Author Topic: Completing an Immortal Dynasty Hints and Tips (Not Questions)  (Read 98052 times)

Offline eisande

  • Proud Player
  • Townie
  • ***
  • Posts: 112
  • Reader, Writer, Gamer
Re: Completing an Immortal Dynasty Hints and Tips
« Reply #75 on: September 13, 2012, 11:44:43 AM »
Oh, not for someone designated to become immortal, I always get them in the self-employment career. I generally do it to get them out of the house and for story purposes.
- Eisande

Offline amyrose

  • Immortal
  • *****
  • Posts: 820
  • Jorja Phoenix
Re: Completing an Immortal Dynasty Hints and Tips
« Reply #76 on: September 13, 2012, 03:17:13 PM »
Oh, not for someone designated to become immortal, I always get them in the self-employment career. I generally do it to get them out of the house and for story purposes.

I can understand doing it for the story. All Agnes does in my Dynasty is paint, and I'm finding it hard storywise. She doesn't really do anything interesting enough to screenshot, so she's not included much.

< br/>
Registered members do not see ads on this Forum. Register here.

Offline cathyknits

  • Watcher
  • ******
  • Posts: 1129
Re: Completing an Immortal Dynasty Hints and Tips
« Reply #77 on: September 14, 2012, 09:06:52 AM »
More on gem collecting:  the Gem-U-Cut machine from Supernatural makes gem collecting even more profitable. The machine costs less than a single heart-shaped cut done through the mailbox, and all cuts are free. All that stuff on the gem collecting page about break-even points and the most profitable cut for each gem is out the window. Just use the highest cut you've unlocked for any gem, and you will make money on the gem.

(Metals still need to be smelted through the mailbox, alas. The break-even point is still around 57 simoleons, until you get to the point where you routinely get multiple ingots back.)
Immortal Dynasty: A Bouquet of Blossoms

Offline Odinsdottir

  • Spline Reticulator
  • Occult
  • ****
  • Posts: 449
  • Artistic, Natural Cook, Cat Person, Insane, Flirty
Re: Completing an Immortal Dynasty Hints and Tips
« Reply #78 on: September 14, 2012, 09:07:45 AM »
I've just done my first remodel of the house from a tiny little shack taking up 1/10th of the lot to a beautiful Victorian brick house.  The only thing is that it's almost empty, as I'm on generation 1 and they're relatively poor.  The screenshots are pitiful so I've used the crates and luggage from the store WA in miscellaneous decor to make it look like they're still unpacking. 
x, EAOdinsdottir.


A human being should be able to change a diaper, plan an invasion, butcher a hog, conn a ship, design a building, write a sonnet, balance accounts, build a wall, set a bone, comfort the dying, take orders, give orders, cooperate, act alone, solve equations, analyze a new problem, pitch manure, program a computer, cook a tasty meal, fight efficiently, die gallantly. Specialization is for insects.

-Robert A. Heinlein

Offline saltpastillen

  • Watcher
  • ******
  • Posts: 2576
Re: Completing an Immortal Dynasty Hints and Tips
« Reply #79 on: September 14, 2012, 04:09:17 PM »
My tip is that if you need to travel for some skills, do it as early as possible in a dynasty. Since the larger the save file you've got the more likely it is for bugs to appear (at least from my personal experience).


Offline Toni

  • Sydrian Bookworm
  • Occult
  • ****
  • Posts: 429
Re: Completing an Immortal Dynasty Hints and Tips
« Reply #80 on: September 14, 2012, 11:53:10 PM »
My tip is that if you need to travel for some skills, do it as early as possible in a dynasty. Since the larger the save file you've got the more likely it is for bugs to appear (at least from my personal experience).

Not only that but with a bigger file, travelling is slow and takes up alot of time. Best to travel early and be able to get skills done fast.

Offline cathyknits

  • Watcher
  • ******
  • Posts: 1129
Re: Completing an Immortal Dynasty Hints and Tips
« Reply #81 on: September 17, 2012, 08:42:23 AM »
Judging from things that have come up in the Challenge threads lately, I might throw this one out:

Consider doing your Dynasty in a town without "combination rabbit holes", where two or more rabbit-hole functions are represented by the same building. Career opportunities don't seem to spawn from rabbit hole careers in combo buildings, and now people are reporting that school opportunities won't complete properly if the school is a combo building.

Unfortunately, this tip would limit people to Sunset Valley, Twinbrook, and Riverview, I think.
Immortal Dynasty: A Bouquet of Blossoms

< br/>
Registered members do not see ads on this Forum. Register here.

