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Re: Completing an Immortal Dynasty Hints and Tips (Not Questions)
« Reply #600 on: June 24, 2013, 08:14:03 PM »
You can even make your founder a ghost. There is no rule against it.

But no, an already existing ghost cannot be heir, only spouse; and you have 50% chance the offspring would be ghost.

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« Reply #601 on: June 24, 2013, 08:42:17 PM »
Just wanted to add, if for whatever reason you really do want a ghost heir, you can have both the parents drink the Ghost Potion before trying for baby. I'm not sure it's a 100% guarantee, but it may be worth a shot!



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« Reply #602 on: June 24, 2013, 09:19:25 PM »
Double ghost potions aren't 100%. I used them in my Life States Dynasty for generation 7, and the first pregnancy of the parents produced a non-occult daughter. The second pregnancy produced a ghost baby. It may be because of when the chimes sounded - on the first pregnancy, the chimes sounded at the second Try for Baby, while the second pregnancy sounded on the first one.

Also, when I turned that ghost into a normal human with ambrosia, she also does the ghost float (and apparently my Google-fu says that this is Working As Intended).

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« Reply #603 on: June 25, 2013, 07:46:14 AM »
Two ghosts will always have a ghost but Ghost potions are temporary not permanent so that may be some human leaking through. 

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« Reply #604 on: June 25, 2013, 10:21:46 AM »
Thanks for the heads up. Maybe Metro should update his rules regarding ghosts in the Immortal Dynasty, it would prevent others from making fatal mistakes. Just a thought.

As I said, I don't mind that I just violate a rule by rezzing Chester Swain for the Oh My Ghost opportunity, as my founder got another sculpting opp eight days before elder and completed it to atone for that. I sent Ches back to the Netherworld and put his grave back in the mausoleum. I already violated the rules by having testingcheats up. I'm just glad that I got people thinking about ghosts in the Dynasty because they aren't technically banned but the rule say nothing about ghosts being heirs. Don't worry, none of my Dynasty heirs will be a ghost baby.  ;)

BTB, I could define the term "supermax" and point out that this forum coined the term in my blog so people who don't come to this forum would know what it meant. I just want to show off how *I* would do the skill challenges as a guideline for those wanting to try those things.
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Re: Completing an Immortal Dynasty Hints and Tips (Not Questions)
« Reply #605 on: June 25, 2013, 10:29:00 AM »
Thanks for the heads up. Maybe Metro should update his rules regarding ghosts in the Immortal Dynasty, it would prevent others from making fatal mistakes. Just a thought.

As I said, I don't mind that I just violate a rule by rezzing Chester Swain for the Oh My Ghost opportunity, as my founder got another sculpting opp eight days before elder and completed it to atone for that. I sent Ches back to the Netherworld and put his grave back in the mausoleum. I already violated the rules by having testingcheats up. I'm just glad that I got people thinking about ghosts in the Dynasty because they aren't technically banned but the rule say nothing about ghosts being heirs. Don't worry, none of my Dynasty heirs will be a ghost baby.  ;)

BTB, I could define the term "supermax" and point out that this forum coined the term in my blog so people who don't come to this forum would know what it meant. I just want to show off how *I* would do the skill challenges as a guideline for those wanting to try those things.

I'm slightly offended since I'm the one that takes care of the rules most days for Metro.  There's nothing that needs changing except the new content.

Ghosts aren't banned.  What made you think ghosts were banned?   Ghosts can be founders, spouses, heirs, and spares.  The rules are very careful to mention that the only ghosts that can be resurrected are ones that are dead when the game starts but those ghosts can be rezzed using philosopher's stone, Oh My Ghost Opp, Genie wish and I think there is one more.  They just can't have ambrosia.

However, heirs can't die to become ghosts.  That is also very clear in the rules.

Oh and sending a ghost to the netherworld is technically killing it which is also against the rules.

I understand that you want to blog about how you would do it and that's fine. I'm not trying to discourage you.  Don't forget to ask Pam if it's ok to link that blog here due it's possible competition to our guide.  You may not see it as such but it's a big deal as this is a business as well as a guide and forum.


Edit to add:  Heirs have to be born to the former generation so I think the confusion lies in someone saying a ressurected ghost can't be an heir.  Which is true.  Heirs can't die therefore they can't be resurrected as a ghost.  Heirs that are born ghosts are very much allowed and within the rules.
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Re: Completing an Immortal Dynasty Hints and Tips (Not Questions)
« Reply #606 on: June 25, 2013, 11:48:21 AM »
BTB, I could define the term "supermax" and point out that this forum coined the term in my blog so people who don't come to this forum would know what it meant. I just want to show off how *I* would do the skill challenges as a guideline for those wanting to try those things.

