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Re: The Sims 3 Life States Dynasty Challenge
« Reply #150 on: September 19, 2012, 11:23:07 AM »
What would be the unique skill/mausoleum pieces used for the Fortune Teller career? I didn,t see anything listed as unigue skill or museum piece.

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Re: The Sims 3 Life States Dynasty Challenge
« Reply #151 on: September 19, 2012, 11:24:31 AM »
There may not be one, so I would recommend that if you haven't played it through at least once, use an alternate career.



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Re: The Sims 3 Life States Dynasty Challenge
« Reply #152 on: September 19, 2012, 11:26:12 AM »
What would be the unique skill/mausoleum pieces used for the Fortune Teller career? I didn,t see anything listed as unigue skill or museum piece.

Shirin's right.   I'm up to level 9 on a Sim for the Master of Mysticism LTW and she has never received anything from work that could be used as a career reward.   It does require the alchemy skill but alchemy doesn't actually receive a skill certificate apparently.   Even then it's still only one that could count towards your career rewards.   However, the alchemy elixirirs could be used as your 7 mausoleum pieces.
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Re: The Sims 3 Life States Dynasty Challenge
« Reply #153 on: September 19, 2012, 01:36:25 PM »
I have a couple of questions:

  • Could you bring in a child/teen ghost to be brought up with an heir and then eventually become the heir's spouse?
  • Could an imaginary friend be made real, move out of the house and then count as a unique best friend?

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Re: The Sims 3 Life States Dynasty Challenge
« Reply #154 on: September 19, 2012, 02:01:34 PM »
I have a couple of questions:

  • Could you bring in a child/teen ghost to be brought up with an heir and then eventually become the heir's spouse?
  • Could an imaginary friend be made real, move out of the house and then count as a unique best friend?

1 -  I'd feel more comfortable with you waiting - Metro may feel different though.  Considering that spouses/spares aren't held to any type of restrictions - you can wait until the heir is of age to bring in the ghost and cake them up if you wanted.  However, most people would bring in an IF to be a spouse probably earlier rather than later so it's no different than that.  If  you bring that person in though, they have to be the spouse.  There are no other choices for that heir because only spouses and spares are allowed in the house not helpers. 

2 - No.  The only people that can be brought into the house are spouses and spares so the IF would have to be a spouse or it's against the rules. 


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Re: The Sims 3 Life States Dynasty Challenge
« Reply #155 on: September 19, 2012, 02:48:15 PM »
Suppose it takes me a very long time to complete the requirements for my female heir, and she becomes an elder before bringing in the next heir. Can I give her the young again potion as soon as she has met the requirements and then have her get pregnant?

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Re: The Sims 3 Life States Dynasty Challenge
« Reply #156 on: September 19, 2012, 03:27:22 PM »
    I have a couple of questions:


    • Could you bring in a child/teen ghost to be brought up with an heir and then eventually become the heir's spouse?

    1 -  I'd feel more comfortable with you waiting - Metro may feel different though.

    No real need for a debate here — the rules are quite clear — only spouses and spares are allowed in the house. So, bringing in a child/teen ghost is not even an option because children/Teens cannot be spouses.



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    Re: The Sims 3 Life States Dynasty Challenge
    « Reply #157 on: September 19, 2012, 03:54:29 PM »
    Suppose it takes me a very long time to complete the requirements for my female heir, and she becomes an elder before bringing in the next heir. Can I give her the young again potion as soon as she has met the requirements and then have her get pregnant?


    I would assume the answer would be yes as once you complete the requirements an heir can use the young again potion. I can't see anything in the rules that say that an heir has to be brought in immediately you complete all the requirements.

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    Re: The Sims 3 Life States Dynasty Challenge
    « Reply #158 on: September 19, 2012, 03:55:27 PM »

    No real need for a debate here — the rules are quite clear — only spouses and spares are allowed in the house. So, bringing in a child/teen ghost is not even an option because children/Teens cannot be spouses.
    I asked because I was thinking of playing an all-ghost family in Twinbrook and the only starvation ghost in the town is Kid Mugg, who died as a teenager.  Could I move him in and cake him up immediately?

    On a related subject, could I have a normal human founder who completes his tasks and produces an heir as a human, then dies of old age and is brought back with Oh My Ghost?

