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A Friendly Play Through-Investigator Profession
« on: February 28, 2019, 06:08:23 PM »
This is just a very casual, friendly play-through of some sims Ambitions content that MrsFlynn, Nindigo and I haven't either played before or not for a long time.

Anyone can play along and post their sim-shenanigans in this thread, just tell us a little about your sim and their Life Time Wish, and share the journey. We're not writing full stories, we will share screenshots and just general chit-chat about how we are playing and maybe what works and what doesn't.



General Rules:

- Town: Riverview

- Extra money making allowed from any non career/self employment source and from the decided upon Career. (So you don't have to live in a totally ugly house...priorities people!)

- Trips to World Adventure Worlds allowed.

- Time in University Allowed but only if your sim is making a genuine effort to complete a degree *snicker*

- No trips to the future.

- 1 Sim household - Not allowed to hire helpers.

- Romantic relationships allowed.

- No pets.

- Can use items from all eps/sps, store and custom content.

- Static Needs - Allowed, if you want to give more time for skilling and socializing, etc.

- Buydebug - Your choice.

- NRAAS Mods - A must (no kidding but you really should use them!)



Goals of the Play-Through:

To complete the top level of the Investigator Profession

To share any tips and tricks that work well (and perhaps share those that don't work quite as well lol).

To get as close to completing the Life Time Wish as possible: We decided that this would be up to individuals to choose but Pervasive Private Eye is a good fit.

Eventually support your sim off the proceeds of the profession without the need to earn simoleons in any other way. Which may be pretty tough on these Ambitions Professions/Careers.
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Links and Tips/Information
« Reply #1 on: February 28, 2019, 06:08:36 PM »
Handy Links:

Carl's Guide to the Private Investigator Profession
https://www.carls-sims-3-guide.com/careers/ambitions/privateinvestigator.php

Sims Wiki - Private Investigator
https://sims.fandom.com/wiki/Investigator

A link to most of the PI Cases -
https://sims.fandom.com/wiki/Investigator/cases

Riverview
https://sims.fandom.com/wiki/Riverview




Tips:

- Break In Issue and Always Wanting to Go Home.

Wait till someone is home, be invited in and then try completing that part of the case.

This is helpful when you need to dust for prints or search for clues inside the house.

You can cancel the go home action when your Sim is searching the garbage can and/or mailbox for clues. They'll still complete that part of the case.

Sounds like it's a conflict between two processes of the game. One that allows the Sim to break in, and one that makes your Sim leave when no one is home or the family has left the lot.

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- Your Sim can earn more than $650 a case if they have the Opportunistic Lifetime Reward. Like $1300. each case.

- Cases take anywhere between 2 hours up to 11 hours in-game time.

- Click on the police station to have the option to obtain cases and/or do low level police work that can bring in some extra cash.

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- The magnifying glass and finger printing kit are placed in Sims' inventory to use when needed for a case. These cannot be deleted while in the PI career. When Sim leaves Career they are automatically deleted.

The rest of the promotional awards can be sold off if desired, as they are placed in the family inventory.

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- The Help Investigate opportunity (The one where Sim goes to the police station to offer their psychic services) is bugged. It does not register as completed. It's best to cancel out of this opportunity when it pops up.

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- Can't do stakeouts on residential lots, only community lots. Unless a case prompts a stakeout on a residential lot.

- Writing stakeout reports doesn't take any writing skill and you can get $250. from each report written.

- A stakeout takes about 1 hour 20 minutes.

- A trick for the stakeouts:

It doesn't matter where on a lot you go to do the stakeout, however you do want to leave room for the action to take place. Or else the game says something like There's nothing going on here.

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- If the case icon is slightly off screen and you click it, and you can't select Visit lot, use the mouse or arrow keys to go over to the lot and then click the mailbox and/or garbage can to Inspect or search for clues.

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- If having a hard time following along with a case. Click on the Opportunity tab for notes on the case.

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- If needing to inspect something and it doesn't give the option, click Map View to look for special icons on the map.

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- Mouse over the Lifetime Wish to see information about the wish.

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- May need to have Sim switch to another outfit instead of work outfit before saving the game. There's a chance they'll become invisible. Do this by using sending Sim to the chest of drawers or click on them and select change outfit.