Offline Lasnien

  • Townie
  • ***
  • Posts: 246
Re: Completing an Immortal Dynasty Hints and Tips
« Reply #82 on: September 17, 2012, 08:49:28 AM »
Consider doing your Dynasty in a town without "combination rabbit holes", where two or more rabbit-hole functions are represented by the same building. Career opportunities don't seem to spawn from rabbit hole careers in combo buildings, and now people are reporting that school opportunities won't complete properly if the school is a combo building.

Or, consider having all your immortals take a job that's in a singleton rabbit hole at least long enough to round out the career opps. Incidentally, I was wondering why nobody had gotten any career opportunities yet. Looking back, all my (potential) immortals so far in this file have been in the combination rabbit holes. I've since reworked my late game plan to drive them out of those horrid places.

Offline hazelnut

  • Watcher
  • ******
  • Posts: 1561
Re: Completing an Immortal Dynasty Hints and Tips
« Reply #83 on: September 18, 2012, 12:56:02 AM »
I wouldn't do it again but I did supermax charisma in my first Immortal Dynasty.  I left it until the last generation and also kept writing in reserve in case it didn't work out.  (I really didn't want to supermax writing because I'd just finished a Legacy that was infested with writers :).)They all seemed to make friends really easily after a while, as if the charisma challenges were working even without the skill being unlocked.  This was over a year ago, though, so it may have been changed on a patch since then.

Offline Deklitch

  • Nemesis of Reality
  • Watcher
  • ******
  • Posts: 2342
  • Cruising the Danube, Amsterdam=>Budapest Dec 2018
Re: Completing an Immortal Dynasty Hints and Tips
« Reply #84 on: September 22, 2012, 02:52:28 AM »
* Presently I am trying to max self-employed careers and supermax the related skill. Until that is achieved, I purposefully am not permitting that immortal to work on any other skill. After they do that, I intend to give them a rabbit hole career and skills that don't relate to a self-employed career. Founder is my Sculpting Immortal. Silly things are happening constantly that force me to restart.

* I use cats to do the Fishing in the early days, backed up by one or more non-future immortal sims. I then transfer the fish they catch to non-immortal sim members of the household according to a complex formula I work out
        - Lower quality fish go to my mortal gardener/s who use it to fertilize garden
        - Perfect fish go to a Sim who'll hold them for my Fishing Immortal who presents the perfect aquarium LTW
        - Foreign and Rare fish go to a Sim who'll stock a pond with the 10 fish for eternal fishing by my immortal fisher

* If my founder is unable to get someone rich to move in on the first day, they spend the night at the fire station and sleep there. Alternatively, they spend the night at a friend's house ... one of them is currently spending the night with Chauncey Grimm in Midnight Falls.

* Adopted/Time Travel/Cloned kids of the Founder and housemates are helpful in the early days for me at least to help with needed skills and to meet best friend needs. And who knows, Agnes' cloned daughter potentially could be my founder's spouse.

* I've taken to giving my immortal sims very obvious names so that I don't forget who does what. My sim names currently are Sculptor, Painter, Writer, Gardener, Fisher, Photographer, Inventor, Alchemist, Rider, Mixologist, Nectarologist, and their surname is Immortal. Yes, I like planning, and I have decided that it is best to leave writing to almost last along with Alchemy and to have riding rather early in proceedings.

* I use the Biography page in the Scrapbook to keep a track of what needs to happen for each immortal to become immortalised.

* I love the Tabcast item, so much more than the snugabug child swing and that morning routine machine thing.

EDIT
* Bonhilda is great for a laugh, especially the response of 'normal' maids to her'.

Offline Shirin

  • Watcher
  • ******
  • Posts: 1497
Re: Completing an Immortal Dynasty Hints and Tips
« Reply #85 on: September 22, 2012, 03:09:01 AM »
* I use the Biography page in the Scrapbook to keep a track of what needs to happen for each immortal to become immortalised.

This...this is brilliant. I don't even know why I didn't think of it, but I do know I'm going to steal borrow it for my Life States Dynasty.

Offline Deklitch

  • Nemesis of Reality
  • Watcher
  • ******
  • Posts: 2342
  • Cruising the Danube, Amsterdam=>Budapest Dec 2018
Re: Completing an Immortal Dynasty Hints and Tips
« Reply #86 on: September 22, 2012, 06:47:43 AM »
This...this is brilliant. I don't even know why I didn't think of it, but I do know I'm going to steal borrow it for my Life States Dynasty.

I believe I 'borrowed' the idea from someone else, myself. I found doing it in game as opposed to on paper/in a spreadsheet to be much easier for me, and I never forgot to do it.

Offline ratchie

  • Global Moderator
  • Watcher
  • ******
  • Posts: 5183
Re: Completing an Immortal Dynasty Hints and Tips
« Reply #87 on: September 22, 2012, 07:12:08 AM »
I know Anushka uses the scrapbook to write dynasty notes in. I have started using it to write story notes and completed opps.

