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Re: The Sims 3 Immortal Dynasty Challenge
« Reply #375 on: August 30, 2010, 06:08:50 PM »
Luckily they both survived...but Chizue's elder spouse Billy (non-immortal) had become a pile of ashes without my noticing!  That's okay under the rules, right?  (Though I really was sad for poor Billy.)

Yes, accidental deaths for spouses, means you just carry on. An accidental death for an immortal = game over (assuming it happens before earning the right to carry a death flower).

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« Reply #376 on: August 30, 2010, 09:10:22 PM »
My Founder who is in the Culinary Career has already completed an opportunity called Learn a Recipe in which he learned Ratatouille.  Just recently he got another opportunity called Learn a Recipe in which he can learn Fish & Chips.  Do these count as 1 opportunity because they have the same name, or can I count them as 2?

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« Reply #377 on: August 30, 2010, 09:16:16 PM »
@Aria, I think it's okay to count them as 2 opportunities even though they have the same name. The important thing is if these are going to be BlackOps then no one else can claim them.

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« Reply #378 on: August 31, 2010, 09:19:04 AM »
Hi! Does one have to fulfill ALL the seven challenges BEFORE having the right to eat ambrosia & deathflower in the inventory? Or fulfill these tasks one at a time, earning ambrosia etc along the way to keep them immortal? Pls clarify... :)

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« Reply #379 on: August 31, 2010, 09:29:02 AM »
Hi! Does one have to fulfill ALL the seven challenges BEFORE having the right to eat ambrosia & deathflower in the inventory? Or fulfill these tasks one at a time, earning ambrosia etc along the way to keep them immortal? Pls clarify... :)

Hi athena, welcome to the forum. There are 8 separate requirements for an immortal to eat Ambrosia for the first time. All 8 must be done.

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« Reply #380 on: August 31, 2010, 10:30:17 PM »
I saw Pams post on twins and thought that was pretty neat, how they are rare when you don't have the fertility treatment and don't watch kids channel or listen to kids radio.  I guess it is not that rare.  Agnes just had twin girls in my dynasty.  I about fell off my chair.  So now, you have to choose who is going to be the immortal one?  That is going to be hard to do.  I just updated my story on the twins, so this is not going to be easy.


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Re: The Sims 3 Immortal Dynasty Challenge
« Reply #381 on: August 31, 2010, 10:56:59 PM »
Agnes just had twin girls in my dynasty.  I about fell off my chair.  So now, you have to choose who is going to be the immortal one?  That is going to be hard to do.  I just updated my story on the twins, so this is not going to be easy.

Your targeted immortal is the first of the twins that you needed to name—the firstborn.

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« Reply #382 on: September 01, 2010, 12:03:43 AM »
Several dynasties have had twins.  If that happens in Gen 7, do we have permission to move out the extra child as soon as s/he reaches Young Adult?  If not, there will be no room for Gen 8.
 
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Re: The Sims 3 Immortal Dynasty Challenge
« Reply #383 on: September 01, 2010, 12:49:09 AM »
Several dynasties have had twins.  If that happens in Gen 7, do we have permission to move out the extra child as soon as s/he reaches Young Adult?  If not, there will be no room for Gen 8.

Another option would be to allow the 7th generation female targeted immortal to eat Ambrosia as an adult and let her twin eventually pass on so the immortal could then get pregnant with #8. I don't know. I don't like either option to be honest because they're huge concessions to the rules.

Maybe the simplest thing would be to allow a restart from a previous save to try again for a single delivery. That's probably the option I have the fewest problems with.

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« Reply #384 on: September 01, 2010, 01:39:15 AM »
I honestly never understood why have the 7th generation immaculate conception rigamarole in the first place.

...do we have permission to move out the extra child as soon as s/he reaches Young Adult?  If not, there will be no room for Gen 8.

Why no room for Gen 8?  There's obviously some element here that I'm missing. 7th spouse, twin kid...why not wait for them to die like all the other generations did?