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Re: A Friendly Play Through-Investigator Profession
« Reply #2 on: February 28, 2019, 06:37:54 PM »


* Name: Calista Bloom
* Gender/Type: Female Human
* Age: YA

* Traits: Bookworm, Computer Wiz, Genius, Loves the Outdoors, Perceptive
* LTW: Perceptive Private Eye
* Favorites: Goopy Carbonara, Geek Rock and Pink
* Sign: Cancer
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Re: A Friendly Play Through-Investigator Profession
« Reply #3 on: February 28, 2019, 08:17:05 PM »
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This is the Sim I will be playing for this challenge. You will find him to be a child when you load up a fresh Sunset Valley. Below is just about how I envision him as a grown up. Miraj has been my Sims 3 crush for several years ;D


Name: Miraj Alvi
Gender/Type: Male, Human Sim
Age: Young Adult

Traits: Family-Oriented, Good, Neat, Perceptive, Ambitious
Lifetime Wish: Perceptive Private Eye
Favorites: Kids (music), Pancakes (food), Sea foam (color)
Astrological Sign: Pisces
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Re: A Friendly Play Through-Investigator Profession
« Reply #4 on: March 01, 2019, 12:40:49 PM »
1st play-through, last night, I wasn't sure what I was doing. Didn't have very many tools (Laptop/bookcase) to help move things along, so I started over.

2nd play-through I am a little better prepared (?) I start off by putting off getting Calista a job and have her head straight for the junk yard to rummage through the dumpsters. While she was doing that, the mascot stopped by and the portal popped onto the lot, which I sold both as well as the camera to help buy the bookshelf, a desk, lamp and laptop.

She's only got two cases done, and starting on logic.

Both times I picked the same house - Teacup Chihuahua 1010 Dogwood Lane, Riverview. Remodeled it and saved it to the library, before starting the game. Hoping to move her into the remodeled version soon.

Still not fully confident we're going this the "right" way, but we're having fun. :)
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Re: A Friendly Play Through-Investigator Profession
« Reply #5 on: March 01, 2019, 01:46:55 PM »
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Still not fully confident we're going this the "right" way, but we're having fun. :)

Looking at the rules and overall goal we decided on, how can we be going the wrong way? ??? Playalot is probably just completing the challenge before writing anything at all :P ;D
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Re: A Friendly Play Through-Investigator Profession
« Reply #6 on: March 01, 2019, 01:56:31 PM »
Oh, errm.. I was meaning me and Calista. *Blush*

We're PI lv3, and lv3 in logic. It's funny watching them do stakeouts.

Looking at the rules and overall goal we decided on, how can we be going the wrong way? ??? Playalot is probably just completing the challenge before writing anything at all :P ;D
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Re: A Friendly Play Through-Investigator Profession
« Reply #7 on: March 01, 2019, 04:14:24 PM »
Ah, my misunderstanding - sorry. And yes, stake outs do look funny ;D

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No one can see me...right? *shifty eyes*
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Re: A Friendly Play Through-Investigator Profession
« Reply #8 on: March 01, 2019, 04:26:57 PM »
Or you have your Sim go on a stakeout and they don't even change into their PI uniform. *Snicker*



I'm finding we can rummage and inspect for clues in the garbage can even if someone is outdoors on the lot.



I feel as if Bob Newbie was staring at me saying he knew what I was up to...

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Re: A Friendly Play Through-Investigator Profession
« Reply #9 on: March 01, 2019, 04:41:08 PM »
Calista is now Lv5 Logic, Lv4 PI, and has the opportunistic LTR. She has a magnifying glass and finger printing kit in her personal inventory.



It looks like they are given as promotional awards. I see I already sold the door, but I was wondering if the two other items are needed for something? Like that's maybe what helps with investigations ? Or are they not really needed? -- Tried to sell 'em just as a test and they can't be deleted.

* Just checked the family inventory - Still have the Professional's Frosted Door Investigator's Case Board. These can be sold, if desired. As these pieces aren't necessarily needed. The magnifying glass and finger printing kit are.
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Re: A Friendly Play Through-Investigator Profession
« Reply #10 on: March 01, 2019, 05:55:44 PM »
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...but I was wondering if the two other items are needed for something?
Miraj is using a magnifying glass and dusting for fingerprints in his investigations now, but I don't know if he is using these specific items or if they are simply visuals in the animations.

