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Re: The Sims 3 Immortal Dynasty Challenge
« Reply #1000 on: October 03, 2010, 10:18:07 AM »
Ahh yes, I forgot about that! Thanks for reminding me Pam! Diana needs something to do, she only has a garden and a Culinary book!  :D Diana didn't even come with a gardeing book, I thought Green Thumb's came with a free book? Or am I wrong?

Your Sims used to come with one or two books related to their traits, but that was back at the beginning.  Electronic Arts changed it and your Sims no longer come with books at the start of the game.
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Re: The Sims 3 Immortal Dynasty Challenge
« Reply #1001 on: October 03, 2010, 11:46:17 AM »
I have a quick question.
If by any chance your seventh immortal turns out to be a boy does that mean the challenge is automatically ended.
I know the cheat for getting a girl but was just wondering what the rules are if by some chance it didn't work.
Would you have to wait for the boy to die then try again for a girl. I am assuming that you would have to have a male heir for generation six remarry to make this possible.

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« Reply #1002 on: October 03, 2010, 11:49:11 AM »
I have a quick question.
If by any chance your seventh immortal turns out to be a boy does that mean the challenge is automatically ended.
I know the cheat for getting a girl but was just wondering what the rules are if by some chance it didn't work.
Would you have to wait for the boy to die then try again for a girl. I am assuming that you would have to have a male heir for generation six remarry to make this possible.

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To my understanding you have to have a girl by eating the corresponding fruit. If you don't your dynasty comes to a end.

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« Reply #1003 on: October 03, 2010, 11:58:42 AM »
I have a quick question.
If by any chance your seventh immortal turns out to be a boy does that mean the challenge is automatically ended.

That's correct. To my knowledge Pam has never been let down with always getting her billions of girls by the mothers eating truckloads of watermelon. I suppose there's always a slim chance, but I'm not allowing cheats to enter the picture to remedy that misfortune. So, if this does happen to someone, hey, I'm sorry. It could happen to me as well. And yes, I'd be quite ticked. But, restarting from a previous save or using a cheat just doesn't work because then you truly did not make it on your own.

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« Reply #1004 on: October 03, 2010, 12:00:39 PM »
To my understanding you have to have a girl by eating the corresponding fruit. If you don't your dynasty comes to a end.

wow that would be gut wrenching to get that far into the dynasty and game over.
Here's hoping no boys in the seventh generation and no surprise twins.

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« Reply #1005 on: October 03, 2010, 12:04:12 PM »
I was not suggesting cheating I was asking if you could try for a girl again once a prior mortal died. But I am guessing that would not be allowed and it would be game over if the seventh generation turned out to be a boy.
I guess that is why this is the immortal dynasty challenge and not the make your own rules up as you go along game.

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« Reply #1006 on: October 03, 2010, 12:07:25 PM »
Yes, whenever you get around to starting this challenge, you're welcome to use the PlaceFriezes cheat.

Welcome to the forum.  :)

I'm in total agreement, Pam. There needs to be a game-breaker involved for me to sign off on someone restarting from a previous save. And I've always been willing to do that.

Well, for me it would have been a game breaker since I couldn't even LEAVE the country to go back home.  Everyone in my party was disassociated from everyone else.  Only one character was visible in my line up, the spouse of the founder.  Everyone else had disappeared entirely, as if they never existed and he was my only character, but I couldn't even send him back home.  My only choice was to end that game and go back to the save I did just before I left the country.  This happened with a party of four, both married couples.  I decided I needed to see if it was having two couples go.  So I went in again with only one couple.  Same response but only after I did one challenge and was starting challenge number two.  If this means it kills the dynasty for me then so be it. 

@Pam:  Pam, do you have Fast Lane installed?  I used to travel extensively before I installed FL and never had any problems that I noticed. 

