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Nuts for Collections
« on: July 27, 2020, 06:19:38 AM »
Nuts for Collections

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Goal

It's probably not just me that is a bit nuts for collections. I know a few Sims that feel the same. So put on your shoes and search the world for all the collectables that are out there.


General Challenge Rules
The General Challenge Rules always apply.

Specific Challenge Rules
  • Sims 4 - Nifty Knitting is not allowed for this challenge
  • Create 2 YA Sims.
  • Spellcasters are allowed to be used. But the spell CopyPasto is not allowed
  • No adding to the household. Except for adopting pets.
  • No moving.
  • You are allowed to use the Buydebug cheat for the sole purpose of purchasing a satellite to prevent abductions.
  • Only the Nature Aspirations are allowed, but you can switch between them as you like.
  • All collections must be displayed on the lot. How you do it is up to you.
  • To counter that some people are very unlucky in getting the last item in a collection, you can buy a Knight of the Octagon Table as a replacement, but you have to deduct 5 points for each Knight.
  • You can only gain money by selling duplicate collection items.
  • It's not allowed to move a moneytree to the family inventory to gain multiple money tree seeds.
  • This challenge ends on Week 3, Day 1, 8 a.m.

Scoring

Spreadheet can be found here

CC (Complete Collections)** -   Give yourself 100 points for all completed collections. Please do not specify which collections you finished when posting.
**A complete collection means obtaining every possible item of any given type with all the expansion content you have installed. More expansions installed may mean you have more items to obtain for a certain collection.

AM (Aspiration Multiplier). This is a multiplier for finishing any of the components of any of the different Nature Aspirations. For level finished you add 5% to your starting multiplier of 1.00.

Total ó Just multiply your Complete Collections and your AM together for your Total.

Here's an example:

It's week 3, Day 1, a.m., so it's time to stop playing. At that point, you have completed the Crystals, Elements, Metals, MySimTrophies, and Postcard collections (again, do not mention specific collection names when posting).But also bought 2 Knight of the Octagon Table to finish one of the collections.  You have also finished 3 Nature Aspirations (12 components) and 2 components of the remaining Aspiration.

5 complete collections = 5 X 100 = 500 pts
Minus 5 points for each Knight of the Octagon Table = 500-10 = 490 pts

AM = 1.00 + (14 components X .05) = 1.00 + .70 = 1.70

Total = 490 X 1.70 = 833

(In case 2 have the exact same score, the number of Knight of the Octagon Table will be used as tie breaker.)

Ch-Ch-Changes
The team does not want to edit and make changes to the ruleset once this event goes live, but we may have to. If an exploit is brought to our attention or we discover something else we reserve the right to ask affected players to redo their effort.

Have Questions?
If you have questions and need clarifications, ask away ó you can either post your questions in this thread or if you feel a question might reveal a particular strategy you are considering, then feel free to PM the team. Choose the My Messages tab > Send Message > Send to Group (show membergroups) > Check the Challenge Board Moderator group.

And the Winner is...
After this event has closed everyone is encouraged to discuss how they approached the event, but the winner especially is expected to do so in detail.

This Event is Now Closed

Player                            CC     AM     Total     
Sruixan16653.00     4995
Nikitachi15703.00     4710
LenaLJ14753.00     4425
GlazeyLady13853.00     4155
Elinoee11703.10     3627
Turoskel13652.10     2866
Eighty8Keys10752.35     2526
Teresa9852.40     2364
ratchie9802.40     2352
Metropolis Man7902.40     1896
TimSim1014802.40     1152
Cuji-teri5901.90     1121
Noyo4902.25     1102
CynKuy3951.10     434

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Re: Nuts for Collections
« Reply #1 on: July 27, 2020, 06:21:06 AM »
Lena wrote this rule set, so I just wanted to give her some props. :) Thanks, Lena.



Changes:

  • Sims 4 - Nifty Knitting is not allowed for this challenge
  • Spellcasters are allowed to be used. But the spell CopyPasto is not allowed



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Re: Nuts for Collections
« Reply #2 on: July 27, 2020, 07:07:09 AM »
Sounds fun I am definitely going to need some help with the scoring apparently 5 months in quarantine has broken my brain lol.

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Re: Nuts for Collections
« Reply #3 on: July 27, 2020, 08:13:32 AM »
We can add holidays this time, right?

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Re: Nuts for Collections
« Reply #4 on: July 27, 2020, 09:39:01 AM »
I love collecting, so am looking forward to this one.

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Re: Nuts for Collections
« Reply #5 on: July 27, 2020, 10:07:48 AM »
Sounds fun I am definitely going to need some help with the scoring apparently 5 months in quarantine has broken my brain lol.

Rachel

I will make up a spreadsheet to help out with the scoring.

We can add holidays this time, right?