I have kept all rewards so far and put them in his home. He is fairly well off - 12357 simoleons. Of course, he is rarely home, so the bills are minimal. Like 80 simoleons tops.

I haven't done anything in ways of decorating or building. Guess I'm a bit boring not spending any money. Aside from the bribes. My gosh, the bribes! And to think that a lot of the time, his clients are actually grade school kids ;D I know the Broke family must not be so broke anymore after all the money (hundreds) they've taken. I have purchased the Profession Simoleon Booster lifetime reward to counter those bribe expenses. Since we didn't make it a rule not to, I thought it to be okay.

His logic is still at level 6, and he has solved 15 cases so far. I try to accommodate his wishes as they pop up. Right now, he has one to conduct 10 stakeouts...whew. I've also put in all packs now, only had Ambition installed when I started out. I sold Emit's teleporter and the university bucket. Unfortunately, I couldn't sell the jock as well...

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Re: A Friendly Play Through-Investigator Profession
« Reply #11 on: March 01, 2019, 06:12:20 PM »
PI lv6, Logic Lv5, not sure how many cases or stakeouts done. There doesn't seem to be any records of those things via the game. I haven't been taking personal notes on them.

I have moved Calista into her remodeled house and furnished it a bit more with slightly better furniture. She only had a little over $2000 right now. *Blush*

My best guess is that the magnifying glass and finger printing kit are placed in their inventory to use when needed for a case. Calista used both of them on her last case. Had to dust for prints and snoop for clues.

While she was away from home at the police station, a burglar can and took her $250 toilet. The toilet!! Not the over $1000 laptop on the desk, but the toilet. *Smacking Forehead* -- I just noticed, the couch is missing too. *Sigh* they took off with the couch!! Grr!!

Tips:

If we're to inspect something, and it doesn't give the option, click Map View to look for special icons on the map.

If having a hard time following along with a case. Click on the Opportunity tab for notes on the case.
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Re: A Friendly Play Through-Investigator Profession
« Reply #12 on: March 01, 2019, 06:49:09 PM »
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There doesn't seem to be any records of those things via the game.
If you have the Pervasive Private Eye LTW, then you can hover your mouse over it to see how many cases you have solved out of the required 35. But other than this, there doesn't seem to be a way of learning of it short of keeping tabs yourself. Of course, if you don't have that particular LTW, there isn't much use for knowing how many cases you have solved anyway.

Thanks for reminding me to buy a burglar alarm!
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« Reply #13 on: March 03, 2019, 07:19:53 AM »
Okies, folks. I have completed this challenge, but very likely in the most straightforward, boring manner possible. Miraj is only 7 cases from completing his associated Pervasive Private Eye Lifetime Wish which means, that if he had not read up on logic to begin with, he could have completed both the LTW and the challenge in one go. :-\

I have had my Sim do a few stakeouts most of which were a part of a specific investigation. I also had him use a computer once to report on stakeout just to try it. Other than that, I have kept him working around the clock, actively obtaining cases either from the police station or via a computer at the library. Perhaps twice, he received a call in between cases and was offered one directly from a towns person.

Three times, he solved a bigger special case and was rewarded by the town council with trophies and/or medals. Sometimes, the cases themselves provided a minor reward - he has received two magic gnomes, for instance.

Miraj has gotten to know the entire town in the process of becoming a Private Eye. This could be useful if one is also working on the charisma skill and its associated challenges. Speaking of charisma - I chose consistently to use bribes instead of befriending the Sim I needed information from. I used bribes of 100 Simoleons each time to make sure I was successful. Yes, I often am the impatient type.

I did not build any friendships for Miraj partly due to impatience and partly because it would be rather awkward if his friend or loved one turned out to be the culprit in a case.

Aside from the repetitive element, I think the Investigator profession is a pretty cool one and perfect for storytelling purposes. Miraj will get his LTW, of course, and then he will be ready to begin life in proper :)
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Re: A Friendly Play Through-Investigator Profession
« Reply #14 on: March 03, 2019, 08:49:11 AM »
Calista's stats are: PI lv9, Logic lv7. 11/35 cases done. As of right now.

