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Re: The Sims 4 Immortal Dynasty Challenge
« Reply #1500 on: October 25, 2015, 07:32:58 PM »
Hi guys. I have a quick question. Maybe I'm confused. I've read about 35 pages of the thread but haven't quite made it to the end, so I apologize if this has been asked and answered. When museum items were being discussed, it was said that an heir had to do all the work themselves in order to contribute items to the museum. I get that just fine. However, I was wondering about aspirations, specifically Freelance Botanist, Collector, and Angling Ace. The game counts ALL items in the household as part of the Sim's "collection". So, for the Collector aspiration, if the household has already completed a collection, that Sim would get aspirational credit, even if they never collected a single one of those items. Similarly, if the family has fished a lot--which they would in order to get angelfish--a later heir with the Angling Ace aspiration would have a much easier time completing the aspiration goal of collecting 20 different kinds of fish.

I am assuming this is known and okay because otherwise you'd be forced into doing the Nature aspirations with the founder in order not to make it easier later on. So, is this an issue or am I overthinking it?

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Re: The Sims 4 Immortal Dynasty Challenge
« Reply #1501 on: October 26, 2015, 12:17:00 AM »
One of my later heirs did the angling aspiration and I mounted the fish she caught and place them on a wall so I could manually/visually keep track of the fish that SHE caught. That way I knew when SHE had completed collecting all the fish needed to finish the aspiration. I did it this way because, like you have stated, the family had a actually caught enough fish for the angling aspiration to complete many generations before. Obviously when she was fishing the angling aspiration completed long before she had caught anywhere near enough fish but I did not consider it completed until I could see all her fish on the wall. Also, you have to be very careful to not ever click on that aspiration with any other heir because if it registers as completed on any other heir she could not have counted it as one of her unique aspirations. Game over if this were to happen later in the dynasty after she had eaten ambrosia!
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Re: The Sims 4 Immortal Dynasty Challenge
« Reply #1502 on: October 26, 2015, 02:01:16 AM »
Thanks for the quick reply. That's what I figured I would do--individually count frogs or fish or whatever. My generation 2 heir is a child. All my founder has left is maxing her two aspirations--she's very close to maxing the first one--getting to the top of her career (Level 6), and doing the friends. She got all of her parties to gold on the first try! We've got death flowers, about 10 or 11 angelfish, and 3 Potions of Youth so far. Now it's just a race to the finish. The only thing that concerns me is the career, but she's been working hard and getting steady promotions. I just hope she doesn't stall!

This is a fun challenge and perfect for my founder Sim, Fiona Firefly, who is a Sims 4 version of the very first Sim I made for Sims 2. Fiona never dies in my game, so when I saw this I was pretty excited.  ;) I'm going to try to do all female heirs, I think.

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« Reply #1503 on: October 26, 2015, 04:07:45 AM »
Sounds like you are doing really well. Best of luck  :) My founder was also a sim that I never let die in any of my games lol. I had to let him get old though... traumatizing for him as he normally is always a YA.  ;)
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Re: The Sims 4 Immortal Dynasty Challenge
« Reply #1504 on: October 26, 2015, 02:01:29 PM »
I have another question. When you set aside Aspirations that will not be unique to any heir, may those be completed?

Example:
Founder completes Collector and Musical Genius. Heir 1 completes Nerd Brain and Computer Whiz.  I have set aside Angling Ace as a non-unique Aspiration for the duration of the challenge.Can BOTH of those Sims then choose Angling Ace as an Aspiration AND complete it for the reward points? Of course, once it has been completed, it cannot ever be used as an heir's unique aspiration.

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Re: The Sims 4 Immortal Dynasty Challenge
« Reply #1505 on: October 26, 2015, 02:11:34 PM »
Yes. You can also have heirs work on aspirations that other immortals have completed, but you have to make sure that they don't complete them.

What I do with my Immortals to make sure that they don't complete someone else's aspiration is to give them the Big Happy Family aspiration once they've had ambrosia. Since none of them have 3 children, they can't get very far with it.
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Re: The Sims 4 Immortal Dynasty Challenge
« Reply #1506 on: October 30, 2015, 06:35:13 AM »
MarianT how do they collect enough points to purchase the potions of youth if they're not working towards any aspiration? Is there a secret I'm missing?



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Re: The Sims 4 Immortal Dynasty Challenge
« Reply #1507 on: October 30, 2015, 08:54:42 AM »
Well, your dynasty spouses can be given any aspiration. I usually pick up several potions of youth from them and from other helpers. And I can get some points from the lower levels of aspirations that have been completed. Right now I'm "saving" Mansion Baron for any heir that might have trouble completing one of the aspirations I've assigned them, but if no one needs it, then I'll be able to get points from that.

At the moment, I have about 10 potions in the basement, and 4 Immortals. I give them their full ten days as elders before making ambrosia for them.
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Re: The Sims 4 Immortal Dynasty Challenge
« Reply #1508 on: October 30, 2015, 08:58:12 AM »
Yes, I was just thinking that mansion baron would be a good one. Then switching them all away and getting the final heir to purchase the 20 columns.  Even I can't purchase 20 columns by accident, and failing again!

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« Reply #1509 on: October 30, 2015, 10:19:51 AM »
MarianT how do they collect enough points to purchase the potions of youth if they're not working towards any aspiration? Is there a secret I'm missing?

