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Re: The Sims 3 Life States Dynasty Challenge
« Reply #450 on: October 03, 2012, 06:12:03 PM »
Question on the Wishing Well - I know it's banned, and am assuming that's for the wishing part, but apparently it can be used as a fishing hole as well. I'm currently working in Lucky Palms, and have never used the well in any way. If we can indeed fish from it, can I send an heir to do only that, from the one pre-placed in the park? (In other words, is the ban on it for the wishes only, or for any interaction beyond "oh look, it's pretty!"?)

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« Reply #451 on: October 03, 2012, 08:28:59 PM »
If we choose to have an imaginary friend spouse, would you be allowed to make them real at the teen stage (for the romantic requirement) or must they be made real at YA or later?
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Re: The Sims 3 Life States Dynasty Challenge
« Reply #452 on: October 03, 2012, 08:33:24 PM »
Question on the Wishing Well - I know it's banned, and am assuming that's for the wishing part, but apparently it can be used as a fishing hole as well. I'm currently working in Lucky Palms, and have never used the well in any way. If we can indeed fish from it, can I send an heir to do only that, from the one pre-placed in the park? (In other words, is the ban on it for the wishes only, or for any interaction beyond "oh look, it's pretty!"?)
Fishing from it is fine in my book but Metro may feel differently so I'll check with him soon.

If we choose to have an imaginary friend spouse, would you be allowed to make them real at the teen stage (for the romantic requirement) or must they be made real at YA or later?

They must be made at YA or later to be a spouse. 
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Re: The Sims 3 Life States Dynasty Challenge
« Reply #453 on: October 03, 2012, 08:53:33 PM »
Thanks, Rica :)

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« Reply #454 on: October 03, 2012, 11:36:37 PM »
They must be made at YA or later to be a spouse.

Really?  I must have missed this somehow.  Why does it matter when the Invisible Friend is made real?
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Re: The Sims 3 Life States Dynasty Challenge
« Reply #455 on: October 03, 2012, 11:50:49 PM »
Really?  I must have missed this somehow.  Why does it matter when the Invisible Friend is made real?

Spouses can only be moved in when the heir is of marriageable age. For IFs, this means that all of their traits will be random. It also stops the spouse from 'helping' the household out. See here for the original precedent on spouses being allowed to move in only when the heir is of marriageable age, and here for the specific details on IFs.

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« Reply #456 on: October 04, 2012, 12:00:15 AM »
Ok, thank you.  :)
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Re: The Sims 3 Life States Dynasty Challenge
« Reply #457 on: October 04, 2012, 03:25:00 AM »
So, I think this came up before but can you refresh my memory? Say a normal Sim was born heir, but you wanted them to be a werewolf. Could you have them bitten so they can be that life state, as long as 1) there was no previous werewolf heir 2) you don't use a life-state-changing elixir 3) they do it before they complete the requirements and produce an heir?
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Re: The Sims 3 Life States Dynasty Challenge
« Reply #458 on: October 04, 2012, 03:43:19 AM »
So, I think this came up before but can you refresh my memory? Say a normal Sim was born heir, but you wanted them to be a werewolf. Could you have them bitten so they can be that life state, as long as 1) there was no previous werewolf heir 2) you don't use a life-state-changing elixir 3) they do it before they complete the requirements and produce an heir?

Adding to this question, because I have one quite similar.
What happens if your heir becomes another life state by accident? Like when your heir dies, can it become a ghost and are you allowed to continue that way? Or when your heir accidentally gets bitten by a vampire? Of course as long as you didn't have a heir of that life state before.
Is it ok to continue or do you have to change your heir back or is it game over?

Edit: I assume it at least has to happen before this heir tried for a baby, right?
Another edit: I also assume that this can only happen with a life state you didn't have yet changing to another life state you didn't have yet. For instance, if you have a human heir, you're not allowed to have another human heir and change that one to vampire, because the next heir always have to be another life state. But if you have a fairy heir plus human spouse and they make a human baby, is it allowed that that human heir changes to a vampire?
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Re: The Sims 3 Life States Dynasty Challenge
« Reply #459 on: October 04, 2012, 06:47:58 AM »
I really don't hope you all mind my double post. I felt it needed a new post, since it is about something else.