After a few hiccups I finally got back on track with the game. And after a bit, I too finally realized it's repetitive nature.  Report in, talk to suspects, search for clues, dust for prints. Can do stakeouts and write reports to help in leveling up. It's still been a pretty fun play-through. Each time my game would throw me curve-balls, I'd go back a save and start from that point and learned what to expect for the PI career.

Odd thing - Now that we've found a work-around for the break in issue (by visiting lot when family is home) it seems -very- awkward to be dusting for prints or searching for clues while they family is home.  Calista hasn't gotten yelled at for being inappropriate though so I suppose that's a good thing? *Shrug*

I have added some tips to the 2nd post -
http://www.carls-sims-4-guide.com/forum/index.php?topic=30642.msg490343#msg490343
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Re: A Friendly Play Through-Investigator Profession
« Reply #15 on: March 03, 2019, 11:07:21 AM »
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End-challenge photo of Private Eye Miraj Alvi.


Update: He has completed the Pervasive Private Eye LTW now which has taken him 3 Sim weeks exactly.
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Re: A Friendly Play Through-Investigator Profession
« Reply #16 on: March 03, 2019, 06:13:18 PM »
Congrats @Nindgo Laughed about the not so broke Broke family. Miraj ages up rather handsomely!



Meet Jaxon Slade, slightly panicking P.I. Extraordinaire.

Jaxon: Not panicking.
Watcher: K.... Let me redo: *ahem* Meet Jason Slade, slightly constipated P.I. Extraordinaire.




Name: Jaxon Slade
Gender/Type: Male, Human Sim
Age: Young Adult

Traits: Genius, Perceptive, Loves The Outdoors, Brave (seems doubtful but whatever) and Athletic.
Lifetime Wish: Perceptive Private Eye
Favorites: Indie, Fish and Chips, Blue
Astrological Sign: Taurus

Transferred to Riverview to gather background information on a Person of Interest.
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Re: A Friendly Play Through-Investigator Profession
« Reply #17 on: March 03, 2019, 09:22:42 PM »
This town is weird, no doubt about that.



A lot of the residents have a shoe fetish. Not what I was expecting.



They also like to hold interviews in the bathrooms, not that I am a stranger to bathrooms. No. Wait, that's not what I meant...



Anyway, I've been busy



Real busy


And just when I was about to get the goods on the Person of Importance....my phone rang. I'm no closer identifying this person than I was four days ago. The clock's ticking.


End of day 4:
Investigator L7 'Licensed Snoop'
8 Cases Solved
Charisma and Logic L6
Rewards: Opportunistic, Inappropriate But In A Good Way, Observant
Medals: Investigators Medal of Honor (LOL) and Eagle-Eyed Eavesdropper Medallion
Cheats Used: Needs Static as I felt I better get a hurry on and catch up with you both! lol

Pretty much been doing non-stop Cases and chatting to everyone to build Charisma. I've been blackmailing everyone I can and 'taking' items for "Evidence". Have around 9k in simoleons.

Had a glitch where I couldn't get a case to register as solved so I cancelled it and took another. Apart from that, everything's going well and I'm having fun. It's a pretty cute profession to play through. Wouldn't like to grind it with needs dynamic though to be honest, it would probably be a bit slow-going for me that way.
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Re: A Friendly Play Through-Investigator Profession
« Reply #18 on: March 03, 2019, 10:21:15 PM »
Good captures! Certainly a cool guy you have there :)

I find the Riverview townies a bit bland to be honest, but that's a topic for a different thread.

The animations associated with this profession are quite good, I think. The snooping is really quirky ;D

I got a couple of opportunities at the polics department that wouldn't register as completed, so I cancelled them. I wonder if they are the same that were bugged in your game.
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Re: A Friendly Play Through-Investigator Profession
« Reply #19 on: March 03, 2019, 10:45:02 PM »
I sadly haven't gotten anymore opportunities at the police station since the opportunities glitched game. I ended up deleting that one, since it was a bad save.
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« Reply #20 on: March 03, 2019, 10:59:53 PM »
Yes, it was an opportunity at the Police Station that wouldn't register as complete, guess that is just simply bugged in all games. Something about the modified tomatoes chain and I had to use my psychic powers..or something like that anyway.
I was just thinking how much I like Riverview and wondering why I hadn't played it for so long. I really like the townies especially Hunter Cottoneye and Yuri Ivanov. Something about their bios really tickle me!