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    Re: The Sims 3 Life States Dynasty Challenge
    « Reply #159 on: September 19, 2012, 03:59:49 PM »
    I have a similar question to Hazelnut. Would a heir be able to marry an elderly human spouse that dies of old age then bring them back using the oh my ghost opp. Or does a ghost have to be in ghost form when they move in.

    In fact do all spouse need to be the required lifestate when they move in or could we move in Agnes for instance and then get her turned into a vampire.

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    Re: The Sims 3 Life States Dynasty Challenge
    « Reply #160 on: September 19, 2012, 04:12:55 PM »
    The Oh My Ghost opportunity is not banned so you can bring back a spouse that way.   

    Spouses don't have to be a different life state when they move in (Example: Samoht's story) but they do have to be their final life state before you ever have children. 


    @hazelnut - When your heir is YA or later, you can then move in the ghost to be a spouse and cake him up.    Metro and I are still discussing the founder part but part of me feels that in the spirit of the challenge, your founder would have to be his/her final life state at the completion of the tasks.   When Metro becomes free, he'll let me/us know his opinion.
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    Re: The Sims 3 Life States Dynasty Challenge
    « Reply #161 on: September 19, 2012, 07:08:43 PM »
    Final Ruling:

    Founders have to be in their final life state at the time of the requirement completion.   You can have your founder turned at some point but all heirs have to be in their final life state when born.   That's how you pick an heir because they are a different life state then their parent. 

    As for letting a founder or heir die - this is a flat no.  None of your heirs are allowed to die, doing so will be a failure (Total or just not in HOF if you continue).  So if you want a particular ghost, the spouse has to be that ghost to pass it on or you have to start that way from CAS. 
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    Re: The Sims 3 Life States Dynasty Challenge
    « Reply #162 on: September 19, 2012, 07:20:44 PM »
    Thank you Rica,I now have a plan set in place for each heir and a back up plan for each heir just in case.

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    Re: The Sims 3 Life States Dynasty Challenge
    « Reply #163 on: September 20, 2012, 01:49:47 AM »
    We are not allowed to add others than spouses and spares, does this mean that my spare cant have a child on her own born in the house?

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    Re: The Sims 3 Life States Dynasty Challenge
    « Reply #164 on: September 20, 2012, 07:07:35 AM »
    We are not allowed to add others than spouses and spares, does this mean that my spare cant have a child on her own born in the house?

    Well, it's kind of understood that "spouses and spares" mean a direct connection to the most recent heir. That's what it's all about -- completing requirements to do that and bring in more heirs. If you're adding to the household otherwise and not doing the requirements, then it does not work. So, no, you can't do that.

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    Re: The Sims 3 Life States Dynasty Challenge
    « Reply #165 on: September 20, 2012, 11:13:19 AM »
    Has there ever been a ruling on whether the private investigator cases can count as black ops (or, in this case, the 3 opportunities)? I just tried searching on the forum, but couldn't find anything. The cases do show up in the career opportunity slot.
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    Re: The Sims 3 Life States Dynasty Challenge
    « Reply #166 on: September 20, 2012, 11:18:56 AM »
    Has there ever been a ruling on whether the private investigator cases can count as black ops (or, in this case, the 3 opportunities)? I just tried searching on the forum, but couldn't find anything. The cases do show up in the career opportunity slot.

    Absolutely the PI cases count. Anything that is going to fill up an opportunity slot qualifies with the exception of the school and after school opportunities.

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    Re: The Sims 3 Life States Dynasty Challenge
    « Reply #167 on: September 20, 2012, 12:51:01 PM »
    I have a question about werewolves and aging them up. :) My second generation (vampire) is now a young adult. While a teen, she had Gator Wolff as her romantic interest, and I was planning to marry him in eventually. Now, I had to age Gator up with a cake (I hope that was legal, I didn't see anything about caking not being allowed for spouses and he'd been a child for a very long time without aging to teen on his own.) Gator is now a teen, and frankly refuses to let himself be aged up again, cake or no cake. Maybe he wants raw meat instead. I read that there is a bug where a non active household werewolf is stuck in his current agestate (in werewolf form) and doesn't age up as he should. I'm not sure how to shift him out of werewolf form either. When I try to use the cake he cheers as normal, and then just wanders off and starts gnawing on the furniture.

    My question is this - is there an approved way to fix this, or will my heiress just have to break Gator's heart and find herself another eventual spouse?