Rachel
Please follow the forum rules.

Offline Odinsdottir

  • Spline Reticulator
  • Occult
  • ****
  • Posts: 449
  • Artistic, Natural Cook, Cat Person, Insane, Flirty
Re: Completing an Immortal Dynasty Hints and Tips
« Reply #88 on: September 27, 2012, 07:15:43 AM »
Am in the process of failing my first Immortal Dynasty but have spent  so much time with this family I hate to stop playing with them.

@Deklitch I'm going to follow suite with the naming idea.  I like that.  I also adore the tabcast.  I won't be getting Supernatural for aaages but I'd love to have Bonehilda.
x, EAOdinsdottir.


A human being should be able to change a diaper, plan an invasion, butcher a hog, conn a ship, design a building, write a sonnet, balance accounts, build a wall, set a bone, comfort the dying, take orders, give orders, cooperate, act alone, solve equations, analyze a new problem, pitch manure, program a computer, cook a tasty meal, fight efficiently, die gallantly. Specialization is for insects.

-Robert A. Heinlein

Offline Odinsdottir

  • Spline Reticulator
  • Occult
  • ****
  • Posts: 449
  • Artistic, Natural Cook, Cat Person, Insane, Flirty
Re: Completing an Immortal Dynasty Hints and Tips
« Reply #89 on: September 28, 2012, 07:17:38 AM »
Well, I just failed.

My founder , Kensington Mercury, was a klepto and a professional writer and as a YA I had him spending way too much time out stealing cars and not enough time at home on the computer building his career.  He died at level 8 at 95 days.  I also left gardening too late, and the first life fruit bloomed the night my founder and his wife died. I'd seen he was behind on his career so I focused on that then realised he didn't have enough best friends then poof!  Grimmy came.  He and his beautiful wife Penelope, (nee Penny Pincher) died 30 sim minutes apart. 

So next time, earlier gardening, earlier career slogging and get some charisma so that those friends can be made after aging up to elder. 

LFMF!   :-[
x, EAOdinsdottir.


A human being should be able to change a diaper, plan an invasion, butcher a hog, conn a ship, design a building, write a sonnet, balance accounts, build a wall, set a bone, comfort the dying, take orders, give orders, cooperate, act alone, solve equations, analyze a new problem, pitch manure, program a computer, cook a tasty meal, fight efficiently, die gallantly. Specialization is for insects.

-Robert A. Heinlein

Offline saltpastillen

  • Watcher
  • ******
  • Posts: 2576
Re: Completing an Immortal Dynasty Hints and Tips
« Reply #90 on: September 28, 2012, 09:22:21 AM »
Writing is tough! I managed to pull it of, but then it was a race to get the friends. If I ever start again I'll pick something easier like gardening. An easy way to get life fruit in time and if you have a lot of expansions rather easy to supermax. I've had two non immortal sims supermax and max the career during my play, none of them started before being a YA. 

Offline Margerita

  • Immortal
  • *****
  • Posts: 736
Re: Completing an Immortal Dynasty Hints and Tips
« Reply #91 on: September 28, 2012, 09:45:24 AM »
The problem with maxing the writing career before you'll be at least an elder is the reason why my founder in the Schreier did the Journalism career first that way I could have her max it in her own pace later. Super maxing the skill was no problem at all...

Offline Deklitch

  • Nemesis of Reality
  • Watcher
  • ******
  • Posts: 2342
  • Cruising the Danube, Amsterdam=>Budapest Dec 2018
Re: Completing an Immortal Dynasty Hints and Tips
« Reply #92 on: September 30, 2012, 09:27:06 PM »
My latest tip, and one I've actually followed in my current Immortal Dynasty attempt, is to be flexible with your plans, and to have a back-back-back up plan ready in case your plan, back up plan and back-back up plan all fall through, which happened to me.

The failed plans (in my case, finding a spouse for my founder) also provides for interesting (and additional) pictures and situations for the story as well, I've found. And, I suspect it'll make things more interesting (and fun) in the long run (and is probably a better result than either my back-up plan or back-back-up plan).