Is your save now cooperating with you MrsFlynn? Be a bit tedious to have to start again! 

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Re: A Friendly Play Through-Investigator Profession
« Reply #21 on: March 03, 2019, 11:28:49 PM »
There is something about Hunter isn't there? *Snicker*

Yep, my game is behaving better now.

Calista relaxing by the pool at Jon's party -


I did learn that I need to have her switch to Everyday, or another outfit before saving the game. If saved with the IP outfit on, there's a chance that they'll become invisible. That's happened at least a couple times now. Reset Sim or Nraas MasterController Reset Everything helps. But knowing the work outfit can cause issues helps more.
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« Reply #22 on: March 04, 2019, 12:18:47 AM »
I went back to an earlier save just to see if I could get some of the same glitches to happen. I haven't had any opportunities for the police station come up. But maybe that's for the best?

The only thing that has happened so far is she has turned invisible, due to being saved with her work outfit on. -- That has been fixed.

Calista's stats are:

Week 2 Day 2
PI Lv8, Logic Lv7, Handi Lv4. 9/35 cases done.

In her personal inventory, she's has the Honor Trophy, Magnifying Glass, Fingerprinting Dust Kit, and Yomoshoto Evasion.

In her family inventory she has Professional's Frosted Door, and Investigator's Case Board.

In my game where she was (I think) IP lv9  she had two Festus 44 Stoves, but now I'm kind of wondering where they came from. Work case opportunity or a different opportunity.

Anyway, the reason I ask is to see if either of you have these? And if you know if it's a work opp?
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Re: A Friendly Play Through-Investigator Profession
« Reply #23 on: March 04, 2019, 12:44:57 AM »
It looks like the Festuses? Festus'? Festi? come as a reward from one of the cases: The Case of the Culinary Backstab.

https://sims.fandom.com/wiki/Investigator/cases is a link to all the cases, the one that comes from is about halfway down the page.
Reward for the case is Job Experience, §500, Stove: Festus 44. So you must be able to complete each one more than once.

I recall when I played through the investigator career a while ago I loved some of the mission titles - especially the 'backwashed toothbrush' one.

Edited to Add: I understand that the ones where you have to use your psychic powers are somehow bugged. Something to do with the actual interaction between the PI Career and the Police Station, if I remember rightly. And yes, the only way to get around it that I know of is to cancel the case and try for another one. And a thought that just occurred to me ... does the clothes you wear when going to the police station impact on whether the steps can be finished or not?

Edit to Add 2: Another way to solve your disappearing sim is to send them to a chest of drawers and have them change clothes to one of their normal (non career) outfits.

Edited to Add 3: Any restriction on becoming a celebrity vs not becoming a celebrity? And what about the different lifestates? Would the vampire powers, for example, have any impact on getting people to talk to you ... would changing to a werewolf and howling at the moon cause them confess? Would changing to a fairy and sneaking through the keyhole enable you to steal from them without the victim being any the wiser? Am I just being overly silly now?

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Re: A Friendly Play Through-Investigator Profession
« Reply #24 on: March 04, 2019, 02:30:48 AM »
No restrictions on much to be honest as we just wanted to have fun and enjoy a relaxed game. Being a different life state could definitely have some advantages. But that's ok, each person can tailor it to their level of pain! lol

My sim has me giggling at him quite often, the faces he pulls are ridiculous! I've never seen these grumpy ones ever from him. This is an unplayed sim but just the clone of my fav sim I keep in my bin so I know him well.

The intricacies of some of the cases are fab, so enjoyable to be led around the town interacting with a variety of townie sims in search of the end.

Great to hear your game is behaving now MrsFlynn. I remembered not to save my game while Jaxon was in his work outfit but I had a moment where I thought he'd gone invisible...but nope, just gone up some stairs without me noticing so the camera was still on the ground floor! Hahaha! *Facepalm*
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