Nothing preventing you from doing it in this ruleset.


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Re: Nuts for Collections
« Reply #6 on: July 27, 2020, 10:13:22 AM »
Question...  all packs allowed or will knitting be disallowed?



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Re: Nuts for Collections
« Reply #7 on: July 27, 2020, 10:29:41 AM »
Question would disabling packs be considered cheating or strategy.

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Re: Nuts for Collections
« Reply #8 on: July 27, 2020, 11:56:30 AM »
Can both Sims work on the same aspiration for the multiplier or does each aspiration count only once? I assume that by components you mean that each individual part of an aspiration milestone is counted? So, for Angling Ace, Catch 5 Fish and Fish at 3 different locations each count for .05 or do we only count each milestone once itís completed?

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Re: Nuts for Collections
« Reply #9 on: July 28, 2020, 02:22:12 PM »
Question...  all packs allowed or will knitting be disallowed?

@Teresa, The stuff pack will not be allowed as it comes out less than 30 days before the event starts, so according to the general rules it will not be allowed.

Question would disabling packs be considered cheating or strategy.

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@ratchie, Strategy :)

Can both Sims work on the same aspiration for the multiplier or does each aspiration count only once? I assume that by components you mean that each individual part of an aspiration milestone is counted? So, for Angling Ace, Catch 5 Fish and Fish at 3 different locations each count for .05 or do we only count each milestone once it’s completed?

@reggikko, Yes both can work on the same aspiration.
By components we mean milestones, or levels.

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Re: Nuts for Collections
« Reply #10 on: August 01, 2020, 03:47:35 AM »
"This challenge ends on Week 3, Day 1, 8 a.m."   Just to be sure, this is the 3rd Sunday?

1st day of challenge where we begin = Week 1, Day 1, 8 a.m.
The 2nd Sunday = Week 2, Day 1
The third Sunday = Week 3, Day 1 (ends at 8 a.m. this day)




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Re: Nuts for Collections
« Reply #11 on: August 01, 2020, 03:02:44 PM »
@Mionax Exactly

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Re: Nuts for Collections
« Reply #12 on: August 01, 2020, 07:12:23 PM »
Do you have to gather everything or can you buy/trade items? I generally complete the Snow Globe collection by buying them at the Flea Market. Same with the MySims trophies.

I would guess that the Scientist career is also out since you can only gain money from duplicate items.

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Re: Nuts for Collections
« Reply #13 on: August 02, 2020, 06:41:16 AM »
Do you have to gather everything or can you buy/trade items? I generally complete the Snow Globe collection by buying them at the Flea Market. Same with the MySims trophies.

Buying/trading is fine.

I would guess that the Scientist career is also out since you can only gain money from duplicate items.

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Re: Nuts for Collections
« Reply #14 on: August 02, 2020, 01:22:26 PM »
Since one of the Nature aspirations is spellcaster-based, do I assume that everything spellcaster-related is allowed, as long as it doesn't bring money?

Can we sell collected goods that aren't part of any collection (you usually get a lot of these while fishing, etc.)?

Can we sell harvest we've grown? What about the Money Tree - can we sell its fruit as well?

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Re: Nuts for Collections
« Reply #15 on: August 02, 2020, 01:29:18 PM »
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AM (Aspiration Multiplier). This is a multiplier for finishing any of the components of any of the different Nature Aspirations. For level finished you add 5% to your starting multiplier of 1.00.

Since we have 2 sims, do we add up everyone's completed milestones, or can we count each completed one only once?
For example, if one of my sims completed a certain nature aspiration (all 4 milestones), and the other one only completed the first milestone of the same aspiration, do I count it as a total of 5 (25%), or 4 (20%)?

Another question: can we move items between sims' inventories?

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Re: Nuts for Collections
« Reply #16 on: August 03, 2020, 09:18:14 AM »
Since one of the Nature aspirations is spellcaster-based, do I assume that everything spellcaster-related is allowed, as long as it doesn't bring money?

Can we sell collected goods that aren't part of any collection (you usually get a lot of these while fishing, etc.)?

Can we sell harvest we've grown? What about the Money Tree - can we sell its fruit as well?
I will return on the spell caster part, i need to investigate some things here first.

Regarding 2 and 3, you are only allowed to sell duplicate collectibles. So you cant sell things you collect that are not part of a collection. But you can sell the produce of your plants as they are duplicate of your collection.
Money tree only gives you money right? And not a seed you can sell, if that is the case it cannot be sold.

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AM (Aspiration Multiplier). This is a multiplier for finishing any of the components of any of the different Nature Aspirations. For level finished you add 5% to your starting multiplier of 1.00.