    This is the list of 5000+ point wishes I put together when testing for the Final Wishmaster's Challenge.  It only includes base game/Ambitions/Generations/Pets wishes and is incomplete at that - but it's a start.

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Athletic: Reach level 10; work out for 12 hours straight (available for athletic Sims only)  Correction: available for any Sim but only >5000 points with relevant LTW (includes Martial Arts Master and careers requiring athletic)
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Martial Arts: Reach level 10; become grand master of tournament; meditate for 48 hours; break 500 boards

I want to add that my Sim reached level 10 athletic and this is required for her career, since she is an Acrobat, but the wish to train for 12 hourse strait is only worth 4000 for her unfortunately.
With Martial Arts I got a wish for 5000 "meditate for 24 hours", so that's a lot easier then the 48 hours and this can be added to the list.

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Re: The Sims 3 Life States Dynasty Challenge
« Reply #460 on: October 04, 2012, 06:50:13 AM »
All heirs have to be their final life state before their requirements are finished.  Requirements must be finished in order for heir to legally born.  So the Sim would have to be their final life state before the next generation is tried for.

No heir is allowed to die.  If an heir dies for any reason, then it's a failure and you either start over or keep going without being in HoF.

I have never had a Sim of mine receive a vampire bite or werewolf bite where I didn't choose for them to get that so I don't think it's autonomous for a townie to try and turn your Sim without your permission. 

If you have a couple and one of them is a fairy and the other is a human but you're really wanting something like a vampire, turn the spouse into a vampire and then try for baby.

The only time I've received a human child since Supernatural came out was when a ghost was involved or a human was involved.  Human spouses can be turned into everything but a witch so really you should be making sure that the spouse is the life state that you want the child to be before you try for baby.    If two ghosts have a baby, you'll always get a ghost it seems.   I tried this recently so if you're worried about getting a human from a ghost.  See if you can sneak in some Logic skill for the ghost potion and see how that works. 

In the case of a human child that you want to be something else, can it be bitten to change?  Metro and I had previously talked about the moment an heir is born they are their final life state.  The only one that could change was the founder but I will bring it back up with him and see where we stand on this.
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Re: The Sims 3 Life States Dynasty Challenge
« Reply #461 on: October 04, 2012, 07:09:30 AM »
Oh my! My spouse has a midlife crisis and I just reread the rules for something else and found that is not allowed... And I just promised many Midlife Crisis wishes, but fortunately I haven't fulfilled one yet.
What do I do about it? It lasts for 4 days and I can't do anything else but wait...

Edit: Thanks for all the answers about changing life state Rica!
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Re: The Sims 3 Life States Dynasty Challenge
« Reply #462 on: October 04, 2012, 07:13:33 AM »
Do you mean the midlife crisis reward, or the midlife crisis LTW? Becasue they are two different things.

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Re: The Sims 3 Life States Dynasty Challenge
« Reply #463 on: October 04, 2012, 07:16:10 AM »
Uhm... neither I think.
My Sim became an adult and now he has a Midlife crisis moodlet which lasts for 4 days and all these funny wishes come up.
Is this something else then ment in the rules? (fingers crossed)

What do you mean by midlife crisis reward and midlife crisis LTW?
(I just found the midlife crisis LTR, do you mean that?)
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Re: The Sims 3 Life States Dynasty Challenge
« Reply #464 on: October 04, 2012, 07:18:52 AM »
That Midlife Crisis is allowed. The banned Midlife Crisis is a Lifetime Reward you can purchase that changes your traits.

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« Reply #465 on: October 04, 2012, 07:20:07 AM »
Sorry, I meant to ask if your sim had the LTW or the random midlife crisis that come from aging up to adult. As far as I understand, the midlifecrisis that come from aging is allowed. It's part of the regular game mechanics and there is no way to predict if you will get it or not.

It's the LTR that's not allowed since it allows you to change traits.

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Re: The Sims 3 Life States Dynasty Challenge
« Reply #466 on: October 04, 2012, 07:23:19 AM »
Ah! Thank you both! I got a little worried there...