EDIT:  Ok, I HAD to find out if it was me, or what.  I sent an old couple I had saved, (DaVinci challenge couple), to Shang Simla.  They got there fine, they did a challenge fine, (just one of them, the other sat and read), and they returned home fine.  So I once again sent a couple from my Dynasty.  Founder and spouse.  Day one went along smoothly.
When the founder went back to camp she prepared dinner, everyone ate and then they started to bounce off one another.  They had not talked to anyone except the person in charge of the challenge.  Once they started bouncing and getting very independent, I checked on the family tree.  Sure enough no one was there in either the family tree, (which showed the founder as a ghost), or in her list of acquaintances.
Everyone disappeared from her list EXCEPT the man who she had talked to about the challenge.  My conclusion is it is something within my dynasty itself that is causing the mess and I have no clue what the difference would be.  Oh, and once again I could not use the telephone to go back home.
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Re: The Sims 3 Immortal Dynasty Challenge
« Reply #1007 on: October 03, 2010, 01:15:23 PM »
I was not suggesting cheating I was asking if you could try for a girl again once a prior mortal died. But I am guessing that would not be allowed and it would be game over if the seventh generation turned out to be a boy.

That's correct. The 7th generation immortal has to be a girl.

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« Reply #1008 on: October 03, 2010, 03:24:06 PM »
I've been lurking on this forum for ages (the guides are excellent resources!), but I had to join so I could post here and thank Metro and Pam for coming up with this great challenge! I've never played a Sims challenge before where there's a goal and set of rules, I've always just pottered around doing whatever I fancied at the time, and this has made The Sims a whole new game! So thank you for all your time and effort in creating the Immortal Dynasty Challenge!

My first Dynasty attempt was going fine until I traveled, and got what I call the Gilligan Glitch. I was able to send my Founder and Gen 2 home, but poor Christopher was left alone in China on day 4 of a 3 day trip ("a threeeee daaaaay cruuuuuise!"). I hadn't saved before traveling, so it was Game Over. Darn you, Gilligan!

However, during this first attempt I discovered that my Founder met all the requirements for Ambrosia before she became an Elder! Since I don't like playing Elders, I decided to play my own version of the challenge (the Forever Young Dynasty?) and require them to eat Ambrosia while still Adult! No Hall of Fame for me, but that frees me up to use buydebug to obtain the things I can't because of Gilligan. Maybe Maxis will one day fix some of the glitches that afflict my game, and I'll try following the official rules for a Hall of Fame game.  :)

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« Reply #1009 on: October 03, 2010, 03:35:04 PM »
Hey, Tara — welcome to the forum. Maybe you can start up a story and document your progress. I'd like to learn more about how things are going in your Dynasty.

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« Reply #1010 on: October 03, 2010, 03:47:37 PM »


My first Dynasty attempt was going fine until I traveled, and got what I call the Gilligan Glitch. I was able to send my Founder and Gen 2 home, but poor Christopher was left alone in China on day 4 of a 3 day trip ("a threeeee daaaaay cruuuuuise!"). I hadn't saved before traveling, so it was Game Over. Darn you, Gilligan!

However, during this first attempt I discovered that my Founder met all the requirements for Ambrosia before she became an Elder! Since I don't like playing Elders, I decided to play my own version of the challenge (the Forever Young Dynasty?) and require them to eat Ambrosia while still Adult! No Hall of Fame for me, but that frees me up to use buydebug to obtain the things I can't because of Gilligan. Maybe Maxis will one day fix some of the glitches that afflict my game, and I'll try following the official rules for a Hall of Fame game.  :)

Gilligan glitch.  I love it!  *hums theme song*

I'm really interested in how you'll develop the Forever Young Dynasty.  That's a great twist on this thing!  Love it.