I don't see the point in use the word supermax. You already have the tittle and subject of the blog: Sims3 skills challenges and how to perform them. The Carl's guide is sometimes outdated and far from complete in that subject.



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« Reply #607 on: June 25, 2013, 11:53:25 AM »
I don't see the point in use the word supermax. You already have the tittle and subject of the blog: Sims3 skills challenges and how to perform them. The Carl's guide is sometimes outdated and far from complete in that subject.

Actually that's why we have the comments section now so people can post there how to do certain things and get questions answered.
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Re: Completing an Immortal Dynasty Hints and Tips (Not Questions)
« Reply #608 on: June 25, 2013, 12:11:41 PM »
I mean it is not incompatible. We here have the guide that is in the style of warfreak's guides of Sims2 in Gamefaqs but if he wants to make a blog about how to perform skilll challenges this is an specific subject and i don't see it incompatible with the guide here.

What i don't see is the usage of the specific word "supermax" that have no meaning outside this forum.

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« Reply #609 on: June 25, 2013, 01:29:07 PM »
This thread is for sharing Hints and Tips to complete the Immortal Dynasty, any discussion about if another Blog or Website could better provide information for a challenge on Carl and Pam's Sims 3 Forum, part of Carl's Guides where all the information you need is easily found already, is off-topic for this thread.
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« Reply #610 on: June 29, 2013, 12:22:11 AM »
To anyone playing in Dragon Valley: Find the homeless townies and bring some of them into the household. Seriously, most of them have high points in cooking, gardening, and some misc. skill. Combine that with their ages and you have a sim who can fill two or three different skill requirements on their own.

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« Reply #611 on: July 28, 2013, 03:58:59 AM »
Someone asked on the official dynasty thread about what LTW would be best suited for a particular SuperMax, and it occurred to me that might be useful for all the skills. So here is the benefit of my considerable expertise ;D It's a list of the Lifetime Wish(es) for each skill that you would automatically complete by SuperMaxing. That is to say, usually they require you to max the skill and complete one of the challenges. For example, the first one, Alchemy Artisan, requires you to master Alchemy and also complete the Alchemists Anonymous challenge (throwing 50 elixirs at other Sims).
 
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Gardening: The Perfect Garden
Instruments: One Sim Band (the opportunities for Guitar/Bass/Drums/Piano Star apply across instruments, so learning more than one can be helpful)
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Nectar Making: Bottomless Nectar cellar
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Re: Completing an Immortal Dynasty Hints and Tips (Not Questions)
« Reply #612 on: July 30, 2013, 09:42:01 PM »
There's also Bottomless Nectar Cellar with Nectar Making.

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« Reply #613 on: July 31, 2013, 04:52:32 AM »
I left that out on purpose, but I suppose I could add it. Because of how much time it would take to make all of that nectar, and the much easier solution to use nectar collected in France (or purchased at the consignment shop) and stored through the generations, I tend to think of them as loosely connected.
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« Reply #614 on: July 31, 2013, 07:27:52 PM »
That is true, but the way I look at it, by the time you finish Supermaxing Nectar Making, you'll have achieved the LTW anyway. :)

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« Reply #615 on: July 31, 2013, 09:19:27 PM »
I suppose . . . I've never SuperMaxed Nectar Making before, but I see that it requires you to make at least 200 bottles of nectar, including 15 different flavour combinations, 400 bunches of grapes, and 40 bins of fruit. It seems to me that you could very efficiently complete this, with great planning, with only the required 200 bottles of nectar. In order to complete the LTW with that and only your own made nectar, each bottle would have to be worth §250 on average. I don't know how likely that is, so I can't say for certain it would be automatic, but I will add it to the list.
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« Reply #616 on: July 31, 2013, 09:34:35 PM »
I was able to fulfill Bottomless Nectar Cellar with no more than 80 bottles of nectar made by my nectar maker. Remember that nectar's value appreciates over time, which certainly helps to complete the LTW.
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« Reply #617 on: July 31, 2013, 09:51:48 PM »
I average around §400 per bottle at making, so Trip is right, at the 200 bottles for the supermax, I've well and truly achieved the Bottomless Cellar requirements.
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« Reply #618 on: August 03, 2013, 04:34:25 PM »
I need tips from all of you on how to stop feeling bored halfway. I am bored in Gen 3 itself because all the skilling and stuff actually results in much less story telling :'(
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« Reply #619 on: August 06, 2013, 08:53:19 AM »
Hmmm.... Play it slower? Also, maybe try pacing the skilling bits: figure out how much you need to do per day or life stage to get the requirements done... And when you figure that out, let your sim goof off the rest of the time, and do things that might be more fun.
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« Reply #620 on: August 20, 2013, 02:32:36 AM »
I just found out today that you can see a potential spouse's family tree once they go steady. I'd highly recommend checking any future spouse out this way along with choosing invite household to avoid any nasty surprises. At gen 6 I had my sim get married and uh oh - 3 kids and a dog that won't fit and no other adults in the household.