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    Re: The Sims 3 Life States Dynasty Challenge
    « Reply #168 on: September 20, 2012, 12:53:20 PM »
    The reason he won't age is because he's in werewolf form.  You have to find a way to get him out of werewolf form.  Now it is not illegal to cure Gator of his werewolf curse and then once he's aged up and moved in you could always get him bitten by another member of his family to regain that life state.
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    Re: The Sims 3 Life States Dynasty Challenge
    « Reply #169 on: September 20, 2012, 01:03:54 PM »
    Thanks for the quick reply, I'll see what I can work out then. :)

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    Re: The Sims 3 Life States Dynasty Challenge
    « Reply #170 on: September 20, 2012, 01:16:34 PM »
    Hello!  I'm new here and just discovered all of these wonderful challenges/dynasties.  I've been trying to read through threads carefully to learn rules and terminology, (VERY confusing for a newbie), as I would love to try the Life States Challenge.
     
    However I am unsure if I would be able to reach all of the career placeable reward and skill challenge requirements with only Base, Generations, Pets, and Supernatural installed.  Do I need to get ambitions to even attempt this challenge?

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    Re: The Sims 3 Life States Dynasty Challenge
    « Reply #171 on: September 20, 2012, 01:30:02 PM »
    Hello!  I'm new here and just discovered all of these wonderful challenges/dynasties.  I've been trying to read through threads carefully to learn rules and terminology, (VERY confusing for a newbie), as I would love to try the Life States Challenge.
     
    However I am unsure if I would be able to reach all of the career placeable reward and skill challenge requirements with only Base, Generations, Pets, and Supernatural installed.  Do I need to get ambitions to even attempt this challenge?

    If you ever need help with the rules or terminology just ask and a lot of people have no problem stepping in to answer the questions, or you can always feel free to PM me and I'll respond as quickly as I can.

    You do not need ambitions to do this challenge.  While I think ambitions makes playing the game as a whole more fun, it's definitely not required with the expansions you have.   The only one I'm not entirely certain of at the moment is the skill challenges but I know for a fact you can get the career rewards and 7 mausoleum items taken care of.     I'm going to crunch some more numbers on the skill challenges but it looks like you should be able to do this no problem.

    Just so you know, the other two dynasties are both achievable with just the base game.  You don't have to read the entire thread of both and if you have any generalized questions about either, like I said, feel free to PM me anytime.


    Oh and welcome to the forum! 


    Edit: I just crunched some numbers but if you plan very carefully and you watch some of your Sims to make sure they don't max (reach level 10) a skill they're not supposed to.  You can do it.  Without the collecting skill challenges, you have 40 that you could do and only one of them has ever proven to be so difficult most people give up.  You need 42 total for the dynasty so I think you should be able to handle it with a little micro managing maybe here or there.
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    Re: The Sims 3 Life States Dynasty Challenge
    « Reply #172 on: September 20, 2012, 02:43:35 PM »
    Thank you so much Ricalynn for the reply and welcome :)  I appreciate all the math work!

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    Re: The Sims 3 Life States Dynasty Challenge
    « Reply #173 on: September 20, 2012, 03:00:48 PM »
    Final Ruling:

    Founders have to be in their final life state at the time of the requirement completion.   You can have your founder turned at some point but all heirs have to be in their final life state when born.   That's how you pick an heir because they are a different life state then their parent. 

    As for letting a founder or heir die - this is a flat no.  None of your heirs are allowed to die, doing so will be a failure (Total or just not in HOF if you continue).  So if you want a particular ghost, the spouse has to be that ghost to pass it on or you have to start that way from CAS.

    OK.  I rather liked the idea of all of them being ghosts but I'm not going to buy Supernatural just to start with a non-human founder.  Plan B looms - although the back-story's going to take a heck of a lot of setting up. Hmmm...

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    Re: The Sims 3 Life States Dynasty Challenge
    « Reply #174 on: September 20, 2012, 03:58:12 PM »
    OK.  I rather liked the idea of all of them being ghosts but I'm not going to buy Supernatural just to start with a non-human founder.  Plan B looms - although the back-story's going to take a heck of a lot of setting up. Hmmm...

    There is a way to start with a ghost without having Supernatural.  Just as long as you are patched.  It just means saving a ghost to your bin.   I know I saw an article on SimsVIP about it right before Supernatural came out so you should be able to find it and look at the instructions there.
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