Hobos to Heroes: Rotation Transformation

[Tixxis]

Thank you, Nutella!

Edit to ask:
1. Our hobos are vulnerable to alien abduction. Is there anything we can do about that?
2. Is it allowed to access the personal inventories of the inactive Sims?
3. I assume we cannot buy aspiration rewards for/via an inactive Sim?

[Nutella]

1. Our hobos are vulnerable to alien abduction. Is there anything we can do about that?

Sigh, those aliens.  I suppose we could let players purchase a satellite dish with cheat before setting funds to zero. 

2. Is it allowed to access the personal inventories of the inactive Sims?

No.

@MarianT @LenaLJ - what do you think? 

[LenaLJ]

Sigh, those aliens.  I suppose we could let players purchase a satellite dish with cheat before setting funds to zero. 
No.

@MarianT @LenaLJ - what do you think? 

I agree as we did it in other challenges too.

[MarianT]

Yes, we probably should let them get the satellite dish before they set funds to 0.

As for accessing the inventories of inactive players, I'd say no.

[Nutella]

Rules Modification:

You are allowed to use the Buydebug cheat for the sole purpose of purchasing a satellite to prevent abductions.

This line is added before the setting funds to $0 rule.

[Nutella]

1. Our hobos are vulnerable to alien abduction. Is there anything we can do about that?

We added the rule to allow cheat to purchase satellite dish before setting funds to $0.

2. Is it allowed to access the personal inventories of the inactive Sims?

No.

3. I assume we cannot buy aspiration rewards for/via an inactive Sim?

Correct.  You can't buy aspiration rewards for inactive Sim, you can't buy aspiration rewards using inactive Sim points.

[Tixxis]

Thank you very much.

I have a few more questions about the following rule:

"All 3 Sims must acquire Enemy status with each other as well as achieve a Ravenous moodlet. No leaving the home lot until these are achieved. Once this is achieved, you can begin working towards the goals."

Should the home lot be fenced off until they are enemies and ravenous?
The inactive Sims left the lot: one went to sit on the bench nearby and the other went for a jog.

Can we begin working towards the goals before they are enemies and ravenous?
It is hard not to. All Sims - controlled or not - pick up skills. And the actual active Sim will have an aspiration and whims to consider.

[Nutella]

Should the home lot be fenced off until they are enemies and ravenous?
The inactive Sims left the lot: one went to sit on the bench nearby and the other went for a jog.

No need.  It is fine if the inactive sim gain some some skill without you controlling them.  When we say leaving the lot, we meant traveling (zoning using the map screen).

Can we begin working towards the goals before they are enemies and ravenous?
It is hard not to. All Sims - controlled or not - pick up skills. And the actual active Sim will have an aspiration and whims to consider.

The inactive sim picking up skills is unavoidable, but the active sim should be concentrating on making enemies with the other 2 sims instead of working on aspiration and whims.  So I am thinking you may pick up mischief and charisma skill a bit while making enemies?   

If you pick up any skills or whims while making enemies, that is fine.  It is not fine if you work on something else besides making enemies / getting ravenous. 

@MarianT @LenaLJ  @ClayMask thoughts?

[MarianT]

I brought up this question to Metro, and he said it wasn't necessary to fence them in. The few skill points they pick up from video games and jogging won't make much difference. The main thing is that you can't direct any of them to work on a skill or satisfy a whim or make money until they're enemies and ravenous.

[ClayMask]

The way I understand things was exactly how MarianT put it.

[Tixxis]

I'm still not sure if I understand this right.
Map travel is off, but the whole neighborhood is accessible.
Even if we control a Sim, he/she may do nothing but make enemies of the other two until they all become ravenous.

It takes no time at all to become enemies. It takes a long time to become ravenous.
To sit there, watch this, doing nothing... I don't know.

[HelenP]

Of course, they won't just be ravenous, they'll also be filthy and exhausted.  Makes this a real challenge in the first day or so after you can start working towards the main goals.

[Nutella]

Map travel is off, but the whole neighborhood is accessible.

Correct.  Your inactive sim will just wander around, no grill in that neighborhood, so we are good.  The main thing is you do not zone into a different area, must remain in your starting zone.

[ClayMask]

It takes no time at all to become enemies. It takes a long time to become ravenous.
To sit there, watch this, doing nothing... I don't know.

From what I understand, once you achieve enemy status between your active Sim and the other Sims, but your Sims are no longer ravenous, you'd have the choice to either continue to do mean/mischievous interactions, or just let your active Sim do stuff autonomously.  If you are going the autonomous route you could just fast forward if you wanted.  I'm not 100% certain whether these are both allowed, though, so some verification would be great.

[Nutella]

I'm pretty sure you can go the autonomous route and fast forward till ravenous.