Metro or Ricalynn, is it possible to add in the rules that it is the Midlife Crisis LTR that is not allowed? To prefent future confusion :)
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Re: The Sims 3 Life States Dynasty Challenge
« Reply #467 on: October 04, 2012, 09:51:58 AM »
All heirs have to be their final life state before their requirements are finished.  Requirements must be finished in order for heir to legally born.  So the Sim would have to be their final life state before the next generation is tried for.

No heir is allowed to die.  If an heir dies for any reason, then it's a failure and you either start over or keep going without being in HoF.

I have never had a Sim of mine receive a vampire bite or werewolf bite where I didn't choose for them to get that so I don't think it's autonomous for a townie to try and turn your Sim without your permission. 

If you have a couple and one of them is a fairy and the other is a human but you're really wanting something like a vampire, turn the spouse into a vampire and then try for baby.

The only time I've received a human child since Supernatural came out was when a ghost was involved or a human was involved.  Human spouses can be turned into everything but a witch so really you should be making sure that the spouse is the life state that you want the child to be before you try for baby.    If two ghosts have a baby, you'll always get a ghost it seems.   I tried this recently so if you're worried about getting a human from a ghost.  See if you can sneak in some Logic skill for the ghost potion and see how that works. 

In the case of a human child that you want to be something else, can it be bitten to change?  Metro and I had previously talked about the moment an heir is born they are their final life state.  The only one that could change was the founder but I will bring it back up with him and see where we stand on this.

Okay, so just to make sure, no heirs can change life state, only the founder can ever do that. Correct?

The reason I was concerned is I am following several Life States Dynasty stories and a bunch of them ended up with normal Sims instead of the spouse's life state, but now you mention it I think they all involved ghosts. All right, panic averted! Thanks Rica :) I'll keep the Ghost Potion in mind when I get there.
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Re: The Sims 3 Life States Dynasty Challenge
« Reply #468 on: October 04, 2012, 09:55:56 AM »
Okay, so just to make sure, no heirs can change life state, only the founder can ever do that. Correct?

The reason I was concerned is I am following several Life States Dynasty stories and a bunch of them ended up with normal Sims instead of the spouse's life state, but now you mention it I think they all involved ghosts. All right, panic averted! Thanks Rica :) I'll keep the Ghost Potion in mind when I get there.

Just remember - I still need to talk to Metro about the heirs once again to make sure we're on the same page but for now just assume you have to live with the human heir.  I promise I'll get back to you guys as soon as I can on that.
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« Reply #469 on: October 04, 2012, 10:24:14 AM »
Okay, thanks Rica! I just want to avoid humans at all cost in this dynasty, since there are so many more interesting options.
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Re: The Sims 3 Life States Dynasty Challenge
« Reply #470 on: October 04, 2012, 10:47:53 AM »
Also, I don't believe the rules say the heir has to be the same life state as the spouse.

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Re: The Sims 3 Life States Dynasty Challenge
« Reply #471 on: October 04, 2012, 11:19:14 AM »
Just remember - I still need to talk to Metro about the heirs once again to make sure we're on the same page but for now just assume you have to live with the human heir.  I promise I'll get back to you guys as soon as I can on that.

Metro and I talked and it was as I remember it.   The only heir allowed to change life states is the founder which has to be done before the final requirements are met and/or the next heir is tried for. 


If you have already changed the life state of your heir, you're allowed to keep going but let us know if it's going to be in a story that it was done before today so we don't see it later and try to tell you you've failed.
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« Reply #472 on: October 04, 2012, 11:27:24 AM »
Oh the generation I was considering it for hasn't even been born yet. I was just planning ahead :) Thank you!
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Re: The Sims 3 Life States Dynasty Challenge
« Reply #473 on: October 04, 2012, 01:16:12 PM »
*Gems from board breaking - Martial Arts Skill --  Gems are allowed only through board breaking because it requires level 10 in the skill as well as a skill challenge to actually get them.

Do these have to be 7 different gems?
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« Reply #474 on: October 04, 2012, 01:20:19 PM »
The 7 items don't have to be unique from each other just unique from the items used by other heirs.  So if you wanted to use 7 spire cut tiberium - you could.
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