So, Metro, do I bag the dynasty or just keep playing it sans travel attempts?  I won't start an official one over again so it's this one or none for official attempts.
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« Reply #1011 on: October 03, 2010, 07:24:06 PM »
Sorry, this doesn't belong in a dynasty thread, but I can sooo see a Gilligan's Castaways household living in Barnacle Bay! Gilligan, Skipper, MaryAnne, Ginger, and the Howles, perfect!
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« Reply #1012 on: October 03, 2010, 11:54:57 PM »
Welcome to the forum, Tara!  Looks like you'll fit right in.  I'd love to hear more about your forever young Dynasty in the Stories section!  :)

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« Reply #1013 on: October 05, 2010, 12:30:27 AM »
While fishing for death fish for the ambrosia, I noticed I wasn't getting a whole lot of fish.  So I kept track of when the death fish show up, why they show up, (required stuff), and if there is a limit.  They show up, in River View, after midnight, you must here the ghostly music first or they just aren't there, the water turns pinkish.  They leave in about an hour and a half and so far the limit seems to be 3 death fish per night.  Has anyone else tracked this anywhere else and if so what are your results?

Question:  Can you "stock" death fish in a family pond?
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Re: The Sims 3 Immortal Dynasty Challenge
« Reply #1014 on: October 05, 2010, 12:47:38 AM »
While fishing for death fish for the ambrosia, I noticed I wasn't getting a whole lot of fish.  So I kept track of when the death fish show up, why they show up, (required stuff), and if there is a limit.  They show up, in River View, after midnight, you must here the ghostly music first or they just aren't there, the water turns pinkish.  They leave in about an hour and a half and so far the limit seems to be 3 death fish per night.  Has anyone else tracked this anywhere else and if so what are your results?

Question:  Can you "stock" death fish in a family pond?

I don't recall having that problem with Deathfish in Riverview.  I know for sure in Sunset Valley that the Deathfish come out at midnight and stay until about 4:00 a.m.  I've gotten as many as 5 or 6 per night.  And, yes, you can stock death fish in a family pond.
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« Reply #1015 on: October 05, 2010, 01:01:59 AM »
Metro: The rules do not specifically prohibit a founder or heir from getting pregnant elsewhere does it? I mean, a baby can be the result of an affair and still stand to inherit as a first born if that mother is also the first born or founder of the dynasty right? A spouse is just convenient to get skills and money that the immortals are not able to get right? Look forward to your reply.

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« Reply #1016 on: October 05, 2010, 01:12:46 AM »
Metro: The rules do not specifically prohibit a founder or heir from getting pregnant elsewhere does it? I mean, a baby can be the result of an affair and still stand to inherit as a first born if that mother is also the first born or founder of the dynasty right? A spouse is just convenient to get skills and money that the immortals are not able to get right? Look forward to your reply.

Thanks Pam for setting me in the right place.

According to the Immortal Dynasty rules, spouses must live in the Dynasty house until their death.  The only exception is generation 7, who must get pregnant outside the household because there won't be enough space to have a spouse and bring in the 8th generation.  All others must marry and move their spouse into the house.
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« Reply #1017 on: October 05, 2010, 01:27:40 AM »
I don't recall having that problem with Deathfish in Riverview.  I know for sure in Sunset Valley that the Deathfish come out at midnight and stay until about 4:00 a.m.  I've gotten as many as 5 or 6 per night.  And, yes, you can stock death fish in a family pond.

Thank you, Pam.  I'll keep tracking the stats in River View.  I know I used to get a lot of death fish in SV so was surprised at the paltry three per night, (two nights in a row), that I got in RV.

EDIT:  Six death fish this time around but the time you get to fish is about one hour, give or take a few minutes.  I hang around fishing until dawn arrives but the death fish all disappear after one-ish.  I think I'll time test the other maps as well.  Would be interesting to know if you really had a short window of time to catch them or not.
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« Reply #1018 on: October 05, 2010, 06:46:36 AM »
Thank you, Pam.  I'll keep tracking the stats in River View.  I know I used to get a lot of death fish in SV so was surprised at the paltry three per night, (two nights in a row), that I got in RV.

EDIT:  Six death fish this time around but the time you get to fish is about one hour, give or take a few minutes.  I hang around fishing until dawn arrives but the death fish all disappear after one-ish.  I think I'll time test the other maps as well.  Would be interesting to know if you really had a short window of time to catch them or not.