Since we have 2 sims, do we add up everyone's completed milestones, or can we count each completed one only once?
For example, if one of my sims completed a certain nature aspiration (all 4 milestones), and the other one only completed the first milestone of the same aspiration, do I count it as a total of 5 (25%), or 4 (20%)?

Another question: can we move items between sims' inventories?

You count it for both your sims, so you would get to count 5, for a multiplier of 0,25

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Re: Nuts for Collections
« Reply #17 on: August 07, 2020, 07:58:31 AM »
While we've been waiting for the answers to previous questions, I gathered some more:

- Some collectible-based actions give you not only the items, but also simoleons. It's inevitable, you just can't get these items by other means. Is it okay?
- The Eco Innovator Aspiration requires selling at stage 2, joining a career at level 2 and completing the career at stage 3. Which of these are allowed?
- I have stumbled upon quite a common bug with 'Identify All Unidentified Plants' part. Some gathered fruits just don't give the option, no matter the Herbalism level. It is a confirmed bug, you can read here. Is it okay to complete the milestone with a cheat, when we complete the other two parts of the milestone normally, have level 10 herbalism and have gathered all 10 plants?

Dear team, I also kindly ask you to make your decision on Spellcasters at your earliest convenience. I have been practicing quite a lot now, using them, and I'd kind of prefer not to waste time if they end up not being allowed. Thank you.

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Re: Nuts for Collections
« Reply #18 on: August 07, 2020, 12:32:47 PM »
While we've been waiting for the answers to previous questions, I gathered some more:

- Some collectible-based actions give you not only the items, but also simoleons. It's inevitable, you just can't get these items by other means. Is it okay?
- The Eco Innovator Aspiration requires selling at stage 2, joining a career at level 2 and completing the career at stage 3. Which of these are allowed?
- I have stumbled upon quite a common bug with 'Identify All Unidentified Plants' part. Some gathered fruits just don't give the option, no matter the Herbalism level. It is a confirmed bug, you can read here. Is it okay to complete the milestone with a cheat, when we complete the other two parts of the milestone normally, have level 10 herbalism and have gathered all 10 plants?

Dear team, I also kindly ask you to make your decision on Spellcasters at your earliest convenience. I have been practicing quite a lot now, using them, and I'd kind of prefer not to waste time if they end up not being allowed. Thank you.

It took a bit longer time for me as i wanted to be sure exactly what made spellcasters different to normal sims. But it has been decided to allow spell casters, but their spell, CopyPasto is not allowed to be used. I will add that to the rules.

For your other questions:

1. You are not allowed to gain simoleons by any other means than selling duplicates.
2. Same as above, so if any of these give you any simoleons, they are off the table.
3. I have read the whole thread you linked. And to be honest, they have similiar problems, but its not sounding as its happening for everyone and not the same thing. So i think its best we take it up case by case if it should happen for anyone in their final files. So please write the team when/if you get to that point.

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« Reply #19 on: August 07, 2020, 01:29:52 PM »
Thank you for the answers, Lena!

So please write the team when/if you get to that point.

I already did. That is why I started my research and found that link. So, I'm pretty sure that it will happen again in my new file when the event starts. And so, you can already think of what to do.
Thank you for understanding.

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« Reply #20 on: August 12, 2020, 04:33:46 AM »
I've only been playing for about a month (got the free base game but never touched it until now) so I'm still learning things, I just looked on the guide about collectables and I don't see it mentioned there either, is there somewhere in the game where you can see what you have collected and what's missing like there was in sims 3?

I've missed doing challenges since the sims 3 ones ended but this seems like one I could do with just the base game. I always found them a good way of learning game mechanics and the most efficient way of doing things, very helpful for dynasties.

EDIT: I found it! I had noticed that little diamond in inventory but my brain never connected the dots and my mouse never triggered the tool tip either  ::)

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« Reply #21 on: August 15, 2020, 09:11:16 AM »
Do you have to gather everything or can you buy/trade items? I generally complete the Snow Globe collection by buying them at the Flea Market. Same with the MySims trophies.

Buying/trading is fine.


I'm a little unsure with this in regards to plants, does this mean we can buy seed packets or do we have to collect/graft everything?

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« Reply #22 on: August 16, 2020, 05:29:11 AM »
Do you have to gather everything or can you buy/trade items? I generally complete the Snow Globe collection by buying them at the Flea Market. Same with the MySims trophies.

Buying/trading is fine.


I'm a little unsure with this in regards to plants, does this mean we can buy seed packets or do we have to collect/graft everything?

Buying is fine.

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Re: Nuts for Collections
« Reply #23 on: August 16, 2020, 10:01:01 AM »
I just realized this opens tomorrow and I haven't even started planning.  Must make a spreadsheet...

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« Reply #24 on: August 17, 2020, 07:54:31 PM »
Island Living comes out tomorrow, so that's too soon to be allowed for this event. I added a ban in the rules.