Oh ... and if the back-back-back up plan fails, either wing it, or have a back-back-back-back up plan ready to go. :D

Dek

Offline Wiry

  • Watcher
  • ******
  • Posts: 1917
  • Resident Genie Expert, Evil Simlord.
Re: Completing an Immortal Dynasty Hints and Tips
« Reply #93 on: October 01, 2012, 03:45:50 PM »
Alchemy is a wonderful skill for dynasties. You eliminate most of your needs with potions, and if you add WitchCraft, you need to spend no time doing anything but skilling or whatever.
William's Wealth and Power Legacy

Fausta Legacy
*Twitch* GENIES!  *Twitch*
"For if Knowledge is Power, then a god am I!"- The Riddler

Offline Kalagorn

  • Nooboo
  • *
  • Posts: 12
Re: Completing an Immortal Dynasty Hints and Tips
« Reply #94 on: October 02, 2012, 03:34:48 AM »
So... let me get this straight. I'm going to start my founder with the Good Sense of Humor, Schmoozer, Natural Cook, Green Thumb and Family-Oriented traits. Her LTW is to be a 5-Star Cook, and her six friends are going to be the Goth family, and the LandGraabs. Now all I want to know is what to do first. Should I get the spouse first (Christopher Steel), or go and start cooking to start skilling? Or should I star with the friends? Should I go sign up for my career? I don't know which is most important. Please help. This is my first try at Immortal Dynasty.

Offline Margerita

  • Immortal
  • *****
  • Posts: 736
Re: Completing an Immortal Dynasty Hints and Tips
« Reply #95 on: October 02, 2012, 03:47:40 AM »
I would say go for the sim you have decided to be the painter first since no portrait means failure. Get the sculpturer soon as well if you want to add a sculpture for the YA stage.
Career, skilling and and getting married can wait a while but the painter can't.
Also don't lock yourself set at all when it comes to the best friends requirement, just go with the flow after all sims can die or move away.

Offline Kalagorn

  • Nooboo
  • *
  • Posts: 12
Re: Completing an Immortal Dynasty Hints and Tips
« Reply #96 on: October 02, 2012, 04:07:27 AM »
I would say go for the sim you have decided to be the painter first since no portrait means failure. Get the sculpturer soon as well if you want to add a sculpture for the YA stage.
Career, skilling and and getting married can wait a while but the painter can't.
Also don't lock yourself set at all when it comes to the best friends requirement, just go with the flow after all sims can die or move away.

I only have the base game, so no sculptures  :-\

Offline Seabody

  • Global Moderator
  • Watcher
  • ******
  • Posts: 5084
Re: Completing an Immortal Dynasty Hints and Tips
« Reply #97 on: October 02, 2012, 04:11:14 AM »
I always accept all gifts in my Dynasty. If I can use the item, I'll use it, and thank the gifter. If I can't use it (e.g a potion that makes a Sim a werewolf), I'll sell it, and thank the gifter. All of my gifts are used.

Offline Ricalynn

  • Watcher
  • ******
  • Posts: 8431
  • Addicted to Dynasties? *shady eyes* Not me.
Re: Completing an Immortal Dynasty Hints and Tips
« Reply #98 on: October 02, 2012, 06:16:40 AM »
I would say go for the sim you have decided to be the painter first since no portrait means failure. Get the sculpturer soon as well if you want to add a sculpture for the YA stage.
Career, skilling and and getting married can wait a while but the painter can't.
Also don't lock yourself set at all when it comes to the best friends requirement, just go with the flow after all sims can die or move away.

To add to what Margerita said, move someone in to do your YA Painting as soon as possible.  Doesn't have to be someone with the painting skill already but that would certainly help.    You say that you plan on being friends with Landgraabs and Goths but without LN to make them vampires, the two older Goths are like 6 days away from elder and usually die in my games very early on.    I tend to not worry about best friends until closer to my elder stage.  Even then some of the best best friends you can make are the ones that you get right at work.  If she's going to be a 5-star chef, then meet the people at work and hang out with them during the working hours to fulfill that need.    Friendships can decay over time so you need to be actively best friends with them at the time when all of your immortality requirements come together.

Welcome to the forum, Kalagorn.
Origin ID: Ricalynn
Current Active Stories: Artie's TS4 Dynasty || Grim Rivalries

Please read and follow the Forum Rules.

Stories: Artie | The Race | Grim Chronicles | Revenge | Licious

Offline ratchie

  • Global Moderator
  • Watcher
  • ******
  • Posts: 5183
Re: Completing an Immortal Dynasty Hints and Tips
« Reply #99 on: October 02, 2012, 06:34:32 AM »
The order I do things in is:
1)Move in the help be it painters,sculptures,cooks or gardeners.Whatever you need.
2)Send someone out to search for seeds and get someone learning how to garden as soon as possible.
3)Get the painter working towards painting portraits.Sculpture working on never melting ice sculptures.
4)Get special seeds into the ground as soon as possible.
5)Have founder work on supermax skill.
6)Work on career.
7)Wait until painter is ready to paint portraits and sculpture is ready to do ice sculptures before having a child.If possible wait until reaching level ten of a career before having a child so you don't miss any days due to maternity leave.
8)Concentrate on making best friends towards the last week or so of elder stage.

Rachel
Please follow the forum rules.