this issue! Seems like they broke it again. I don't blame you for carrying on Marian, it's been interesting playing these two careers in test files but playing both at the same time is a nightmare I'd only want to do once more for my score file :)

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Re: Patient and Perpetrator
« Reply #18 on: January 04, 2017, 06:25:59 AM »
Hi, do we start out in a EA/Maxis Pre-built house, like one of the ones that come with the game or do we build our own?

Your choice.

Are we allowed to download a house from the gallery?

No.

Also, what are our starting funds?  :(

Everyone starts with $22 - $20k for your first Sim and $2k for the 2nd Sim.

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Re: Patient and Perpetrator
« Reply #19 on: January 04, 2017, 12:42:04 PM »
I just ran into a bug in which the arrested suspect is declared innocent after being fully interrogated and has to be released. A person who later fits the profile turns out to be the police chief and can't be interrogated. I discussed this with others on the Challenge team, and we decided that anyone who gets this can start over. I plan to keep playing on, which is also an option.

Good news -- I sent my detective back to work today, and the former chief of police was in prison. She was able to interrogate him and complete the case. I'm not sure whether this was a bug, as the notification that a suspect was innocent and the appearance of the action to let him go were obviously coded in.
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Re: Patient and Perpetrator
« Reply #20 on: January 04, 2017, 12:45:22 PM »
That is good news, Marian. :)

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Re: Patient and Perpetrator
« Reply #21 on: January 04, 2017, 06:33:18 PM »
We clarified "treating patients" as follows:

P & P — Patients and Perpetrators. This is a multiplier for your Household Income. Everyone starts with a 1.00 P & P multiplier, and for every patient diagnosed and treated add .05 to your multiplier. For every perpetrator jailed add .10 to the multiplier. In the doctor career, interactions through the desk (House Calls, Assessing Collapsed Patient, etc.) do not count.

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Re: Patient and Perpetrator
« Reply #22 on: January 05, 2017, 10:36:55 AM »
My doctor diagnosed and treated 16 patients for a score of .8; my detective solved 3 cases for a score of .3. They made $41,632. 41,632 x 2.1 = 87427.
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Re: Patient and Perpetrator
« Reply #23 on: January 05, 2017, 11:26:33 AM »
They made $41,632.

Marian - just to make sure...are you equating what your 2 Sims "made" and Household Funds?

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« Reply #24 on: January 05, 2017, 11:36:28 AM »
Yeah, 41,632, was their household funds.
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