There are 3 easy ones to complete for every generation spouse.  Fabulously wealthy, Mansion Baron, and Soulmate -- with these 3 complete, your spouse should be able to buy tons of potion of youth.  Remember spouse is not tied to the same restrictions as heirs, they can do whatever they want and complete as many aspiraitons as they want.

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« Reply #1510 on: October 30, 2015, 10:22:49 AM »
Oh Nutella, but this involves having the spouses actually live with my Sims... All my girls have avoided this so far! But yes, I can see the benefit of having some house members with freedom now!

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Re: The Sims 4 Immortal Dynasty Challenge
« Reply #1511 on: October 30, 2015, 11:18:39 AM »
@tjtemple

Heirs must result from natural pregnancies where both parents are living in the Dynasty house.

Even if you have girl heirs, the spouse MUST live in the same dynasty house as your heir.  I hope you didn't just fail because of this.

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Re: The Sims 4 Immortal Dynasty Challenge
« Reply #1512 on: October 30, 2015, 11:19:59 AM »
Well I failed ages ago because of the multiple rewards, so another failure is no surprise

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« Reply #1513 on: October 30, 2015, 11:30:24 AM »
Sorry to hear that.  Don't give up.

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Re: The Sims 4 Immortal Dynasty Challenge
« Reply #1514 on: November 01, 2015, 03:46:36 AM »
Are Death flowers allowed for immortals, non-immortals, or banned?

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« Reply #1515 on: November 01, 2015, 06:58:46 AM »
Death flowers are not allowed for anybody (plead with grim), but are allowed in game because you need death flowers to make Ambrosia.

Household members cannot complete the Bodybuilder Aspiration, use Potions of Youth, Essence of Life (from cowplant), Book of Life (from writing skill), Plead with the Grim Reaper to save a dying sim, use Age-Away Serum or any other methods of extending life.

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Re: The Sims 4 Immortal Dynasty Challenge
« Reply #1516 on: November 01, 2015, 01:17:35 PM »
Thanks, that was the part I was worried bout.

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Re: The Sims 4 Immortal Dynasty Challenge
« Reply #1517 on: November 04, 2015, 01:41:28 PM »
Is it permissible to move in a good friend or bff after all goals are met and ambrosia has been eaten?

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« Reply #1518 on: November 04, 2015, 02:56:28 PM »
Yes.  You can move in your good friend or BFF after goals met and ate ambrosia.  Remember anyone you add to the household cannot be removed later, they must die from old age and no intentional killing.

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Re: The Sims 4 Immortal Dynasty Challenge
« Reply #1519 on: November 05, 2015, 11:44:49 PM »
So, my Dynasty was moving along quite nicely. My founder had achieved all of her goals and had eaten her first ambrosia. Gen 2 became a young adult and entered the astronaut career. Don had moved in early on and impregnated much of the neighborhood. Farley (my Gen 2 heir) was sweet on Don and Nina's daughter, Helena. They had become friends as teens and sweethearts as young adults. Helena moved in and quickly got pregnant with Gen 3. Friend and romance bars were nearly full and both Sims were very flirty, so I had Farley propose. She REJECTED HIM AND HE DIED OF MORTIFICATION!! I paused the game right after the rejection, placed a moodlet solver and queued it up. Hit play and got the notification that Farley was dying of embarrassment.

What may have caused this: Their friendship didn't stick from when they were teens. When Farley started wooing Helena, they were acquaintences, despite having a nearly full green bar, but had the "Just Friends" notation under that, I'm assuming because they had done some flirting as teens. They were "lovers" when I had him propose, which I assumed would override being friends. WRONG!! :)





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Re: The Sims 4 Immortal Dynasty Challenge
« Reply #1520 on: November 06, 2015, 01:07:44 AM »
@reggikko 
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Re: The Sims 4 Immortal Dynasty Challenge
« Reply #1521 on: November 06, 2015, 02:10:53 AM »
Thanks!

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« Reply #1522 on: November 06, 2015, 05:03:23 AM »
What may have caused this: Their friendship didn't stick from when they were teens. When Farley started wooing Helena, they were acquaintences, despite having a nearly full green bar, but had the "Just Friends" notation under that, I'm assuming because they had done some flirting as teens. They were "lovers" when I had him propose, which I assumed would override being friends. WRONG!!

Farley died?  Sorry you have to restart your dynasty.  :'(

It doesn't matter whether you have friendship/romance bar full, the propose interaction is just random chance you get rejected.  Low green/pink bar means higher chance to get rejected.  Full green/pink bar DOESN'T mean it is 100% acceptance either, its just lower chance of getting rejected.  You were just unlucky and got hit with the reject.

During propose, I always make sure my sims are not in the VERY emotion state - if they get rejected, they will just be mortified instead of Very mortified.

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Re: The Sims 4 Immortal Dynasty Challenge
« Reply #1523 on: November 06, 2015, 05:15:58 AM »
She REJECTED HIM AND HE DIED OF MORTIFICATION!!

That's devastating @reggikko - thank goodness it wasn't 6 generations down! 

@Mods - I am thinking I might have my heirs out of wedlock to avoid this possible consequence; this is ok right as long as both parents are living in the founders home?

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Re: The Sims 4 Immortal Dynasty Challenge
« Reply #1524 on: November 06, 2015, 06:46:48 AM »
@tjtemple

Yes.  They don't need to be married, just need to be living in the dynasty/founder's house.