Don't plan on using IFs? Don't get the mail. Even if you don't put them on the ground later, they still somehow have real selves that flirt with your happily married locked safely away immortals, turning them into cheaters. They also get in the way.

Another minus for witches: love charm also turns happily married Sims into cheaters, and yes, they do randomly fire blast others and toadify them.

For a fast arstist to do good quality portraits (when you're in a pinch, like your artist dies right before you need them) use the cheap cerebralising brain enchancing machine to level them up to 10, and the expensive one to change their traits to make them artistic perfectionists. Then have them paint small pictures. Only accept brilliant/masterpiece picutres. You can usually tell as soon as the first paint is on the canvas which painting it is going to be. Learn which ones are the masterpieces and brilliant paintings. Finishing off those two skill challenges quickly will help to raise the value of their paintings and the chance of your later portrait being a masterpiece. Getting the 30 paintings to paint faster doesn't really matter until after you get that all-important portrait done. Later you can remove the perfectionist trait to make adding to their painting count faster. Give them a wish enhancing potion as soon as you move them in, and you should have 30k LTHP very quickly to get the Extra Creative LTR. Doing it this way you can have high value paintings in a day or two, ready for that last minute portrait.

In Sunset Valley, the Alvi family are actually a pretty neat score. Iqbal can do the fishing, gardening and/or cooking (depending on your founder), VJ can be your sculptor, and his little brother can paint. Any one of the 3 could do photography. There are plenty of other ways to make fast money - you don't need Aggie if you have University Life.


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« Reply #621 on: August 20, 2013, 03:16:08 AM »
Not getting the mail at all, if you have Seasons, is a bad idea. It will get full of gifts and letters and bad stuff can happen. IFs do not always have real selves--that sounds like a glitch. As for witches, that depends on personality. I have two witches in the house that have never autonomously cast a spell at anyone.
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« Reply #622 on: August 20, 2013, 03:26:34 AM »
Hmm good point about the mail. Perhaps just never letting the toddlers have them would be enough?

Another thing to remember - field trips sometimes give skills, which can be a pain when you're trying to land opportunities for other skills.

If you have trouble with snow days reducing your kids' performance at school (or rather, not allowing them to improve it without tutoring), get the weather machine LTR thing. The night before, set the weather to sunny. If it starts snowing any time in between then, set it to sunny again, and you should be ok most of the time for school the next day.

If you care about your immortals happiness, give them the insane trait if you plan on locking them up alone, so they can talk to themselves, and the hates the outdoors trait so that they don't go stir crazy.

Don't lock all of them up together with spouses. I had gen 1 and gen 2 with gen 2's spouse in together, and gen 1 STOLE gen 2's spouse! I didn't think that it would be possible. Right up until I failed I kept getting messages about her being faithful to him, too! As well as plenty of cheating messages, which was totally weird. After he died, mother and daughter finally reconciled.

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« Reply #623 on: August 20, 2013, 07:48:31 AM »
I placed the IF dolls on a community lot in my life states dynasty. I can't stand those things, but that did the trick.

I've been abusing the brain-enhancing machines quite a bit in my dynasty, especially for my painters, but I had them supermax painting just by painting small paintings and merely hoping that they were brilliant or masterpieces. Looking for masterpieces never even crossed my mind!
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« Reply #624 on: October 03, 2013, 10:18:51 AM »
Double-post alert!

Keep horses and special seeds very far apart. I just failed a dynasty three generations in because my horse ate a life plant seed, which the game counts as eating a life fruit, extending her lifespan and killing my dynasty.
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