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« Reply #385 on: September 01, 2010, 01:53:06 AM »
I think getting twins born to generation 6 would be rather uncommon. The spouse of gen 6 would have to die after the conception but before the birth to allow 2 babies into the household because 6 generations of immortals and future immortal plus spouse of future immortal is 7 family members already with just room for 1 more.

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« Reply #386 on: September 01, 2010, 02:24:54 AM »
I think getting twins born to generation 6 would be rather uncommon. The spouse of gen 6 would have to die after the conception but before the birth to allow 2 babies into the household because 6 generations of immortals and future immortal plus spouse of future immortal is 7 family members already with just room for 1 more.

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I see that the ultimate goal is to have 8 immortals under one roof, but I don't see anything saying that no more than 8 family members can live in the house. Is that what I'm missing?
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« Reply #387 on: September 01, 2010, 02:42:08 AM »
@Pam, what's your opinion?

I agree with Twinmum that 7th generation twins would be very unlikely.  If everyone has died except the first 5 immortals, then you've got the generation 6 targeted immortal and his/her spouse in the house.  That's taking up 7 of the 8 slots and the baby will be a singleton.  Only if the spouse dies before the baby is born is there even a chance for twins.  I say let the rules stand and if that freak situation actually happens, it's the end of the Dynasty.  So be sure the father of the 7th generation isn't Elderly and near death, and make sure he has no accidents.

@LlamaMama:  I think the part you're missing is that the household will only hold 8 Sims.  It's not an immaculate conception at all.  It's just the 7th generation female getting pregnant without moving the father in because otherwise there would be no pregnancy possible.  The game won't allow pregnancy if there are 8 Sims already in a house. 
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« Reply #388 on: September 01, 2010, 02:46:03 AM »
Can you please quote the rule that says the house only has room for 8 sims? Sorry to be a pain, but I just don't see that.

Edit: Oh! I never knew that there was a game limitation of only 8 sims to a household! Is that per lot, even if there are separate dwellings on the same lot?
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Re: The Sims 3 Immortal Dynasty Challenge
« Reply #389 on: September 01, 2010, 02:53:51 AM »
Yes, the limit of 8 applies to each lot, regardless of how many houses you may have built on that lot.

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Re: The Sims 3 Immortal Dynasty Challenge
« Reply #390 on: September 01, 2010, 08:43:12 AM »
If everyone has died except the first 5 immortals, then you've got the generation 6 targeted immortal and his/her spouse in the house.  That's taking up 7 of the 8 slots and the baby will be a singleton.

Ack! I don't why I didn't think of generation 6's spouse being in the house at the same time. Of course. It's a total non-issue. Thanks Pam.

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« Reply #391 on: September 01, 2010, 11:07:38 AM »
Can you please quote the rule that says the house only has room for 8 sims? Sorry to be a pain, but I just don't see that.

Edit: Oh! I never knew that there was a game limitation of only 8 sims to a household! Is that per lot, even if there are separate dwellings on the same lot?

Yes.  It's not a Dynasty rule at all.  The household will only hold 8 Sims.  The game won't allow a pregnancy if all 8 slots are already taken.
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« Reply #392 on: September 01, 2010, 12:41:14 PM »
So just to get it straight, the seventh immortal is the one that has the last immortal child, of course without marrying the father, because that would put it over 8.  I think I got it.  The more I go over the rules and Q and A, the more I am finally getting it.  I would hate to miss something and have to start over. I love my little twins, but hate to lose one.  Oh well, that is the way it goes, I suppose.
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« Reply #393 on: September 01, 2010, 05:48:10 PM »
You've got it, Salty!