Ok, you're saying that the cloud over the water disappeared after only an hour?  And during that hour, you caught six Deathfish?  If that's the case, I think what happened is that you caught all the Deathfish that were available.  If it lets you fish for four hours, you'd catch 24 Deathfish during that time, which the game won't let you do.  So, I guess it's either you catch the max number of Deathfish (six) or the timer runs out at 4:00 a.m. or 5:00 a.m.  I don't remember exactly what time, but it will go away before dawn even if you haven't caught all the Deathfish.
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« Reply #1019 on: October 05, 2010, 06:52:14 AM »
You are correct Pam.  I know in SV it is 12 to 5,  I caught one at 4:55 one time.  My sim only caught 4, but, that was enough at the time and I was not using bait that time either.  That is plenty of time to catch all you need, especially if you have angel fish.  I have never fished for deathfish in TB and RV is the same time frame as SV.  ;D
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« Reply #1020 on: October 05, 2010, 08:25:42 AM »
Hi everyone --

Well, I have read up to about page 40 of this thread, but I have a question that I'm sure hasn't been answered up to that point and I'm pretty curious as to the answer, so I figured I'd just register and ask!

Anyway!  So, after some do-overs and unfortunate incidents (Julienne Knack, my founder's wife and designated painter/chef, was killed by a meteor just after gen 2 aged up to child... sigh), I am finally almost ready to have my founder eat ambrosia.  That said, not QUITE ready.  He is only 78 days old or so, so I'm not worried about having enough time to get everything done for him.  However, his 2nd wife, Sofia, who I spent ages rapidly skilling in cooking so that she could make the ambrosia, has just turned 90 days old.  I have all the ingredients and she has read the recipe and is capable of making it, so no worries there.  My question is this:  if I have her make it now (just so I have it in case she dies in the next few days), can I keep it in the fridge for 12 days or so?  How do I keep other Sims from eating it prematurely (or keep her from eating it right after preparing it)?  I do not have the food replicator and am not close to obtaining it.  I assume it will go bad if it is kept in someone's inventory?  Has anyone else run into this issue?  I don't want her to die before I can have her make it. 

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« Reply #1021 on: October 05, 2010, 08:33:00 AM »
Only problem is, if you do put it in fridge, someone else is bound to eat it and that would be the end of that.  Since you do not have replicator, there really is no other place to put it and might have to wait until they turn elder to have your founder eat it.  I would just hate to see someone dynasty end because of placing ambrosia in the refrigerator. :D
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« Reply #1022 on: October 05, 2010, 08:46:12 AM »
Exactly!  My gen2 is going to be a chef, but he has only just aged up to YA.  I think he is at level 4 cooking... I suppose that there is technically enough time for me to skill him to level ten if my founder has 12 days left. 

Grr... All this would be solved had I stuck with my original plan of having my founder be the chef.  In my first two attempts I did just that but I was annoyed with it by this try so I went with gardening for my founder...

I guess I just need to try and finish all my requirements for my founder as quickly as possible and if Sofia has an unusually long life, that's great, but if she doesn't, gen 2 is going to have to pick up the slack.  This challenge has seriously kept me on my toes, and I'm not even playing for points!  (I don't think I have broken any rules yet though -- it's hte control freak in me.  :D)

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« Reply #1023 on: October 05, 2010, 08:58:14 AM »
Welcome to our Forum, alisonclaire!

You could go ahead and try making a couple of batches of Ambrosia.  Put one in the fridge and one in inventory.  There's a chance that won't spoil because it's Ambrosia.  This would be a good way to find out.  You just need to keep an eye on the fridge and make sure nobody goes to autonomously to eat it.
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« Reply #1024 on: October 05, 2010, 09:03:56 AM »
Good idea!  I actually just bought another fridge and walled it up... We will see how that works, and I'll report back about whether or not it spoils in someone's inventory.

Also, I just realized my founder is 83!  When did he get so old??   :o

 

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