I'm going to hate losing Indigo, too.  We'll also lose all of the spouses, but that's not the same to me as losing my Sims.  Indigo will have a good life.  She wants to work in the science career and she'll have a boyfriend and stuff.  But still. 
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« Reply #394 on: September 01, 2010, 05:55:41 PM »
The funny thing is Pam, the more I write about my couple in the blog and those adorable twins, I am getting so attached to them and the story has turned out to be quite a love story.  Agnes is so easy to work with.  I finally got my first venue purchased and partially upgraded and everything is going along pretty smoothly.  The twins are adorable and they will age up in a few hours and the one that is the immortal one, will start fishing right across the street where I purchased that park, pretty handy.  It wasn't a bad price, but now I am kinda short on money after upgrading it to level 2, but that is ok, Agnes paintings are getting worth more and more and Li-Liang is getting some good money for his ice sculptures, but with the twins, it has been kinda hectic, as you well know if you have played with twins. :)
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« Reply #395 on: September 01, 2010, 06:14:42 PM »
Oh yes.  My twins were hectic, too.  I couldn't just let their mother lounge around and enjoy the babies.  She had to keep cooking and gardening the whole time.  They are teenagers now and about to age up to young adult in another day.
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« Reply #396 on: September 01, 2010, 07:07:15 PM »
I just read your post Pam on some of the stories for the dynasty challenge and instead of writing it on the storie board im going to ask here.
Are you really going to ban CC hair?? It doesnt do anything other than give them a more interesting look.
Ive never seen on CC hairs as modification - i just use them so i dont have to look at identical looking sims all the time.

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« Reply #397 on: September 01, 2010, 07:18:59 PM »
I just read your post Pam on some of the stories for the dynasty challenge and instead of writing it on the storie board im going to ask here.
Are you really going to ban CC hair?? It doesnt do anything other than give them a more interesting look.
Ive never seen on CC hairs as modification - i just use them so i dont have to look at identical looking sims all the time.

I just posted in simfulicious' story thread and gave my opinion. On the one hand, rules are rules. On the other, does it really make a bit of difference to change a Sim's hair? Let me talk about this with Pam tonight and we'll have a final decision soon. If we allow it of course it means more edits and more exceptions to the rule set.  :P

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« Reply #398 on: September 01, 2010, 07:21:20 PM »
I just asked another question on my story thread.  Maybe it should go here, but I don't know how to move it. 

My question was basically whether or not it is enough to play the challenge without CC, or do you actually have to delete it from your system?  I think it's an important question, because if it has to be deleted from your system it will disqualify a lot of people from playing ranked challenges too.

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« Reply #399 on: September 01, 2010, 08:19:09 PM »
At first I was all gung ho on this challenge but it has gotten increasingly confusing as time has gone on.  I mean, really?  How many pages on max/Supermax and Black Ops?

 Then the "rule" about not changing their appearance, or am I getting that wrong?  I like to make my Sims attractive and to change their clothes and hair styles.  Does this mean I can't use the dresser to do this, or just not get them a make over at the salon? 

And why on earth can't you go to the salon for a full treatment or whatever since it relaxes you and gives all kinds of good moodlets?  How is that going to give anyone an unfair advantage?  Isn't it more of an unfair advantage to say "marry so and so because they have such and such goodies/skills"? 

While I'm on the subject of who to marry, I've peppered all three hoods with Sims I've created and Sims I've liked from various hoods.  So, for instance, Agnes can also now be found in my Twinbrook.  I'm assuming this would make her unavailable for marriage in that town.  Right?  And, what about the Sims I've placed of my own creating in various towns?  I got bored with most of the npc townies and just made a lot of Sims and houses, added a ton of lots including some of the largest ones, and put my Simmies in various houses already in Twinbrook without playing them so they would be random for future legacy possibilities.  So would they be possible spouse material or not? 

Oh, yeah, houses.  So houses previously made by moi would also not be allowed, right?

And why are people just randomly dumping stuff in venues to upgrade them?  Why not do things like make restrooms, add paths, a fire pit and things that would normally show up in "wilderness" camp/fishing grounds?  And since the graveyard is a place we can buy, fixing it up in build/buy mode, (build/buy on this lot is available when you buy one), is ok, right?  You know how I hate creepy graveyards!

I've only a few days left on my Da Vinci so guess this is going to be my next challenge.  At least with no time limit and possible do overs it will be more relaxing and I think, despite the confusion, a lot of fun.  Count me in.  You really do make some pretty unusual and complex challenge, Metro.  Kudos.
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